Hank Williams Jr fired

[Ray O'Hara]

From Monday Night Football.
\
It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams compared
Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-opening-pulled-after-singers-hitler-reference?campaign=Twitter_news

[Michael]

On Oct 3, 9:38 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From Monday Night Football.
> \
> It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams compared
> Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>

> http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-o...

that is such moronic thing for him to say !!!!

hitler was a right wing totalitarin that gained complete control over
a nation... obama is a closet marxist that lacks the political will to
bring his socialist eutopia to fruition... polar opposites...
williams is a lame brained red neck and should shut his white trash
pie hole

[MuahMan]

That is such a moronic thing to be fired for. NFL and ESPN are lame
pussies.

[JKConey]

"Ray O'Hara" wrote in message news:j6do1u$9gt$1...@dont-email.me...

Who says CW singers are dumb? LOL


-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

[Papa Carl]

"Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:e7d35068-f5a2-43a7...@de2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

When did he get so brain damaged? Was it falling off the freakin mountain
or is it from all the booze and drugs...I saw him in concert and he was
asking where he could get some weed? Hell...it's a "family
tradition"...what a dumb ass idiot...he and those who think like him are
precisely why this country will go to Hell...and there are a ton of
them...the enemy??? I'm serious when I say this asshole thinks they can
revive the Civil War and his "Southern values."

[MuahMan]

On Oct 4, 12:41 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message

There are definitely more of us than you stupid liberal socialist
yanks. We do need another Civil War, and when it comes all registered
Democratcs will be euthanized. You want to eat.... get a job. Want a
roof over your head... get a job. Want to eat.... get a job.

[Michael]

> roof over your head... get a job. Want to eat.... get a job.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Lolz... I 100 % appreciate the sentiment that there are people that
game the system, do nothing and wait for the money to come falling
right out of the sky. It is also true that the democratic party
appeals to the people looking for such hand outs just so they can get
the votes. The republican party sells their bull shit by trying to
convince people that all the democrats want to do is tax working
people and give their hard earned money to low lifes that don’t want
to get out of bed to go to work. In both cases, it is bull shit. It
is all just as ignorant as Williams’ Hitler comment. Big money,
special interest, powerful foreign policy lobby, petrochemical
industry, big pharma, etc... They tell Obama what to do just as sure
as they would tell the most right wing republican prez what to go
do... And, they would listen... You should have a problem with Obama,
but not because he is a liberal. For the most part, his policy has
been right down the middle even though I think he is a socialist at
heart. The problem with Obama is that he has been nothing but an
obedient lap dog. He caves quicker than the Jets offensive line.
Williams’ remark was just as ignorant as Michelle Bachman saying that
the north east suffered hurricane damage because we don’t do right by
god. We live on the same planet with people who think that shit.

[eric]

Morons do moronic things.

[Percy Flage]

Fucking NFL Nazis.



--
Percy Flage
"Life is too short to have to explain everyday."

[Deadmeat]

I don't care what he said. I don't care about his political ideas.

All I care about is not having to listen to that crappy song again.

Thank you, Hitler.

[Papa Carl]

"Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:b3c3fc6c-dc28-4527...@q24g2000vby.googlegroups.com...

Muha Man...and that name says a lot....I've worked more jobs at the same
time than you've ever had in your life. Your idea of needing another Civil
War says it all...you are a lower than whale shit scum bag. Have you ever
had a real job yourself ? Or does still living with Mom in her basement let
you off the hook on that one? I'm something you want to fear...a liberal
with a gun and one who would use it on assholes like you in a NY minute.
What the Hell does that racist remark by Williams have to do with "Get a
Job"...Oh...that's all you know how to say I guess...what a freakin idiot.

[Papa Carl]

"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:072b73df-83fc-4037...@u6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
X-No-Archive: Yes

>
> > From Monday Night Football.
> > \
> > It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams
> > compared
> > Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>
> >http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-o...
>
> that is such moronic thing for him to say !!!!
>
> hitler was a right wing totalitarin that gained complete control over
> a nation... obama is a closet marxist that lacks the political will to
> bring his socialist eutopia to fruition... polar opposites...
> williams is a lame brained red neck and should shut his white trash
> pie hole
> ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> When did he get so brain damaged? Was it falling off the freakin mountain
> or is it from all the booze and drugs...I saw him in concert and he was
> asking where he could get some weed? Hell...it's a "family
> tradition"...what a dumb ass idiot...he and those who think like him are
> precisely why this country will go to Hell...and there are a ton of
> them...the enemy??? I'm serious when I say this asshole thinks they can
> revive the Civil War and his "Southern values."

In the words of Sgt Hulka, lighten up Francis. :)

He didn't call Obama Hitler. He painted a picture to say he didn't
want the GOP meeting with the political enemy. He referenced Hitler
but didn't call Obama that.

Papa, sadly the word Hitler, Nazi, Fascist, gets tossed around by both
sides. TV & the internet has made it worse. I was glad to see that
Congress has begun to act with more decorum with both sides using
procedure to remove hateful (idiotic?) words from the record. A
recent NY Times article which I can't find wrote about it saying the
shooting of AZ rep woke everyone up. Surprisingly a Rep from PA (D)
gave Boehner credit. Maybe there is hope.

BTW, he sounds like a hick but think about who listens to him.
____________________________________________________________________________________________
I can't agree........if you think Williams' remarks were appropriate there
may be no hope...apparently you do not know what an analogy is...he compared
playing golf with Obama as Netanyahu playing golf with Hitler...he said
Obama and the other Dems are "the enemy"....we are only talking about HIS
remarks...they are unacceptable and so are people who try and soft soap or
justify them.

[Papa Carl]

<Deadmeat> wrote in message
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THANK YOU ! Winner of the best response to this...you are absolutely
correct...the song is OLD.

[mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu]

On Oct 3, 9:38 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> From Monday Night Football.
> \
> It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams compared
> Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>

> http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-o...

That is a moronic stupid thing to say!!!!!

One guy was a dictator that took over industries, promoted economic
Nazism, took rights away, led a punitive jack booted government, spied
on his people, murdered his own citizens, and destroyed his ENTIRE
country!!!!

And the other one was Hitler!!

mr dude

[JKConey]

"Papa Carl" wrote in message
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"Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Oct 4, 2:29 am, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 4, 12:41 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:e7d35068-f5a2-43a7...@de2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Oct 3, 9:38 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > From Monday Night Football.
> > > \
> > > It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams
> > > compared
> > > Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Muha Man...and that name says a lot....I've worked more jobs at the same
time than you've ever had in your life. Your idea of needing another Civil
War says it all...you are a lower than whale shit scum bag. Have you ever
had a real job yourself ? Or does still living with Mom in her basement let
you off the hook on that one? I'm something you want to fear...a liberal
with a gun and one who would use it on assholes like you in a NY minute.
What the Hell does that racist remark by Williams have to do with "Get a
Job"...Oh...that's all you know how to say I guess...what a freakin idiot.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

John Fitzgerald Kennedy:
"If by 'Liberal' they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone
who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the
welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their
jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes
we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our
policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a 'Liberal', then I'm proud to
say I'm a 'Liberal.'"


