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Rotalius Jephersun

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Jan 4, 2011, 8:19:44 AM1/4/11
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Smithee

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Jan 4, 2011, 8:23:59 AM1/4/11
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On Jan 4, 8:19 am, Rotalius Jephersun <RR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Does it ever end with this club?http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582

I don't think so... now Rex is now saying that the Jets playing the
Colts is "personal." I know his players supposedly love playing for
him but, man oh man...

cloud dreamer

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Jan 4, 2011, 8:30:19 AM1/4/11
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It's personal alright. If he goes one and done, he risks being
personally out of the job...maybe not this year, but next if he falters
again.

;]

--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us

yoyodog

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To all 3 of you (cloud dreamer, Smithee, Rotalius Jephersun) new or rare
posters... in your dreams, in your dreams...


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Ray O'Hara

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Mangenius anyone/


yoyodog

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"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> On Jan 4, 8:19 am, Rotalius Jephersun<RR...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Does it ever end with this
> >>> club?http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5985582
>
> >> I don't think so... now Rex is now saying that the Jets playing the
> >> Colts is "personal." I know his players supposedly love playing for
> >> him but, man oh man...
>
> > It's personal alright. If he goes one and done, he risks being
> > personally
> > out of the job...maybe not this year, but next if he falters again.
>
> > ;]
>
> > --
> > We must change the way we live
> > Or the climate will do it for us
>
> To all 3 of you (cloud dreamer, Smithee, Rotalius Jephersun) new or rare
> posters... in your dreams, in your dreams...

>>Yo, smithee is a Pats guy (gal) and outside of his man (gal) love for
BB is an OK fan but jumping in here on something our ex-QB did sets
off the douche bag alarm.

He (she) is still a pretty rare poster here. But I understand the Pats fans
fear of Rex. First legitimate threat to BB and the Pats in years. After
all, if Rex didn't come here to kiss BB's rings, BB isn't staying in
coaching to kiss Rex's feet, though Rex would LOVE that ;-)


Ritchie

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Jan 4, 2011, 9:49:41 AM1/4/11
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On Jan 4, 8:30 am, cloud dreamer <S...@Resources.now> wrote:
> It's personal alright. If he goes one and done, he risks being
> personally out of the job...maybe not this year, but next if he falters
> again.

Wishful thinking, Ryan (to my disappointment) is here for the long
haul.

Ritchie

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Jan 4, 2011, 9:53:56 AM1/4/11
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On Jan 4, 9:40 am, "yoyodog" <NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> BB is an OK fan but jumping in here on something our ex-QB did sets
> off the douche bag alarm.
>
> He (she) is still a pretty rare poster here.  But I understand the Pats fans
> fear of Rex.  First legitimate threat to BB and the Pats in years. After
> all, if Rex didn't come here to kiss BB's rings, BB isn't staying in
> coaching to kiss Rex's feet, though Rex would LOVE that

Do you really think that the pats, their fans or Belichick think of
Ryan as a threat? I dont think Belichick even considers Ryan or the
Jets good enough to do his laundry. I am a Jet fan, but a realistic
one.

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eric

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Jan 4, 2011, 10:21:29 AM1/4/11
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Initially it seemed like Ryan was going in the right direction, but as
time has gone by it has become more and more apparent that he is just
an over-inflated windbag. I would say that given his personal behavior
sooner or later he's going to do something that is going to so deeply
disgust people he will be fired before ownership gets tired of waiting
for a championship.

Ritchie

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Jan 4, 2011, 10:31:51 AM1/4/11
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On Jan 4, 10:21 am, eric <warth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Initially it seemed like Ryan was going in the right direction, but as
> time has gone by it has become more and more apparent that he is just
> an over-inflated windbag. I would say that given his personal behavior
> sooner or later he's going to do something that is going to so deeply
> disgust people he will be fired before ownership gets tired of waiting
> for a championship.

I agree, his type always do themselves in. He will do or say something
that wont be liked at all and Woody will have no choice but to fire
him. What scares me with that is that if Schott is still here when
that happens and knowing Woody's love affair with Schott, he will me
made the HC.

Ritchie

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Jan 4, 2011, 10:41:21 AM1/4/11
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On Jan 4, 10:03 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ritchie, I like him overall. He is a good coach  & the first since
> Parcells.  I think there have been some distractions this year -- on
> the field--and he has been putting out fires.  I don't think he trusts
> his OC & gets involved leaving Pettine to run the defense hurting us
> on both sides of the ball.

