Healthcare Is Not A Right
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all.
According to the Founding Fathers, we are not born with a right to a
trip to Disneyland, or a meal at McDonald's, or a kidney dialysis (nor
with the 18th-century equivalent of these things). We have certain
specific rights—and only these.
Why only these? Observe that all legitimate rights have one thing in
common: they are rights to action, not to rewards from other people.
The American rights impose no obligations on other people, merely the
negative obligation to leave you alone. The system guarantees you the
chance to work for what you want—not to be given it without effort by
somebody else.
The right to life, e.g., does not mean that your neighbors have to
feed and clothe you; it means you have the right to earn your food and
clothes yourself, if necessary by a hard struggle, and that no one can
forcibly stop your struggle for these things or steal them from you if
and when you have achieved them. In other words: you have the right to
act, and to keep the results of your actions, the products you make,
to keep them or to trade them with others, if you wish. But you have
no right to the actions or products of others, except on terms to
which they voluntarily agree.
To take one more example: the right to the pursuit of happiness is
precisely that: the right to the pursuit—to a certain type of action
on your part and its result—not to any guarantee that other people
will make you happy or even try to do so. Otherwise, there would be no
liberty in the country: if your mere desire for something, anything,
imposes a duty on other people to satisfy you, then they have no
choice in their lives, no say in what they do, they have no liberty,
they cannot pursue their happiness. Your "right" to happiness at their
expense means that they become rightless serfs, i.e., your slaves.
Your right to anything at others' expense means that they become
rightless.
That is why the U.S. system defines rights as it does, strictly as the
rights to action. This was the approach that made the U.S. the first
truly free country in all world history—and, soon afterwards, as a
result, the greatest country in history, the richest and the most
powerful. It became the most powerful because its view of rights made
it the most moral. It was the country of individualism and personal
independence.
Today, however, we are seeing the rise of principled immorality in
this country. We are seeing a total abandonment by the intellectuals
and the politicians of the moral principles on which the U.S. was
founded. We are seeing the complete destruction of the concept of
rights. The original American idea has been virtually wiped out,
ignored as if it had never existed. The rule now is for politicians to
ignore and violate men's actual rights, while arguing about a whole
list of rights never dreamed of in this country's founding documents—
rights which require no earning, no effort, no action at all on the
part of the recipient.
mr dude
Husky
Right, just let them all die, or just endure their maladies, if they
can't afford treatment. It's Social Darwinism. If you can't pay for
medical services, you shouldn't get them. That goes for kids too.
Polarhound
***BZZZZZZZZTTT***
Argument Fallacy Type attempted: Straw Man.
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a
person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or
misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has
the following pattern:
1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
3. Person B attacks position Y.
4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted
version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the
position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of
a person to hurt the person.
Deadmeat
I guess only tax breaks for the rich is a right.
Polarhound
Yes, that is a very fine example of a Straw Man argument as well, thank
you for showing us your comprehension of today's lesson!
Husky
So, what happens to the people who don't have coverage or money?
Answer that and see if it truly is fallacious. TIA
And why the non sequitur response? Are you the board monitor or just
think you are?
P...@yahoo.com
>>> to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all.
have "life."
So if you came accross somoene in the street having a heart
attack you'd ask them for their BC/BS card? And if they didn't
have one you'd let them die?
>>> Why only these? Observe that all legitimate rights have one thing in
>>> common: they are rights to action, not to rewards from other people.
>>> The American rights impose no obligations on other people, merely the
>>> negative obligation to leave you alone. The system guarantees you the
>>> chance to work for what you want—not to be given it without effort by
>>> somebody else.
Unless you're have rich parents who left all that money to you so you
dont have to work a day in your life.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> So, what happens to the people who don't have coverage or money?
> Answer that and see if it truly is fallacious.
They should have made better life decisions. The poor are poor for a
reason.
As for treatment, there is treatment already available for the poor
(charity hospitals, emergency rooms and the like).
You seem to think that I am responsible for your family's medical
care??
mr dude (hates Commies)
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> I guess only tax breaks for the rich is a right.
The "tax cuts for the rich" argument is the most sophomoric ever!
Bush tax cuts were across the board! EVERYONE got their taxes cut!