-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

[Michael]

On Oct 4, 10:34 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Papa Carl"  wrote in message
>
> news:RbSdnTTwJYiXCBbT...@giganews.com...
>

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>
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if liberahhl means my brothahh can drown a broad in his cahhh... my
fahhthahh can run rum and manipulate the mahhhket... i can steal an
election... ehhrraahhh, ehhrahhh... then ahhmmm a liberahhl

cuban missile crisis most over rated political episode in history. if
lemay had his way, castro would have been dead years ago and cuba
would have been free. the russians would not have done jack shit,
because they didnt have the hardware to prevent their whole soviet
empire from going up in smoke if the were stupid enough to lob their
garbage icbm's in russia or tactical nukes that they had in cuba

[MuahMan]

On Oct 4, 10:34 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:

> "Papa Carl"  wrote in message
>
> news:RbSdnTTwJYiXCBbT...@giganews.com...
>

> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:b3c3fc6c-dc28-4527...@q24g2000vby.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 4, 2:29 am, MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 12:41 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:e7d35068-f5a2-43a7...@de2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Oct 3, 9:38 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > From Monday Night Football.
> > > > \
> > > > It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams
> > > > compared
> > > > Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>
> Muha Man...and that name says a lot....I've worked more jobs at the same
> time than you've ever had in your life.  Your idea of needing another Civil
> War says it all...you are a lower than whale shit scum bag.  Have you ever
> had a real job yourself ?  Or does still living with Mom in her basement let
> you off the hook on that one?  I'm something you want to fear...a liberal
> with a gun and one who would use it on assholes like you in a NY minute.
> What the Hell does that racist remark by Williams have to do with "Get a
> Job"...Oh...that's all you know how to say I guess...what a freakin idiot.
>

LOL

A liberal with a gun. BAD LIBERAL! BAD!!!! The government exists to
take care of you and provide for your every need. Trust them.
At any rate, get a job and get off welfare. When the Civil War comes
I'm heading north to kill all of you mother fuckers in NY. Have fun
fight with rocks and sticks. I'll bring my AR 15.

[JKConey]

"MuahMan" wrote in message
news:6aa6ff01-e6d2-47b9...@18g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...

A liberal with a gun. BAD LIBERAL! BAD!!!! The government exists to
take care of you and provide for your every need. Trust them.
At any rate, get a job and get off welfare. When the Civil War comes
I'm heading north to kill all of you mother fuckers in NY. Have fun
fight with rocks and sticks. I'll bring my AR 15.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

ROTFLMAO.... the little big man Brian Pratt cleaning up after seniors in
Boca Raton, Florida, fighting? OMG is that funny! Let's go big shot. Name
the place and time. Many here would love to give you a meet and greet. Are
you sure you're man enough? LOL

[MuahMan]

Typical NY'er all bark, zero bite. Maybe I'll throw another jet fan
down the stairs of 300 section of Dolphin stadium again. Last guy
broke his neck, it was fucking hysterical sitting there watching him
drool on himself as he got carted off to jail. Anyways... enjoy your
welfare check Obama supporter. Once the 2nd Civil War starts you will
getting paid in hollow points.

[Papa Carl]

"JKConey" <jkc...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:j6gfn8$rf2$1...@dont-email.me...

That sounds good to me. That remark about needing another Civil War really
hit a nerve in me....how can people think that way? To want to see people
killed and a Nation destroyed is totally un-American...it is beyond anything
I ever thought I'd ever hear.

[Papa Carl]

"JKConey" <jkc...@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:j6gjim$eqo$1...@dont-email.me...

JK...this old man will come with you...and I will not need anything to kick
his ass...he is a loser. I am angry at myself for even reading anything he
writes.

[Michael]

On Oct 5, 9:30 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > From Monday Night Football.
> > > > \
> > > > It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams
> > > > compared
> > > > Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>
> > > >http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-o...
>
> > > that is such moronic thing for him to say !!!!
>
> > > hitler was a right wing totalitarin that gained complete control over
> > > a nation... obama is a closet marxist that lacks the political will to
> > > bring his socialist eutopia to fruition... polar opposites...
> > > williams is a lame brained red neck and should shut his white trash
> > > pie hole

> > > ___________________________________________________________________________­_________________________________

>
> > > When did he get so brain damaged? Was it falling off the freakin mountain
> > > or is it from all the booze and drugs...I saw him in concert and he was
> > > asking where he could get some weed? Hell...it's a "family
> > > tradition"...what a dumb ass idiot...he and those who think like him are
> > > precisely why this country will go to Hell...and there are a ton of
> > > them...the enemy??? I'm serious when I say this asshole thinks they can
> > > revive the Civil War and his "Southern values."
>
> > In the words of Sgt Hulka, lighten up Francis. :)
>
> > He didn't call Obama Hitler.  He painted a picture to say he didn't
> > want the GOP meeting with the political enemy. He referenced Hitler
> > but didn't call Obama that.
>
> > Papa, sadly the word Hitler, Nazi, Fascist, gets tossed around by both
> > sides.  TV & the internet has made it worse. I was glad to see that
> > Congress has begun to act with more decorum with both sides using
> > procedure to remove hateful (idiotic?) words from the record.  A
> > recent NY Times article which I can't find wrote about it saying the
> > shooting of AZ rep woke everyone up. Surprisingly a Rep from PA (D)
> > gave Boehner credit.  Maybe there is hope.
>
> > BTW, he sounds like a hick but think about who listens to him.

> > ___________________________________________________________________________­_________________

> > I can't agree........if you think Williams' remarks were appropriate there
> > may be no hope...apparently you do not know what an analogy is...he compared
> > playing golf with Obama as Netanyahu playing golf with Hitler...he said
> > Obama and the other Dems are "the enemy"....we are only talking about HIS
> > remarks...they are unacceptable and so are people who try and soft soap or
> > justify them.
>

> You really have to stop putting words in my mouth.
>
> It was a poor choice by Williams but one that many on the left in the
> entertainment business & even some pundits who should know better,
> have used in reference to the GOP & conservatives.  I assume you would
> support repercussions against those people as well.
>
> I find flippant references to Hitler when people are talking about
> someone they disagree with politically but that analogy was talking
> about enemies and the distance not calling Obama Hitler.  I can't
> control what you hear & that is why he shouldn't have used it but I
> have listened to that video & he didn't call Obama Hitler. Not that I
> think he wanted to paint that picture but you could easily say that he
> was referring to Boehner as Hitler.
>
> It wasn't like calling you, Johnny & burf lefties or Commies because
> that is an attempt at humor & I like you guys.- Hide quoted text -

>
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i bet you'd like to call me somthing, McFitzO'Shaunacey...

:-)

[Deadmeat]

There are no stairs in the the 300 section you moron. Those are the suites.

Nice try dickhead.

[Nunya Bidnits]

And what's with the sunglasses all the time? Heroin? Morphine?

His daddy would beat his ass senseless for running his mouth. Which he
probably did, many times. Which probably accounts for why Junior seems so
brain-damaged. Necks are so entertaining.

[Papa Carl]

"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:56c6cc3c-076a-42d2...@x16g2000yql.googlegroups.com...

You really have to stop putting words in my mouth.

It was a poor choice by Williams but one that many on the left in the
entertainment business & even some pundits who should know better,
have used in reference to the GOP & conservatives. I assume you would
support repercussions against those people as well.

