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Michael

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Mar 29, 2011, 10:45:22 AM3/29/11
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On Mar 29, 10:34 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> He has some good stuff on here.  It shows all our draft picks & some
> interesting analysis on the new  KO rules. I figure anything is better
> than me knocking head  with Papa over Woodhead & Schott.
>
> http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets

Some good stuff. It will be interesting to see how the new KO rules
work out on the field. I dont know what do think even with all the
analysis. Recently, I've been checking out info on all the d-line
guys that are available in the draft. There are quite a few of them,
but no "Suh's". Few if any of them are complete prospects. I would
not be surprised if the Jets do not draft a d-line guy as much as they
need one.

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Michael

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Mar 29, 2011, 11:33:02 AM3/29/11
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> If they draft him & he contributes that is a big help.
>
> Fairley -- who will never reach us-- may be a monster.  He is also a
> bonehead so he may be Haynesworth.

Major red Flags come along with Fairley. Gholston looked like a
monster too. Who needs to be reminded? I'd prefer "safe" to "boom or
bust" right now.

Since Bowers has possible knee issues, the only "complete" D-line
prospect is Dareus. Wishful thinking to the people who are comparing
him to Suh, but he is at least the most complete defensive player in
the draft. After him, the odds of getting a good player decrease
substantially, IMHO.

Some mock drafts have the Jets taking hybrid DE-OLB Ayers (UCLA).
Said to have proven pass rushing skills. His sack total was said to
be hampered by playing as a down line guy and not OLB. I never saw him
play, but it sounds interesting. Nice and versitile with some out of
the box ability.

Even the QB's in this draft are questionable. They are all ranked by
default. This is one very strange draft.

MZ

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Mar 29, 2011, 3:39:20 PM3/29/11
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If the Jets can grab a DLman, they can kick him inside on passing
downs and let Ellis rush off the edge like he used to. I think when
Rex tries to incorporate traditional edge rushers into the mix it
waters down his defense. I'd rather he work on adding beef to both
lines and somehow address the safety position.

Michael

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Mar 29, 2011, 3:43:45 PM3/29/11
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> lines and somehow address the safety position.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

safety ??? hmmm... poole was doing a good job late in the season.
poole with leonhard is a good starting line-up, no ??? smith as back-
up or for big nickle

MZ

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Mar 29, 2011, 3:59:05 PM3/29/11
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I was not impressed with Pool. I like Leonhard a lot, but he's
somewhat limited if the wrong matchup comes his way. I think you need
another starting caliber safety, keep Pool around for passing downs,
and let Leonhard take as much of Smith's (and previously Ihedigbo's)
in-the-box role as possible. Even though Smith made some nice plays
here and there. Need to shore up any possible holes in that secondary
so Rex can work his magic in the front 7.

But this could all be moot if the safety position is as weak in this
draft as they say it is.

Michael

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Mar 29, 2011, 4:50:12 PM3/29/11
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> draft as they say it is.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

i think leonhard works well so long as the FS has range and closing
speed. Pool seems to be able to cover ground. Not an ideal set up,
but not all that bad. i doubt they will get a safety in the draft.
most if not all the commentators say there are not even any early
second round quality safetys this year. the only guy i hear about is
aaron willims cb/fs longhorns. he will probably go early second
round. he's ranked as a lower tier cb, but expected to get better
attention as a potential FS. i hear he has size, is agressive, but
can get fooled by good wr's in man coverage. The highest rated pure FS
is rahim moore of UCLA. He's projected to be a mid 2'nd rounder. it
is said that he is a smart natural leader with decent cover skills but
does not do well getting guys on the ground.