Yet some ignorant fools call it tax cuts for the rich to score
political points.
mr dude (hates ignorance)
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> Unless you're have rich parents who left all that money to you so you
> dont have to work a day in your life.
86% of all "rich" Americans are rich because they earned it!
They went to college, worked hard, abstained from booze and drugs and
worked eighty hour work weeks.
Yet you seem to think that when they die 55% of their estate should go
to the government to redistribute??
When you die don't you think you have the right to give your largess
to your own family??
mr dude
Husky
Like losing their job or business, med. ins, and going through their
savings, then getting ill and needing medical care? Or a child being
born into it?
The methods you mentioned actually don't cover the poor's medical
care. Do you think that they can afford or obligated to provide free
care? Are you a fan of giving away someone else's service, free of
charge? Sure sounds like it.
And I don't think you're responsible for anything in my regard, nor do
I require anything from you. I'm just asking what should be done with
people needing medical care they need and can't afford? Just asking
because I don't have the answer and you seem to have all the answers.
TIA
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> And I don't think you're responsible for anything in my regard, nor do
> I require anything from you. I'm just asking what should be done with
> people needing medical care they need and can't afford?
Surely food is a more basic need than medical care.
I mean we cannot live without food can we??
So the government should take over food from the "greedy"
supermarkets?
The government should allocate food to the people that cannot afford
food?
Should we have "equal food" to "level the playing field"???
The government should take food away from the productive and give it
to the unproductive??
Shelter is a basic need also.
Should the government take income from the willing to work people and
give it to people sitting on the porch and drinking beer??
We should take all the income from the producers and allocate their
income to the "unfortunate".
Who are the "unfortunate"?? They were supposed to be given a fortune
but were too late to get it???
The "unfortunate" are people who made bad choices in life and now want
the responsible people to pay for their mistakes.
mr dude (whoops Lib ass again)
Polarhound
> So, what happens to the people who don't have coverage or money?
They get better service than I do with my high deductible plan/HSA
(which is about to be taxed into oblivion as well)
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
It is because you are greedy!!!
You are an evil Capitalist!!!!
mr dude (wears a Che t-shirt)
clouddreamer
Until they get diagnosed with something expensive. Then they get sent
home to die.
..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
Husky
Your non responsive ramblings aside, can you answer the simple
question, what should be done with people needing medical care they
can't afford? You've said what shouldn't be done, but that wasn't
what was asked. Is it that you won't or that you can't?
I showed you examples of situations where it wasn't as you
stereotyped, "bad choices." Perhaps when you go to the mop closet at
Harvard to start your day and find a lock on it with a note saying,
Mr, Dude, your pitiful services are no longer needed. All your
benefits are terminated. The nice security guard will walk you out,
See you. Would that be a bad choice on your part?
Talentless, unskilled common labor as yourself are a dime a dozen and
because "your position" has been passed on from generation to
generation you thought it would always be there for you and yours. Now
Dude has no job, no money and no benefits, despite 4 generations of
menial service at Harvard, what would you do if you need protracted,
non emergency treatment? TIA
As you were so kind to offer the giving away of others services and
expertise, it has been reported that your Communist Party membership
has been renewed, Free of Charge.
Husky
Like Dude said, you must've made some bad choices.
Deadmeat
I really don't give a shit as to what you think it is.
Deadmeat
Once again this buffoon posts something as his own, even though everyone
one knows he cut and pasted it from some right wing website.
Deadmeat
>>>> Now our only rights, the American viewpoint continues, are the rights
>>>> to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all.
> But then if you don't have the right to health care then you don't
> have "life."
>
> So if you came accross somoene in the street having a heart
> attack you'd ask them for their BC/BS card? And if they didn't
> have one you'd let them die?
>
Remember, Repugs only care about kids until they are born. After that,
they're on their own.
ZZH...@yahoo.com
du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 25, 11:30 am, Deadmeat <no...@home.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I guess only tax breaks for the rich is a right.
>
>The "tax cuts for the rich" argument is the most sophomoric ever!
>
>Bush tax cuts were across the board! EVERYONE got their taxes cut!
>
Not here. Bush cut the taxes and Romney increased taxes
to compensate.
A tax = A fee.
A fee = A tax.
>mr dude (hates ignorance)
Then you hate Sara Palin and George W. Bush?