I find flippant references to Hitler when people are talking about
someone they disagree with politically but that analogy was talking
about enemies and the distance not calling Obama Hitler. I can't
control what you hear & that is why he shouldn't have used it but I
have listened to that video & he didn't call Obama Hitler. Not that I
think he wanted to paint that picture but you could easily say that he
was referring to Boehner as Hitler.

It wasn't like calling you, Johnny & burf lefties or Commies because
that is an attempt at humor & I like you guys.

________________________________________________________________________________

The Fox folks were baffled and surprised..."THEY are the enemy"....he named
them...the reference was very clear....and I would not think anyone using a
similar analogy with a Republican would be appropriate. I do not find being
called a lefty communist amusing. It is an insult and an attack. And it is
something conservatives use all the time...and think it is amusing and just
in fun. But when anything goes back the other way they are very upset. I
do not think calling the President "the enemy" does any thing but hurt, and
there are a lot of idiots who follow people who say crap like that.

[Nunya Bidnits]

Michael <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Williams’ remark was just as ignorant as Michelle Bachman saying that
> the north east suffered hurricane damage because we don’t do right by
> god. We live on the same planet with people who think that shit.

That started with our ancestors who thought human sacrifices made it rain
and slaying goats kept the volcano from erupting. The religious social virus
infection that started eons ago as a result of superstition created by
ignorant association of disconnected events is still active today.

[Papa Carl]

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:j6htvj$utd$1...@dont-email.me...

Daddy was dead long before junior got going to very far in life. He was a
major drug user at one time...still drinks I believe and I think from a
reference I heard him make live one time not so long ago....he still smokes
a lot of weed. "Hank why do you drink, and why do you blow smoke...well,
it's just a Family Tradition"....he got famous on his father's name and
references to drinking and smoking weed....following in Daddy's footsteps.
He loves guns and has a big cannon at his house and dresses up in
Confederate garb to shoot off the cannon. He does have some talent...but
has not done anything recent.....he can play guitar well....but not so great
he would have made it without his name and heritage...way too many people
better than him out there.

[Michael]

On Oct 5, 11:53 am, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:

Exactly... Organized, religion has been the bane of humanity. It is
ignorance celebrated. While faith is essential to have for a
fulfilling life, organized religion is 5 % faith at best and 95 %
social politics. Dangerous and destructive politics, at that.

[Percy Flage]

MuahMan knows his arse from his elbow even less than our O-line.

[JKConey]

"MuahMan" wrote in message
news:942a5bc2-18ef-4d0f...@5g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...

Nothing typical about NYers. Why not show all of us YOUR bite then?
Repeat... name the time and place. Papa and I would love to meet you. What?
Can't get away from the fryer little fat boy? LOL


-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

[MuahMan]

HAHAHA Stupid NY Faggot. Come at me bro. Why you need backup? I'll
fucking kill you. When the 2nd Civil War that Obama is gonna start
comes... I'll be up there to kill every last one of you free loading
welfare collecting mother fuckers.

Thanks for reminding my 9/11 is my favorite holiday.

[Papa Carl]

"JKConey" <jkc...@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:j6ingu$i6g$1...@dont-email.me...

It's his important job...the one at that place with the Golden
Arches...sometimes they even let him do the burgers. I'm an old shit...the
thing is, I've been there and done it and was even clinically dead once...so
I flat out don't give a rats ass...I saw the other side and it ain't so bad
:-) I'd really enjoy us going there and beating his ass...gotta check the
batteries in my pacemaker.

[Papa Carl]

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message

news:j6huht$388$1...@dont-email.me...

Oh Yeah....so true. Killing in God's name.

[Ray O'Hara]

"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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X-No-Archive: Yes

>
> > From Monday Night Football.
> > \
> > It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams
> > compared
> > Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>
> >http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-o...
>
> that is such moronic thing for him to say !!!!
>
> hitler was a right wing totalitarin that gained complete control over
> a nation... obama is a closet marxist that lacks the political will to
> bring his socialist eutopia to fruition... polar opposites...
> williams is a lame brained red neck and should shut his white trash
> pie hole
> ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> When did he get so brain damaged? Was it falling off the freakin mountain
> or is it from all the booze and drugs...I saw him in concert and he was
> asking where he could get some weed? Hell...it's a "family
> tradition"...what a dumb ass idiot...he and those who think like him are
> precisely why this country will go to Hell...and there are a ton of
> them...the enemy??? I'm serious when I say this asshole thinks they can
> revive the Civil War and his "Southern values."

In the words of Sgt Hulka, lighten up Francis. :)

He didn't call Obama Hitler. He painted a picture to say he didn't
want the GOP meeting with the political enemy. He referenced Hitler
but didn't call Obama that.

Papa, sadly the word Hitler, Nazi, Fascist, gets tossed around by both
sides. TV & the internet has made it worse. I was glad to see that
Congress has begun to act with more decorum with both sides using
procedure to remove hateful (idiotic?) words from the record. A
recent NY Times article which I can't find wrote about it saying the
shooting of AZ rep woke everyone up. Surprisingly a Rep from PA (D)
gave Boehner credit. Maybe there is hope.

BTW, he sounds like a hick but think about who listens to him.

==========================================================================

he compared Obama to Hitler and only the most kochsucking teabagger thinks
otherwise.

[MuahMan]

On Oct 5, 8:33 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "John C TX" <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:072b73df-83fc-4037...@u6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...

Hitler was a much better person than Obama is or ever can be. Stupid
comparison. He should have compared him to the homeless nigs wandering
around Palm Beach County.

[RävNsfän ®]

<Deadmeat> wrote in message
news:4e8c75f6$0$1062$c3e8da3$9f40...@news.astraweb.com...

Hol dup now, ...there is a slightly raised section of carpet edge-molding
just before one enters the elevators which could be mistaken for 15 to 20
steps if the sh-t one is smoking ... is smokin' !
--
~Drew
"Talk is cheap ...lets just go play"
Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts

[RävNsfän ®]

"Papa Carl" <papa...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:EZmdnYkwN662RhbT...@giganews.com...
:
: "JKConey" <jkc...@verizon.net> wrote in message

I've yet to fight in, or to read about, ...any war that could remotely be
considered as being "civil". The irony, no the hypocrisy of the two words as
joined to excuse a nation's most disgraceful past is nothing less than
reprehensible when I reflect upon the numbers that were led to slaughter at
the hands of their brothers.

[R�vNsf�n �]

"Papa Carl" <papa...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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: "John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message

It is politics and you know both parties practice the unmanly art. In fact
since the Reagan era, I can't remember when a sitting president was not
disrespected by the opposing party and let us not exclude a biased media.

:
:

[Michael]

On Oct 6, 10:12 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes

>
> > > > Williams remark was just as ignorant as Michelle Bachman saying that
> > > > the north east suffered hurricane damage because we don t do right by
> > > > god.  We live on the same planet with people who think that shit.
>
> > > That started with our ancestors who thought human sacrifices made it rain
> > > and slaying goats kept the volcano from erupting. The religious social virus
> > > infection that started eons ago as a result of superstition created by
> > > ignorant association of disconnected events is still active today.
>
> > Exactly... Organized, religion has been the bane of humanity.  It is
> > ignorance celebrated.  While faith is essential to have for a
> > fulfilling life, organized religion is 5 % faith at best and 95 %
> > social politics.  Dangerous and destructive politics, at that.
>

> Counting down until you vomit up the great canard about religious wars
> killing more people.
>
> You really should take a closer look to home & stop worrying about
> William's reference to Hitler.  Reading what you write I really can't
> believe you are an adult at times.

