it does make you wonder how in charge Rex really is.
because I have to agree with many Jets fand that Schotty Jr is a problem.
the Pats D has had us Pats fans cringing all season and the Jets had 7 3 and
outs against it.
conditional 7th. Jets will likely get nothing. nuttin' for nuttin.
--
I agree with that assessment. Both tight ends for the Texans have been
highly involved in that offense. Mason runs a similar route which will allow
the Texans to keep one of the TE's home to guard against the inevitable
blitzes the Ravens will throw at the Houston QB.
--
~Drew
"Talk is cheap ...lets just play"
Papa... You should know better than to argue with Mrs. Schottenheimer.
Really how do you know what is going on?
Did it ever occur to you that Ryan was pissed about what Mason said &
if the reports are accurate about the supposed mutiny-- which by the
way we don't know-- then this is consistent on how he deals with
unhappy players. By the way if the reports are accurate Houston called
NY.
I am cracking up laughing that everyone is aghast that the jets traded
a 37 year old receiver who bitched publicly, replaced him witha young
faster player & then got a 7th rounder --maybe better?-- for a FA we
picked up ff the scrap heap.
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Really???? I was laughing aghast that they Jets let Edwards and Cotchery go
and replaced him with a 37 year old receiver. After all, Edwards wasn't a
team player so Rex brought in a guy he knew he could trust.
It is amusing.
Schott also made Tuna trade Keyshawn. And made Gruden cut Keyshawn in the middle of the season at tremendous cap hit cost.
Mason is Keyshawn with no talent.
We should all thank Schott for using his great influence and power to get a 7th round pick for him.
Was Schott calling their plays through his iPhone?
Clearly, Schott is a meglomaniac whose power knows no bounds. :-)
> They made no
> effort to resign Edwards. Maybe because as he reported he was doing
> things in the locker room that crossed Rex' line.
Now don't go giving Rex responsibility for what happens on this team. Just consider what madness that idea could lead us to.
I can't see it being close. The FB they have, with Casey hurt, can't
do anything but block & he is no Vontae Leach. I know now why teh
Lions kept hoping for a stud at WR as Andre Johnson is a game changer.
Wade runs a soft 3-4 which should help Flacco and one corner is very
weak so if they provide safety help they open up the middle. Mario's
replacement is a rookie (Reed) with a high work rate & looks to have
promise but gets sucked in so Rice should pop a few long ones to the
outside.
--
I'm sure you are right and being home doesn't hurt at all. I'd be surprised
if the Ravens didn't attempt to re-establish their ground game this week.
I did tape and watch the Texans - Raiders game from NFL Replay and really
the only things that impressed me about Houston was, TE Walker, man what a
remarkable set of soft hands on him. And of course Foster, the big plays
from him, however, came mostly off broken Raiders coverage of him slipping
out of the backfield. A little more heads up on D and that game wouldn't
have been as close as it was for the Raiders.
Jets have a difficult schedule ahead. If they can "win" back their
confidence things will look a lot better come playoff time. Good luck
towards that end.
--
~Drew
>>> Maybe Schott has all this power and maybe I will be doing shampoo
>>> commercials in the near future. That is Johnny's signal to jump in.
>>
>> Thanks for the invite, bro. Been lurkin' most of the year. I just
>> can't get interested enough want to comment, but you be the closest to
>> the scene of the crime, so I'll ask, what do you hear down there?
>>
>> Am I the only one here who thinks Woody appears to be just a little
>> pink? My new number 1 conspiracy theory: one of the Schitts is doing
>> him. I think Burf might have the pictures.
>
> Did you just call Woody a Commie? Papa told me the other day he
> doesn't like being called a Commie& here you go taking a schott at
> the heir to the band aid fortune.
>
Ha! Somebody done got a humor lobotomy. Actually laughed at this. But
not the kind of pink I was thinking of, ya dumb Mick.
>
> What do I hear down here? About the Texans& Mason I assume? They say
> the Texans called the Jets as they have nothing after Andre& they
> --
> I'm sure you are right and being home doesn't hurt at all. I'd be surprised
> if the Ravens didn't attempt to re-establish their ground game this week.