>
>
ZZH...@yahoo.com
du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 25, 1:58 pm, Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So, what happens to the people who don't have coverage or money?
>> Answer that and see if it truly is fallacious.
>
>They should have made better life decisions. The poor are poor for a
>reason.
Yeah they are poor because they weren't born with a silver spoon
in their mouth like George W. Bush.
P...@yahoo.com
du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 25, 2:59 pm, P...@YAHOO.COM wrote:
>
>>
>> Unless you're have rich parents who left all that money to you so you
>> dont have to work a day in your life.
>
>86% of all "rich" Americans are rich because they earned it!
Baloney. Many of them got that way without having work a day
in their life while mom and dad handed it to them..
>When you die don't you think you have the right to give your largess
>to your own family??
IMHO when you die you should be taxed 100%.
You should be prohibited from leaving a anything to your kids.
Those kids should have to learn what it is like to have
to work..
clouddreamer
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:17:17 -0700 (PDT), "mr
> du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 25, 1:58 pm, Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, what happens to the people who don't have coverage or money?
>>> Answer that and see if it truly is fallacious.
>> They should have made better life decisions. The poor are poor for a
>> reason.
> Yeah they are poor because they weren't born with a silver spoon
> in their mouth like George W. Bush.
Wow. The ignorance of Dude is mind-boggling. Does he honestly think hard
work is all one needs to be rich??? Is he that out of touch with reality???
Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> You should be prohibited from leaving a anything to your kids.
> Those kids should have to learn what it is like to have
> to work..
I bet Christmas morning at your house must really suck.
mr dude
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
You've said what shouldn't be done, but that wasn't
> what was asked. Is it that you won't or that you can't?
My honest answer is that I don't care. It's not my problem. I couldn't
give a damn.You cannot legislate compassion.
The cold hard truth is that we humans are animals and like all animals
we eventually die.
If your car breaks down I don't want the jackboot of the Imperial
federal government through threat of force take my income and give it
to you to fix your car. I don't want shared responsibility.
Your family is your problem and your responsibility. If you Libs were
as compassionate as you claim, I am sure you all will willingly would
pitch in and help every sick kid in the United States. Oh, wait a
minute, you Libs donate FAR less to charity than conservatives! You
want to force others to pay for you. You are looters and moochers.
Why did Obamatard lower the allowable deductible for charitable
donations when first coming into office? He wanted to make the
government the charities. That was part of his grand Obamunistic
society. He has failed. If his health care plan isn't repealed, it
will financially destroy this country. Currently, 85% of Americans are
happy with heir health care plans. In four years that percentage will
be zero!
So you can go live in your drug induced fairy land utopia, just leave
the rest of us alone.
mr dude
Husky
Thanks for your honesty! So, you agree with my facetious earlier
post. That says it all. Based upon what you said you're not a
Conservative, you're an Anarchist. While we're at it why don't we do
away with Fire departments? Who needs to be paying these guys, 24/7,
to wait around so they can put out some other guy's fire?
So, in the end, who's going to be responsible for the disposal of
these "under performers" bodies?
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> Thanks for your honesty! So, you agree with my facetious earlier
> post. That says it all. Based upon what you said you're not a
> Conservative, you're an Anarchist.
No I am a Libertarian. If you want to pay voluntarily for fire
protection then you have that right.
The government has no right to force me to pay for fire protection!
mr dude (as the government has no right to force me to pay for social
security, to pay for affirmative action, no right to force me to pay
for food stamps, no right to force me to pay for a federal department
of education etc. etc.)
What about the tenth amendment confuses you?????
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> So, in the end, who's going to be responsible for the disposal of
> these "under performers" bodies?
Organ donation can be very profitable.
mr dude
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> IMHO when you die you should be taxed 100%.
Your love of government is disturbing.
I bet you fantasize of a giant government cock that you would love to
suck all day long.
mr dude (not that there is anything wrong with that homo)
Husky
be like a parts center. And no longer will they have to outsource to
3rd World Countries for Organs.
You can sell blood for money, too.
Husky
<foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 9:42 pm, Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for your honesty! So, you agree with my facetious earlier
> > post. That says it all. Based upon what you said you're not a
> > Conservative, you're an Anarchist.
>
> No I am a Libertarian. If you want to pay voluntarily for fire
> protection then you have that right.
