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Ray OHara

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Apr 22, 2010, 9:47:49 PM4/22/10
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fuck me.
the pats have some major holes. how about filling onme with a quality guy.


CalC

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Apr 22, 2010, 9:52:38 PM4/22/10
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On Apr 22, 9:47 pm, "Ray OHara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> fuck me.
> the pats have some major holes. how about filling onme with a quality guy.

Easy Knute O'Hara they traded down 2 picks....

Len

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Apr 22, 2010, 10:02:23 PM4/22/10
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"CalC" <calcar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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And just traded down again.

CalC

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Apr 22, 2010, 10:02:22 PM4/22/10
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On Apr 22, 9:52 pm, CalC <calcarpent...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Apr 22, 9:47 pm, "Ray OHara" <raymond-oh...@hotmaeil.com> wrote:
>
> > fuck me.
> > the pats have some major holes. how about filling onme with a quality guy.
>
> Easy Knute O'Hara they traded down 2 picks....

Even better they trade 5 spots down...will likely still get the guy
they want plus in total they grab a free 3rd round pick.

CalC

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Apr 22, 2010, 10:42:25 PM4/22/10
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On Apr 22, 10:02 pm, "Len" <lbertr...@gwi.net> wrote:
> "CalC" <calcarpent...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

For the guy they picked they could have traded down 4 more times
too.......I don't like passing on Kindle at all....this guy had better
be a player because forget Bellichick's picks his LB non picks that
he's passed on have proven to be a pretty decent bunch the last 3
years and Kindle could join that group.

Ray OHara

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Apr 22, 2010, 10:50:28 PM4/22/10
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Yeah a CB . a good one is hard to find. this guy better pan out.
I was sure they saw Kindle was safe for them. I thought LBs were a need,


CalC

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Apr 22, 2010, 11:01:04 PM4/22/10
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On Apr 22, 10:50 pm, "Ray OHara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "CalC" <calcarpent...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:72c40b57-b862-4fd7...@j17g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 22, 10:02 pm, "Len" <lbertr...@gwi.net> wrote:
>
> > "CalC" <calcarpent...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:f9aa5ff7-b04f-4fa3...@d34g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Apr 22, 9:47 pm, "Ray OHara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> fuck me.
> > >> the pats have some major holes. how about filling onme with a quality
> > >> guy.
>
> > > Easy Knute O'Hara they traded down 2 picks....
>
> > And just traded down again.
>
> For the guy they picked they could have traded down 4 more times
> too.......I don't like passing on Kindle at all....this guy had better
> be a player because forget Bellichick's picks his LB non picks that
> he's passed on have proven to be a pretty decent bunch the last 3
> years and Kindle could join that group.
>
> =======================================================================
>
> Yeah a CB . a good one is hard to find. this guy better pan out.
> I was sure they saw Kindle was safe for them. I thought LBs were a need,

and we have plenty of CB ...even if he moves to Safety as suggested
we've got that pretty well covered too.....

Ray OHara

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Apr 22, 2010, 11:14:42 PM4/22/10
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"CalC" <calcar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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BB had better be brilliant in the next few rounds.


Remy McSwain

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Apr 23, 2010, 1:05:05 AM4/23/10
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I don't like this pick at all. Reminds me of the Canty pick years ago.
With all of their needs, they pick a special teamer? The Pats almost always
pick mutts who only finally pan out in the last year of their contracts.
It's rediculous.


CalC

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Apr 23, 2010, 7:10:21 AM4/23/10
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On Apr 23, 1:05 am, "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:

To me I love picking great athletes but where does he play EVEN if
he's great..you have like 5 corners and 3 safeties as is.

Remy McSwain

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Apr 23, 2010, 8:09:40 AM4/23/10
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In
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I wouldn't mind so much if he was very highly touted. By the time
he'd be ready to staart, there'd be room. But I can't see any
appreciable difference between this guy and what they could've had
in the 2nd or 3rd round.


