Here Comes The Tyranny!!!
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
H.R. 5741:
Universal National Service Act
111th Congress
This is a bill in the U.S. Congress originating in the House of
Representatives ("H.R."). A bill must be passed by both the House and
Senate and then be signed by the President before it becomes law.
Bill numbers restart from 1 every two years. Each two-year cycle is
called a session of Congress. This bill was created in the 111th
Congress, in 2009-2010.
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and
42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed
services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense
and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the
uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of
the uniformed services, and for other purposes.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-5741
mr dude (this is Obama's "PRIVATE ARMY" HE WAS TALKING ABOUT!)
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
SEC. 105. IMPLEMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT.
(a) In General- The President shall prescribe such regulations as are
necessary to carry out this title.
(b) Matter To Be Covered by Regulations- Such regulations shall
include specification of the following:
(1) The types of civilian service that may be performed in order for a
person to satisfy the person’s national service obligation under this
title.
(2) Standards for satisfactory performance of civilian service and of
penalties for failure to perform civilian service satisfactorily.
(3) The manner in which persons shall be selected for induction under
this title, including the manner in which those selected will be
notified of such selection.
(4) All other administrative matters in connection with the induction
of persons under this title and the registration, examination, and
classification of such persons.
(5) A means to determine questions or claims with respect to inclusion
for, or exemption or deferment from induction under this title,
including questions of conscientious objection.
(6) Standards for compensation and benefits for persons performing
their national service obligation under this title through civilian
service.
(7) Such other matters as the President determines necessary to carry
out this title.
(c) Use of Prior Act- To the extent determined appropriate by the
President, the President may use for purposes of this title the
procedures provided in the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C.
App. 451 et seq.), including procedures for registration, selection,
and induction.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
<foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 27, 9:27 pm, "mr d...@harvarduniversity.edu"
>
> <foster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Get the guns ready boys!!!!!!
(d) Selection for Induction-
(1) RANDOM SELECTION FOR MILITARY SERVICE- When the induction of
persons for military service is authorized by subsection (b), the
President shall utilize a mechanism for the random selection of
persons to be inducted to perform military service.
(2) CIVILIAN SERVICE- Persons described in section 102(a) who do not
volunteer to perform military service or are not inducted for military
service shall perform their national service obligation in a civilian
capacity pursuant to section 102(b)(2).
(e) Voluntary Service- A person subject to induction under this title
may--
(1) volunteer to perform national service in lieu of being inducted;
or
(2) request permission to be inducted at a time other than the time at
which the person is otherwise called for induction.
mr dude
A1...@gmail.com
du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Get the guns ready boys!!!!!!
>Universal National Service Act
Lets see.......this bill was first proposed what 100 years ago?
Not a new concept, it was first proposed before Obama was even born.
Mattu
Why am I not surprised that you object to serving your country in any
capacity Dude?
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> Why am I not surprised that you object to serving your country in any
> capacity Dude?
Forced servitude for a Communist President ain't my bag man!
mr dude (see you in the gulag bitch)
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> Why am I not surprised that you object to serving your country in any
> capacity Dude?
I said "tyranny" not "tranny".
No need for you to get too excited!!
mr dude
Polarhound
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth
The Hitler Youth (German: About this sound Hitler-Jugend (help·info) ,
abbreviated HJ) was a paramilitary organization of the Nazi Party. It
existed from 1922 to 1945. The HJ was the second oldest paramilitary
Nazi group, founded one year after its adult counterpart, the
Sturmabteilung (the SA). Made up of the Hitlerjugend proper, for male
youth ages 14-18; the younger boys' section Deutsches Jungvolk for ages
10-14; and the girls' section Bund Deutscher Mädel (BDM).
...
By December 1936, HJ membership stood at just over five million. That
same month, HJ membership became mandatory for Aryans, under the Gesetz
über die Hitlerjugend law. This legal obligation was re-affirmed in 1939
with the Jugenddienstpflicht and HJ membership was required even when it
was opposed by the member's parents. Massaquoi claims[9], though, that
the war did not allow the law to go very far. From then on, most of
Germany's teenagers belonged to the HJ. By 1940, it had eight million
members. Later war figures are difficult to calculate, since massive
conscription efforts and a general call-up of boys as young as 10 years
old meant that virtually every young male in Germany was, in some way,
connected to the HJ. Only about 10 to 20% were able to avoid joining.[10]
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> old meant that virtually every young male in Germany was, in some way,
> connected to the HJ. Only about 10 to 20% were able to avoid joining.[10]
And Obama wants a mandate to put 80 million Americans in his "army"!
mr dude (fight the power!!!)