Personally I think he doesn't get involved at all with the offense. A
few weeks ago he stated that he had a meeting with Sanchez for the
first time this season and that was about 9 or 10 weeks into the
season. That is something that coaches do on a regular, most likely
weekly basis with their QB's. Belichick is a defensive genius but even
he and Brady break down film together (don't know if its the game
films or the secretly taped ones though) over the course of the
season. Ryan, IMO is in over his head just like his dad was when he
became a HC. Buddy was a defensive genius but a horrible HC. I think
that Ryan is no where near as good as his dad was and has bitten off
more than he can chew just like his dad did.

> Next year is the big year for him and it will be related to the salary
> cap & signing: Edwards, Holmes, Smith, & Cromartie.

Yes next year (sigh) will be the test, if there is a season that is.

yoyodog

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"Ritchie" <ritch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Threat or not, these Jets under Ryan is the closest thing to a threat that
Belichick has had since being the HC of the NEP. Not there yet but even
honest Pats fans will admit that it is getting closer than when the Jets
were led by either Squirm or Mangenius.


Dano

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Jan 4, 2011, 11:16:51 AM1/4/11
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"yoyodog" <NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Fear" of Rex? Seriously? Personally...as a Pat's fan...I LOVE the guy.
Best thing to happen to the rivalry in years. Since Mangini at least. You
guys have great taste in coaches. Hilarious. Let's see. When was that
last Superbowl victory for the Jets? Well I'll give credit where it's due.
Your guys have a great SB winning percentage. :-)

Thanks pal...but I think we're reasonably happy with boring old BB here
running OUR franchise. But by all means...enjoy the ever entertaining Rex
the Wondercoach and his "super(foot)model" wifey. I know I'm praying to get
the Jets as an opponent. That would be fun.

3...@366.com

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Jan 4, 2011, 11:34:03 AM1/4/11
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Make no mistake about it, the Pats will win against whatever opponent
they face. But they will have to put up a good fight to do it, every
opponent will be a tough challenger, full of detemination to win.

Ultimately the Pats will triumph but they'll have to work
their *ss off to do it.

We can't take any opponent lightly as the playoffs start.
And that includes the Jets. Ultimately the Pats are going
against the best teams in the league.


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Dano

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Jan 4, 2011, 2:56:09 PM1/4/11
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<3...@366.com> wrote in message news:

> Make no mistake about it, the Pats will win against whatever opponent
> they face. But they will have to put up a good fight to do it, every
> opponent will be a tough challenger, full of detemination to win.
>
> Ultimately the Pats will triumph but they'll have to work
> their *ss off to do it.
>
> We can't take any opponent lightly as the playoffs start.
> And that includes the Jets. Ultimately the Pats are going
> against the best teams in the league.
>
>

Sure. But do you doubt that they worked their asses off in those multiple
touchdown victories of late? You think anyone let them coast? When you
beat the pants off ANY opponent, you have worked your ass off. That's what
wins.

When a team DOESN'T give their best, you get a game like that Cleveland
game. Anyone can beat you.

John Vamp

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Jan 4, 2011, 3:00:24 PM1/4/11
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On Jan 4, 9:40 am, "yoyodog" <NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> But I understand the Pats fans
> fear of Rex.  First legitimate threat to BB and the Pats in years. After
> all, if Rex didn't come here to kiss BB's rings, BB isn't staying in
> coaching to kiss Rex's feet, though Rex would LOVE that ;-)

Rex is a good football coach. He's very strange, with the wife/video/
feet/sex stuff, but he's a good coach. His players rally around him
and they buy what he's selling. And that's important.

That said, he's never won anything, really. Two trips to the playoffs
(one of which was a gift from Indy and Cincy). No division titles
(not even close to one, really), no conference championships. The
last team to win the AFC East besides New England wasn't NY...it was
Miami in 2008.

I'm not saying that the Jets can't win the AFC...I think if things
break right for them they certainly can. But I think most Pats fans
are pretty confident if Sanchez and the Jets come to Foxboro on a cold
January night for a playoff game.

papa.carl44

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"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ritchie, I like him overall. He is a good coach & the first since


Parcells. I think there have been some distractions this year -- on
the field--and he has been putting out fires. I don't think he trusts
his OC & gets involved leaving Pettine to run the defense hurting us
on both sides of the ball.

