Pats Favored to won SB 46.
Husky
Bet365.com
iarwain
Although I believe the odds I saw were 10-1 NE, 11-1 GB.
They implied some of this was due to the Pats having two draft picks
in each of the first three rounds.
Packer fan
"iarwain" <iarw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>(rookies)
MZ
> "iarwain" <iarwai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Hard to say. They had three rookies make significant impacts this
year (McCourty, Gronkowski, and Hernandez) and only one was a first
rounder. This year they have three picks in the top 33.
mtfe...@netscape.net
Good thing we didn't deal a 3rd for Lynch :-)
Mike
mtfe...@netscape.net
Tell that to Starks and Bulaga. And Burnett and Neal might have helped
a bit. Plus Zombo and Shields played their part.
But I like Thompson's chances of picking up another contributor. Polian
helped Belichick quite a bit, and in their case, 2 heads were better than
one.
Mike
iarwain
What did they have, like 11 rushing plays in the Super Bowl?
One of the announcers noted the lack of balance and said something
like "That doesn't sound like Mike McCarthy?".
I thought has this guy watched any Packer games before the playoffs
started?
Husky
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>
> You are forgetting Spikes who could be a player but the failed drug
> test is always scary. Is it him or is it steroids.
Spikes wasn't caught taking steroids. He was taking A.D.H.D. meds w/o
clearance.
mtfe...@netscape.net
Yeah, that was funny.
The only thing I liked (other than the win, of course) was that even if
they didn't call a run, they at least had a back in there to pick up
the blitz or act as an outlet receiver. Not much empty backfield.
Mike
Husky
> advantage an amphetamine offers and the other reason is because it is
> a masking agent.
>
> Also the NCAA allows a player who fails a drug test with a
> prescription drug to show proof after the fact but only if it was
> prescribed. I imagine the NFL allows the same recourse. Why didn't
> he appeal?
Again, it wasn't steroids. To answer your question, I'll link you to
his statement. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/10/patriots-brandon-spikes-suspended-four-games/
The Inconvenient Truth
Sometimes you have to beat people about the head with the info, before
it actually sinks in.
--
MZ
That doesn't address John's concerns. If it's an ADHD med, then it's
most likely an "upper", which might arguably be considered a
performance enhancer.
Husky
I didn't say Spikes was clean, I said he wasn't using steroids. To
imply he was on steroids because he was taking an Adhd drug is a huge
leap, especially when NO steroids were detected in the drug test.
He said," You are forgetting Spikes who could be a player but the
failed drug
test is always scary. Is it him or is it steroids."
I just pointed out that there were no steroids involved.
Then he said that Adderall was a masking agent, which it isn't. So to
sum it up, he said two things which were untrue and I pointed that
out.
Husky
> > most likely an "upper", which might arguably be considered a
> > performance enhancer.
>
> prescription use of those drugs have exploded.
>
> There is also a concern that it is used to mask other drug use. I am
> not a biochemist but a friend was licensed tester for the
> international anti-doping agency-- they would call him and say show up
> in XXX, TX & test the following athletes. I don't pretend to know the
> biochemistry of the drugs but many of the banned substances are banned
> not only for their "performance enhancing" effects but also because of
> the real threat or suspected effect that it masks tests.
Then, do you have a cite that Adderall, what Spikes was taking, is a
masking agent? TIA
Dewey
a0b9b7...@n10g2000yqf.googlegroups.com:
> They're 7-1 favorites. GB is 15-2. Jets and Giants are 18-1.From
> Bet365.com
>
Pats should always be favored. Between their stretching the rules (i.e.
videotaping opponents) and the blatant favoritism they get from the
officials, they might as well be staked a 4-0 record to start. They are,
after all, "America's Team" (or so it seems watching ESPN).
--
If I were a cactus, I wouldn't need so much water.
MZ
Oh. I had just assumed that "steroids" was shorthand. I'm actually a
little surprised he spelled it right, too.
eric
> > > >(rookies)
>
> > Hard to say. They had three rookies make significant impacts this
> > year (McCourty, Gronkowski, and Hernandez) and only one was a first
> > rounder. This year they have three picks in the top 33.
>
> test is always scary. Is it him or is it steroids.
>
> you have a repeat of 2009.
His test failure wasn't for steroids. It was for a stimulant.
number6
>
> His test failure wasn't for steroids. It was for a stimulant.
Isn't that what Sanchez is getting bad press for ??
papa.carl44
"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That doesn't address John's concerns. If it's an ADHD med, then it's
> most likely an "upper", which might arguably be considered a
> performance enhancer.
MZ, both ADHD meds are used as speed. I believe that in MLB the
prescription use of those drugs have exploded.
There is also a concern that it is used to mask other drug use. I am
not a biochemist but a friend was licensed tester for the
international anti-doping agency-- they would call him and say show up
in XXX, TX & test the following athletes. I don't pretend to know the
biochemistry of the drugs but many of the banned substances are banned
not only for their "performance enhancing" effects but also because of
the real threat or suspected effect that it masks tests.
NO.....methylphenidate or any of the similar drugs have a very specific
action in people who should be using them and when it is clinically
prescribed, in others they act like any other member of the stimulant family
of amphetamine like drugs. They don't mask the use of steroids...but, there
are a lot of other ways to mask steroid use...even using pre-steroids that
combine in the body can be difficult to trace. The test to find steroid use
is very expensive and for that reason is sometimes not done. People use
ritalin type drugs to lose weight, fight lethargy, increase energy,
counteract the use of depressant drugs...lots of ways to abuse them. A LOT
of diuretics, that an athlete should not need to take, not a healthy person
anyway...can be used to purge and mask the use of steroids, then I suppose
some stimulants might be used to enhance the action of the purging
substances. An athlete taking ritalin should have to show a history of the
condition....otherwise it is probably BS.
Kurgan Gringioni
"MZ" <for...@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote in message
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:: That doesn't address John's concerns. If it's an ADHD med, then it's
:: most likely an "upper", which might arguably be considered a
:: performance enhancer.
It's not a big deal. All he needs to do is take a test for ADHD and get a
prescription.
Harlan Lachman
"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgrin...@gmail.com> wrote:
Kurgan, FWIW, my teenage daughter was just diagnosed with ADHD. There is
no blood test or definitive test to prove the diagnosis. In fact, while
the learning expert diagnosed it, the therapist disagreed. And, it is
the type of diagnosis that is more of a determination along a continuum
than a yes-no.
My suspicion is that, in this case the therapist is wrong, and the
expert correct but the NFL would have a harder time with allowing
scripts for ADHD than for diabetes or asthma.
H
Kurgan Gringioni
"Harlan Lachman" <har...@eeivt.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ij8msu$38b$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgrin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "MZ" <for...@mdz.no-ip.org> wrote in message
>> news:02701051-e87d-47c2...@t19g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> :: That doesn't address John's concerns. If it's an ADHD med, then it's
>> :: most likely an "upper", which might arguably be considered a
>> :: performance enhancer.
>>
>>
>> It's not a big deal. All he needs to do is take a test for ADHD and get a
>> prescription.
>
> Kurgan, FWIW, my teenage daughter was just diagnosed with ADHD. There is
> no blood test or definitive test to prove the diagnosis. In fact, while
> the learning expert diagnosed it, the therapist disagreed.
<snip>
I'm sure he could find someone with the authority to diagnose who would give
him the desired result.