jets-vikes... a few thoughts...
Michael
hard.
2. great job by the entire o-line pass protecting including slauson
who did impressive work. he's working with brick a lot better now.
obviously callahan is doing a good job coaching them up.
3. revis may not be 100 % any time soon.
4. who was responsible for the play calling and clock management in
the late 4th quarter ??? how in hell did they decide to call a pass
and turn it over to the vikes before the stop for the two minute
warning ??? that has to be one of the most inept things i've seen with
clock management since herm edwards.
John C TX
> 1. too many dropped passes. this game should not have been this
> hard.
A game of inches becomes miles if Edwards-- 1st one of the year--&
Holmes don't drop those balls. Holmes looked promising on those
slants.
> 2. great job by the entire o-line pass protecting including slauson
> who did impressive work. he's working with brick a lot better now.
> obviously callahan is doing a good job coaching them up.
I didn't rewind but on Sanchez' last pass there was a breakdown on the
left side. I couldn't catch if it was Mangold or Slausson.
> 3. revis may not be 100 % any time soon.
He isn't fit. He got turned around & pushed over on one route.
> 4. who was responsible for the play calling and clock management in
> the late 4th quarter ??? how in hell did they decide to call a pass
> and turn it over to the vikes before the stop for the two minute
> warning ??? that has to be one of the most inept things i've seen with
> clock management since herm edwards.
I agree. Here is the series. After the 1st down to Holmes Sanchez
seemed rushed I can't recall if the lock was ticking but it was if we
were losing-- didn't they take a TO?
Anyway the 2nd & 11 call was just stupid and Sanchez snapped it too
soon. If the tv was right & not the #'s below, I was watching the
time clock, he could have taken it down to 2:02 or 2:03. So if we
ran it then 2:00 minute warning was used & it was 3rd down & we run it
again.
1st-10, NYJ22 3:03 L. Tomlinson rushed to the right for 2 yard
gain
2nd-8, NYJ24 2:59 M. Sanchez passed to S. Holmes to the left for
11 yard gain
1st-10, NYJ35 2:47 L. Tomlinson rushed up the middle for 1 yard
loss
2nd-11, NYJ34 2:08 M. Sanchez incomplete pass to the right
3rd-11, NYJ34 2:04 M. Sanchez incomplete pass to the left -- THIS
WAS THE PLAY WHERE THE OL broke down.
4th-11, NYJ34 1:48 S. Weatherford punt, no return
Glenn Greenstein
> 1. too many dropped passes. this game should not have been this
> hard.
> 2. great job by the entire o-line pass protecting including slauson
> who did impressive work. he's working with brick a lot better now.
> obviously callahan is doing a good job coaching them
What game did you watch. Sanchez was running for his life at least
half the time if not more.
Tutor
Tutor
Glenn, I watched the line play a lot last night. Protection was
pretty good. Remember the Minny pass rush is one of the best in the
league and the Jets contained it well. Brick had his best game after
a shaky start to the season. Slauson coming along nicely and Woody
looking much better too.
Harlan Lachman
<b8c8f394-ad8f-4945...@j25g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Michael <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote:
Michael, I loved both passing calls on second down. The first one got us
a first down to Holmes.
I think the issue with the second was that Sanchez did not let the play
clock run until the last second before he threw wildly to Holmes.
The calls on second down were the right ones. We were trying to get
first downs. If we had made the second one, the Vikes might never have
gotten the ball back. You saw how they rushed on third down. Second down
was the time to throw.
harlan
Harlan Lachman
<e86c9623-c4d6-4ed2...@l14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
John C TX <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyway the 2nd & 11 call was just stupid and Sanchez snapped it too
> soon. If the tv was right & not the #'s below, I was watching the
> time clock, he could have taken it down to 2:02 or 2:03. So if we
> ran it then 2:00 minute warning was used & it was 3rd down & we run it
> again.
