Sanchez and Schott: How we'll know who to blame this year.
Grinch
Sanchez'z completion pct last year was 54.8%, round it to 55% (after 53.8% the year before). This team is supposed to be "win now -- the Super Bowl!" The league average completion pct is 61%. And the top-third of teams we're supposed to be competing with to "win now" average 66%.
Here's how *big* a handicap a 55% completion pct is in this competition: For every 5 passes Sanchez completes, the competition completes 6. Compared to Sanchez, over the season, that's like the competition getting an extra *3 games* worth of completed passes for free.
That's sending the offense through a season with one foot stuck in a bucket.
And it is worse than that. Because with the Kid being that wild, the coaches have to compromise the offense by restricting its options to protect him -- just as players on opposing teams last year openly said the Jets coaches do.
This year, there is no excuse. He's not a rookie, he's not inexperienced, he's had two full years of getting the greatest support and coddling and nurturing that I've ever seen any QB receive.
It's time for both Sanchez *and* the front office (Tannenbaum, Woody) to stand up and say this guy is a #5 pick getting paid #5 money -- and it's time he started to deliver #5 pick value.
It's not so difficult and rare for a rookie to complete 60% right from the start. Here's a list of some rookies and second-year players of the last few seasons:
Josh Freeman 61%, Colt McCoy 61%, Sam Bradford 60%, Joe Flacco 63% and 60%, Chad Henne 61%, Trent Edwards 65%, Matt Ryan 61%, Jay Cutler 64%, Vince Young 63%, Charlie Fry 64%, Carson Palmer 68% and 61%, Big Ben 66% and 63%, Chris Sims 61%, Bryon Leftwich 61%, Mark Bulger 63% and 65% ... I'll stop the here.
Here is the full list of OBs who've finishes below Sanchez in completion % during his two years: Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen, JaMarcus Russell. Mark Stafford. That is all.
And please don't anyone put Sanchez's completion % on Schott. When they find Jimmy Hoffa's body under where the old stadium was, you can put that on Schott -- but not this.
Chad with half an arm, and nowhere near the supporting talent there is on the team today, was Comeback Player of the Year and left NY with the #1 completion percentage all time, with Schott running the O. Favre, who for all his great attributes was never a particularly high comp % guy, and with a crippled arm for the last third of the season, hit 66% with Schott running the O. In between them, Clemens hit 52% -- and he just got cut by the Skins.
A Clemens-like completion pct ranked 29th two years in a row is **on the QB** -- there is no way around it. It is up to Sanchez to pull his foot out of that bucket.
AND HE KNOWS IT. If you've followed his offseason, he's many times made clear the coaches have given him this message and he accepts it. He knows it. He's said he will! See below. So it is time for him to deliver on his word. Period.
So here's the bottom line:
(1) IF Sanchez as a third-year #5 pick has another year of completion percentage in the 50s, the problems the offense will *inevitably* have will be on him, period.
Oh, people will be able to whine all they want about Schott's crappy O (and how Rex mysteriously, inexplicably, has no influence over it).
But the bottom line will be that you could bring back Bill Walsh, Don Coryell, Sid Gillman and Paul Brown all working together -- and with a QB throwing 20% more clangers than the other team, giving away *three games* worth of pass completions for nothing, they couldn't get the offense's foot out of the bucket either.
It'll be Sanchez's fault. Period.
(2) IF Sanchez at least partially delivers on his brave words below, and gets up at least to league average, over 60%, then there will be no reason for the Jets offense not to be fully competitive with anyone.
Then if the offense still backfires all you Schott haters can rip him to your heart's content.
Tear him as many new ones as you want. It'll be Schott's fault. Period.
THAT's how we'll know which one to blame. Period.
Of course there is a third possibility we can hope for: Sanchez delivers as he says he will, gets the offense's foot out of the bucket, Schott is freed to for the first time run the O he really wants, delivers, and the Jets Win! the Jets Win!
That is, the Sanchez doubters and Schott haters are *both* proved wrong -- and in the end there is **nobody to blame**!
Dare we dream?
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Sanchez interviewed by Serby
Q: How much better do you have to play for this team to win a Super Bowl?
A: ... My completion percentage should be higher, I think ... getting completions early ... It's about getting off to a good start. You look at all the guys that throw 70-plus percent -- [Drew] Brees, [Peyton] Manning, [Tom] Brady -- and they start off the game 6-for-7. They don't start off 2-for-8, and then have to play catchup the whole game. So I think that's been something I've identified just in watching film this offseason.
