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Pelosi's communist minions shut lights on Republicans, turn off electricity, kick out reporters; She's a fascist dictator

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William James

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Aug 1, 2008, 6:21:43 PM8/1/08
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House Dems turn out the lights but GOP keeps talking

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Democrats adjourned the House,
turned off the lights and killed the microphones, but Republicans are
still on the floor talking gas prices.

Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and other GOP leaders opposed
the motion to adjourn the House, arguing that Pelosi's refusal to
schedule a vote allowing offshore drilling is hurting the American
economy. They have refused to leave the floor after the adjournment
motion passed at 11:23 a.m., and they are busy bashing Pelosi and her
fellow Democrats for leaving town for the August recess.

At one point, the lights went off in the House and the microphones were
turned off in the chamber, meaning Republicans were talking in the dark.
But as Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz..) was speaking, the lights went back on
and the microphones were turned on shortly afterward.

But C-SPAN, which has no control over the cameras in the chamber, has
stopped broadcasting the House floor, meaning no one was witnessing this
except the assembled Republicans, their aides, and one Democrat, Rep.
Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio), who has now left.

Only about a half-dozen Republicans were on the floor when this began,
but the crowd has grown to about 20, according to Patrick O'Connor.
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"This is the people's House," said Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.).
"This is not Pelosi's politiburo."

Democratic aides were furious at the GOP stunt, and reporters were kicked
out of the Speaker's Lobby, the space next to the House floor where they
normally interview lawmakers.

"You're not covering this, are you?" complained one senior Democratic
aide. Another called the Republicans "morons" for staying on the floor.

Update: The Capitol Police are now trying to kick reporters out of the
press gallery above the floor, meaning we can't watch the Republicans
anymore. But Minority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) is now in the gallery
talking to reporters, so the cops have held off for a minute. Clearly,
Democrats don't want Republicans getting any press for this episode. GOP
leaders are trying to find other Republicans to rotate in for Blunt so
reporters aren't kicked out.

Update 2: This message was sent out by Blunt's office:

"Although this Democrat majority just adjourned for the Democrat 5-week
vacation, House Republicans are continuing to fight on the House floor.
Although the lights, mics and C-SPAN cameras have been turned off, House
Republicans are on the floor speaking to the taxpayers in the gallery
who, not surprisingly, agree with Republican energy proposals.

"All Republicans who are in town are encouraged to come to the House
floor."

Update 3: Democrats just turned out the lights again. Republicans cheered.

Update 4: Republican leaders just sent out a notice looking for a
bullhorn, and leadership aides are trying to corral all the members who
are still in town to come speak on the floor and sustain this one-sided
debate.

Also, Republicans can thank Shadegg for turning on the microphones the
first time. Apparently, the fiesty Arizona conservative started typing
random codes into the chamber's public address system and accidentally
typed the correct code, allowing Republicans brief access to the
microphone before it was turned off again.

"I love this," Shadegg told reporters up in the press gallery afterward.
"Congress can be so boring. ... This is a kick."
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Update 4: The scene on the floor is kind of crazy. Normally, members are
not allowed to speak directly to the visitor galleries, and visitors are
prohibited from cheering. But in this case, the members are walking up
and down on the floor during their speeches, standing on chairs. The
visitors are cheering loudly. Some members even brought in visitors, who
are now sitting on the House floor in the seats normally filled by
lawmakers, cheering and clapping. Very funny.

Democrats faced a choice here: Should they leave the cameras on and let
Republicans rip Pelosi & Co. on C-SPAN, or should they leave the cameras
off and let the Republicans have their "tantrum," as one Democratic aide
characterized it, with the cameras off? So the cameras are off, but
Republicans, and the crowd, are clearly enjoying the scene.

Update 5: Republicans are literally hugging each other on the House
floor. Rep. Don Manzullo (R-Ill.), not normally known as a distinguished
orator, just gave a rousing speech, accusing Democrats of stifling
dissent. He referenced President John Quincy Adams, who returned as a
House member after being defeated in his presidential reelection bid.
Waving his arms and yelling, Manzullo brought the crowd (including a lot
of staffers shipped in by GOP leaders to fill up the place), and he left
the floor to hugs from his colleagues. You don't see that up here every
day.

