Jets - Texans game thoughts
Michael
Uncommon natural leadership on the field for a new guy. Still early,
but I think this guy is a real find.
3. J. Kerley... For all the talk seems to be the guy that "amost"
makes the big catch. Probably not a true wide-out, but may yet be a
slot/possession guy. Need more time to watch him and evaluate
4. B. Powell... Has nice burst. Probably will surpass McNight soon
enough. Still too early to tell.
5. Devito may currently be the Jets best D-line guy. He plays very
well. Picked up where he left off.
6. As I was afraid of... The Jets WR's are not the worry this year....
It is the offensive line. And now Turner is injured. Oh no !
7. Holey sweet potatoes, is Ducasse every bit as cluless as I saw him
to be last season. Putting him at the tackle position even in the
preseason is askign to get Sanchez killed. This guy straight up
sucks.
8. Slauson... I got my wish... The fist running play was with Green up
the gut in the Slauson hole. Two others when that way too. Yay !!!
I'm glad they got the clue. Use Slauson like the no frills mauler
that he is.
9. Kroul. The project o-line convert # 66 got extensive work at
guard. More ofthen than not, defenders had an easy time gettint
around him. Thoug, in the third quarter, I saw him beginning to bend
at the knee, twist his hips and use his hands on the defenders
shoulder to counter him. Once he gets a guy stood up, he can bull
them. He may yet be able to learn the position. More observation is
in order.
10. Sanches... Looked fast, slick and accurate on all the short
patterns. Very impressive. I like it !!!
And I repeat... MAN DOES DUCASSE LOOK BAD.
Ritchie
line so questionable.. McKnight's blocking is horrible!
John C TX
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> My worst fear is that Sanchez is going to get hurt with the offensive
> line so questionable.. McKnight's blocking is horrible!
Ritchie, I would say the opposite. All I saw was that he picked up
the blitz. Granted, one time Reed ran him over but 250 vs 180 that
will happen. Leon Washington was here how long & I never saw him pick
up the blitz in his career as many times as McKnight did in one game.
eric
observations:
1. Kendrick Ellis is a budding star.
2. Kerley will make everyone forget Brad Smith. As a starting WR?
Needs to improve.
3. Derrick Mason will catch everything in his area. However is not
fast and is certainly no #2.
4. Jets OLine backups are terrible. Better hope no first stringers get
injured.
5. Running game not much in evidence, hard to say much about it.
6. The Jets 2010 draft was a bust. Nobody from that year showed
anything and is unlikely to in the future.
7. The new kickoff rules will hurt the Jets as there will be many more
touchbacks leading to longer fields for an average offense that was
helped a lot last year by the league's best KR squad.
8. Better hope Plax can play at the level of Edwards. Otherwise the
offense won't be as good as last year.
9. Red Zone offense didn't show much.
Michael
> Well from the Jets-Texans game last night I have the following
> observations:
>
> 1. Kendrick Ellis is a budding star.
He did not appear to get much push off the ball for a big guy. Still
too early to tell.
> 2. Kerley will make everyone forget Brad Smith. As a starting WR?
> Needs to improve.
I was not sold on him. Questionable hands.
> 3. Derrick Mason will catch everything in his area. However is not
> fast and is certainly no #2.
Yes !
> 4. Jets OLine backups are terrible. Better hope no first stringers get
> injured.
This is their big problem this year. And now Robert Turner is
reported to have a broken leg.
> 5. Running game not much in evidence, hard to say much about it.
Too early to tell. They better not lose any more of their o-line guys
or even Walter Payton would not be able to help their running game.
> 6. The Jets 2010 draft was a bust. Nobody from that year showed
> anything and is unlikely to in the future.
Well.. At least Wilson was aware of the ball this time and got himself
into position.
> 7. The new kickoff rules will hurt the Jets as there will be many more
> touchbacks leading to longer fields for an average offense that was
> helped a lot last year by the league's best KR squad.
NFL = no fun league these days.
> 8. Better hope Plax can play at the level of Edwards. Otherwise the
> offense won't be as good as last year.
I dont think Plax will be at a pro level for a full season if ever
again. I'm not worried. Santonio, Keller and Mason can do it.
> 9. Red Zone offense didn't show much.
Yeah...
Tutor
Jets Oline: The Good, the Vlad and the Ugly. (with Vlad occupying
dual roles in that trio.)