Ray OHara
"Polarhound" <polar...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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you'd equate the Peace Corp with the Hitler Youth.
the irony is all you teabaggers would be joining the Hitler Jugend and have
been cheering the loudest at the Nuremburg Rallies.
Deadmeat
This bill will never pass. But I'll bet you hope it does, so you have
something else to whine about.
Ray OHara
"Deadmeat" <no...@home.com> wrote in message
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if a Republican proposed it they'd be trumpeting it as a great thing.
teaching discipline and respect and all the usual repub bullshit.
if Obama came out for parenting the Teabagger/wingnut brigade would be
touting the virtues of bastardy
clouddreamer
Yup. Read this today:
One day the Pope came to Washington for a visit. President Obama took
the Pope for a cruise down the Potomac on the presidential yacht.
While they were sitting and chatting on deck, the wind blew the Pope’s
high hat off and into the water. Being the gentleman that he is,
President Obama quickly hopped overboard, tip-toed across the water and
retrieved the hat. He tip-toed back across the water, climbed aboard
the yacht and placed the hat back on the Pope’s head. The Pope thanked
the President and they sailed on.
The headlines in the papers the next day read:
"OBAMA CAN’T SWIM!"
;]
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
Ray OHara
"clouddreamer" <Reuse....@Reduce.now> wrote in message
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:)))
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> Ray OHara wrote:
>
> The headlines in the papers the next day read:
>
> "OBAMA CAN’T SWIM!"
Yeah right. Like the Liberal media would print that!
mr dude
Polarhound
It is no surprise that clouddreamer takes the Joke section of
Democratunderground.com as news items.
clouddreamer
Pretty sad that you think I considered it a news item.
Obviously, you're too dense to understand the analogy.
..
Polarhound
I would suggest then, that you refrain from opening your trap again
until you figure out the difference between analogies, parodies and
outright email-spam humor.
Apparnetly, you have no clue as to the difference.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> I would suggest then, that you refrain from opening your trap again
> until you figure out the difference between analogies, parodies and
> outright email-spam humor.
>
> Apparnetly, you have no clue as to the difference.
You do realize that the name "cloud dreamer" denotes a lazy liberal
sunshine loving tree hugger?
You cannot argue with such a mentally weak subhuman.
It is better to let them go.
mr dude
clouddreamer
Obviously, you don't get the message and have to attack the messenger.
What do I expect? You think big business is benign and good. You're
living in a bubble.
Sad.
<another Fox News worshipper plonked>
..
MuahMan
Pray for a Civil War II. Then we can just kill the Democrats and it
will be legal. That it is illegal to kill Democrats now is the only
reason i'm not doing it. Boom, once all the Democrats are dead only
the hardworking people will remain. We will have slaughtered all the
leeches on society and the criminals too.
Ray OHara
"clouddreamer" <Reuse....@Reduce.now> wrote in message
>
> <another Fox News worshipper plonked>
>
Polarmutt is a proven liar.
he watched Beck faithfully and then posts what he heard as gospel
and then when the truth is shown him he just moves on to the next lie.
clouddreamer
Ahh...I'm still chuckling over his comment that big business is good
cause they hire people. LOL.
Shallow thinkers. The Right loves them.
..
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> Ahh...I'm still chuckling over his comment that big business is good
> cause they hire people. LOL.
>
I have never been offered a job from a poor person.
mr dude
Ray OHara
"clouddreamer" <saveth...@save.money.too> wrote in message
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that act like employers are doing you a favor by giving you a job and that
they are doing it out of kindness.
Bones
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mr dude
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WHAT YOU'RE HIRED FOR, is to help us... does that seem clear to you? TO HELP
US, not to... FUCK-US-UP... to help those who are going out there to try to
earn a living... You fairy. You company man.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> that act like employers are doing you a favor by giving you a job and that
> they are doing it out of kindness.
No. They give you a job because they expect you to be productive and
earn more for the company than they are spending on you.
And don't give the bullshit excuse that the "common man" pays taxes.
Employers pay all the taxes for the employees. 85% of workers do not
write a check to the Imperial federal government for tax purposes,
their employers do.
mr dude
Polarhound
Are you really this dumb?
Against my better judgement, I'm going to attempt to explain this simple
concept to your closed little mind:
Employers hire people because doing so will make them MORE money, while
at the same time providing a living for the person they hire, who will
then take THAT money and buy things that other people will need to
produce, people who will then take THAT money and buy things that they
need, and so on.