Update 6: Rep Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) just pretended to be a Democrat. He
stood on the other side of the chamber and listed all of the GOP bills
that the Dems killed.

He then said, "I am a Democrat, and here is my energy plan" and he held
up a picture of an old VW Bug with a sail attached to it. He paraded
around the House floor with the sign while the crowd cheered.

UPDATE 7: It's over.

Right at the stroke of five Georgia Rep. Tom Price announced that House
Republicans were ending their impromptu protest on the floor of the
chamber, ending a five-plus hour rebellion with a round of "God Bless
America."

The assembled tourists, aides and members in the chamber gave Price and
his compatriots a standing ovation. They left the chamber to shouts of
"USA! USA! USA!"

Raymond O'Hara

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Aug 1, 2008, 7:16:58 PM8/1/08
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"William James" <Bi...@mynet.org> wrote in message
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> House Dems turn out the lights but GOP keeps talking
>
> Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Democrats adjourned the House,
> turned off the lights and killed the microphones, but Republicans are
> still on the floor talking gas prices.
>
> Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and other GOP leaders opposed
> the motion to adjourn the House, arguing that Pelosi's refusal to
> schedule a vote allowing offshore drilling is hurting the American
> economy. They have refused to leave the floor after the adjournment
> motion passed at 11:23 a.m., and they are busy bashing Pelosi and her
> fellow Democrats for leaving town for the August recess.

the republicans are the ones who blocked a bill that would have required
the oil companies to drill on the 68 million acres{ that's 2 1/2 the times
the size of ohio}.
men like boehner vored against that bill.
what they are doing is saying the oil companies are being blocked from not
drilling on unleased lands.
let the oil companies use what they have {68,000,000 acres} in alaska and
off shore in the gulf of mexico.

its just more of the same,republcan propaganda.but you are fooled

I. Paris Hilton is empty-headed.
II. Paris Hilton is a celebrity.
III. Obama is a celebrity.

Therefore, Obama is empty headed.
.

I'. Skippy is a squirrel.
II'. Skippy is kept in a cage.
III'. McCain was kept in a cage.

Therefore, McCain is a squirrel...

MZ

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Aug 1, 2008, 7:27:23 PM8/1/08
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"Raymond O'Hara" <raymon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> its just more of the same,republcan propaganda.but you are fooled
>
> I. Paris Hilton is empty-headed.
> II. Paris Hilton is a celebrity.
> III. Obama is a celebrity.
>
> Therefore, Obama is empty headed.

Dude, transitive property!


> I'. Skippy is a squirrel.
> II'. Skippy is kept in a cage.
> III'. McCain was kept in a cage.
>
> Therefore, McCain is a squirrel...

I figured as much.


Raymond O'Hara

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Aug 1, 2008, 7:31:53 PM8/1/08
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"MZ" <ma...@nospam.void> wrote in message
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that's the loic behind McCain's attack ad featuring brittney and paris.


El Guapo

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Aug 1, 2008, 8:18:23 PM8/1/08
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"Raymond O'Hara" <raymon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "William James" <Bi...@mynet.org> wrote in message
> news:X%Lkk.16$Hx...@fe119.usenetserver.com...
>> House Dems turn out the lights but GOP keeps talking
>>
>> Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Democrats adjourned the House,
>> turned off the lights and killed the microphones, but Republicans are
>> still on the floor talking gas prices.
>>
>> Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and other GOP leaders opposed
>> the motion to adjourn the House, arguing that Pelosi's refusal to
>> schedule a vote allowing offshore drilling is hurting the American
>> economy. They have refused to leave the floor after the adjournment
>> motion passed at 11:23 a.m., and they are busy bashing Pelosi and her
>> fellow Democrats for leaving town for the August recess.
>
> the republicans are the ones who blocked a bill that would have required
> the oil companies to drill on the 68 million acres{ that's 2 1/2 the times
> the size of ohio}.
> men like boehner vored against that bill.

