Kris Jenkins implies Rex has No say or control about Schitty
Tutor
runs deeper than Rex.
He said he would try to say things, without saying them, and hopefully
people could put two and two together... The next major things out of
his mouth were...
- "We all know who Schotty's daddy is.... that has a little to do with
it"
Followed by:
- "The other thing that has a little to do with it... Buddy system...
There may be a certain front office person, general manager, coach who
has a certain liking for him." But then he circled back and pretty
clearly said it's a front office/GM/mgmt type person, because he said
the same person responsible for keeping Sal Alosi around, when players
were going to mgmt/coaches about how he was no good, is probably the
same person responsible for keeping Schotty.
- "Schotty has never been tested."
You can listen for yourself starting around 28:48:
Really get the vibe, from what he's saying, this goes above Rex, for
sure.
Papa Carl
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So Schott makes Tanny feel like a big man....they are buddies...but Woody
still has to let this happen...how long before the embarrassment gets to
Woody?
Tutor
> "Tutor" <dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Kris Jenkins definitely implied the Schotty issue goes "above" and/or
> > runs deeper than Rex.
>
> > He said he would try to say things, without saying them, and hopefully
> > people could put two and two together... The next major things out of
> > his mouth were...
>
> > - "We all know who Schotty's daddy is.... that has a little to do with
> > it"
>
> > Followed by:
>
> > - "The other thing that has a little to do with it... Buddy system...
> > There may be a certain front office person, general manager, coach who
> > has a certain liking for him." But then he circled back and pretty
> > clearly said it's a front office/GM/mgmt type person, because he said
> > the same person responsible for keeping Sal Alosi around, when players
> > were going to mgmt/coaches about how he was no good, is probably the
> > same person responsible for keeping Schotty.
>
> > - "Schotty has never been tested."
>
> > You can listen for yourself starting around 28:48:
>
> > Really get the vibe, from what he's saying, this goes above Rex, for
> > sure.
>
> So Schott makes Tanny feel like a big man....they are buddies...but Woody
> still has to let this happen...how long before the embarrassment gets to
>
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makes no sense. Unless Schitty, Sr. has pics of Woody humping farm
animals.
Percy Flage
> On Oct 8, 11:56 am, "Papa Carl"<papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Tutor"<dcat4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> news:da6ff987-5a54-4976...@c20g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
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>>> Kris Jenkins definitely implied the Schotty issue goes "above" and/or
>>> runs deeper than Rex.
>>
>>> He said he would try to say things, without saying them, and hopefully
>>> people could put two and two together... The next major things out of
>>> his mouth were...
>>
>>> - "We all know who Schotty's daddy is.... that has a little to do with
>>> it"
>>
>>> Followed by:
>>
>>> - "The other thing that has a little to do with it... Buddy system...
>>> There may be a certain front office person, general manager, coach who
>>> has a certain liking for him." But then he circled back and pretty
>>> clearly said it's a front office/GM/mgmt type person, because he said
>>> the same person responsible for keeping Sal Alosi around, when players
>>> were going to mgmt/coaches about how he was no good, is probably the
>>> same person responsible for keeping Schotty.
>>
>>> - "Schotty has never been tested."
>>
>>> You can listen for yourself starting around 28:48:
>>
>>> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nyjetsdirect/2011/10/06/the-gang-green-s...
>>
>>> Really get the vibe, from what he's saying, this goes above Rex, for
>>> sure.
>>
>> So Schott makes Tanny feel like a big man....they are buddies...but Woody
>> still has to let this happen...how long before the embarrassment gets to
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> makes no sense. Unless Schitty, Sr. has pics of Woody humping farm
> animals.
--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."
Michael
> Kris Jenkins definitely implied the Schotty issue goes "above" and/or
> runs deeper than Rex.
>
> He said he would try to say things, without saying them, and hopefully
> people could put two and two together... The next major things out of
> his mouth were...
>
> - "We all know who Schotty's daddy is.... that has a little to do with
> it"
>
> Followed by:
>
> - "The other thing that has a little to do with it... Buddy system...
> There may be a certain front office person, general manager, coach who
> has a certain liking for him." But then he circled back and pretty
> clearly said it's a front office/GM/mgmt type person, because he said
> the same person responsible for keeping Sal Alosi around, when players
> were going to mgmt/coaches about how he was no good, is probably the
> same person responsible for keeping Schotty.