Aww... Jeez.... I'm not throwing a protracted fit over Williams Hitler
remark... My initial response to the original poster was a comic
remark about Obama and Hitler being polar opposites, politically. I
also think it is a bit odd that you question my maturity/age as a
reaction to my commentary above. I don’t think it is sound for any
person, group or societies’ reasoning to be underpinned by any
religious dogma that has its basis; anti-science, prescribed exclusion
of "the other", misogyny, myth, anachronistic inclinations from a by
gone age that no longer have any bearing on contemporary life, self
obsession, self importance, a duty to convert the *others* by reason
or by the sword, promoting the belief that the *others* are natural
protagonists in opposition to your ordained blood group/tribe/
association, and above all, giving "holey men" the power to decided
the mind of god.

I guess I'm a damn child.

[John C TX]

On Oct 6, 10:04 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 10:12 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > > > > Williams remark was just as ignorant as Michelle Bachman saying that
> > > > > the north east suffered hurricane damage because we don t do right by
> > > > > god.  We live on the same planet with people who think that shit.
>
> > > > That started with our ancestors who thought human sacrifices made it rain
> > > > and slaying goats kept the volcano from erupting. The religious social virus
> > > > infection that started eons ago as a result of superstition created by
> > > > ignorant association of disconnected events is still active today.
>
> > > Exactly... Organized, religion has been the bane of humanity.  It is
> > > ignorance celebrated.  While faith is essential to have for a
> > > fulfilling life, organized religion is 5 % faith at best and 95 %
> > > social politics.  Dangerous and destructive politics, at that.
>
> > Counting down until you vomit up the great canard about religious wars
> > killing more people.
>
> > You really should take a closer look to home & stop worrying about
> > William's reference to Hitler.  Reading what you write I really can't
> > believe you are an adult at times.
>
> Aww... Jeez.... I'm not throwing a protracted fit over Williams Hitler
> remark... My initial response to the original poster was a comic
> remark about Obama and Hitler being polar opposites, politically. I
> also think it is a bit odd that you question my maturity/age as a
> reaction to my commentary above.  

Because to be kind you are at best you are an insensitive idiot and in
the worst case a pot stirrer who writes things just to annoy people.

>I don’t think it is sound for any
> person, group or societies’ reasoning to be underpinned by any
> religious dogma that has its basis; anti-science, prescribed exclusion
> of "the other", misogyny, myth, anachronistic inclinations from a by
> gone age that no longer have any bearing on contemporary life, self
> obsession, self importance, a duty to convert the *others* by reason
> or by the sword, promoting the belief that the *others* are natural
> protagonists in opposition to your ordained blood group/tribe/
> association, and above all, giving "holey men" the power to decided
> the mind of god.

To me it appears you are writing about yourself. You cobble together
every idiotic cliche about religion and your ignorance on the subject
is apparent.

>
> I guess I'm a damn child.

If you were there would be hope.

[Michael]

yes... i deliberately try to be provocative at times... it is not my
objective to be insensitive.

> >I don’t think it is sound for any
> > person, group or societies’ reasoning to be underpinned by any
> > religious dogma that has its basis; anti-science, prescribed exclusion
> > of "the other", misogyny, myth, anachronistic inclinations from a by
> > gone age that no longer have any bearing on contemporary life, self
> > obsession, self importance, a duty to convert the *others* by reason
> > or by the sword, promoting the belief that the *others* are natural
> > protagonists in opposition to your ordained blood group/tribe/
> > association, and above all, giving "holey men" the power to decided
> > the mind of god.
>
> To me it appears you are writing about yourself.  You cobble together
> every idiotic cliche about religion and your ignorance on the subject
> is apparent.

if i dont agree with your point of view, it can only mean i am
ignotant on the subject/history of religion. perhaps, you need to
read some of those cliches again. this time give it some real
thought.

> > I guess I'm a damn child.
>

> If you were there would be hope.- Hide quoted text -

when you start showing a man or a woman that they have based their
entire life on a false doctrine that was sold to them when they were
impressionable, it makes them dangerous. reactions are always
unreasonable. they can include name calling, aggression, threats of
violence and violent acts. fundamentalists are the enemies of
reason.

i sincerely apologize if i have offended you.

[Tutor]

On Oct 3, 9:38 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> From Monday Night Football.
> \
> It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams compared
> Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>
> http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-o...

Hate Hank Williams. Hate that fuckin song. Good riddance. Hey Hank,
don't let the barn door hit you in shit-for-brains on the way out.
Redneck.

[Tutor]

haha even funnier Hank now saying "he quit" due to ESPN infringing on
his right to free speech. How ironic. A redneck citing his first
amendment freedoms. Too funny. It doesn't get much better than that.

[JKConey]

"Papa Carl" wrote in message

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"
>
> -- JK Sinrod
> www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

That sounds good to me. That remark about needing another Civil War really
hit a nerve in me....how can people think that way? To want to see people
killed and a Nation destroyed is totally un-American...it is beyond anything
I ever thought I'd ever hear.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

As soon as I read that quote I thought of you. As far as Pratt, that's
what being anonymous does for a guy that's been eating from the bottom of
the dumpster of life for years. He's jealous and resentful of anyone that
does better than he does, and that's pretty much everyone. Let's see he
hates all NYers, Jews, Blacks, liberals, and being challenged by real men.
His reward for being him, is a lonely life filled with hate.


-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

[JKConey]

"MuahMan" wrote in message
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On Oct 5, 6:59 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "MuahMan" wrote in message
>

HAHAHA Stupid NY Faggot. Come at me bro. Why you need backup? I'll
fucking kill you. When the 2nd Civil War that Obama is gonna start
comes... I'll be up there to kill every last one of you free loading
welfare collecting mother fuckers.

Thanks for reminding my 9/11 is my favorite holiday.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Who's already sent this hate mail to the authorities? His true reward is
a life filled with hate and loneliness.

-- JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

[Michael]

On Oct 6, 4:36 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "MuahMan"  wrote in message
>
> news:0b945f33-fccb-4a6b...@g23g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Oct 5, 6:59 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > "MuahMan"  wrote in message
>
> HAHAHA Stupid NY Faggot. Come at me bro. Why you need backup? I'll
> fucking kill you. When the 2nd Civil War that Obama is gonna start
> comes... I'll be up there to kill every last one of you free loading
> welfare collecting mother fuckers.
>
> Thanks for reminding my 9/11 is my favorite holiday.
>
>
>
>    Who's already sent this hate mail to the authorities? His true reward is
> a life filled with hate and loneliness.
>
> -- JK Sinrodwww.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

I dont stand for a single one of the ugly things that fellow said,
but... Please... Tell me... Which of the "authorities" did you have in
mind ??? The Gestapo, KGB or Department Of Fatherland... Um.... I mean
Homeland Security ??

[MZ]

On Oct 6, 10:08 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> People generally find me very funny.

Only Hitler would find you funny.

