Goodbye Feeley
Harlan Lachman
someone we invested a lot in, say a Mike Nugent.
The challenge is that we can only sign a UFA Kicker who was not cut who
makes less than Jay or, we can take someone's leavings.
Not sure about this move.
Seems like the FO didn't like his play or his mouth. I hope at the end
of games it was his play.
h
Harlan Lachman
buRford <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> This be a headscratcher, H. I suspect his mouth had something to do with it.
> With our offense still questionable, we need a solid, mostly dependable
> kicker, which
> Feely was (although he missed a couple in the AFC Championship game).
> Hopefully, Folk will regain his pro-bowl leg, with Westhoff's help.
I have little confidence that Westy can fix Folk's head, which based on
his last performances if the problem.
I suspect they have someone in mind. I just hope that person can kick in
our new stadium and in buffalo.
h
Hammer
> In article <ggqer5548k9k4vk1askihq6c8tljsu1...@4ax.com>,
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think this was the first really bad move of the offseason. They
should not have let Feely go. There was no excuse not to pay him in an
uncapped year.
Demetrios
> It is hard to get broken up over losing a kicker. It is not like he was
> someone we invested a lot in, say a Mike Nugent.
>
> The challenge is that we can only sign a UFA Kicker who was not cut who
> makes less than Jay or, we can take someone's leavings.
>
> Not sure about this move.
>
Unless the articles I have read are mistaken (or I am not reading them
correctly), nothing says the player we sign has to be a kicker.
I look at this, especially given the vague quote about giving an
opportunity at other players from Tannenbaum, as more of a way to free
up the Jets to sign a UFA at a position of need or desire. Sure, we
can't sign Julius Peppers, but having $1.5 or so to spend on a
different UFA might work well for us, particularly since kickers tend
to change teams so easily as camp starts to pick up. If Folk isn't the
one, I am sure there will be a cut or unsigned free agent somewhere we
can pick up. I'm not worried.
About that, anyway. Worried about lots of other things, but not the
Feely move.
D.
Harlan Lachman
<fe4853f9-2d89-4a33...@5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Hammer <stuart.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
You may be right. I think most would agree, however, that it is usually
more correct to assess a move like this AFTER we see Jay's replacement.
harlan
Tutor
You don't understand the economics of this move? The Jets are now
free to sign a FA with an average salary the sae as Feely's (I think
new contract.. $2.5 million?) THat's one for starters. Which kicker
blew it in the playoffs? Feely. Feely played well for the Jets but
let's not deify him. Sure, after Nugent, John Hall and some other
very bad kickers, Feely may hae felt like gold, but his kickoffs were
weak, he choked in the biggest of spots. Now the Jets will piut Folk
against Rackers (who had 94% FG accuracy last year plus injuries) and
also be able to sign at least one decent FA under the Final 8 rules.
Don't get me wrong. I liked Feely. But in no way am I surprised or
disappointed here. Lets see which FA they bring in. Could get a nice
player and certainly a good back up for a position at that price.
Harlan Lachman
<e797955d-7a71-4d40...@w17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Tutor <dcat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
David, am I missing something. If the Jets sign Rackers, doesn't that
eliminate them signing another FA under the rule of 4 (or 8). Feeley
cannot count twice?
If this is correct, and they save some money by getting Rackers, who
also failed to perform at crunch time, the challenge remains if we get
better or worse.
h
Johnctx
I believe we can sign unlimited # of guys like Rackers because he was
released. It is the RFA & UFA whose contracts are expired we are limited
to signing.
Johnctx
Tutor if they can get a guy who makes almost all of his kicks inside the
40 I am a happy man. A guy who can make it 40+ like Feely and place it
where he wants on KO's would be nice.
It could work out but I don't like the gamble.
Tutor
> In article
> <e797955d-7a71-4d40-b446-458c66ec9...@w17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
>
> - Show quoted text -
This is a moot point now that Rackers has signed with another team,
but Rackers was cut and therefore not subject to any of the Final 8 or
Final 4 rules.
Tutor
>
> - Show quoted text -
Folk was once like that and he is still young. Some people are
denying the fact that Feely choked against the Colts. Again, I liked
Feely, but this is no big deal. Hope they find someone to compete
against Folk.
papa.carl44
"Johnctx" <j...@spamtx.net> wrote in message
news:LoOdnWpn_fjTrSbW...@giganews.com...
Again, I agree with John. Given the history of Jet's kickers, it would have
been nice to stay with a guy who did it most of the time, seemed to be a
real team player and competitor. This has become such an important part of
the game I don't think it they should assume they will find someone. It
could be a huge gamble.
Johnctx
> under orders from Woody to keep his spending down.
>
> Both Ryan and Westhoff called Feeley after the season and told him they
> wanted him back.
>
> Feeley was not asking for a big raise, and in fact he signed with
> Arizona for about the same salary as he made last year, $1.5 million per
> year for 2 years.
>
> Feeley is known as a good clubhouse presence, a team guy, and a fierce
> competitor who actually likes tackling. I can recall several instances
> when he saved field position and possibly a score by tackling the
> returner.
>
> I gained a lot of respect for him when he stepped in at the last second
> to handle the punting, despite the fact that he had never punted before.
> Punting is completely different from place kicking, and if you are not
> in condition to do it you can easily pull a groin muscle - I know
> because it happened to me. And he actually did a great job of keeping
> the Jets out of trouble.
>
> It's been reported that Tannenbaum actually asked Feeley to take a pay
> cut. Huh???
>
> Despite Tutor's characterization of choking in playoff games, Feeley was
> 1 for 1 in the Wild Card game, 1 for 1 in the Divisional game, and 1 for
> 3 in the Conference game. The two FG's he missed against the Colts were
> not exactly chip shots, one was 44 yards and the other was 52 yards. And
> I believe the Jets lost by a lot more than those 6 points.
>
> I believe Tutor is incorrect on Rackers' status before signing with the
> Texans. Rackers was a UFA, just like Feeley, and we can only sign a UFA
> for no more than the $1.5 million Feeley got from the Cards. I have to
> think that was a factor in being unable to sign Rackers. I also feel
> that for that kind of money we will not find a UFA who would give us as
> much value as Feeley would have for that amount.
>
> I sure hope Folk turns it back around, and shows that he can kick in the
> hostile NJ winter, but right now I'm very nervous about the place
> kicking situation.
>
> But then, I believe Nugent is still out there ;-)
If he could kick off I would bring him in and i am serious. He was
perfect inside the 30 & never missed more than 2 /year inside the 40 but
his kick offs were high but never out of the end zone. If he was low
pick instead of #2 we would not be as harsh on him.
With this offense we need to get 3 every time we within the 30. I will
always take the sure kicker inside the 40 over the guy who is more
likely to shank that kick & make the 55 yarder.
Johnctx
> As a last resort, maybe ;)
Why he can't get any power on his kick off is just weird. If I was a
big strong safety that wasn't good enough to play but was borderline
special teams I would learn to kick.
Big Balls Billy
wrote:
>It is hard to get broken up over losing a kicker. It is not like he was
when it came down to it in the afc championship game, feely let the
team down. 1 for 3 sucks indoors, as stover made all three of his FG
attempts.
the game would have been different with the two he missed for sure.
good riddens.
Big Balls Billy
<gray...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:08:21 -0500 Big Balls Billy <majje...@news.com>
>wrote:
>Right. They would have lost 30-23.
so you don't agree that there is a difference between a one possession
and two possession game and how it is played? the word moron comes to
mind.