Julio

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Apr 23, 2010, 11:30:57 AM4/23/10
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In article <RIednfyhqpDit0zW...@giganews.com>

"Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't like this pick at all. Reminds me of the Canty pick years ago.
> With all of their needs, they pick a special teamer? The Pats almost always
> pick mutts who only finally pan out in the last year of their contracts.
> It's rediculous.

The Pats have a mediocre backfield. The Pats almost always finish
first in their division so they don't get many high picks. The last
thing close to a superstar they got was Asante Samuel, he was a
fourth round pick. It's all a total crapshoot, better to have lots
of picks in the lower rounds if you don't finish last in the league.


J.

Remy McSwain

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Apr 23, 2010, 5:11:03 PM4/23/10
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In news:17a862d9bafce894...@rip.ax.lt,

I agree that much of it is speculative, but some are better than
others at maximizing their chances for success, and I dont think the
Pats are at the top of that heap.


Ron W.

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Apr 23, 2010, 5:27:23 PM4/23/10
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"Remy McSwain" <Paradi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In fact, over the last five years, 31% of Pats draft picks are still on the
roster, ranked 32nd in the league.
>
>

Remy McSwain

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Apr 23, 2010, 5:39:24 PM4/23/10
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In news:hqt3br$qu7$1...@news.eternal-september.org,

What do you mean by that ranking?


Ron W.

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Apr 23, 2010, 6:56:17 PM4/23/10
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"Remy McSwain" <Paradi...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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I mean that 31 other teams have a better percentage of their draft picks
actually making the team.
>
>

Husky

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Apr 23, 2010, 7:28:03 PM4/23/10
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On Apr 23, 6:56 pm, "Ron W." <roncha...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:DeSdnU5KxsoQjk_W...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> > Innews:hqt3br$qu7$1...@news.eternal-september.org,
> > Ron W. <roncha...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:E6-dnUtmRLx6kU_W...@giganews.com...
> >>> Innews:17a862d9bafce894...@rip.ax.lt,
> >>> Julio <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> In article <RIednfyhqpDit0zWnZ2dnUVZ_oSdn...@giganews.com>

> >>>> "Remy McSwain" <Paradis70...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> I don't like this pick at all.  Reminds me of the Canty pick
> >>>>> years ago. With all of their needs, they pick a special
> >>>>> teamer? The Pats almost always pick mutts who only finally
> >>>>> pan out in the last year of their contracts. It's rediculous.
>
> >>>> The Pats have a mediocre backfield. The Pats almost always
> >>>> finish first in their division so they don't get many high
> >>>> picks. The last thing close to a superstar they got was Asante
> >>>> Samuel, he was a fourth round pick. It's all a total
> >>>> crapshoot, better to have lots of picks in the lower rounds if
> >>>> you don't finish last in the league.
>
> >>> I agree that much of it is speculative, but some are better
> >>> than others at maximizing their chances for success, and I dont
> >>> think the Pats are at the top of that heap.
>
> >> In fact, over the last five years, 31% of Pats draft picks are
> >> still on the roster, ranked 32nd in the league.
>
> > What do you mean by that ranking?
>
> I mean that 31 other teams have a better percentage of their draft picks
> actually making the team.
>
>
A better percentage how, Better at retaining draft picks or at
picking players who develop into NFL players?

Julio

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Apr 24, 2010, 9:18:35 AM4/24/10
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"Ron W." <roncha...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> In fact, over the last five years, 31% of Pats draft picks are still on the
> roster, ranked 32nd in the league.

And which teams were the best? What were the other teams that were
poor pickers? What's the relationship between the Pats season ranking
and their pick? Not too many teams have finished first in their division
many years in a row, so not many teams always get lower draft choices.
How did the Pats do on their first round picks?


J.

Ray OHara

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Apr 24, 2010, 10:22:45 PM4/24/10
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"Julio" <hoolio3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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maybe the other teams just keep more of the bums.


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