> >and think it is amusing and just
> > in fun.  But when anything goes back the other way they are very upset.  I
> > do not think calling the President "the enemy" does any thing but hurt, and
> > there are a lot of idiots who follow people who say crap like that.
>

> Papa, sorry but some of the things you wrote about Bush in here were
> worse & some of it he deserved but sorry if I don't get worked up
> about HW jr.  What he said is mild compared to what many on the left
> have said for years with rarely a backlash to their careers.

Who is this Hank Williams guy? Is that the name of the stupid robot
that gets in the way of the score on Fox broadcasts? I pictured him
as more of a Paul.

[MZ]

On Oct 6, 11:04 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Aww... Jeez.... I'm not throwing a protracted fit over Williams Hitler
> remark... My initial response to the original poster was a comic
> remark about Obama and Hitler being polar opposites, politically.

They're very different, but I wouldn't say opposites. Both are/were
right-wingers. I don't see anything about Obama's policies that
strike me as socialist-leaning, even the ones he doesn't implement.
What are you speaking about, specifically?

[Papa Carl]

"JKConey" <jkc...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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____________________________________________________________________________________________

JK....BuRf has met my son...he came down here a year ago for an event we
do...my son is a Federal Agent...sent it to him. They can do all kinds of
things with tracing. PC

[Papa Carl]

"MZ" <for...@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote in message
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Hey Mark...how come we see it this way and so many other don't??? Good
points, thank you.

[Papa Carl]

"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> > > > From Monday Night Football.
> > > > \
> > > > It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams
> > > > compared
> > > > Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>
> > > >http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-o...
>

Probably his intent but your opinion. I won't hold my breath waiting
for the outrage. The left has been calling the right fascists since
Reagan maybe a carryover from the the moron fringe during Vietnam.
The right does the same at least not on the floor of the House.

I think there is hypersensitivity to any historical reference from
WWII. Maybe it is justified.

>I do not find being
> called a lefty communist amusing. It is an insult and an attack. And it is
> something conservatives use all the time...

& you do the same by often generalizing about the right, the south
etc.

I do it as a form of humor. I obviously don't think you, Johnny or B
are Commies & I don't view Leftie or even Commie as a pejorative. My
friends who are on the left -- I actually have plenty, both friends &
lefties--know it is hyperbole not an attack. Sorry if the subtlety is
lost on you. People generally find me very funny.

>and think it is amusing and just
> in fun. But when anything goes back the other way they are very upset. I
> do not think calling the President "the enemy" does any thing but hurt,
> and
> there are a lot of idiots who follow people who say crap like that.

Papa, sorry but some of the things you wrote about Bush in here were
worse & some of it he deserved but sorry if I don't get worked up
about HW jr. What he said is mild compared to what many on the left
have said for years with rarely a backlash to their careers.

_______________________________________________________________________
I really don't think I ever said anythign about W that was not based on some
fact. Even so...I don't see him as the "enemy" and never said that. Even
though I don't like the people he kept around him and really don't like
their policies then and now...they are not the "enemy"....

I'm not a communist and I don't like being called one...that is a hugely
loaded deal in this country. If you want to call me left of center or even
a socialist you could probably make some of it stick...but I'm pro gun and
will defend the first amendment to the hilt....I am not happy with all the
Patriot Act does and think it does try and take away too many freedoms and
place too much power in the hands of government. I think many of the
liberals in government have done a horrendous job of things. I jsut don't
think dividing, calling peole the "enemy" is a good idea.

[MZ]

On a not-so-related-subject, but probably a more on-topic one, Obama's
(the "left winger") war has now crippled the New England Patriots
running game.

Ok, so I exaggerate.

(interestingly, the "this is a time of war" line sounds like something
right out of the Bush regime...)

---

The Patriots have an unexpected opening on their practice squad, as
Eric Kettani -- the former Navy fullback -- has been called back to
the USS Klakring. The news that he has been denied leave from the Navy
has created a mix of emotions for him.

"I love my country and I’m happy to serve it, but I’m also happy to be
a New England Patriot," Kettani said tonight.

Kettani is scheduled to fly out at 6 a.m. Friday, so he said goodbye
to coaches and teammates today.

"I think some of them were shocked. Coach Belichick said he'd help me
out in any way possible," Kettani relayed.

Kettani, who is appealing the decision, was surprised at the turn of
events, in part because former Lions linebacker and current
Indianapolis Colts practice squad player Caleb Campbell (Army) and
Eagles practice squad receiver Chad Hall (Air Force) have had the
opportunity to continue their playing careers.

Kettani was told he was being called back because this is a time of
war.

As for how this affects the Patriots, they have BenJarvus Green-Ellis,
Danny Woodhead, Stevan Ridley and Shane Vereen as running backs on the
active roster. Kettani added depth, and this could lead the team to
target another running back/fullback-type for the practice squad.

[Michael]

> > I guess I'm a damn child.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

mark... i cant imagine you see obama as wanting to have "national
socialism" in the fact that all degrees of society are put under
strict government control including religion, the military and race.
when you say obama is "right wing", that is only in the context of
*american* politics.

obama and hitler have one thing that i see in common and even though
that may be a cogent statement, the degree of the similarity is pale.
hitler wanted total government control over economic policy for "the
good of the nation". obama's policies have been to add more
government control and ownership over some economic components.

also good to keep in mind... taking steps to gain more control and
ownership over economic bodies/activities could be part of a far left
or far right regime.

however, we have two totally different political cats in hitler and
obama

if you are not comfortable with the word *opposite*, please keep in
mind, i'm not writing for the new york times or a doctoral thesis in
here

[Papa Carl]

"MZ" <for...@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote in message

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So trade them McKnight for an O lineman :-) And....don't you think from
here on out it will always be a "time of war"?

[Michael]

On Oct 6, 7:13 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote in message

>
> news:j6l3gi$ifl$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>
>
> > "MuahMan"  wrote in message
> >news:0b945f33-fccb-4a6b...@g23g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Oct 5, 6:59 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> "MuahMan"  wrote in message
>
> > HAHAHA Stupid NY Faggot. Come at me bro. Why you need backup? I'll
> > fucking kill you. When the 2nd Civil War that Obama is gonna start
> > comes... I'll be up there to kill every last one of you free loading
> > welfare collecting mother fuckers.
>
> > Thanks for reminding my 9/11 is my favorite holiday.
>
> >   Who's already sent this hate mail to the authorities? His true reward is
> > a life filled with hate and loneliness.
>
> > -- JK Sinrod
> >www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>

> ___________________________________________________________________________­_________________

>
> JK....BuRf has met my son...he came down here a year ago for an event we
> do...my son is a Federal Agent...sent it to him.  They can do all kinds of

> things with tracing. PC- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

what reson would they have to trace his computer ??? again... I dont
stand for a single thing that guy says, but free speech is protected
by law. did he make any specific threats to commit criminal acts
against anyone or did he write about any criminal acts that he has or
plans to undetake ??? i dont think he did. who started taking about
fire arms ???

[MZ]

On Oct 6, 8:22 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 6:30 pm, MZ <for...@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 6, 11:04 am, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > Aww... Jeez.... I'm not throwing a protracted fit over Williams Hitler
> > > remark... My initial response to the original poster was a comic
> > > remark about Obama and Hitler being polar opposites, politically.
>
> > They're very different, but I wouldn't say opposites.  Both are/were
> > right-wingers.  I don't see anything about Obama's policies that
> > strike me as socialist-leaning, even the ones he doesn't implement.
> > What are you speaking about, specifically?
>
> > > I guess I'm a damn child.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> mark... i cant imagine you see obama as wanting to have "national
> socialism" in the fact that all degrees of society are put under
> strict government control including religion, the military and race.
> when you say obama is "right wing", that is only in the context of
> *american* politics.
>
> obama and hitler have one thing that i see in common and even though
> that may be a cogent statement, the degree of the similarity is pale.
> hitler wanted total government control over economic policy for "the
> good of the nation".  obama's policies have been to add more
> government control and ownership over some economic components.