>
> - "Schotty has never been tested."
>
> You can listen for yourself starting around 28:48:
>
>
> Really get the vibe, from what he's saying, this goes above Rex, for
> sure.
i knew it was politics and i have been saying it for how long ???
MuahMan
OC and Sanchez is still the worst QB in the NFL? Who will you blame
then? George Bush? That's what Obama would do, maybe try that.
Percy Flage
By the time they get rid of Schitty, he may well be the worst QB in the
league.
Johnny Morongo
> Kris Jenkins definitely implied the Schotty issue goes "above" and/or
(Woody) being forced into an affirmative action hire (Herm) to the
stadium issue (a shared stadium - WTF was up with that decision?), Woody
has always made the wrong choices, Tannenbaum being the first in a long
line of mistakes that could only come from the guy at the top, the
selection and continued retention of Schitty only being the latest, if
now the most obvious.
Honestly, I don't think we'll ever win anything while he still controls
the team, and frankly, I've lost interest.
Percy Flage
So hiring Rex was a bad choice?
oldn...@mindspring.com
> Kris Jenkins definitely implied the Schotty issue goes "above" and/or
> runs deeper than Rex.
>
> He said he would try to say things, without saying them, and hopefully
> people could put two and two together... The next major things out of
> his mouth were...
>
> - "We all know who Schotty's daddy is.... that has a little to do with
> it"
I mean, it sure never kept him from getting fired by his own teams.
> Followed by:
>
> - "The other thing that has a little to do with it... Buddy system...
> There may be a certain front office person, general manager, coach who
> has a certain liking for him." But then he circled back and pretty
> clearly said it's a front office/GM/mgmt type person, because he said
> the same person responsible for keeping Sal Alosi around, when players
> were going to mgmt/coaches about how he was no good, is probably the
> same person responsible for keeping Schotty.
>
> - "Schotty has never been tested."
Apparently Jenkins isn't aware that Schott was on the team before he and Rex were.
The first year when Chad was Comeback Player of the Year, and the O carried the team to the playoffs against all predictions, wasn't a "test"? The Favre season wasn't a "test"?
> You can listen for yourself starting around 28:48:
>
> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nyjetsdirect/2011/10/06/the-gang-green-sports-show-w-former-ny-jet-kris-jenkins
>
> Really get the vibe, from what he's saying, this goes above Rex, for
> sure.
Host: "Third year, I think."
Jenkins: "Third? Fourth?"
Host: "You're right, it's his fourth..."
Both together: "OK, so here Sanchez is in his fourth year year as a starter..."
What a couple of expert analysts. :-)
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Papa Carl
Find out what Schott Jr. and Sr's politics are...Woody has had an
association with D. Cheney and had him as a speaker at some of his Foundtion
awards events....Woody paid for the last Republican convention....maybe the
Dad and Son connection is there?
Michael
> awards events....Woody paid for the last Republican convention....maybe the
> Dad and Son connection is there?
Papa... you yourself made references to how woody chooses people for
leadership positions in his other institutions. The politics is no
more complicated than what Jenkins called it. Buddy system. Daddy
Scott is his buddy.
Woody is still a good owner in general but with a blind spot. He.
Hired Rex and he is a fan and he spends. Woody also KS dynamic. With
all the recent Scotty stuff coming to the surface, even woody will get
the message. We won't have Scotty back and I dare say that all the
frustration will ensure we get a really good replacment next season.
John C TX
Now this is the first time I have a heard or read something from an
insider that thinks Schotty is protected & incompetent.
Here is the BS:
Jenkins thinks that putting Sanchez in front of a microphone will make
him more mature?
The Sal Alosi part???? He cost us two Super Bowls? I think we had
fewer injuries than most teams. Is Jenkins talking about his own
shortcomings in the gym?
He then says he isn't sure who is protecting Schotty.
Far from conclusive that someone is protecting him but it is obvious
Jenkins doesn't think much of Schotty as a coach.