Papa Carl
"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Difference...Washington NEVER was even left in position to pick it up...it
never looked like he was supposed to be doing that and he flat out could not
block at all. When McKnight tries to do it he gets leveled....the way he is
doing it either he or the QB will get killed...there IS a way for 185+ to
attack 250 and it is not the way McKnight did it.
Papa Carl
"eric" <wart...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If Plax plays his usual "my ankle hurts, can't practice" crap they have
stepped way back in receivers.
JohnC(TX)
"Papa Carl" <papa...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Not to run two threads but he got blown up once & made the block 3-4 times.
On Washington I disagree. He never saw it. You mean to tell me they
changed the entire offense for LT so he could pick up the blitz? How many
times did he do it last year?
Papa Carl
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No...they did not change the offense...they had to know Washington could not
pick up a blitz or would he even attempt to do it...hence he went into a
pattern more than not. When you know a guy can not, will not block you
still try to get him to do something useful.
I don't think McKnight was successful in those attempts...he may have gotten
in the way, but he is going to get killed in how he does it...he will not be
healthy long if he does not improve and my guess is he will avoid it when he
gets caved in a few more times.
Papa Carl
> X-No-Archive: Yes
> as well, as good as anyone. If I see a guy at least have teh balls or lack
> of brains to be willing to try tehn I can make a good tackler better and a
> poor one average. Like rebounding in basketball I would assume that the
> effort be the hardest hurdle to overcome, no?
>
> Like I said about Ducasse at least he has film to watch.
I did teach tackling for over 20 some years. And...it was a lot easier to
teach to a guy who felt he may make the team only because he did this well.
Blocking a big guy coming in at the QB is the same. The incentive was all
about it getting someone a place on the team...someone with low skill sets
but a lot of balls. Running backs were always the tougest...they don't see
themselves in their dreams doing that, they only envision scoring TD's and
making elusive moves. Plus....their skill set teaches them to run away,
avoid, elude...it sometimes works against the grain. That's why RB's who
block well are a big deal, and those guys are usually the ones who needed
the least teaching and coaching...they did in naturally and wanted to do it.
I just don't think McKnight fits that mold...maybe I'm wrong but he at least
needs to work on some technique or he is going to get hurt. By this stage
of the game, there are some things he should already know how to do because
he HAS been taught at some point, I would guess it's something he is not
really interested in doing.
Johnny Morongo
> "JohnC(TX)"<johnctx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Papa Carl"<papa...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "John C TX"<johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5127ff18-17de-41a0...@u20g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Aug 16, 12:36 am, Ritchie<ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote:X-No-
>>> Archive: Yes
>>>> My worst fear is that Sanchez is going to get hurt with the offensive
>>>> line so questionable.. McKnight's blocking is horrible!
>>>
>>> Ritchie, I would say the opposite. All I saw was that he picked up
>>> the blitz. Granted, one time Reed ran him over but 250 vs 180 that
>>> up the blitz in his career as many times as McKnight did in one game.
>>>
>>> Difference...Washington NEVER was even left in position to pick it
>>> up...it never looked like he was supposed to be doing that and he flat
>>> out could not block at all. When McKnight tries to do it he gets
>>> leveled....the way he is doing it either he or the QB will get
>>> killed...there IS a way for 185+ to attack 250 and it is not the way
>>> McKnight did it.
>>
>>
>> times.
>>
>> On Washington I disagree. He never saw it. You mean to tell me they
>> changed the entire offense for LT so he could pick up the blitz? How many
>> times did he do it last year?
>
>
> No...they did not change the offense...they had to know Washington could not
> pick up a blitz or would he even attempt to do it...hence he went into a
> pattern more than not. When you know a guy can not, will not block you
> still try to get him to do something useful.
>
> I don't think McKnight was successful in those attempts...he may have gotten
> in the way, but he is going to get killed in how he does it...he will not be
> healthy long if he does not improve and my guess is he will avoid it when he
> gets caved in a few more times.
>
>
Which is why I'm glad that Powell is available. Anthony Lynn, the RB
coach said today that he could jump McKnight for the #3 spot. Actually,
it would be more like the #2 since he could rather easily jump LT as well.
Johnny Morongo
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>>>>> My worst fear is that Sanchez is going to get hurt with the offensive
>>>>> line so questionable.. McKnight's blocking is horrible!
