when things about the CBC show up in the sports pages it's usually from the
owners
and they seemed very determined.
the players union seems very disorganized in comparison.
everybody is kind of ignoring it but after this season ends it's going to
get ugly.
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Ray, the players will not strike; NFL players careers are too short to
gamble with.
The owners with their slave mentality and their egos will lock the
players out.
The owners can get a rookie cap and more games. But I think they will be
pigs.
No way does the NFL go to guaranteed contracts for everyone.
h
> The owners can get a rookie cap and more games. But I think they will be
> pigs.
News flash, numbnuts: The PLAYERS want a rookie cap.
Oh, and you forgot to put "capitalist" before "pigs" like a good commie.
Just once, I wish a stupid, moronic conservative respondent understood
the difference between communism and socialism.
And, in all cultures, there are individuals who believe they deserve
more than anyone else or are just so ignorant and greedy they demand
more than others being oblivious to the issue.
Read a few books, get some help, from your post you will need it, and
then we can debate whether unregulated capitalistic monopolies are
better at meeting society's needs than socialistic monopolies,
especially when piggies are loose.
harlan
>
> And, in all cultures, there are individuals who believe they deserve
> more than anyone else or are just so ignorant and greedy they demand
> more than others being oblivious to the issue.
Compared to the others that demand they deserve more from the more
productive????
Are they so ignorant and non-greedy that they think that the rewards
granted to the over achievers should be theirs???
Why should the labor of a producer become the income of a non-
producer???
mr dude (hates Socialists and Commies!!)
I didn't know you were a socialist, dude.
A socialist believes that equality should be mandated by the
government.
I do not ascribe to this perverted view.
mr dude (high on crack and fucking an Amish midget)
The fact that you ignored the point that you were entirely wrong about
which side the wants the rookie cap has been noted.
>
> The fact that you ignored the point that you were entirely wrong about
> which side the wants the rookie cap has been noted.
The "greedy" veteran players want the rookie cap.
mr dude
>
> The "greedy" veteran players want the rookie cap.
>
> mr dude
Which begs the point. How dare these greedy producers not let as yet
unproven non-producers get their fair share????
We need to level the playing field so that forced equality and shared
results occur!!!
All football games need to end in a tie!!!!
mr dude (and yes this is sarcasm)
From what I understand, they want the rookie cap as a negotiating tactic.
>
> From what I understand, they want the rookie cap as a negotiating tactic.
Your point is moot!
In the real world the productive deserve more than the unproven
productive.
mr dude (Libertarian - not to be confused with Liberals who love to
suck cock and steal the productive's income and give it to the non
deserving)
Yeah, um, aside from that... a rookie cap is stupid. And doesn't
achieve what its proponents think it would achieve. A guaranteed money
cap, on the other hand, would do a much better job. Better yet, the
fairest (if fairness is an issue...) strategy would be to eliminate the
draft altogether and allow all incoming rookies to be free agents.
This is one of the NFLPA proposals:
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/7/1/1547574/rookie-salary-cap-nfl-nflpa-proven-performance-plan
NFLPA's Proven Performance Plan Would Shorten Rookie Contracts,
Distribute Savings
Jul 01 2:55p by Joel Thorman
Earlier this week NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell called the
implementation of a rookie salary cap a "critical" part of the CBA
negotiations with the NFLPA.
From the NFLPA perspective, they would argue that it's the team's
decision to pay this money -- not the players. They would also point out
that first round picks are guaranteed an average of $11 million. The
other picks are hardly that lucrative. Second round picks are guaranteed
an average of $2 million and all other picks are guaranteed a max of
$668,000.
It seems as if both sides are willing to change the current system which
currently pays the top 12 picks an disproportional amount of guaranteed
money and often traps late round rookies into contracts which they
outperform.
The NFLPA's answer is the Proven Performance Plan.
In a nutshell, it would shorten the life of rookie contracts and create
savings for underpaid players as well as retired players.
Here's how it would work:
First, it entails shortening rookie contracts to a max of three years.
This takes care of the problem that clubs often face of paying a player
picked high in the draft a lot of money when he ultimately ends up as a
bust. It would also allow players who have outperformed their contracts
to negotiate market friendly deals sooner.
Second, the NFLPA says this would save clubs approximately $200 million.
$150 million of this would go to a Proven Performance Fund which would
award rookies and veterans who signed contracts that are below what
their market value is. The NFLPA also proposes the remaining $50 million
in savings be devoted to retired players with NFL owners matching that
each year to create an extra $100 million per year for retired players.
Commissioner Goodell has previously said that if rookie contracts are
leveled out, the savings could then go to veteran players. However, the
NFLPA would point to the over $400 million in unused cap space as
evidence that the owners won't necessarily use any savings on the
veteran players.
The NFLPA's plan is similar to the performance-based pay system that was
in place before the salary cap went away. The difference is that the
total money would be more (last year the performance based-pay system
was just over $100 million) and a portion of it would go to retired players.
It's an interesting plan and, even though the league has rejected it,
it's a good start for both sides because, at the very least, it's a
proposal, which means they're talking. The only way a new CBA will get
done is if both sides continue to talk.
Right. It looks like a compromise.
I don't think they'll ever get the owners to agree to 3 years, btw.
I think both wan't some sort of rookie cap. but after that they disagree on
the cap issues.
the owners also want a lower cap
the players aren't looking very organized and I see the owners getting most
of what they want.
it will take the NFLPA a while to recover from the disaster that Gene Upshaw
was.
Both sides want the cap. The agents do not. If the revenues must be
spent on players, the less spent on rookie washouts, the more for vets.
The owners would prefer to pay for value.
Stop your both right! Certs is a breath mint and a candy mint.
h