Come on, Raymond. Surely you know that there are already "use it or lose
it" clauses in the leases for that land, so what, exactly, is the point of
the new legislation? Surely you must realize that the reason oil companies
aren't drilling on that land is because they didn't find any oil, or not
enough to make it cost-effective? That's just common sense. The fact is,
under current law they will lose the leases on that land, so there is hardly
any point to the law that was blocked, other than to provide cover for
Democrats in Congress so they can say that they are doing something about
the situation.

> what they are doing is saying the oil companies are being blocked from not
> drilling on unleased lands.
> let the oil companies use what they have {68,000,000 acres} in alaska and
> off shore in the gulf of mexico.

OK, I'll bite. If that's really the problem, then how about an even swap of
the current 68,000,000 acres in Alaska and off-shore, for the places that
actually do have oil? It's a win-win, right? No net gain in the amount of
land under control of the oil companies, and they will have no excuses left
if they ignore the newly opened up areas. Let's do it!

> its just more of the same,republcan propaganda.but you are fooled

Right, as opposed to the non-propaganda of passing redundant laws that do
absolutely nothing to actually increase the supply of oil.


Raymond O'Hara

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Aug 1, 2008, 10:50:43 PM8/1/08
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"El Guapo" <plet...@pinatas.com> wrote in message
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they have 10 years to drill they don't have to drill right away and the BLMA
just rubberstamped the lease renewals

>> what they are doing is saying the oil companies are being blocked from
>> not drilling on unleased lands.
>> let the oil companies use what they have {68,000,000 acres} in alaska and
>> off shore in the gulf of mexico.
>
> OK, I'll bite. If that's really the problem, then how about an even swap
> of the current 68,000,000 acres in Alaska and off-shore, for the places
> that actually do have oil? It's a win-win, right? No net gain in the
> amount of land under control of the oil companies, and they will have no
> excuses left if they ignore the newly opened up areas. Let's do it!
>
>> its just more of the same,republcan propaganda.but you are fooled
>
> Right, as opposed to the non-propaganda of passing redundant laws that do
> absolutely nothing to actually increase the supply of oil.
>
>

they don't want to swap, they want it all.
can't you see that? its not about drilling. its about tying up all the
assets.
with bush and cheney's time in office running out they see their best chance
fading

the george's bank is the world's most productive fishery, should we destroy
the billion dollar fishing industry for big oil?

they have a full plate, let them finish that before asking for more.

they are conducting a very good PR campaign while the dems who tried to
force them to drill do nothing public

goddam but i hate that gutless bitch nancy pelosi.


El Guapo

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Aug 2, 2008, 8:49:08 PM8/2/08
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"Raymond O'Hara" <raymon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Again, that makes no sense. Oil prices are at record highs, so if they
could easily get oil from those areas, they would be doing it.

Let's take your assertion at face value, though. In that case, we should
just go ahead and lease the rest of the areas now. The government will make
millions of dollars in lease fees that they aren't getting now, and based on
your flawless *cough* logic, the oil companies will just sit on them anyway,
so what's to lose? It's win/win.


Raymond O'Hara

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Aug 3, 2008, 3:10:19 PM8/3/08
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"El Guapo" <plet...@pinatas.com> wrote in message
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they will drill there eventually, fool. they are holding off drilling
because they want to control the flow.
they are not interested in more supply and lower prices.

and using your logic why don't we just surrender to the islamic terrorists
and call their bluff.


El Guapo

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Aug 4, 2008, 4:09:52 PM8/4/08
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"Raymond O'Hara" <raymon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Again, even if that's the case (and I highly doubt it,) then there's
absolutely nothing to lose by going ahead and allowing the land to be
leased. If the oil companies want to pay for something they aren't going to
use for a long time, which would otherwise be generating no revenues, why
not let them? If you're right, supply and prices would remain the same
either way, but not leasing means the loss of millions of dollars in leasing
fees for absolutely no reason.

> and using your logic why don't we just surrender to the islamic terrorists
> and call their bluff.

Maybe because the terrorists aren't bluffing? I doubt the oil companies
are, either, but YOU are the one who is saying they are, not me. However,
in the case of calling the oil companies' bluff, everybody wins. Either we
get more oil, or we get millions in lease fees and exposure of the supposed
need to open up new drilling areas exposed as a fraud. The former would be
better than the latter, but both are preferable to the current situation.


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