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papa.carl44

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Jan 2, 2011, 4:05:57 PM1/2/11
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"buRford" <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
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> Seriously, what was the point of playing Sanchez for a series, just to
> hand it off?
> Did that keep his *hot-hand* scintillating?
>
> And I'm happy to see McKnight rushing the ball, and he's looking the way I
> thought he
> would - - productive... but talk about round peg in square whole... why
> not run him
> suitable to his skill set, rather than as if he's a ground & pound guy?
> They did this in pre-season, too. No wonder they had no clue on Woodhead,
> they seem to
> use these guys totally wrong.
>
> Lastly, seeing Gholston make a good play, I'm getting ready to see the
> Jets let him go...
> then BB will pick him up, & he'll become a good player. That he hasn't
> had a sack in 3
> seasons, something's going on with how they use him. He just doesn't look
> that bad...
> just like he's being used wrong.
>
> Bottom line, the whole coaching staff seems to lack the creativity, to
> utilize the
> particular skill sets each individual player has.

Generally, at any level of the game there are two ways to do things. You
can have a plan and a scheme and then work to get guys to execute it OR you
can figure out what your guys do best and then develop pieces of the scheme
around their talents and how they all come together. Both approaches have
their merits and both have been used. I think of Parcells as the guy who
made adjustments to utilize the skills he had, not what he wanted to have.
OMHO, Papa Carl


Grinch

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Jan 2, 2011, 4:30:27 PM1/2/11
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On Jan 2, 4:05 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
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> "buRford" <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
> OMHO, Papa Carl- Hide quoted text -
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Think of Don Shula: Two 1,000-yard rushers and 2,960 yds rushing in a
single 14-game season (the Nebraska of the NFL) when he had Csonka,
Morris, Kiik .... followed by 5,000+ yds passing in a season with
Marino.

There was a HC who adjusted to use what he had.

Copp

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Jan 2, 2011, 5:18:56 PM1/2/11
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buRford <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
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> Seriously, what was the point of playing Sanchez for a series, just to hand it off?
> Did that keep his *hot-hand* scintillating?

I didn't see the game, but didn't your team score 38 points?
Don't see how there could be too much to complain about.

Keith Keller

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Jan 2, 2011, 6:03:15 PM1/2/11
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On 2011-01-02, Copp <cr7...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <0hh1i652pjslp1869...@4ax.com>
> buRford <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>>
>> Seriously, what was the point of playing Sanchez for a series, just to hand it off?
>> Did that keep his *hot-hand* scintillating?
>
> I didn't see the game, but didn't your team score 38 points?

Against the Bills?

> Don't see how there could be too much to complain about.

Well, I'm pretty sure Burford is complaining, not about the final
outcome, but about how Ryan made a big deal about keeping Sanchez
''warm'' by giving him a lot of action today, then does an about-face
and gives him a series or two of handoffs.

To be fair, Ryan could have been playing mindgames during the week, and
all along knew he'd give Sanchez an easy and short day.

--keith


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papa.carl44

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Jan 2, 2011, 6:48:53 PM1/2/11
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"Grinch" <oldn...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Yes he did. It would have been even better if Marino had really gotten some
good wide receivers to work with. I loved watching the Csonka, Morris, Kiik
trio, like Csonka as a Giant too. I actually played against Kiik at one
point when we were both very young...he was a little younger than me and was
always good. As for today, I think the only reason Sanchez was in there at
all was to give him a chance to hand off to McKnight a little...and I have
NO idea why they didn't use him earlier. I stand corrected, it is not
McUseless...he can play. Granted, it was Buffalo, but he can play.


papa.carl44

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Jan 2, 2011, 6:51:51 PM1/2/11
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"Keith Keller" <kkeller...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote in message
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Could be mind games, but I think he wanted him to have some actual contact
work with McKnight, timing wise under pressure. McKnight looked really
good, moved very well and has some speed moves....why when LT was looking
very tired did they not use this kid I have no idea. I had given up on him,
he can run well and could be a real player, he ran intelligently and picks
his spots well, he runs with his eyes. And Conor is a rocket after he gets
the ball.


John C TX

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Jan 2, 2011, 7:23:15 PM1/2/11
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On Jan 2, 5:48 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
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> "Grinch" <oldna...@mindspring.com> wrote in message

I was hopeful because I still trust Rex-he did like Woodhead- and
also based on the runbacks and his limited carries in pre-season. He
ran it well and they knew it was coming. I am curious to see how
Ducasse did.

As for Sanchez playing the handful of series,well, that is a question
I would love toast the fat man. Iassume there was a plan.

papa.carl44

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Jan 2, 2011, 7:56:45 PM1/2/11
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"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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There was a plan...he needed game time reps and timing with McKnight. Why
would you want to toast the fat man? and who is Iassume...is he the Nigerian
guy? :-)

Harlan Lachman

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Jan 2, 2011, 9:29:46 PM1/2/11
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"papa.carl44" <papad...@nospamverizon.net> wrote:

I liked the fact that he got better as the game went on. He did not
fumble in spite of grabbing. He did not go down easily towards the end.

Quite an enjoyable afternoon.

h

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papa.carl44

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Jan 2, 2011, 11:54:37 PM1/2/11
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"Harlan Lachman" <har...@eeivt.com> wrote in message
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I agree...he could have been used some I think, in some other games...he is
a different kind of runner than either of the other two. Conor is a serious
pounder.


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JetsLife

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Jan 3, 2011, 2:28:44 PM1/3/11
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> There was a HC who adjusted to use what he had.- Hide quoted text -

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Jim Kiick is a distant relative of mine.

JetsLife

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Jan 6, 2011, 2:54:14 PM1/6/11
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On Jan 2, 1:58 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> Seriously, what was the point of playing Sanchez for a series, just to hand it off?
> Did that keep his *hot-hand* scintillating?
>
> And I'm happy to see McKnight rushing the ball, and he's looking the way I thought he
> would - - productive... but talk about round peg in square whole... why not run him
> suitable to his skill set, rather than as if he's a ground  & pound guy?
> They did this in pre-season, too.  No wonder they had no clue on Woodhead, they seem to
> use these guys totally wrong.
>
> Lastly, seeing Gholston make a good play, I'm getting ready to see the Jets let him go...
> then BB will pick him up, & he'll become a good player.  That he hasn't had a sack in 3
> seasons, something's going on with how they use him.  He just doesn't look that bad...
> just like he's being used wrong.
>
> Bottom line, the whole coaching staff seems to lack the creativity, to utilize the
> particular skill sets each individual player has.

Strange coaching staff indeed.

So strange it has a 20-12 regular season record, 2-1 postseason record
including AFC title game appearance w/rookie QB (which before Flacco
had never been done before IINM?), 2/2 qualifying for postseason,
excellent utilization of many players' skill sets including less
heralded folks like Brad Smith, B. Moore, DeVito, etc. Not to mention
rejuvenating the franchise after the '08 collapse, electrifying the
fan base, what else am I missing?

I'll go to battle with this "strange CS" any day.

Rotalius Jephersun

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Jan 6, 2011, 8:01:33 PM1/6/11
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JetsLife <Jets...@aol.com> wrote:

>electrifying the fan base,

In this case, the electrodes were attached to the feet.

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