I'd recommend you take an Economics 110 course, but they don't have your
preferred Che Guerrera and Hugo Chavez versions in any major colleges.
clouddreamer
> "mr du...@harvarduniversity.edu" <fost...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:60d7c26f-ea4e-4c74...@o7g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 1, 8:51 pm, clouddreamer <savethepla...@save.money.too> wrote:
>
>> Ahh...I'm still chuckling over his comment that big business is good
>> cause they hire people. LOL.
>>
>
> I have never been offered a job from a poor person.
>
> mr dude
> ---------------------------------------------------
How shortsighted and ignorant are you?
> WHAT YOU'RE HIRED FOR, is to help us... does that seem clear to you? TO HELP
> US, not to... FUCK-US-UP... to help those who are going out there to try to
> earn a living... You fairy. You company man.
How...ummm...bizarre...incomprehesible...
MuahMan
worms and maggots then.
Ray OHara
that's the theory but not the practice.
Boston has a waterfront.
ships used to dock there. RR ran there and the ships unloaded and the
trains filled and good shipped around the country.and vice versa, goods from
the USA were loaded on ships.
Mort Zuckerman moved in bought up the waterfront and "developed" it.
the Long Wharf Marriot, the Harbor Towers Condos etc, he made a scad of
money in a short term for him and him alone it made a great deal.
thousands were put out of work. docks that provided a longterm and steady
economic value were deatroyed for a short term mega-profit. that is
economics 101 today.
wages to earn a living, hah,
today its we can shut a factory in Iowa that pay $15 an hour and ship the
jobs to Vietnam where the pay is 25 cents an hour. so even if the American
workers took a 50% or even 75% pay cut Vietnam is still a better deal for
Wall Street. that is economics 101.
the idea is for the stock holders to make maximum money all the time.
if all the rest of the people suffer so what I've got mine.
well the people who are suffering have a natural right to survive and a
natural right to revolt.
I have as much right to take from you with a gun as you take from me with a
pencil. that is real too.
and that is where we are headed.
you teabaggers are mad as hell and some of you are already talking 2nd
amendment remedies.
someday they'll realize they are mad at the wrong people.
its not the poor who are stealing everything. if they were they wouldn't be
poor.
look at who is taking everything. who's getting rich. eventually the
teabaggers will figure that out.
and then there will be revolution.
clouddreamer
That's it exactly. PH can't comprehend anything beyond the black and
white notion of "they hire people." You hit the nail on the head with
the concept that they are out to make money and nothing more. There
isn't a profit-oriented business out there that has done anything for
the greater good unless it meant they would make money (or are regulated
to do so by the government).
This past recession has proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that left
alone, big business will make stupid short-sighted decisions to make a
buck. They will not pay more than they can get away with and will
minimize benefits in order to maximize profit.
Just look at the health insurance industry. They pay people, sure. These
same people have to lie and cheat hard working Americans if they want to
keep their job. Billions upon billions of dollars were being stolen from
these hard working Americans with the catch-all "Pre-existing
condition." (Well, not any more...as I understand it). But up to reform,
the insurance company could change the life of a hard working American
with the stroke of a pen by using that catch-all for many conditions
that could not possibly be pre-existing (including a broken wrist!!).
The idea was that people would be afraid of losing coverage and not
appeal the denied claim and pay thousands out of pocket. In the case of
the woman who tripped and broke her wrist, she appealed and got her
$6000 back. Luckily, she didn't let fear stop her.
But millions of others didn't appeal out of fear and the insurance
companies raked in billions that should have otherwise been paid out.
Another woman, a nurse, was denied any insurance because of an old lower
back injury. They not only denied her any coverage, they denied her
child coverage because of the woman's "pre-existing condition." The
woman didn't care if they didn't cover anything related to her lower
back problem...she just wanted insurance. I believe reform now allows
her to purchase insurance (yup...not all the 30 million now being
covered by insurance are poor, lazy, welfare cases that Fox news would
like you to believe they are).
Heck, the very notion that a child goes without health care in richest
nation on Earth is obscene.
And need I mention the hundreds of seniors who travel to Canada every
day to load up on Rx medications because they are a fraction of the
price in the US.
Yup. Hard working Americans who've retired and are subjected to
outrageous fees for the exact same medicine that is a fraction of the
cost in Canada...because our government regulates the price. In the US,
it's a free for all and profit comes first.
And people like PH are getting raped by these same companies and are
completely blind to it. Sad, really.
Not Sure
> Ray OHara wrote:
> >news:bur5o.11773$mW5....@newsfe14.iad...
> >> On 8/1/2010 9:26 PM, Ray OHara wrote:
> >>>news:XKidnfPGgoM1i8vR...@supernews.com...