Michael, I don't think so. I think "total government control" more or
less fits the description of Obama's economic policies. That's a
pretty coarse definition, and obviously there are some key differences
between US policies and those of other historical "right wing"
economic approaches, but in a nutshell I think that description fits.
I can't think of a whole lot of industries where the government, or
its subsidiaries, don't share almost complete control except for those
where they choose not to (e.g. where the barrier to entry is already
high). It takes on names like "trickle down" if you're a republican,
or "stimulus" if you're a democrat, but they're still shades of the
same color.

Not trying to blame Obama here... this ball was rolling long before
he ever dreamed of pushing it himself. But make no mistake, he pushes
it.

> also good to keep in mind... taking steps to gain more control and
> ownership over economic bodies/activities could be part of a far left
> or far right regime.
>
> however, we have two totally different political cats in hitler and
> obama
>
> if you are not comfortable with the word *opposite*, please keep in
> mind, i'm not writing for the new york times or a doctoral thesis in
> here

Yeah, I'm thinking he's closer to the opposite of opposite, than to
just the opposite. ;)

[Papa Carl]

"Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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On Oct 6, 7:13 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:j6l3gi$ifl$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>
>
> > "MuahMan" wrote in message
> >news:0b945f33-fccb-4a6b...@g23g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Oct 5, 6:59 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> "MuahMan" wrote in message
>
> > HAHAHA Stupid NY Faggot. Come at me bro. Why you need backup? I'll
> > fucking kill you. When the 2nd Civil War that Obama is gonna start
> > comes... I'll be up there to kill every last one of you free loading
> > welfare collecting mother fuckers.
>
> > Thanks for reminding my 9/11 is my favorite holiday.
>
> > Who's already sent this hate mail to the authorities? His true reward is
> > a life filled with hate and loneliness.
>
> > -- JK Sinrod
> >www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>

> ___________________________________________________________________________茁________________

>
> JK....BuRf has met my son...he came down here a year ago for an event we
> do...my son is a Federal Agent...sent it to him. They can do all kinds of
> things with tracing. PC- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

what reson would they have to trace his computer ??? again... I dont
stand for a single thing that guy says, but free speech is protected
by law. did he make any specific threats to commit criminal acts
against anyone or did he write about any criminal acts that he has or
plans to undetake ??? i dont think he did. who started taking about
fire arms ???

_______________________________________________________________________________

Michael...lighten up a bit...damn, read what he said...go back and read how
he killing all of us.....he's an ass...we are playing...but...he could get
himself in some trouble advocating a new Civil War and taking over a
Nation...and he did say that.

[Michael]

mark... do you think obama wants fascist style control over the
economy ???

regardless of what he wants... capitol government does not control the
economy or the financial institutions in this country... quite the
contrary... that is what i am always foaming about in here. he has not
come even close to putting into practice what hitler and duce' did
with their respective economies

> Not trying to blame Obama here...  this ball was rolling long before
> he ever dreamed of pushing it himself.  But make no mistake, he pushes
> it.
>
> > also good to keep in mind... taking steps to gain more control and
> > ownership over economic bodies/activities could be part of a far left
> > or far right regime.
>
> > however, we have two totally different political cats in hitler and
> > obama
>
> > if you are not comfortable with the word *opposite*, please keep in
> > mind, i'm not writing for the new york times or a doctoral thesis in
> > here
>
> Yeah, I'm thinking he's closer to the opposite of opposite, than to

> just the opposite.  ;)- Hide quoted text -

[Michael]

On Oct 6, 10:19 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message

>
> news:c8a45c1c-a4f4-4b93...@i9g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 6, 7:13 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:j6l3gi$ifl$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> > > "MuahMan" wrote in message
> > >news:0b945f33-fccb-4a6b...@g23g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Oct 5, 6:59 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > >> "MuahMan" wrote in message
>
> > > HAHAHA Stupid NY Faggot. Come at me bro. Why you need backup? I'll
> > > fucking kill you. When the 2nd Civil War that Obama is gonna start
> > > comes... I'll be up there to kill every last one of you free loading
> > > welfare collecting mother fuckers.
>
> > > Thanks for reminding my 9/11 is my favorite holiday.
>
> > > Who's already sent this hate mail to the authorities? His true reward is
> > > a life filled with hate and loneliness.
>
> > > -- JK Sinrod
> > >www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>

> > ___________________________________________________________________________­ _________________

>
> > JK....BuRf has met my son...he came down here a year ago for an event we
> > do...my son is a Federal Agent...sent it to him. They can do all kinds of
> > things with tracing. PC- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> what reson would they have to trace his computer ??? again... I dont
> stand for a single thing that guy says, but free speech is protected
> by law.  did he make any specific threats to commit criminal acts
> against anyone or did he write about any criminal acts that he has or
> plans to undetake ??? i dont think he did.  who started taking about
> fire arms ???

> ___________________________________________________________________________­____

>
> Michael...lighten up a bit...damn, read what he said...go back and read how
> he killing all of us.....he's an ass...we are playing...but...he could get
> himself in some trouble advocating a new Civil War and taking over a

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he's a loony not jeff davis :-)

[Papa Carl]

"Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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There's a difference?

[Michael]

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jeff davis was a pile of excrement but at least he could hold a job...

[Papa Carl]

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And...his mother liked him too...a lot of people don't know his history, it
was really pretty interesting....that conflict is not really over.

[Señor Patriots]

On Oct 5, 6:22 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> It's his important job...the one at that place with the Golden
> Arches...

Hohohoho, hahahahahah, heheehehehehe ....

[MZ]

Yes. As has every president prior to him since, at least, T.R.

> regardless of what he wants... capitol government does not control the
> economy or the financial institutions in this country... quite the
> contrary... that is what i am always foaming about in here. he has not
> come even close to putting into practice what hitler and duce' did
> with their respective economies

I believe they do control it. It's a bit different because it's less
overt. But that's the point of democracy anyway.

By "control", I'm referring to central planning, which is implemented
through regulation, IP law, limited liability, monetary policy,
central banking, and (obviously) taxation/redistribution. Support
programs (e.g. the schooling industry) are designed to supplement
these goals. The biggest difference between US policy and the ones
you refer to are profit/loss, although many industries in the US are
made immune to this as well.

[Michael]

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>
> And...his mother liked him too...a lot of people don't know his history, it

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I have always thought that was interesting. The Civil War is an
unavoidable part of the country’s history. A lot of people know some
basic history on the subject including the major players and the major
battles. Still, even some history buffs have avoided Jeff Davis. No
one knows who the guy was. Very strange... He’s a ghost. I’ve
always been able to be objective when discussing people in history,
even if they were members of an unpopular opposition. None the less,
even though they had some fair grievances regarding taxation I have a
built in disgust for anything that has to do with the South in the
Civil War. When a Robert E. Lee fan tells me that he was the best
general in American history, my reply is that it was easy for Lee to
look good fighting against morons. I want to vomit when I come across
anything relating to Jackson or Forest.