Next year is the big year for him and it will be related to the salary


cap & signing: Edwards, Holmes, Smith, & Cromartie.

He needs to tighten up his mess....all around. The "bad boys" were not as
big of a distraction as other crap that went on....how Rex responds post
season will say a lot about his future.


papa.carl44

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> Yeah, winning 11 games is going in the wrong direction... especially, when
> you don't have
> the horses on D. He's been able to field a competetive D, for most of the
> season, with
> smoke & mirrors. As for his behavior, how could anyone live up to such a
> sterling example
> as yourself? I'm sure you're perfect, and never make mistakes in
> judgement, like the rest
> of us.

I guess these guys don't think a real D line is necessary. He has gotten
away with using guys who would NEVER start on another D. Nuff said.


papa.carl44

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Listen Drano...go have another beer and flush out the toilet...go back to
Boston, if you have to come here to carry on it is only an indicator you
have no friends at home :-)


papa.carl44

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I'm a Jets fan...but I'm also very much a football fan. I like watching
what BB does...he is a very good coach and I appreciate that...plus, he has
a great QB...and even more impressive, he manages to get the most out of
what he has and that I love to see. I hope some of what he does can rub off
on the Jets. Now, I'll still root for the Jets next week and hope they mess
up BB's good thing.


Smithee

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On Jan 4, 11:06 am, "yoyodog" <NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Ritchie" <ritchie1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

The problem for Jets fans is that this is as close as they're going to
get. THIS was the Patriots rebuilding year. Loads of rookies and
second year guys, traded away Randy Moss, etc, etc. Ryan was right to
try and load up this season because the Pats are going to be better
next season. Oh, and lets not forget the 6 draft picks in the first
three rounds, of which 3 of them are in the first 33...

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Ritchie

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On Jan 4, 11:54 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> I understand ya don't like Rex, but come on.
> Two years/two playoffs.  Top 10 D, two years in a row, with a lot of JAGs.
> Will he win us a Vince... who knows, but he certainly hasn't been in over his head.
> And he's been given a lot of problem-child players, who've all stayed in-line, except for
> Braylon's DUI.  How many times have the Jets won 10, then 11 games, in consec years?
> BTW, he never said it was the 1st time he & MS had a meeting, this season.  

I pretty sure he said it was the first time that he had a meeting with
Sanchez during the season. It was a topic of discussion on ESPN and on
the Francesa show.

eric

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On Jan 4, 11:58 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, winning 11 games is going in the wrong direction... especially, when you don't have
> the horses on D.  He's been able to field a competetive D, for most of the season, with
> smoke & mirrors.  As for his behavior, how could anyone live up to such a sterling example
> as yourself? I'm sure you're perfect, and never make mistakes in judgement, like the rest
> of us.

Nobody is perfect, but if I had been found behaving on my job like Rex
was to the reporter Sainz I would have immediately been fired. Ryan is
management and as such is responsible for maintaining a proper work
place.

I'd bet this incident is going to be front and center when the
therapist's law suit comes up to trial.

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eric

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On Jan 4, 8:38 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:55:40 -0800 (PST), eric <warth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 4, 11:58 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
>
> >> Yeah, winning 11 games is going in the wrong direction... especially, when you don't have
> >> the horses on D. He's been able to field a competetive D, for most of the season, with
> >> smoke & mirrors. As for his behavior, how could anyone live up to such a sterling example
> >> as yourself? I'm sure you're perfect, and never make mistakes in judgement, like the rest
> >> of us.
>
> >Nobody is perfect, but if I had been found behaving on my job like Rex
> >was to the reporter Sainz I would have immediately been fired. Ryan is
> >management and as such is responsible for maintaining a proper work
> >place.
>
> How exactly, did Rex behave to the reporter?

>
>
>
> >I'd bet this incident is going to be front and center when the
> >therapist's law suit comes up to trial.

http://www.gacksports.com/4410/nfl-investigating-ny-jets-for-sexually-harassing-behavior-toward-female-reporter/

John Vamp

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On Jan 4, 8:47 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> Of course, you're confident... why wouldn't you be?
>
> On the other hand, as a Jets fan I'm not particularly scared of the Pats, especially your
> D.  

