Name Three Things That Grow Uncontrollably, *Until They Kill Their Hosts: Cancer, Entitlements, Unions
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
including those firms that represent unions in collective bargaining?
After all, who says that the secretaries (and other support staff) are
being paid a fair wage and receiving adequate benefits?
The Firm's Partners (CEOs)?? Well, why trust these law partners to
adequately share the firm's wealth/earnings with the workers any more
than we should trust Corporate CEO's to do the same? Why don't law
firms permit their employees to unionize, especially those firms that
represent unions? Answer: they are hypocrites.
My guess is that the majority of lawyers in the US are liberals/Dems.
The ABA and lawyer lobbies support, primarily, the Dems and liberal
causes. . .except, I suppose, when it comes to their own pocketbook.
mr dude
eric
Nice try but unions have been shrinking, not growing.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> Nice try but unions have been shrinking, not growing.
Because after they kill their hosts, they themselves die.
mr dude
eric
Their hosts aren't dead at all. Government, for example has been
growing robustly.
Kurgan Gringioni
"eric" <wart...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's a problem.
Unlike the private sector, when government gets inefficient, it doesn't go
out of business, not until it's so inefficient that it kills off the private
sector too.
eric
> "eric" <warth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I've heard that theory a lot, and it makes some intuitive sense.
However I'm wondering if you have an actual example where this has
happened in the real world?
Kurgan Gringioni
When it happens, a government falls.
Kurgan Gringioni
The best example is the collapse of the Soviet Union (although they had no
private sector).
eric
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> On Mar 6, 1:13 am, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > "eric" <warth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Feb 25, 10:21 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
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> > > On Feb 25, 8:20 pm, eric <warth...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Nice try but unions have been shrinking, not growing.
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> > > Because after they kill their hosts, they themselves die.
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> > > mr dude
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> > :: Their hosts aren't dead at all. Government, for example has been
> > :: growing robustly.
>
> > That's a problem.
>
> > Unlike the private sector, when government gets inefficient, it doesn't go
> > out of business, not until it's so inefficient that it kills off the
> > private
> > sector too.
>
> :: I've heard that theory a lot, and it makes some intuitive sense.
> :: However I'm wondering if you have an actual example where this has
> :: happened in the real world?
>
> The best example is the collapse of the Soviet Union (although they had no
> private sector).
All they had was a military sector. As you say they never had a
private sector to kill off, so they aren't much of an example.
Size of government in capitalist democracies is generally self-
limiting because when things get overbearing a consensus arises to
shrink the public sector. Look at European politics - you can see that
cycle happen over and over.
I can't really think of a good example where there was actually a
collapse of such a government due to economic failure. Maybe the
Weimar Republic, but they had ruinous war reparations and tremendous
political instability inherited from WWI.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
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> I can't really think of a good example where there was actually a
> collapse of such a government due to economic failure.
Detroit pre-bail out.
mr dude
Kurgan Gringioni
>
> :: I've heard that theory a lot, and it makes some intuitive sense.
> :: However I'm wondering if you have an actual example where this has
> :: happened in the real world?
>
> The best example is the collapse of the Soviet Union (although they had no
> private sector).
::All they had was a military sector. As you say they never had a
::private sector to kill off, so they aren't much of an example.
That is not true. The Soviet military took up 20% of their GDP.
That's still a big chunk though. During much of the Cold War, military
spending in the US was about 6% of GDP.