[Michael]

Mark... I don’t see it that way. I could write volumes to explain
why. Let me try to sum it up without having to use 300 pages. When
Obama's policy is to the benefit of big business/special interest/wall
street, he gets his way. When his policy is not in line with what the
money guys want, he's pressured, rebffed and he folds. For example...
When you consider the bail-outs and all the trimmings that went along
with it... That was the biggest Keynesian exercise we have had since
FDR. Good for the money guys, so Obama had no problems getting it
done. What has Obama done to control the Federal Reserve,
petrochemical companies/markets, big pharma ??? Now consider this...
What would Duce' have been able to do with the Fed, petrochemical
companies, big pharma, etc... Hot knife, warm butter. Obama is not a
right wing dictator... He can only tie his shoes when the money guys
let him. He’s a frustrated social leftist on a set of strings.

> By "control", I'm referring to central planning, which is implemented
> through regulation, IP law, limited liability, monetary policy,
> central banking, and (obviously) taxation/redistribution.  Support
> programs (e.g. the schooling industry) are designed to supplement
> these goals.  The biggest difference between US policy and the ones
> you refer to are profit/loss, although many industries in the US are

> made immune to this as well.- Hide quoted text -

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Something interesting to consider going forward with any discussions
regarding who or what is Marxist/leftist and who or what is fascist/
right wing. I often find that these discussions wind up being an
argument over what words mean. Before we discuss one vs. the other,
it is helpful to know what words mean. For example… Nazism, Fascism,
Hitler and Duce’ are summarily defended as being far right. Keynesian
economics are summarily defined/labeled as left wing economic
philosophy. We have already established in an earlier thread that
Duce’s economy was anything but and Adam Smith laissez faire ideal.
So… Here we have a fascist government undertaking some tremendous
Keynesian exercises… So… What was that ??? Left win or right wing ;-)
Or as Hitler described it, national socialism…Some from the Left and
some from the Right. All of it extreme.

[MZ]

It's a mutually beneficial relationship. The money guys don't have
the power. They have the money. The government has the power.
Corporations can't tax. Corporations can't implement obstacles to
prevent competitors from entering the market. Corporations can't even
incorporate without the government creating a construct for which they
can. The corporations rely wholly on the government's decision to
shape the economic environment.

Do the corporations have a say in how it's done? I'm sure their
influence is substantial. That's what lobbyists are for. But there
are five zillion regular people in this country who are not beholden
to corporate interests who believe in the very same things Obama/Bush
believe in, economically. One prominent one happens to be a popular
nobel laureate who I'm pretty sure operates independently from big
pharma and whoever else. :)

> > By "control", I'm referring to central planning, which is implemented
> > through regulation, IP law, limited liability, monetary policy,
> > central banking, and (obviously) taxation/redistribution.  Support
> > programs (e.g. the schooling industry) are designed to supplement
> > these goals.  The biggest difference between US policy and the ones
> > you refer to are profit/loss, although many industries in the US are
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>
> Something interesting to consider going forward with any discussions
> regarding who or what is Marxist/leftist and who or what is fascist/
> right wing.  I often find that these discussions wind up being an
> argument over what words mean.  Before we discuss one vs. the other,
> it is helpful to know what words mean. For example…  Nazism, Fascism,
> Hitler and Duce’ are summarily defended as being far right.  Keynesian
> economics are summarily defined/labeled as left wing economic
> philosophy.

It is? I assumed voluntary marxism (e.g. syndicalism?) and austrian
economics were considered left, whereas state capitalism/state
socialism/fascism were considered right.

You might be right, it's in the definitions where we differ. When I
see the words "fascist" and "keynesian", I don't think dramatically
different things. You appear to be placing them at opposite extremes.

[JKConey]

"Señor Patriots" wrote in message
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Pratt is sweating, waiting for the knock at his door, and isn't that the
way it should be for hate mongering cowardly miscreants like him?

[Michael]

> > money guys want, he's pressured, rebuffed and he folds.  For example...

> > When you consider the bail-outs and all the trimmings that went along
> > with it... That was the biggest Keynesian exercise we have had since
> > FDR. Good for the money guys, so Obama had no problems getting it
> > done. What has Obama done to control the Federal Reserve,
> > petrochemical companies/markets, big pharma ??? Now consider this...
> > What would Duce' have been able to do with the Fed, petrochemical
> > companies, big pharma, etc... Hot knife, warm butter.  Obama is not a
> > right wing dictator... He can only tie his shoes when the money guys
> > let him.  He’s a frustrated social leftist on a set of strings.
>
> It's a mutually beneficial relationship.  

Again… In fascism, it is the government with direct control over the
economy to ensure that the mutual benefit is between the economy and
the people. The carrot is there for corporate taking, but so is the
stick if profiteering counter to the social good starts taking place.
You have only to look to our Federal Reserve system, Wall Street,
petrochemical industry, etc to conclude we don’t have anything
approaching fascism.

>The money guys don't have
> the power.  They have the money.  

The money gives them media acess, acess to buy candidates, elections
and hence... Puts the power in their court. It also gives them power
to determine how taxation is gong to work. It is a half assed
oligarchy.

> > Hitler and Duce’ are summarily defined as being far right.  Keynesian

> > economics are summarily defined/labeled as left wing economic
> > philosophy.
>
> It is?  I assumed voluntary marxism (e.g. syndicalism?) and austrian
> economics were considered left, whereas state capitalism/state
> socialism/fascism were considered right.
>
> You might be right, it's in the definitions where we differ.  When I
> see the words "fascist" and "keynesian", I don't think dramatically

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I am not placing fascism in opposition to Keynesian economics. I am
stating that the foundation of discussions relating to left vs. right
with respect to economics are faulty at the base because the
definitions are not concrete... Going from what I wrote above... Many
will summarily define Keynesian economics as a left wing construct and
left wing application. None the less, in true fascism (ultra right
wing by classic definition), we saw the most extreme form of
government intervention and control over the economy. Imagine calling
Hitler and Duce' leftists ???

What I insist on, is that fascism is not a mutually benificial
feathred bed between government and corporation. It is government
forcing and controlling corporation and econmic affairs for the social
good. That is fascism. What we have is a budding oligarchy... Neo
Feudalism. It is not left wing or right wing.

[MZ]

On Oct 7, 2:59 pm, Michael <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I am not placing fascism in opposition to Keynesian economics.  I am
> stating that the foundation of discussions relating to left vs. right
> with respect to economics are faulty at the base because the
> definitions are not concrete... Going from what I wrote above... Many
> will summarily define Keynesian economics as a left wing construct and
> left wing application.  None the less, in true fascism (ultra right
> wing by classic definition), we saw the most extreme form of
> government intervention and control over the economy.  Imagine calling
> Hitler and Duce' leftists ???

Michael, my disagreement isn't with where fascism belongs (left or
right), it has to do with where keynesianism belongs. Both systems
require explicit control of the economy by a ruling class (again, we
can differ on how "ruling class" is defined, but I think it's
inconsequential for this part...). "Control" comes in a number of
flavors. You can exert control on the profit/loss end or you can
exert control by setting up the conditions in a manner that will
result in an outcome desired by the state. The US economy contains
elements of both, although probably moreso the latter than the
former. Traditional "fascism", as you're referencing it, is probably
best described by the former. Both are forms of a centrally-planned
economy, as opposed to an economy based on free association, mutual
aid, etc. I believe those to be characterized as "left",
historically.