Damn representative Democracy.
>
> The government has no right to force me to pay for fire protection!
>
> mr dude (as the government has no right to force me to pay for social
> security, to pay for affirmative action, no right to force me to pay
> for food stamps, no right to force me to pay for a federal department
> of education etc. etc.)
>
> What about the tenth amendment confuses you?????
You're confusing me for a proponent. You're mistaking questions for
criticism. You have a great platform to run on; "Let 'em die, we
need the parts!" It could help revive the economy, having people
coming here from all around the Globe looking for replacement parts.
As most of our manufacturing base has been sent overseas or south of
the border, by our industrialists, we could sure use a infusion of
foreign cash, which isn't borrowed.
What does the 10th amendment have to do with anything I've said?
zz...@zz.com
>> happy with heir health care plans.
it.
A1...@gmail.com
du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>No I am a Libertarian. If you want to pay voluntarily for fire
>protection then you have that right.
So you're content to let your neighbors house burn to the ground.
Never mind that it might take your house with it.
>The government has no right to force me to pay for fire protection!
>
>mr dude (as the government has no right to force me to pay for social
>security, to pay for affirmative action, no right to force me to pay
>for food stamps, no right to force me to pay for a federal department
>of education etc. etc.)
So you would just let those people starve?
P...@yahoo.com
du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 26, 2:09 pm, P...@YAHOO.COM wrote:
>
>>
>> IMHO when you die you should be taxed 100%.
>
>Your love of government is disturbing.
As bad as government is private corporations are much more corrupt/
morrally bankrupt.
clouddreamer
Of course, that's Americans who have a health care plan. What about
those that don't?
P...@yahoo.com
du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> IMHO when you die you should be taxed 100%.
>
>Your love of government is disturbing.
Never mind that those big corporations will
screw you every chance they get.
clouddreamer
Isn't it funny how they voice this fear of big government...but never
seem to mind big business.
And funny how those that voice discontent over any form of government
control don't move to Somalia. I mean, hey, they don't have a government.
Course, after a week in Somalia, they'd come crawling and begging to get
back into the US.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> What does the 10th amendment have to do with anything I've said?
As a Libertarian, I find it necessary to include the tenth amendment
reference in every post whether it is relevant or not.
mr dude (what part of the tenth amendment don't you understand?)
<------ see!
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> Isn't it funny how they voice this fear of big government...but never
> seem to mind big business.
Big business doesn't take money out of my paycheck unless I give it
voluntarily.
Big business can't make me buy their products like Obama care is
forcing us (with the threat of imprisonment) to do.
mr dude
A1...@gmail.com
Aren't you just full of compassion.
So when you're 65, too old to be hired we'll just
watch as you starve to death since you just
want to let people starve to death.
>mr dude
P...@yahoo.com
du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Isn't it funny how they voice this fear of big government...but never
>> seem to mind big business.
>
>Big business doesn't take money out of my paycheck unless I give it
>voluntarily.
cheated you out of money you rightfully earned?
You've never had a company steal money from your
pension plan?
MBD
> to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all.
Wrong. You have a right to healthcare. You just don't have a right to
free or even cheap healthcare.
MBD
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> So when you're 65, too old to be hired we'll just
> watch as you starve to death since you just
> want to let people starve to death.
>
> >mr dude
I will not starve to death!!!
See I have this thing called "social security".
I have been giving my money to the Imperial federal government (the
thing that if it were a man you would be fellating daily) and they
have been investing my money and saving it for me.
When I turn 65 they are gonna start giving it back to me.
mr dude (in awe how some people can worship the government so much
seeing as they have stolen every penny from social security)
Polarhound
> On 7/25/2010 12:11 PM, Polarhound wrote:
>> On 7/25/2010 11:30 AM, Deadmeat wrote:
>>> On 7/25/2010 10:29 AM, Polarhound wrote:
>>>> On 7/25/2010 7:30 AM, Husky wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 24, 10:46 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, just let them all die, or just endure their maladies, if they
>>>>> can't afford treatment. It's Social Darwinism. If you can't pay for
>>>>> medical services, you shouldn't get them. That goes for kids too.
>>>>
>>>> ***BZZZZZZZZTTT***
>>>>
>>>> Argument Fallacy Type attempted: Straw Man.