Q: Are we talking 60 percent completion percentage?
A: Oh, higher than that.
Q: 65%?
A: Got to be. You shoot for at least 70% a year. That's like where you're going for, but your first couple of years (chuckle) it's a harder to do that than just saying it.
Q: Seventy is Joe Montana-esque.
A: That's what we need to win.
Q: So you think that's a realistic goal for you, 70 percent?
A: Absolutely.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/serby_sunday_with_mark_sanchez_dOPxsUUZ49zGh3nZRBZk2H
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Post:
The biggest thing Sanchez has talked about is raising his completion percentage from 54.8 last year. Schottenheimer and Sanchez spent a day last week watching every incompletion he threw last year. Schottenheimer said it's not a matter of Sanchez getting more accurate, just making better decisions.
"That's a huge thing we want to work on," Schottenheimer said. "With his ability and his arm talent and his accuracy, there's no reason in the world that he should be a 54-percent passer. A lot of it is the youth of the first two years, him feeling windows or I can make that throw and realizing that NFL football is different than college football. He should have huge jumps this year. That's what we hope and expect."
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/jets_set_to_take_to_the_air_djMnqStzdkKZjhhXounRMM
Johnny Morongo
You know Grinchkin, there's no refuting your point about Sanchez's
completion percentages, and I think we all know it. There's also no
disputing the "out of rhythm," shoe-box play calling that Schott is
prone to, for everyone but you that is. Both of them have to do much
better. Say that, and I won't have to come East and kill you, once and
for all.
Harlan Lachman
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>,
> So here's the bottom line:
>
> (1) IF Sanchez as a third-year #5 pick has another year of completion
> percentage in the 50s, the problems the offense will *inevitably* have will
> be on him, period.
>
> Oh, people will be able to whine all they want about Schott's crappy O (and
> how Rex mysteriously, inexplicably, has no influence over it).
>
> But the bottom line will be that you could bring back Bill Walsh, Don
> Coryell, Sid Gillman and Paul Brown all working together -- and with a QB
> throwing 20% more clangers than the other team, giving away *three games*
> worth of pass completions for nothing, they couldn't get the offense's foot
> out of the bucket either.
>
> It'll be Sanchez's fault. Period.
>
> (2) IF Sanchez at least partially delivers on his brave words below, and gets
> up at least to league average, over 60%, then there will be no reason for the
> Jets offense not to be fully competitive with anyone.
>
> Then if the offense still backfires all you Schott haters can rip him to your
> heart's content.
>
> Tear him as many new ones as you want. It'll be Schott's fault. Period.
>
> THAT's how we'll know which one to blame. Period.
Sanchez has only had one OC in his tenure with this team. Shott had also
been criticized with his use of other QB.
Sanchez may well stink. If his completion percentage in the regular
season is at 55% or thereabouts, he will likely get a chance to work
with someone else (here or elsewhere). Then, and only then, will we know
who is to blame.
And, it could be both.
harlan
JKConey
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It's simple.
Sanchez'z completion pct last year was 54.8%, round it to 55% (after 53.8%
the year before). This team is supposed to be "win now -- the Super Bowl!"
The league average completion pct is 61%. And the top-third of teams we're
supposed to be competing with to "win now" average 66%.
Here's how *big* a handicap a 55% completion pct is in this competition: For
every 5 passes Sanchez completes, the competition completes 6. Compared to
Sanchez, over the season, that's like the competition getting an extra *3
games* worth of completed passes for free.
That's sending the offense through a season with one foot stuck in a bucket.
And it is worse than that. Because with the Kid being that wild, the coaches
have to compromise the offense by restricting its options to protect him --
just as players on opposing teams last year openly said the Jets coaches do.
Excellent report, but I think we all know this. Right now he stinks.
-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
Papa Carl
"Grinch" <oldn...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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level to make this team a real contender. You could even say games were
lost because of his play. BUT...anyone who has any level of football
background, knows offenses will see serous issues with the design of the
scheme....as for your other references...how did all those high percentages
work out before when Schott was the OC? When Penny was playing well,
completing passes, and when Favre was...did it win games? Or did the design
of the offense suck so much that even if the QB had a decent to excellent
completion percentage the team still lost and lost because of incredibly
dumb decisions in play calling in critical situations and especially the Red
Zone. I agree with you...Sanchez is a huge liability, but I also have spent
most of my life around the game and I'm convinced Schott is one of many who
got a break because of who he was and who he "knows." And that is a theme
throughout the game...look how many times good old Richie K got recycled and
he was always pathetic.