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Jan 8, 2011, 11:32:49 PM1/8/11
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On Jan 8, 11:28 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm keeping Braylon.
>
> He's been so big this season.  And while Holmes has played well, he has dropped some key
> passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
> Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think this would be a
> mistake.  And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but, he's changed my
> mind.

He is a perfect complement to Cotchery, the team was actually playing
better before Holmes started playing. I also think the three wide
set, somehow doesn't work for the Jets. A better student of the game
can show why it is so with the Jets. My vote goes for Braylon Edwards.

Ravnsfan²°¹¹®

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Jan 8, 2011, 11:35:35 PM1/8/11
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"buRford" <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
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> I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm
> keeping Braylon.
>
> He's been so big this season. And while Holmes has played well, he has
> dropped some key
> passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
> Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think
> this would be a
> mistake. And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but,
> he's changed my
> mind.

Based on watching Edwards during his career in Cleveland I'd thank him for a
good season, if it ends that way, keeping Holmes (whom I watched while he
played for Pittsburgh) and whom has more upside IMO. Braylon has had more
bad seasons than good ones. It is more likely than not that next year you
will not feel the same way. Holmes already has a SB ring...

~Drew


Harlan Lachman

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Jan 8, 2011, 11:46:36 PM1/8/11
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If only for his outstanding run blocking.

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Jan 8, 2011, 11:58:06 PM1/8/11
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"buRford" <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:35:35 -0500, "Ravnsfan²°¹¹®"
> <the.stero...@70s.steelers.rip>
> Braylon seems to be growing up, though.
> I may be wrong, but I think he's turned a corner. He's become very
> serious.
> He's been focused, and dropped maybe two passes this season.
> We'll see.

Not a wet blanket attempt I assure you. I easily recall Browns fans saying
the same thing after one of Edwards' earlier good to great NFL seasons. For
the Jets sake hopefully he's turned the corner to NFL caliber consistency.
That said... I'll take Holmes.
~Drew


papa.carl44

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Jan 9, 2011, 12:10:10 AM1/9/11
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"cd" <cd...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Braylon is the more physical of the receivers...and the Jets O when working
is a physical offense. They could really use a super TE in the mix...the
classic type who can catch from the TE position, and was still a big guy.
That, I believe would compliment Edwards, put Keller in the slot and Cotch
weak...he is the kind of guy who can come into the middle from the split
weak side...very tough and can be physical too. I do like what Holmes
does...would like to have him hang around...but if not, it is Edwards for
me.


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Harlan Lachman

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Jan 9, 2011, 11:44:04 AM1/9/11
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In article <ggfii696bmungrpfc...@4ax.com>,
buRford <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote:

> The 3-wide set doesn't work, because most of the time, they run from it.
> Schott doesn't know how to coordinate his talent.
> Notice, whenever there's more focus on Keller, Holmes is quiet... & visa
> versa.

Burf, they should run from it. And pass from it.

Teams should not be able to determine our plays from our sets. I hate
the extra TE approach to our run game. Hartsock + Mulligan equals run or
a very occasional dropped pass.Good coaches can more easily d-up against
us.

With our OL and cut back runners, a wider spread should facilitate the
run game, help with blocking, because if we use play action more the
initial thrust by a WR has to be honored and there are more openings.

It should also open up the passing game.

I think that the problem with our 3 wide sets has to do with both play
design and personnel. Cotchery, Keller, Holmes and Braylon all want to
be in the same place on the field, clogging up passing lanes on slants.

For some reason, perhaps because teams don't have to take them seriously
(either they are too slow, cannot get separation from a single CB, a Qb
who has not proven his ability to complete the long bombs, whatever), a
3 WR set with a TE and one back never sends two deep to occupy a CB and
deep safety and two short with the back as an outlet.

One would think any of these guys should be able to be a deep threat and
all of them able to be a threat on the 12 yard out or cross.

h

JKConey

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Jan 9, 2011, 1:07:51 PM1/9/11
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"Ravnsfan�����" <the.stero...@70s.steelers.rip> wrote in message
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For a guy like Edwards to succeed, he needs a QB capable of throwing
the bomb in a looping manner that he can run under. We lack that guy as of
now.

--

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Michael

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Jan 9, 2011, 1:10:56 PM1/9/11
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On Jan 8, 11:28 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> I'll tell ya, just judging from this game, if I'm given the choice, I'm keeping Braylon.
>
> He's been so big this season.  And while Holmes has played well, he has dropped some key
> passes, and generally, he just has a lackadaisical attitude.
> Of course, I suspect they'll keep Holmes, & let Braylon go, but I think this would be a
> mistake.  And if ya remember, I've been very critical of Edwards... but, he's changed my
> mind.

braylon for me ...

papa.carl44

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Jan 9, 2011, 1:33:19 PM1/9/11
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"JKConey" <jkc...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I think catching a ball that sets up the game winning FG was a success...he
has succeeded...every acceptable WR wants / needs that type of QB....not
many get it often.


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