Re: Randy Moss
Michael
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> Here you go. Randy Moss as a Jet. I am OK with it if is priced right
> and he can still play.
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> http://tinyurl.com/3knh6sh
No
Ritchie
Noooooooo..........................!!
MZ
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> Here you go. Randy Moss as a Jet. I am OK with it if is priced right
> and he can still play.
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> http://tinyurl.com/3knh6sh
If he's cheap why not. Depends which Moss shows up to play. If it's
the good Moss, the Jets offense becomes much more difficult to
defend. If it's the bad Moss, cut him. I think Rex might be a good
enough coach to get the good Moss. What's the problem?
Michael
the moss that shows up is not the worry. the moss that shows his true
colors later on is what i'd like to avoid. remember this disgusting
outburst ???
""He was waving his arms around and was very loud saying 'I wouldn't
feed this *bleep* to my dogs," Tinucci said, "and who ordered this
crap."
Tinucci said Moss' tirade continued as he walked back to his locker.
He says Moss added, "I used to have to eat *bleep* like this but now I
have money."
Tinucci was stunned. "He was waving his arms all around, and at first
I thought he was kidding. It was amazing how quiet the room got. It
was just a weird situation."
Former Vikings center Matt Birk first recommended Tinucci's food to
the team, paving the way for his first visit to Winter Park several
years ago. He says the Moss incident didn't leave him with any hard
feelings.
"He didn't even try the food to know if he would feed it to his dogs
or not," Tinucci remarked."
MZ
This is why I said I think Rex's atmosphere might be conducive to
getting the good Moss to show up. The Vikings are a joke all the way
from the owner, to management, to the coaching staff. The Jets don't
have this problem.
Also, Moss was heartbroken and sulking because he couldn't snuggle
with Brady anymore. He's had time to get over it.
From 2007-2009, Moss was one of the best leaders in that Pats locker
room. All the players loved him. Predictably, when things started
not going his way, he threw a fit. If Tannenbaum could work the
contract to allow the team to cut him in that case, then it would be a
good signing IMO. And I think the environment that Rex has created in
the Jets locker room can keep him focused and motivated.
Michael
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i dunno... may be.... moss appears to be the sort of guy that is bound
to implode the moment he feels he has an inch of space and an
audience. he seems compulsive and not the kind of guy that ever
changes. only acts like a good guy until he senses his chance to be
himself. i did not like the santonio deal, and he turned out to be a
value and he did not screw up. i also did not care for the jason
taylor deal, and I wound up liking him. he gave all he had to give on
the field and he is a class individual. asside from personality
issues, would the jets really need moss if they retain santonio and
edwards too ???
MZ
I think (good) Moss adds something unique just because he opens up the
deep field which would open things up considerably for a guy like
Cotchery underneath. They could definitely benefit from him, ASSUMING
Sanchez can get his timing down with him and Schott would know how to
use him correctly. These are maybe not safe assumptions.
But you're right, they've already got 3 good WR and a receiving TE, so
it's hard to envision this position being an immediate need. But
aside from adding a 2nd TE, what other significant improvements could
be made to the offense right now? Maybe they draft a receiver with an
eye towards the future instead. In that case, probably no room for
Moss.
Michael
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not sure what they can or need to do to make the offense better... of
course better play calling, but as far as on field man-power two
things come to mind... will ducasse shape up at RT ??? will mcnight
contribute ??? those are two big questions. if ducasse does not learn
the position quickly, there could be problems. if mcknight cant help,
they could have problems. LT is old and Green has not convinced any
of us yet. also... i could be wrong, but i dont think sanchez will
change much. hot and cold schoolyard guy... it would help the jets
offense a lot if he got cleaner and more accurate. also agree that
another TE would be a huge help. a nice beefy one with leverage.
John C TX
is Mayonnaise, "he's got no place else to go."
Papa Carl
"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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To me..Rex seems to have the same skill at dealing with the bad boys that
Tuna has / had. Moss would be a huge plus to the passing attack which would
open up the running game. With the way the game is played now, it is all
about getting a big threat down field.....if Rex can handle him...use him,
and keep the others....it's a passing game all the way and if the OC can't
find a way to use talent...oh well.
javaman91
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> graybeard
and another +999
JM
Harlan Lachman
"Papa Carl" <papa...@verizon.net> wrote:
I do not like the idea of signing an older, declining one trick pony.
While it makes me gag to think of replacing Cro with another comparably
priced FA (sacrificing a #2 pick for a so so year), at least signing a
young, better CB could be cost justified.
Signing old guys makes no sense for a youngish team. Get better and
position one's team for the future. That sounds like a prescription for
success.
h
MZ
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Jets made it to the AFCCG. Yes they should build for the future, but
they also should make every attempt to win now. Also, he'd be a good
mentor for the younger guys, which should theoretically help for the
future. At least that's what the young guys on the Pats said about
him.
HVAC
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> Jets made it to the AFCCG. Yes they should build for the future, but
> they also should make every attempt to win now. Also, he'd be a good
> mentor for the younger guys
What's he going to mentor them about?
Bitching about the quality of food in the chow line?
--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
Papa Carl
"Harlan Lachman" <har...@eeivt.com> wrote in message
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I normally would agree with you...but in the game today young players will
not develop on your team...they will wind up somewhere else. It's a year to
year deal in many cases I think. Moss can still run and catch...IF they can
get him cheap.
Tutor
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> Here you go. Randy Moss as a Jet. I am OK with it if is priced right
> and he can still play.
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> http://tinyurl.com/3knh6sh
Frankly, I think all this is mostly intended to be a loud message to
Santonio Holmes.
MZ
> On 4/13/2011 12:05 AM, MZ wrote:
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> > Jets made it to the AFCCG. Yes they should build for the future, but
> > they also should make every attempt to win now. Also, he'd be a good
> > mentor for the younger guys
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> What's he going to mentor them about?
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> Bitching about the quality of food in the chow line?
I dunno. Whatever the guys on the Pats said he mentored them about.
He was unanimously loved in that locker room.
Michael
> > not develop on your team...they will wind up somewhere else. It's a year to
> > year deal in many cases I think. Moss can still run and catch...IF they can
> > get him cheap.
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> 1. reasonable base salary
> 2. no bonus
> 3. incentives based on some mix of individual performance & team
> performance
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> #3 is important because he could provide an invaluable service with 3
> catches a game and if he is going to get paid he is less likely to be
> stupid.
also worth thinking about... a wr that specializes in going deep would
be a very good thing for a schoolyard qb that is at his best
improvising and extending plays. I don’t think it will happen
though. Wanna know why ??? I have hard facts for you ;-) My gut
tells me that moss is not rex’s cup of tea or woody j’s cup of tea.
Papa Carl
"Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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They look like espresso guys to me, not wussy tea drinkers.
Michael
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I'd say Woody J is a wine connoisseur and Rex likes beer, but neither
to excess.