>
> I did tape and watch the Texans - Raiders game from NFL Replay and really
> the only things that impressed me about Houston was, TE Walker, man what a
> remarkable set of soft hands on him. And of course Foster, the big plays
> from him, however, came mostly off broken Raiders coverage of him slipping
> out of the backfield. A little more heads up on D and that game wouldn't
> have been as close as it was for the Raiders.
>
> Jets have a difficult schedule ahead. If they can "win" back their
> confidence things will look a lot better come playoff time. Good luck
> towards that end.
> --
No playoff team here, so don't look for us there. We be good to get to
8-8. But it'll be just what the FO deserves. T brought Schitt in - and
they need to leave together. Short of that, we'll continue to flounder.
Rex gets a pass for one more year after this one, but only if Woody
dumps both of them. Short of that, it'll be more of the SOJ for maybe
years to come.
Wanna trade GMs?
So to me the crucial question that needs the definitive answer with
the Jets is whether Shottenheimer's game plans and play calling are
deficient, or whether execution is deficient, especially by the QB.
A second question that needs a definitive answer is: In the case of
deficient game plans is the cause a dull imagination or the
limitations of the QB?
Fans are not at the practices. Let's face it - practices are what
the coaches base their decisions on. Look at the Denver fans calling
for Tebow and they know damn well he was third on the depth chart.
How do they figure he got to be third? Because he practiced like shit
and the coaches see that and there is no way they can vault him up to
starter or even ahead of Quinn. And that's telling you how bad Tebow
is.
Does anybody believe that Sanchez is lighting up the vertical game
during practice week in and week out? If you were the OC and saw all
those bad passes what kind of game plan would you draw up? The
problem is classic: He owes a lot of his success to the running game
which now has started to sputter. He's just being exposed as a QB
that cannot carry the team. Maybe that's not so bad. How many QBs
can carry a team? Ask Jay Cutler or Sam Bradford. It's just asking
for too much. I think the biggest problem could be personnel and that
includes Sanchez and the OL. How can any Jets fan expect a kid with
no vertical game to carry that offense when they've lost their G&P
identity?
Now they've tried to reestablish the G&P and it did not work out too
well. One week does not make a reclamation project, but it has to be
affecting Shottenheimer's game plans, right? I don't see how he can
create something out of thin air that will mask a major flaw. The
running game is the heart and soul of that offense. That has to be
fixed or I don't see how an OC can be blamed for much.
> faster player& then got a 7th rounder --maybe better?-- for a FA we
> picked up ff the scrap heap.
Mrs Lil' Schitt, get off yer knees and out from behind Mr T's desk.
Boy, this was just a brilliant move and totally demonstrates the boy
wonders' intellectual capacity and total football accumen.
It may have been a good move, as many addition by subtraction deals turn
out to be, but it certainly was beyond the demonstrated range of either
of their ability to think ahead or outside the box.
Instead, it smacks of the kind of "shoe box" offensive playbook we've
seen that Schitt is so fond of. IOW, it's a reach, even if perhaps a
fortuitous one.
Must say though, Mason over Cotch NEVER made sense to me. And I can
only pin that one on Tranny. You know, I'd like to hear what Cotch, one
of my all time favorite Jets, really thinks of his former OC.
Drew, Owen Daniels is teh TE. He has bounced back from injuries. I
honestly can't remember him dropping a ball that hit his hands.
>And of course Foster, the big plays
> from him, however, came mostly off broken Raiders coverage of him slipping
> out of the backfield. A little more heads up on D and that game wouldn't
> have been as close as it was for the Raiders.
>
> Jets have a difficult schedule ahead. If they can "win" back their
> confidence things will look a lot better come playoff time. Good luck
> towards that end.
> --
> ~Drew
The Jets obviously have to win Monday or it is over if they do that
you keep hoping.
ummm... I'll have to get back to you on that John. In fact, have your people
call my people.
--
~Drew
"Talk is cheap ...lets just play"
-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
--
I realize that John, however, Walker ran a 20 - 30 yard post pattern and
fingertip caught a bullet while jumping above his defenders fully extended.