> >>>> On 8/1/2010 12:52 PM, Ray OHara wrote:
Clouddipshit just can't stand it when she's exposed as the fat,
socialist lifetime failure that she is, can she? :)
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> today its we can shut a factory in Iowa that pay $15 an hour and ship the
> jobs to Vietnam where the pay is 25 cents an hour. so even if the American
> workers took a 50% or even 75% pay cut Vietnam
This pisses you off yet you support legalizing illegal immigrants who
are lowering wages in our OWN country????
Hypocrite!
mr dude
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> today its we can shut a factory in Iowa that pay $15 an hour and ship the
> jobs to Vietnam where the pay is 25 cents an hour. so even if the American
> workers took a 50% or even 75% pay cut Vietnam is still a better deal for
> Wall Street. that is economics 101.
Once again no grasp of economics. The jobs are shipped overseas
because of the high tax burdens Democrats have imposed on US
corporations.
Why pay a 35% tax (doesn't include all the taxes the corporation pays
for it's employees) in the US when in Hong Kong it is 16.5%???
It's NOT the wages of the workers, it is the punitive taxation by the
Imperial US federal government!
mr dude
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
> its not the poor who are stealing everything. if they were they wouldn't be
> poor.
We pay for their food stamps, their section 8 housing, their medical
bills, their crime, their children's education and they are NOT
stealing from us???????
We pay for all their shit!
Unbelievable. mr dude
ZZH...@yahoo.com
>On Aug 2, 11:55 am, "Ray OHara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> today its we can shut a factory in Iowa that pay $15 an hour and ship the
>> jobs to Vietnam where the pay is 25 cents an hour. so even if the American
>> workers took a 50% or even 75% pay cut Vietnam is still a better deal for
>> Wall Street. that is economics 101.
>
>Once again no grasp of economics. The jobs are shipped overseas
>because of the high tax burdens Democrats have imposed on US
>corporations.
Wrong. The jobs are shipped overseas so they corporation can
pay less.
Why pay someone $15 an hour when you can pay them
25 cents a day in another country?
Why pay someone $15 an hour when the corporation
can buy a kid for $16 in a country like India and then
work that kid for no pay?
ZZH...@yahoo.com
You notice how republicans will bitch about some woman getting a few
hundred dollars to feed her kids but won't bat an eye at corporate
welfare, i.e. xxxxxx corporation is paid billions of dollars for a
planes that won't fly or a guns that won't shoot.
mr dude@harvarduniversity.edu
>
> Why pay someone $15 an hour when you can pay them
> 25 cents a day in another country?
So you would have a kid starve to death, in India???
25 cents is a ton of money in India!!
Why do hate children?????
mr dude (hates kid haters)
Mr Bitchtits
> Obviously, you don't get the message and have to attack the messenger.
> What do I expect? You think big business is benign and good. You're
> living in a bubble.
>
> Sad.
>
> <another Fox News worshipper plonked>
>
plonk me too you liberal douchenozzle
Diogenes
Monster Zero
> Ray OHara wrote:
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>
> >> <another Fox News worshipper plonked>
>
> > Polarmutt is a proven liar.
> > he watched Beck faithfully and then posts what he heard as gospel
> > and then when the truth is shown him he just moves on to the next lie.
>
> fuck off you liberal pickle smoocher
Anyone who falls for the whole left/right bullshit is the dumb pickle
smoocher. What's going on in this thread is EXACTLY what the
government wants. They want us distracted and debating/fighting over
the left/right paradigm. They ALL buddy up to fuck us in the ass on a
daily basis.
WAKE THE FUCK UP! Do some research it's all there even in the
mainstream media outlets it's all there. This is no paranoid
conspiracy bullshit this is the TRUTH!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+obama+deception+full+length&aq=1
Monster Zero
And another one to watch IF YOU FUCKING DARE!!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fall+of+the+republic+hq+full+length+version&aq=1
Monster Zero
Just to add those docs are NOT right or left slanted. They have strong
points and truths that support both beliefs and it explains mostly in
layman terms what is really going on. Believe me when I tell you I am
not some idiot that believes everything he sees or reads, it took me
years to wake up and see what's going on.
I wish this stuff was all bullshit and that our government was really
looking out for us but it's not and they are not. I'm not gonna beg
here but if you have a scintilla of an open mind or curiosity please
watch these. They are well done and intelligently put together and
fascinating stuff. It's also all proven and truthful.
I challenge anyone to watch either of those docs and prove ANY of the
info is untrue. It's impossible because the people who were involved
in these docs did their homework to the nth degree and the main
prerequisite was that ALL of the info contained was gone over with a
fine tooth comb before it made it to tape.