Osama Buried At Sea
HVAC
Right next to Megatron.
And we know how that worked out for HIM.
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"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
Michael
why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
Now Osama is in hiding with Hitler, Elvis and Jim Morrison
cloud dreamer
Islamic burial requirements say he has to be buried within 24 hours.
Defying that risked upsetting more people than the fact that they killed
him at all.
They tried to give the body to Saudi Arabia but they refused. Burying it
in Pakistan was out of the question, so he got an Islamic funeral and
burial at sea.
http://cheezburger.com/View/4715946752
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Or the climate will do it for us
Michael
that is an excellent reason to burry him at sea, but I assure you, the
conspiracy mongers wont ever let go of this one. The "9-11 truth"
movement is not trivial and this fast disposal of the body is going to
be their holy grail.
Papa Carl
"Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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So how would burying a criminal who was a Jew be treated? It's the same
burial law....and to not go with it would only serve to alienate a huge
number of people...I am aware some don't care about that issue at all and
even welcome it...to me, that is pure stupidity and suicide in the end.
This was a good decision that had to be made quickly. If he were burried
anywhere identifiable it would be an endless stream of idiots trying to dig
him up and some would seize it to make him a hero...he's shark food
now...good use for him.
Michael
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i'm not in dispute of what you have written above... those are all
excellent points. but then again, i can argue against it too. i
had a feeling that when he was found... if ever... the body would not
be around for more than a few short hours.
always good to keep in mind, papa... how long did they keep the bodies
of saddam's two sons on ice ??? both muslim too. plenty of time and
oppertunity to get a good look at them was afforded... it was, as the
article points out... a "damned if you do and damned if you dont"
affair... most of the people involved in making the decision felt that
it was important beyond all else to give the media and private sources
adequate time to view/inspect the bodies. before burrial
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3088011.stm
and now... we have this below... just like i suspected we would
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20058905-503544.html
again... im not discarding what you say... just that this went down
just the exact way the conspiracy "kooks" said it would...
Onkel Petey
Elvis and Jim Morrison's bodies were seen AFTER death. I would rather
say; Jimmy Hoffa.
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Speak well of your Enemies . . .
After all you made them.
Papa Carl
Both secular Muslims....not alligned with any religous activists.....big
difference...no Islamists would seize on their issues. Just like I've been
saying....the birthers are nuts...and nuts abound today...so the same gang
will do whatever they can to keep these myths alive...be it truthers,
birthers or whatever...and I still say it is largely because someone
different than them is the President. If Bush (any of them) or McCain or
whoever came on TV and made the announcement, these protesters would buy it
in a second.
Michael
Oh... But the real fundamentalists like Osama and his pals were REAL
considerate to make sure the people at the WTC, Pentagon and on the
aircrafts they hijackd got a proper and traditional burrial. IMHO,
given the nature of the crime and the criminal, there should have
been COMPREHENSIVE independent forensic testing of the body to ensure
that it was bin Laden, and his death occurred as reported.
A1...@gmail.com
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>On May 2, 11:24 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Right next to Megatron.
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>> And we know how that worked out for HIM.
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>> "OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
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>why where the so quick to dispose of the body ???
Because Muslim custom dictates the body be buried within
24 hours.
Papa Carl
WTF are you talking about? You sound like an idiot...so if a terrorist
attacks we should become terrorists...that is your logic. If someone robs
you, mugs you, should you go outside and do the same to someone else? Or,
do we have standards as a culture and a nation. You create your "rules"
based on your preconceived ideas and bias. The Navy Seals, CIA and all of
those involved can make a good decision. Acting swiftly was the right thing
to do. All we will do on this is argue.
Michael
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Papa... You know what ??? It is acceptable if you treat a criminal
like a criminal. Would the cops avoid arresting a violent criminal on
a sunday if he were christian ??? of course not.
and further more...
on one hand, you profess your gleaming confidence in the nations
institutions and agencies. follow their infallible lead, shall we ???
they have it all in hand ??? we don't break from our accepted
standards. not us. never. water boarding and arrests/detention
without legal representation ??? ionizing radiation used on civilians
by people that are not trained medical professionals. the only one
that sounds like an idiot is you. I'm glad you are not running
things. people would wind up in the gulag for questioning
government.
what was it you said ??? " If someone robs you, mugs you, should you
go outside and do the same to someone else?"
don't lecture me. you sound like a simple flag waving moron. do some
real scholarly research and clue yourself in on what got us in all
this business to begin with. really... give you brain a chance, man.
Papa Carl
and further more...
Damn man....freakin read what you wrote...your logic was NOT about
criminals...of course you treat a criminal like a criminal....don't be so
stupid and arrogant.....I NEVER said anything like that nor did anyone else
who can recognize intelligent decisions. Scholarly research????? Where is
it written that the USA should drop all of it's values based on who did
what? You argue in circles.....NO all of the things done wrong do not make
another thing done wrong right. I'm through even trying to talk to you.
Michael
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Papa...
My points are all mixed up here... I am actually not trying to be
offensive... let me get my stuff straightened out for you so you can
see what I’m trying to say...