Michael
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know a single person who has played and or coached the game who thinks
Schotty is a good OC. Now, that long list OFFICIALLY includes a
former Jets player. Circumstantial evidence also backs-up the story
that the Jets wide receivers are in revolt. There are things every
week that go wrong with the game... On one hand, some of those things
are different every week. One week we may have problems with pass
protection... One week we may have bad tackling by the defense... One
week we may have dropped passes... One week we may have a blown
coverage by one of the db's. Since this is football, we'll continue
to have different things go wrong every week. When we get those odd's
and end's popping up, a Schotty apologist or media commentator like
Michael Kay, who is queer to keep on the good side with the
organizations he wants access to, constantly point to those different
things that happen every week in defense of Schotty. The problem with
that is... Although we have those variety of things going wrong from
week to week, one thing has been common FROM WEEK TO WEEK and from
SEASON TO SEASON. That being, the same exact problems from Schotty
OVER AND OVER. Everyone is entitled to "go out to lunch" once in a
while, but Schotty has been "out to lunch" since he started.
1. Bone headed play calls at game critical moments
2. JV protection schemes
3. Shoe Box Offense. No rhyme or reason to building drives
4. Not being able to take advantage of the specific weakness of the
defense he is facing
5. Not being able to best use the talent he has available
6. Over all look to the offense that it has not been prepared
7. Over blown, complicated individual plays that are certainly no help
to a VERY inexperienced qb.
8. No understanding that 3r'd and 6 calls for at least a six yard play
to convert
9. COMPLETE inability to adjust in the game. Seven three and outs
after the defense got wise to your game is the most recent example
with about twenty other good examples behind that.
10. Stupid, moronic gizmo plays that develop behind the LOS and stall
offensive drives. Of course, they are called when things are actually
working, and cute maneuvers are not called for.
11. Inability to know how to call or design a play/drive to back-off a
defense that is making a wild b-line for the QB and exploiting a weak
link in the offensive line.
And let’s not forget... Before we say Rex may be in his way... Let me
please remind you. Rex has not been his only boss.
John C TX
You are correct at times I don't.
> so let me tell you that I don’t
> know a single person who has played and or coached the game who thinks
> Schotty is a good OC.
I do but I never played & I don't think he is good what I have written
over & over is that some blame belongs on players (dropped passes, bad
throws, etc.) & at times personnel.
You are right it is all his fault.
> And let’s not forget... Before we say Rex may be in his way... Let me
> please remind you. Rex has not been his only boss.
He has had good year's offensively when he had a good QB even with
little talent at times around that QB. You conveniently ignore that. I
still think it is the QB.
Michael
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are you referring to the QB (Favre) that put in his own offense after
being disgusted for the first four games or are you referring to the
other QB (Mr Check Down) who all of a sudden was able to throw the
ball past twenty yards when he had flipper on his helmet ???
John C TX
Favre put in his own offense? If my memory serves me right he showed
up in the final week of camp & the Jets changed the offense for him.
Then any time something worked it was Favre's offense & any mistake
was Schott's including the meltdown during the last 5 games. You &
many other ad hoc Shott haters blamed it on the OC. Then it turned
out that Favre was hurt the entire time.
As for Penington again you remember what you want. Chad was comeback
player of the year in 2006 the offense worked even with crap on the
line & not much in the backfield. Many bitched about the gimmicks.
Thanks for once again proving my contention that in the NFL it is
generally more about the QB than the OC.
Here are Chad's #'s for that year.
SEASON TEAM GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM RAT
2006 NYJ 16 313 485 64.5 3,352 6.91 17 71 16 6 82.6
Michael
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AND was not expected to return to any sort of form given the nature of
his injury and that he been through other serious injuries prior to
the last one. Schottenheimer had nothing to do with it.
Favre, as had had done in his first years at GB with limited talent
around him, made chicken salad with chicken shit. the shit part being
schottenheimer. i dont remember a single fan blaming shottenheimer for
favres late season problems. the fingers were pointed at him. and you
were right about one thing... a new offense was put in at his
insistance... how many pistol formations did you see with favre ???
how many double reverses ???
and by the way... your statistics are usless... in defending
schottenheimer, all you have left to make your case is statistics
taken out of context.
John C TX
No, he was comeback player of the year because he played well.
>
> Favre, as had had done in his first years at GB with limited talent
> around him, made chicken salad with chicken shit. ...
As always don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
He had two good RB's in Thomas Jones & Leon. He had a good TE in
Keller and a great FB in Richardson. They also added Faneca & Woody
to replace Clement & Clarke but your right he had nothing.
>
> read more »
Michael
a good job that year, but the offense was not good enough in totality
to take them anyplace in the post season.
if sanchez is the problem, why then does he play so well in the
playoffs ??? perhaps other people are involved in the offensensive
planning and schotty gets to sit down in the corner with a conical hat
on ???