>>>>
>>>> Ritchie, I would say the opposite. All I saw was that he picked up
>>>> the blitz. Granted, one time Reed ran him over but 250 vs 180 that
>>>> up the blitz in his career as many times as McKnight did in one game.
>>>>
>>>> Difference...Washington NEVER was even left in position to pick it
>>>> up...it never looked like he was supposed to be doing that and he flat
>>>> out could not block at all. When McKnight tries to do it he gets
>>>> leveled....the way he is doing it either he or the QB will get
>>>> killed...there IS a way for 185+ to attack 250 and it is not the way
>>>> McKnight did it.
>>>
>>>
>>> times.
>>>
>>> On Washington I disagree. He never saw it. You mean to tell me they
>>> changed the entire offense for LT so he could pick up the blitz? How
>>> many times did he do it last year?
>>
>>
>> No...they did not change the offense...they had to know Washington could
>> not pick up a blitz or would he even attempt to do it...hence he went into
>> a pattern more than not. When you know a guy can not, will not block you
>> still try to get him to do something useful.
>>
>> I don't think McKnight was successful in those attempts...he may have
>> gotten in the way, but he is going to get killed in how he does it...he
>> will not be healthy long if he does not improve and my guess is he will
>> avoid it when he gets caved in a few more times.
>
> well, as good as anyone. If I see a guy at least have teh balls or lack of
> brains to be willing to try tehn I can make a good tackler better and a poor
> one average. Like rebounding in basketball I would assume that the effort
> be the hardest hurdle to overcome, no?
>
> Like I said about Ducasse at least he has film to watch.
>
>
Seems like we might be in the same boat on Ducaase, you hick. Football
does indeed make strange bedfellows, no? I'll wait a while before I
trash him.
And as far as Papa's preceptions of Vlad go, well his eyesight is what
you might expect from someone as old and decrepit as he.
Papa Carl
"Johnny Morongo" <Mor...@Burf.com> wrote in message
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Just saw the eye doc...20/20.
Papa Carl
"Johnny Morongo" <Mor...@Burf.com> wrote in message
Yup...that's what I would think. He runs as well and he seems to have more
desire to do some hitting. Good blocking is one of the reasons RB's don't
last too long. It is a very physical position if not the most physically
demanding I think.
Johnny Morongo
>>
>> Which is why I'm glad that Powell is available. Anthony Lynn, the RB
>> coach said today that he could jump McKnight for the #3 spot. Actually,
>> it would be more like the #2 since he could rather easily jump LT as well.
>
> Yup...that's what I would think. He runs as well and he seems to have more
> desire to do some hitting. Good blocking is one of the reasons RB's don't
> last too long. It is a very physical position if not the most physically
> demanding I think.
>
Interesting point. Good observation papa.
Johnny Morongo
That can't be anything but good. My own is not near.
Papa Carl
"Johnny Morongo" <Mor...@Burf.com> wrote in message
That's with my glasses, but I came away from a very bad situation with no
damage, and that was a miracle. I can still hear really well too, although
my wife will not tell you that.
Johnny Morongo
LOL at that...my wife has nagged me into getting hearing tests and lo
and behold...I *DO* have a hearing loss, at the upper range. I told her
it was in just the range of her voice and she threw a shoe at me.
JohnC(TX)
"Johnny Morongo" <Mor...@Burf.com> wrote in message
LOL
My hearing is fine but gentically I am predisposed not to listen.
JohnC(TX)
"Johnny Morongo" <Mor...@Burf.com> wrote in message
They will carry at least 4 plus Conner. Please don't carry 2 FB's & 4
useless TE's again.
Johnny Morongo
> useless TE's again.
>
>
I guess they value blocking rather highly. But you're right; they can
have too much of a good(?) thing. That roster space is important.
Papa Carl
"Johnny Morongo" <Mor...@Burf.com> wrote in message
I got sent to the hearing specialist ! My wife is a nurse and knows most of
the doctors I see locally, so she tells me GP that she thinks I had a major
hearing loss during transplant. It can happen from all the antibiotics and
anesthesia. So I get the referral, go to see the guy and get the full
treatment, in the sound proof booth etc. Then he meets with me and tells me
I hear better than 95% of the people in my age group and asks if the problem
might not be "situational" or "selective".....I refused to answer on the
grounds that it might incriminate me.