Having watched Todd Heap do that for so many years I was struck by the ease
and grace displayed in Walker's doing so. He made several other critical
grabs on that drive before Schaub eventually threw the game ending pick in
the endzone.
--
~Drew
> If they win a couple in a row, this all means nothing.
>
Even if I give you the Fish game, what makes you think that they will
roll up a second against the 4-1 Chargers, let alone Buffalo (there),
and another round of Patty cake. Sorry, but those couple in a row seem
like pie in the sky to me. Seems more like a second three game losing
streak might be in the offing, with nary a couple of wins in a row in
sight.
>
> Drew, Owen Daniels is teh TE. He has bounced back from injuries. I
> honestly can't remember him dropping a ball that hit his hands.
>
> --
> I realize that John, however, Walker ran a 20 - 30 yard post pattern and
> fingertip caught a bullet while jumping above his defenders fully extended.
> Having watched Todd Heap do that for so many years I was struck by the ease
> and grace displayed in Walker's doing so. He made several other critical
> grabs on that drive before Schaub eventually threw the game ending pick in
> the endzone.
> And of course Foster, the big plays
> from him, however, came mostly off broken Raiders coverage of him
> slipping out of the backfield. A little more heads up on D and that
game wouldn't
> have been as close as it was for the Raiders.
>
> Jets have a difficult schedule ahead. If they can "win" back their
> confidence things will look a lot better come playoff time. Good luck
> towards that end.
> --
> ~Drew
The Jets obviously have to win Monday or it is over if they do that
you keep hoping.
_________________________________________________________________________
Forget Monday, even if they handle the Fins, which Saint Mary's School
for the Blind might even be able to do, please look at the string of 4-1
teams coming behind them. Rex the Loud better do some fast talkin'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Didn’t say they would, I said IF, and a couple means 2.
-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
> So to me the crucial question that needs the definitive answer with
> the Jets is whether Shottenheimer's game plans and play calling are
> deficient, or whether execution is deficient, especially by the QB.
You can't tell about the QB because there are so many other problems.
I said "...a second three game losing streak..." I'm asking what TWO
consecutive games do you see coming up that you feel confident of
winning? Look at the schedule. Seems to me that it will be very hard
to find even one 2 game winning streak, given the perceived low morale
of the team, the Schitt scheme, the porous D and a patchwork OL.
I suggest that a reality check is in line for lots of folks here.
Jets 7-9
3rd place
Miami 1-15: Andrew Luck
> On Oct 12, 12:06�am, "R�vNsf�n �" <noemai...@nospam4me.org> wrote:
>> "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:j72v88$ccb$1...@dont-email.me...
>> :http://www.sbnation.com/2011/10/11/2484763/derrick-mason-traded-texan
>> :...
>> :
>> :
>> : JK Sinrod
>> :www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>>
>> --
>> Rex was well aware of Mason's disruptive actions within the Ravens
>> locker room the final season Rex was with the Ravens. Makes me think
>> that much l
> ike
>> the JETS at the time, the Texans feel they can use him more for his
>> information on the Ravens than his contributions in replacing
>> Johnson.
>>
>> Any idea yet on the draft round that was traded to the JETS?
>>
>> --
>> � � �~Drew
>>
>> � � � � � �"Talk is cheap ...lets just go play"
>> � � � � � � Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts
>
> conditional 7th. Jets will likely get nothing. nuttin' for nuttin.
>
>
>
>
What do a Rubik's cube and a penis have in common?
The longer you play with it, the harder it gets! LOL 8-))
>You know, I'd like to hear what Cotch, one
>of my all time favorite Jets, really thinks of his former OC.
Except he is too classy to open his mouth about it.
--
graybeard
You're probably right, Gray. But the fact that he was anxious to get
outta Dodge says a lot right there, IMHO.
True, dat.
--
graybeard
That Rex & Tannebaum let him go was stupid. Granted he hasn't played
much with the Steelers but having 2 WR's that know the offense has to
have some value.
As for your opinion............
:)
He must have thought he would catch a bunch of balls in the last year
of his contract or overestimated his value because getting cut cost
him $1MM.