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Michael

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Mar 29, 2011, 7:57:18 PM3/29/11
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On Mar 29, 6:17 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > He has some good stuff on here.  It shows all our draft picks & some
> > > > > interesting analysis on the new  KO rules. I figure anything is better
> > > > > than me knocking head  with Papa over Woodhead & Schott.
>
> > > > >http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets
>
> > > > Some good stuff.  It will be interesting to see how the new KO rules
> > > > work out on the field.  I dont know what do think even with all the
> > > > analysis.   Recently, I've been checking out info on all the d-line
> > > > guys that are available in the draft.  There are quite a few of them,
> > > > but no "Suh's".  Few if any of them are complete prospects.  I would
> > > > not be surprised if the Jets do not draft a d-line guy as much as they
> > > > need one.
>
> > > If they draft him & he contributes that is a big help.
>
> > > Fairley -- who will never reach us-- may be a monster.  He is also a
> > > bonehead so he may be Haynesworth.
>
> > Major red Flags come along with Fairley.  Gholston looked like a
> > monster too.  Who needs to be reminded?  I'd prefer "safe" to "boom or
> > bust" right now.
>
> Gholston looked like a monster to whom?

more than just myself, considering he was drafted in the top ten by a
pro team. of course, he did not have you fooled.

Michael

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Mar 29, 2011, 8:20:24 PM3/29/11
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On Mar 29, 6:17 pm, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> > > > > He has some good stuff on here.  It shows all our draft picks & some
> > > > > interesting analysis on the new  KO rules. I figure anything is better
> > > > > than me knocking head  with Papa over Woodhead & Schott.
>
> > > > >http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets
>
> > > > Some good stuff.  It will be interesting to see how the new KO rules
> > > > work out on the field.  I dont know what do think even with all the
> > > > analysis.   Recently, I've been checking out info on all the d-line
> > > > guys that are available in the draft.  There are quite a few of them,
> > > > but no "Suh's".  Few if any of them are complete prospects.  I would
> > > > not be surprised if the Jets do not draft a d-line guy as much as they
> > > > need one.
>
> > > If they draft him & he contributes that is a big help.
>
> > > Fairley -- who will never reach us-- may be a monster.  He is also a
> > > bonehead so he may be Haynesworth.
>
> > Major red Flags come along with Fairley.  Gholston looked like a
> > monster too.  Who needs to be reminded?  I'd prefer "safe" to "boom or
> > bust" right now.
>
> Gholston looked like a monster to whom?

>
>
>
> > Since Bowers has possible knee issues, the only "complete" D-line
> > prospect is Dareus.  Wishful thinking to the people who are comparing
> > him to Suh, but he is at least the most complete defensive player in
> > the draft.  After him, the odds of getting a good player decrease
> > substantially, IMHO.
>
> Fairley was a game changer. He was also a cheap shot artist but this
> isn't a chess match it is boxing match.  I saw both Fairley & Dareus
> play several times.  It wasn't close who had more impact.  I am not
> saying he will be a better pro but Fairley was the better college
> player.

there is some room for debate there, but i will take your word for
it. i only saw a few highlights. fairley looked more explosive, but
dareus is said to be more consistent. as far as the jets go, no need
to worry. even if they wanted to pull off a draft coup, no chance of
that this year. draft day trades or swaps are off due to the cba
issues. i think, though, some back room dealing will be going on.

> > Some mock drafts have the Jets taking hybrid DE-OLB Ayers (UCLA).
> > Said to have proven pass rushing skills.  His sack total was said to
> > be hampered by playing as a down line guy and not OLB. I never saw him
> > play, but it sounds interesting.  Nice and versitile with some out of
> > the box ability.
>
> > Even the QB's in this draft are questionable.  They are all ranked by
> > default.  This is one very strange draft.
>

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Michael

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Mar 30, 2011, 10:05:00 AM3/30/11
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On Mar 30, 8:34 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Gholston looked like a monster to whom?
>
> > more than just myself, considering he was drafted in the top ten by a
> > pro team.  of course, he did not have you fooled.
>
> Last I checked you didn't draft him so I wasn't pointing my finger at
> you. I was referring to his rising draft status after the combine.
> Fairley played great on the field all year and had good combine #'s as
> well.
>
> As for Gholston I wasn't sure.  Both because of getting so many sacks
> in one game as % of his total but more because I just hate those high
> picks. The risk reward is too great.

i dont know anything about fairley other than what i read and hear.
the "experts" are saying that fairley takes plays off. is that bull
shit ??? you know how it goes with media and experts at times. one
guy puts it out and the rest follow. when i hear that he takes plays
off, i think of what they said about gholston. and it was not true.
gholston does not take plays off. he took his pro career off.

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