Pats' defense:

- gave up just 9 fewer points on the entire season than the Jets
(finished #8 in the NFL in pts allowed)
- had 36 takeaways (#1 in NFL)
- last 5 games: allowed just 9.4 pts, 294.8 yds, 3.6 turnovers
created per game

Those are numbers that speak of a much better defense than they're
given credit for. Granted, they tend to allow a lot of yards (but the
last 5 games, not so much) and 3rd down conversions, but the last 5
weeks they've really clamped down on both. I gave you the yds allowed
in the past 5 games above, but how about 3rd down conversions? 24-62
(38.7%, which would rank them #10 in the NFL...not the best, but
certainly a *huge* improvement from earlier in the year).

> I'm more concerned with the lameness of our OC, & whether he'll prepare the O to play
> the Pats, or just follow his misguided plan, which is the same against all opponents.
>
> As for your O, it's a pleasure to watch, but can be physically beaten.  The question is if
> the Jets can do it for a full 60... of course, easier said than done  ;)

Yep. Much easier said than done. But any Pats fan that thinks this
team cannot be beaten is kidding himself. Nevertheless, the Pats' A
game is better than anyone else's A game, so if they bring their A
game, they'll be holding the Lombardi Trophy.

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John Vamp

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On Jan 5, 1:17 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> Stats never do much for me, because they can be spun in, oh, so many ways.
> I'd say one key for your D, is the O it has covering it's back.
> Brady doesn't throw turnovers, & the O scores a lot... so, the D is rarely under any
> pressure.  Your D is, generally, with a lead, and often with a significant lead.  That
> would skew the D stats bigtime.  Pressure the D, and the equation changes.
>
> As I said, if a team can physically compete with the Pats O, the rest will fall into
> place.  Again, easier said than done, but I can see it by a few teams the Pats may play.
>
> Should be fun.  Hope we get to play one another next week!

The weird thing about this D is that they seem to come up with big
stops as they're needed.

- Week 3, vs Buf: Leading 38-30, the offense can't get out of its own
way and they are forced to punt the ball back to the Bills, who take
over at their 35 with 3:04 to go. Meriweather intercepts Fitzpatrick
to seal the game.

- Week 4, vs Bal: Down 20-17, the Pats' D stops Baltimore at the
Ravens' 47, forcing a punt and setting up NE's game-tying FG drive.
Then, after Balt gets the ball with 1:51 left, the Pats force a 3-and-
out. Then, in OT, the Pats stop Baltimore on three straight drives
before winning the game late in overtime.

- Week 5, at SD: Ahead 23-20, the offense gives the rallying Chargers
the ball back on the Pats' 47 with 1:55 to play. The Chargers look
like they're going to drive for the win but Sergio Brown tackles Gates
two yards short of the first down, and SD ends up missing a 50-yard
game-tying FG attempt.

- Week 11, vs Ind: Ahead 31-28 and the Colts rallying, the Pats'
offense is trying to run out the clock, to no avail. Four plays, 17
yds, and just 2:21 run off the clock, and NE punts to Indy, who takes
over at their 26 with 2:25 to play. An eternity for Peyton Manning.
He moves the ball downfield but then, on 1st and 10 from the Pats' 24,
James Sanders intercepts Manning at the NE 6 to seal the win.

- Week 15, vs GB: The Pats, trailing 27-24, score the go-ahead TD
with slightly more than 7 minutes left. They allow one first down,
but then force GB to punt. Then, ahead 31-27, the Pats once again
can't run out the clock (see a frustrating pattern here?), giving the
ball back to GB on the Packer 43 with 4:22 to go. GB moves the ball,
but on 4th and 1 from the NE 15, the Pats sack the QB and force a
fumble to end the game.

That's 5 games this year that, whatever flaws this D has (and they do
have flaws), they seem to come up with the big stop late in games.

eric

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On Jan 5, 1:09 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >http://www.gacksports.com/4410/nfl-investigating-ny-jets-for-sexually...
>
> So, he threw a ball near Sainz, and acted like a child with his players.
> Poor judgement... that's an offense to be fired?

His owner had to issue a public apology for his team's behavior. Those
responsible are generally sacked when that sort of thing happens.

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