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Michael

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Feb 10, 2011, 4:28:30 PM2/10/11
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Not a good sign...

From what I can make out of all of this... It appears to me as if the
union is intent on over playing their hand.

Ritchie

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Feb 10, 2011, 6:15:38 PM2/10/11
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On Feb 10, 4:28 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-union-cancel-contract-talks-02...

>
> Not a good sign...
>
> From what I can make out of all of this... It appears to me as if the
> union is intent on over playing their hand.

I think the NFL is headed for a long lockout and a shortened 2011
season. I say they play a 12 game season.

Michael

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Feb 10, 2011, 9:02:13 PM2/10/11
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i'm guessing that there will be no pre-season games and the lockout
ends in early september.

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Harlan Lachman

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Feb 11, 2011, 10:18:41 AM2/11/11
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In article
<7390c803-06f2-4511...@u6g2000vbh.googlegroups.com>,
John C TX <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
> > http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-union-cancel-contract-talks-02...


> >
> > Not a good sign...
> >
> > From what I can make out of all of this... It appears to me as if the
> > union is intent on over playing their hand.
>

> They get one chance to cut this deal. Upshaw's last deal was great
> for the owner's initially but is revenue based so the growth in
> revenue at the back end now looks better for some players. The owners
> wanted a revenue based deal as they didn't want to open their books
> and still don't.
>
> Smith is under pressure to deliver. He also has to crank the pressure
> up quickly as he has idiots like Cromartie that have no $. They have
> painted the owners as the bad guys although when times are bad many
> fans just see young athletes making millions.

John, the owners do not need to be "painted" as bad guys.

They cannot agree among themselves to revenue sharing so we end up with
franchises like the Jills where a refusal to spend money does not
coincide with the revenue sharing they get from the high income clubs.

And, the owners insistence on taking more than 10% off the top and then,
if rumors be true, another more than 10% ($2 billion) before revenue
sharing is piggish.

More importantly, IMHO, are the refusals to consider a phase-in change
to avoid penalizing teams who played fairly and spent up to the cap in
previous years (whose salary structure and personnel would not fair well
with an 18%-22% cap reduction), shared control of money taken off the
top (why shouldn't the players have a voice at the table as to where
these dollars to help the game are spent), combined with the piggishness
of the 18 game schedule.

These guys are crying wolf (not showing their books or considering the
capital appreciation of their investments as part of their enhanced
value), insisting on increasing their revenue, limiting the monies
available for players' salaries and benefits.

Who needs a paint brush for that.

If the courts or arbiters do not stop their plans (e.g., there is no way
tagging should be allowed before a new CBA establishes there will be
tags and the fact that in an uncapped year not one single team tried to
buy a championship with massive one year deals to players stinks of
obvious collusion), I fear we may see the NHLization of the sport some
of us have grown to love.

H

Johnny Morongo

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Feb 17, 2011, 1:40:06 PM2/17/11
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Actually, I'm pulling for an all-out lockout/strike that shuts down
the entire season. I've gotta get a life and the Jets/NFL ain't it.

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Harlan Lachman

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Feb 18, 2011, 7:16:46 PM2/18/11
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> H, as a season ticket-holder I find it funny how many fans are so
> quick to blame the players for high prices especially when 20% of the
> games I pay for are pre-season. I am very impressed with the union's
> rep. i am waiting for them to start hammering the NFL by reminding
> everyone it is a non-profit organization.
>
> Your post hit many key points.
>
> I hope you are getting through the cold.

Thanks John,

Actually, had to pick thru the ice today since it was 45° today and
yesterday and is forecast to get real cold real soon. Roads and
driveways will be black ice tomorrow as I take my daughter to Brazil to
see her birth country.

Although this fat boy hates heat and humidity, the 75°-85° temperatures
may be doable.

harlan

Harlan Lachman

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Feb 18, 2011, 7:17:37 PM2/18/11
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In article
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Johnny Morongo <j.mir...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:

Sick humor Johnny. True! But very sick.

If I were younger, I would say, "Droll, very droll!"

Harlan

papa.carl44

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Feb 19, 2011, 4:11:52 PM2/19/11
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"Johnny Morongo" <j.mir...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote in message
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Johnny, I have to admit, the thought has crossed my mind.


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