>>>>
>>>> The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a
>>>> person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or
>>>> misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has
>>>> the following pattern:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Person A has position X.
>>>> 2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
>>>> 3. Person B attacks position Y.
>>>> 4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
>>>>
>>>> This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted
>>>> version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the
>>>> position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor
>>>> drawing of
>>>> a person to hurt the person.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess only tax breaks for the rich is a right.
>>
>> you for showing us your comprehension of today's lesso
>
>
> I really don't give a shit as to what you think it is.
>
Truth sucks, doesn't it.
Ray OHara
"Polarhound" <polar...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Truth sucks, doesn't it.
what do you know about the truth?
all you do is post Glenn Beck's lies and then you turtle when that is
pointed out.
Polarhound
DOUBLE BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!
Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule
Also Known as: Appeal to Mockery, The Horse Laugh.
Description of Appeal to Ridicule
The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is
substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has
the following form:
1. X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically
directed at the claim).
2. Therefore claim C is false.
Fallacy: Guilt By Association
Also Known as: Bad Company Fallacy, Company that You Keep Fallacy
Description of Guilt By Association
Guilt by Association is a fallacy in which a person rejects a claim
simply because it is pointed out that people she dislikes accept the
claim. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:
1. It is pointed out that people person A does not like accept claim P.
2. Therefore P is false
Polarhound
> Isn't it funny how they voice this fear of big government...but never
> seem to mind big business.
1. The bigger a business is, the MORE PEOPLE IT EMPLOYS.
2. The more people it employs, the MORE MONEY THAT IS INJECTED INTO THE
ECONOMY.
3. The more money that is injected into the economy, the MORE JOBS THAT
ARE CREATED.
4. The more jobs that are created, the MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYED,
since other people need to work to create the goods and services for the
other people to buy. This makes small businesses GROW BIGGER.
5. Return to point 1.
clouddreamer
Well, that point went well over your head.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
.
>
> Well, that point went well over your head.
Stick to the global warming scam.
If that fails try a three card monte scam on a seedy city street.
mr dude
galen...@yahoo.com
> its view of rights made it the most moral.
This country has no more claim to morality than any other country. Its
pretty funny that people actually parrot out that the US is somehow a
moral country. This country is just as sick as the rest of the world.
--
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galen...@yahoo.com
Does the government have the right to make you pay for the huge military
complex? Because your man Bush, certainly made sure to take advantage
of the first.
Do you feel like your money should go towards care for the wounded
soldiers? They made their own choices, correct?
galen...@yahoo.com
> On 7/25/2010 2:59 PM, P...@YAHOO.COM wrote:
>>>>> Now our only rights, the American viewpoint continues, are the rights
>>>>> to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all.
>> But then if you don't have the right to health care then you don't
>> have "life."
>>
>> So if you came accross somoene in the street having a heart
>> attack you'd ask them for their BC/BS card? And if they didn't
>> have one you'd let them die?
>
>
>>
> Remember, Repugs only care about kids until they are born. After that,
> they're on their own.
I miss GC.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
.
>
> Do you feel like your money should go towards care for the wounded
> soldiers? They made their own choices, correct?
How does it feel to be the king of Imbecile???
The Constitution provides for the common defense of the citizens.
Please don't tell me you thought that this was a clever retort to my
post????
Please tell me you have something more than phone calls and foot
lockers???
mr dude
Deadmeat
When I actually hear the truth from you, maybe it will. I doubt it
however, as you wouldn't know the truth as long as you keep parroting
whatever Faux news tells you to.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> This country has no more claim to morality than any other country. Its
> pretty funny that people actually parrot out that the US is somehow a
> moral country. This country is just as sick as the rest of the world.
>
> --
> Galen Boyer
-
You can't legislate morality.
mr dude
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> When I actually hear the truth from you, maybe it will. I doubt it
> however, as you wouldn't know the truth as long as you keep parroting
> whatever Faux news tells you to.
You want the truth?
You can't handle the truth!!
Son, we live in a world that has healthcare, and that healthcare has
to be guarded by men with rights. Whose gonna do it? You? You,
Deadmeat? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly
fathom. You weep for Obama Care, and you curse the Libertarians. You
have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know.
That Obama Care while tragic, probably kills grandmas. And my
existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves Grandma.