[MuahMan]

On Oct 6, 7:13 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote in message

Did he laugh at you, you stupid fuck. LOL

[MuahMan]

On Oct 7, 12:46 pm, "JKConey" <jkco...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Se or Patriots"  wrote in message

Yeah, i hope the agents they send are from NY. That way i'll know they
are gay and pussies and can take them out with a straw and some
spitballs. When Obama starts the 2nd Civil War, i'm heading to NY to
wipe all you free loading liberals off the face of the earth. You
elected him, you're gonna die for him. I'm a huge fan of the class
warfare Obama started. You won't be for long....

[John C TX]

On Oct 6, 5:27 pm, MZ <for...@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote:

> On Oct 6, 10:08 am, John C TX <johnctxj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > People generally find me very funny.
>

> Only Hitler would find you funny.

Good one

>
> > >and think it is amusing and just
> > > in fun.  But when anything goes back the other way they are very upset.  I
> > > do not think calling the President "the enemy" does any thing but hurt, and
> > > there are a lot of idiots who follow people who say crap like that.
>
> > Papa, sorry but some of the things you wrote about Bush in here were
> > worse & some of it he deserved but sorry if I don't get worked up
> > about HW jr.  What he said is mild compared to what many on the left
> > have said for years with rarely a backlash to their careers.
>

> Who is this Hank Williams guy?  Is that the name of the stupid robot
> that gets in the way of the score on Fox broadcasts?  I pictured him
> as more of a Paul.

He is a member of Mensa that gets football fans riled up.

[JetsLife]

On Oct 3, 9:38 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From Monday Night Football.
> \
> It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams compared
> Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>
> http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-o...

I find ESPN's firing of him hyprocritical, cowardly and disgusting. He
was merely exercising his free speech. Who of us - internally or
otherwise - haven't at one time or another compared a US president to
Hitler? He was speaking colloquially for crying out loud.

The venom which spewed towards W - Hitler was like a common phrase.
But nobody got fired for that.

Not that I like nor respect Obama, W or the office of the presidency.
One thing tho about Obama's election: the historians will decide but I
think the election of a guy who looks like non-northwestern Europeans
may - may - have provided some sort of spark in other parts of the
world ... to say we want to own our government and future v. autocracy/
dictatorship.

The Obama Administration may be most important in that perhaps it's
advanced the cause of global liberty and democracy.

[Michael]

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We have done a fair job here definign what words mean, but for my
taste, we are no closer to getting obama and hitler in the same
room :-)

[John C TX]

So he is similar to Hitler. Maybe Willliams should have called you &
embraced that.

What many Democrats (notice I didn't write left) who don't get some of
the Obama bashing from the right is is/was generated for the pain he
inflicts on small business. He has embraced big business & caused
problems for small business. This recession won't end with GE. I
laughed my ass off when he named Immelet the GE guy to head the
Economic Advisory group.

[Michael]

hitler comments are the "third rail" in the forum and manner he was
using them in. i'm all for free speach, but that just means he
should not get arrested. sometimes free speach is not fully
compatable with maintaining a public/media occupation. he's a bozo...
the right thing happened. he lost his public media job, but does not
go to gitmo for water boarding and ihe s still free to make as many
bad records and stage performances as his low life heart desires

[Michael]

some job tzar, huh ??? as i have been saying... never mind if he is a
lefty or a righty at heart... obama is a lap dog as sure as the next
prez will be. i'm not coming from the "right" or the "left" ... we
need a new classification for the people that realize we have an a-
political oligarchy... how about "above" instead of "left" or
"right" ???

[MuahMan]

Why are you so bigoted?

[Michael]

> > go to gitmo for water boarding and he is still  free to make as many

> > bad records and stage performances as his low life heart desires
>

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huh ??? where was the bigotry in that post ???

[RävNsfän ®]

"Papa Carl" <papa...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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:
: "Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message

Which conflict exactly are you refering to PC..., North vs South, or
...Black vs White ?
--
~Drew
"Talk is cheap ...lets just go play"
Johnny Unitas - Baltimore Colts

:

[Papa Carl]

"Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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Finally you say something where I completely agree..."above" is the
word...and I really think the "above" let Obama win so they could create
havoc and "take" things they wanted...you are right...left right is stupid
now and it sure does not matter what people want.

[JKConey]

"MuahMan" wrote in message
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Yeah, i hope the agents they send are from NY. That way i'll know they
are gay and pussies and can take them out with a straw and some
spitballs. When Obama starts the 2nd Civil War, i'm heading to NY to
wipe all you free loading liberals off the face of the earth. You
elected him, you're gonna die for him. I'm a huge fan of the class
warfare Obama started. You won't be for long....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Just go away.

[MZ]

On Oct 8, 11:58 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Michael" <mjd1...@verizon.net> wrote in message

Yeah, I agree with him too for a change. :)

Back to the semantics game though ... some people (referring to the
french assembly in the 1800s) consider support of the status quo to be
"right wing" and radicalism to be "left wing". This isn't an economic
characterization, but is probably not unrelated either. So, under
this alternate definition, wouldn't that also make Obama "right
wing"? As John said, the extent to which he's supported big business
is pretty damned consistent with what everyone else has done the
past...who knows how many years.

[Papa Carl]

"MZ" <for...@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote in message
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Mark, Look out your window...there are agents from Fox news hiding in the
bushes. They heard you called Obama a right winger...that is treason to
them.

[guy@nospam.net nice guy]

He didn't!

"Ray O'Hara" <raymon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> From Monday Night Football.
> \
> It seems the slightly talented living off his daddy's name Williams
> compared
> Obama to Hitler on Fox and Friends today
>
>

> http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822cec71/article/williams-mnf-opening-pulled-after-singers-hitler-reference?campaign=Twitter_news
>
>

[John C TX]

Mark, yes & no, regarding his support for big business.

He comes in with this half assed Health Care Reform & then immediately
excludes his buddies whether it is big business & unions form the
burdens he placed on with the reform. Don't get me going about how he
took many of the most expensive health care costs from big business &
dropped it in the taxpayers lap. That whole process was just a big $
shakedown by K St. I could fix it, the country would be healthier,
but I would need to a despot.

So on one hand he plays to the left with health care reform, his
attack on Wall St after he bails them out (the latest lawsuit on banks
is just plain stupidity) the mortgage stuff makes me crazy, & then he
cozies up to big business. He does have some lefties in his state
department that have some different ideas. Maybe they are right &
fomenting revolt in Arab countries is a good thing. I think like I
read Cuomo say a long time ago he has one foot on the boat & one on
the dock.

He like Clinton had an opportunity to do some smart fiscal moves that
would be good for the country long term because for years the left
wouldn't let the right do anything smart & then under Bush & even
worse under Obama, the Founding Fathers biggest fear happened. We
raided the treasury. He is far worse than Bush and I don't see the
cavalry coming with any of these idiots.

[Michael]

i'm glad to see that you and carl are getting smarter ;-)

[Michael]

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there is a solution on the horizon...

viva il duce' !!!