I agree 100 % with you that as Americans, we should act like good guys
and not a bunch of Nazi stooges. Once you lose your moral compass and
trample on the law, you don’t have anything left to preserve. I can’t
stress enough that I agree with you 100 %!!!!
Here is where I got you confused. I would of course also agree with
you that the Osama corps not be disrespected, but I made it look like
I could care less about what was done. The "ends justify the means"
garbage.
Then... I detailed a number of unsavory things that were done by the
government in the interest of fighting terror. The Patriot Act,
ionizing radiation, torture not limited to water boarding... torture
for heck sake, detention without legal process, surreptitious
targeting of heads of state... I think recently we just participated
in the killing of some civilians trying to blow up momar....
And... You want to tell me that the same government and agencies that
did all that above actually care about the corps of public enemy
number one???
Given what I have written about, you could come to the conclusion that
the only reason they got rid of the body quickly was to hide
something. Like perhaps it has really been on ice for the past ten
years. Live bad guys make good reasons to spend and promote wars much
better then dead bad guys.
Now that Osama is dead, I guess all our guys come home and the patriot
act and the x-ray Nazis will be a thing of the past no??? Mmm Hmmm...
I'm not saying I go along with that stuff... Just making a point.
Again... I’m not trying to be a dick head. Just looking at things
from all angles
Papa Carl
Papa...
You are a product of what the media does today....tries to find all kinds of
angles instead of looking at any facts presented. I'm sure some video will
come out of the events unfolding...as for the body on ice for any
period....not when Bush was President it wasn't.....all of these
"conspiracies" can be made far less real if we look at facts and not let our
imaginations run wild. War is not nice...bad stuff happens...you can not
let guys do this kind of activity and act like choir boys...it just isn't
realistic...but I see no reason to believe this is other than what is being
presented. The compound appears around 2005...right around the time the
previous administration decided finding him was a low priority....looks like
the bad guys felt a little safer...and it looks like our duplicitous ally is
just that....playing both sides of the aisle. When you say stuff on the
internet...it looks like you are backing those ideas. I'm glad they got rid
of the body....can you imagine the instant shrine his grave would have
created? Who would want that in their country? Let his followers go follow
him now...let them go sleep with the fishes and into the jaws of
sharks...I'll loan them the money for the rafts to go out there.
Michael
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No offense... But I still think it would have been better for the sake
of "closure" if they let the world close the lid on his casket instead
of the way it was done. How long did IL Duce' hang around by his
feet ??? They could have gone along with his burial rights and STILL
allowed for independent forensic inspection of the body and subsequent
burial at sea. As far as the idea that there is no shrine to him now
that his followers can pay homage to.. Forget about that. You cant
kill an idea. I'm not a conspiracy kook nor do I have blind faith in
government.
Tutor
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As I read this, our very own Johnny M. is no doubt putting his
conspiracy thoughts together. :)
Michael
Of course, you would not be a product of the mass media too, now would
you ??? Only uninformed fools like me ???
I wanted to add a specific comment here. On one hand, you say we
needed to treat the dead body with all due respect. On the other
hand, you say that while we are wrapped up in all this terrorist
business... which you label as "war", you cant act like a bunch of
choir boys. That is a tremendous contradiction. IMHO, as far as
closing the lid on the coffin, it was MOST important to let the world
in on it. Not spirit the body away. Remember, Papa... in war, you
cant always act like a bunch of choir boys where blue chip political
and military issues are concerned. ESPECIALL not in the way that the
9-11 mastermind was wrapped up. And I'll remind you again... They
body could have been examined by independant sources while still
maintaing what was perscribed by his religion.
Papa Carl
Musolini was killed by his own people. This operation was carried out in a
country whose alliance with our cause is questionable. What was done was
proper and the right thing to do on many fronts. It was an attempt to
satisfy some of the requirements of Muslim law (which is the same as Jewish
law on this issue) and it got the body and the task force out of the country
quickly. No other country wanted to take the body and even if one would it
would only create yet more problems and a shrine for the followers. I fail
to see how any other approach would ultimately have been better. AND...the
major point is, they found him and they caught him....how did that work out
with all the gung ho guys before?
Papa Carl
You are just as reactive as Fox news is too....we are all products of this
new phenomena...I'm a Hell of a lot older than you and it is much easier for
an old person to not react as much. So...to appease your needs and wishes
you would put a lot more people at risk...and create even more chaos? But
it would make you happy I guess so it would be ok? I don't really think too
much of it was about religion...they disposed of a body nobody wanted to
take...and there is no physical shrine for him now either.
Michael
I agree about not stirring up a hornets nest as far as not being
disrespectful to the body. again... i think the world needed to see
and be involved more. in that i suggest independent examination of
the body....by independent, I mean apart from the military and
government.
do you by any chance remember the jessica lynch affair ??? all the
actual details ??? always good to keep that sort of thing in mind.
Papa Carl
That incident was the Army doing what it felt it needed to do..and under a
very different set of guidelines...I believe I've read where those things
have been addressed too. It's not just the religous rules...the knowledge
of where that body is would create a reason for some radicals to act...we do
not need to continue to do their recruiting for them.