You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk
about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall.
We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the
backbone of a life spent defending something
. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the
inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the
blanket of the very healthcare freedom that I provide, and then
questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just
said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up
a doctors clipboard, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn
what you think you are entitled to.
mr dude (why do I feel like I was set up????)
galen...@yahoo.com
Hilarious. You pontificate that our country is more "moral" than
others. It ain't.
Its just that people with morals vote for legislation with morals.
Hence healthcare for all. And, yes, I expect you to pay your share, and
I don't give a shit if you don't like it.
Deadmeat
> "mr du...@harvarduniversity.edu"<fost...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Jul 29, 8:41 pm, galen_bo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> This country has no more claim to morality than any other country. Its
>>> pretty funny that people actually parrot out that the US is somehow a
>>> moral country. This country is just as sick as the rest of the world.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Galen Boyer
>> -
>>
>> You can't legislate morality.
>
> Hilarious. You pontificate that our country is more "moral" than
> others. It ain't.
>
I would say it isn't AS moral as a lot of other countries.
Greatest country in the world? Yeah right...
Nunya Bidnits
galen...@yahoo.com <galen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do you feel like your money should go towards care for the wounded
> soldiers? They made their own choices, correct?
Do you feel your money should go towards a public flogging in stocks on
charges of defaming the office of village idiot for Mr. Doof? He made his
own choices too...
Just sayin'...
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> Greatest country in the world? Yeah right...
Finally got a Libtard to say what we all know - Libtards hate
America!!!!
Busted!!
mr dude
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
september.invalid> wrote:
Mr. Doof? He made his
> own choices too...
My choices do not demand that the jack booted Imperial federal
government take away your hard earned wages and forcibly through the
threat of imprisonment give them to me!
Use wisely your power of choice.
mr dude
galen...@yahoo.com
> On Jul 30, 5:15 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
> september.invalid> wrote:
> Mr. Doof? He made his
>> own choices too...
>
>
> My choices do not demand that the jack booted Imperial federal
> government take away your hard earned wages and forcibly through the
> threat of imprisonment give them to me!
If you aren't willing to give at least some of your hard-earned wages to
help someone in need, then you should be in jail.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> If you aren't willing to give at least some of your hard-earned wages to
> help someone in need, then you should be in jail.
>
> --
> Galen Boyer
If someone in jail demands your hard earned wages then you should be
jailed!!!
The "less fortunate" have no right to your productivity
Why do you hate people to be be "self reliant"???
If you "care" so much why are so many people in need??
You are such a hypocrite!!
Obama hates you!!!
mr dude
MuahMan
>
> IMHO when you die you should be taxed 100%.
>
> You should be prohibited from leaving a anything to your kids.
> Those kids should have to learn what it is like to have
> to work..
That this is the Democrat way of thinking is beyond scary. Imagine you
work your ass off and manage to bank 2 million in cash. Then at the
age of 45 you get hit by a bus. They Democrats want to take 100% of
your money for themselves. Apparently the "compasionate" Democrats are
fine with your wife and children being tossed to the street, all of
your hardwork for nothing. I just can't even wrap my head around the
Democratic way of thinking. I simply cannot comprehend wanting to be
entirely dependent on the government for all your needs. How do people
like Ray even tie their shoelaces, I mean if he's too stupid to work
and raise a family does he even deserve to live. Why should others be
punished and forced to pay for his willful laziness and stupidity?
I'm sorry there is no way this country can be saved until we have
another Civil War, Conservatives and Liberals need to duke it out for
the land. I already know which side will win.
Husky
<mutt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Apparently the "compasionate" Democrats are
> fine with your wife and children being tossed to the street, all of
> your hardwork for nothing.
Oh the irony. Now that they're out on the street, your belief system
says, leave them there, let them die there, they made bad choices,
they're not my problem, etc.
Hey Sparky, if there is any violence, may you be the first victim, you
morally bankrupt asshole. Now go play Russian Roulette with an
automatic.
Have you got anymore 9/11 jokes, scumbag? GFY!
P...@yahoo.com
wrote:
>> IMHO when you die you should be taxed 100%.
>>
>> You should be prohibited from leaving a anything to your kids.
>> Those kids should have to learn what it is like to have
>> to work..