John, thanks for confirming what I suspected. The pass call was not the
problem, it was the winding down the clock.
h
Michael
glenn... i have to as you the same question... what game did you
watch ??? sanchez had plenty of time to throw the ball and there was
no regular breakdown in protection. when sanchez improvised (ran) it
was because he tried to extend the play... the line regularly got him
least 3-4 seconds. also... running lanes looked very good to me and
both sides of the line created holes with power blocking. the vikes d-
line is not a "slouch" line. i actually saw slauson adjust himself a
few times in protection. thus far, that was the most promising
performance i saw from him yet.
Michael
> In article
> <b8c8f394-ad8f-4945-a0c6-bbd75b3f8...@j25g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > 1. too many dropped passes. this game should not have been this
> > hard.
> > 2. great job by the entire o-line pass protecting including slauson
> > who did impressive work. he's working with brick a lot better now.
> > obviously callahan is doing a good job coaching them up.
> > 3. revis may not be 100 % any time soon.
> > 4. who was responsible for the play calling and clock management in
> > the late 4th quarter ??? how in hell did they decide to call a pass
> > and turn it over to the vikes before the stop for the two minute
> > warning ??? that has to be one of the most inept things i've seen with
> > clock management since herm edwards.
>
> Michael, I loved both passing calls on second down. The first one got us
> a first down to Holmes.
glenn.. i know schotty wants to be unpredictable, but i just dont see
the passing calls on that drive as being the way to go under those
circumstances.
> I think the issue with the second was that Sanchez did not let the play
> clock run until the last second before he threw wildly to Holmes.
that was a mistake too... he should know better...
> The calls on second down were the right ones. We were trying to get
> first downs. If we had made the second one, the Vikes might never have
> gotten the ball back. You saw how they rushed on third down. Second down
> was the time to throw.
i would have ran it... i think that was the better choice... but... if
they executed the pass, i guess it would have been "a good call"
coulda been, but it wasnt.
Glenn Greenstein
I don't agree, I saw him throwing out of a sea of purple at least half
the time, especially on third down.
I don't think anyone had a particularly bad game on the line and as
Dave pointed out, Da Brick was solid but there were break downs.
Michael
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i think this might be a tv vs. @ the game observations. were you at
the game or in front of the tv ?? ??? i was at the game. the "sea of
purple" was being held up by a classic pocket for as long as you could
ask a line to do so. it was not a perfect game, but the jets o-line
handled the vikes a lot better than most would have. "breakdowns" in
this case were a result of the vikes doing well enough to cause
problems for even the best of them. like the favre td pass to moss.
the coverage was good on that play.
Glenn Greenstein
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I was home> I will say they kept playerrs out from in front of chez
but they were really close by on the sides. there was pressure.
Michael
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yeah... they had good pressure... all things considerd, the jets o-
line did good. i'd give them a B + it was nice to see that the left
side of the line is starting to find its way again. room for
improvement for sure, but at least they show that they are moving
ahead.
i think the jets big problem was the dropped passes. they let the
vikes stay in the game because of that.
Harlan Lachman
<e1c0e68f-f32a-4111...@z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Michael <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote:
Michael, they did run it. They ran for negative yardage (average) on the
two first down calls. Running the ball would have just given the ball
back with less time (but not much and less yardage to make).
I think those who run the ball, conceding the first down IMHO, are
playing not to lose. I like giving our team two chances to win.
Harlan
BicketyBam
news:harlan-5AADC2....@news60.forteinc.com:
I loved the pass calls, but as others pointed out, Sanchez snapped the
ball to soon. I actually said to myself, "Call a pass here and snap it
with 1 second on the play clock." My thinking was it was a chance to
pass with no fear of an incompletion because the clock was going to stop
for the 2 minute warning anyway. I nearly shit myself when he snapped it
early and threw incomplete.
But the call was the right one (just poorly executed). Parcells used to
do this on a regular basis. Put the hammer down. Win the game right
there. I have no problem with that.
Harlan Lachman
BicketyBam <Blo...@joemama.net> wrote:
Yup to both points!
h
John C TX
> Harlan Lachman <har...@eeivt.com> wrote innews:harlan-5AADC2....@news60.forteinc.com:
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> > In article
I have to admit I was crapping my drawers and didn't know what they
should do.