>
>That this is the Democrat way of thinking is beyond scary.
What is beyond scary is too many snot nosed kids inherit millions
of dollars from mom and dad, never have to work a day in their
lives, and then bitch and moan when they people who work
for them in the company mom and dad gave them want to
be paid more than pennies a day.
>Imagine you
>work your ass off and manage to bank 2 million in cash.
Except that too may of those snot nosed kids never worked a
day in their life..
Mom and dad gave it to them on a silver platter.
>Then at the
>age of 45 you get hit by a bus. They Democrats want to take 100% of
>your money for themselves. Apparently the "compasionate" Democrats are
>fine with your wife and children being tossed to the street, all of
>your hardwork for nothing.
If the republicans had their way you'd work 45 hours a week,
52 weeks a year and get paid pennies a day.
Husky
Net<mutt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 1:55 pm, Husky <cyns...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 2, 1:21 pm, MuahMan the biggest POS on the Net<mutt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Apparently the "compasionate" Democrats are
>
> > > fine with your wife and children being tossed to the street, all of
> > > your hardwork for nothing.
>
> > Oh the irony. Now that they're out on the street, your belief system
> > says, leave them there, let them die there, they made bad choices,
>
> and saved money to take care of their family. The only bad choices
> anyone made really is to let Democrats live to steal their money.
> Really the slaughter of 70 million Democrats will solved EVERY SINGLE
> one of our nations problems.
The depths of your paranoia and idiocy are truly remarkable. You
blame the Dems for their being out of work, and for stealing their
money, but nary a peep about how their positions were outsourced by
the companies they worked for or by greedy Wall St types who raped
their retirement funds.
Don't underestimate yourself, you're not just any idiot!
D/
> 52 weeks a year and get paid pennies a day.
>
If the progressives had their way, you'd work 45 hours a week, 52 weeks a
year, and get paid pennies a day and the government would take it away from
you.
See how easy it is to make things up? I've noticed a regular pattern from
the progressives in this group. Projection, accusation, then make up facts
to suit the blather. Oh, and then <plonk> anyone who doesn't bow to the
progressive "moral superiority." How sad.
OT: Welker looks ready to play this season. What a remarkable comeback from
a career-threatening injury! How much pressure will be taken off of Moss by
having the Welker threat on the field? It could also make for an early
emergence of Tate as an impact player. Of course, with 6 WRs, may changes
can take place before the season starts.
P...@yahoo.com
>> If the republicans had their way you'd work 45 hours a week,
>> 52 weeks a year and get paid pennies a day.
>>
>
>If the progressives had their way, you'd work 45 hours a week, 52 weeks a
>year, and get paid pennies a day and the government would take it away from
>you.
>
>See how easy it is to make things up? I've noticed a regular pattern from
>the progressives in this group. Projection, accusation, then make up facts
>to suit the blather. Oh, and then <plonk> anyone who doesn't bow to the
>progressive "moral superiority." How sad.
>.
You do realize businesses in the US of A hire illegal aliens for a
reason, so they can be paid pennies a day?
And being illegal they can't complain.
D/
<P...@YAHOO.COM> wrote in message
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Projection - check.
Accusation - check.
Made up facts - check.
Blather - check.
You forgot to <plonk> me!
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> Projection - check.
> Accusation - check.
> Made up facts - check.
> Blather - check.
>
You forgot feigned indignation and an imaginary superiority.
mr dude
D/
"mr du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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mr dude
Oops! I'll add this to my analysis!
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> You forgot feigned indignation and an imaginary superiority.
>
> mr dude
>
> Oops! I'll add this to my analysis!
I'll add your Mom to my analysis.
mr dude (not that I haven't already analyzed her)
D/
I don't have a Mom.
ZZH...@yahoo.com
So you were created by imaculate conception?
D/
<ZZH...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I don't recall. I was very young at the time.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> > So you were created by imaculate conception?
>
> I don't recall. I was very young at the time.
Do you remember dodging a bunch of penises while still in the womb?
mr dude
D/
mr dude
Are you asking me if I was a pokey mon:?
Nunya Bidnits
MaggotMan <mag...@rottingmeat.com> wrote:
<garbage clipped>
Maggot Man suffers from DSHB syndrome... Dread Shit For Brains.
<replonk asshole>