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PhilW1776

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Dec 2, 2002, 9:48:58 AM12/2/02
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With 4 games to go here's how they stack up.
Not exactly a comforting picture for us Pats fans...

DL:
*Miami
NY
NE
Buff

LB:
MIA
NY
NE
Buff

DB:
*MIA
NE
NY
Buff

QB:
NE
BUFF
NY
MIA

RB:
*MIA
NY
Buff
*NE all the other teams are built for cold weather 'cept us

OL:
MIA
NY
NE
Buff

WR:
*Buff
NE
MIA
NY

ST:
NE
NY
MIA
BUFF

Coaching Staff:
*NE
MIA
Buff
NY

* indicates clear 1st or last place

-philw (others may see this differently)


Glenn Greenstein

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Dec 2, 2002, 9:55:22 AM12/2/02
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"PhilW1776" <phil...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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Agree with all except the WR and ST . WR Jets should be second and ST Jets
should be first based on Mortons and Moss's production alone
>


Longshot

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Dec 2, 2002, 10:52:18 AM12/2/02
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what about the Heart, Will to win, cohesive team, & other intangibles
categories?

Greg Zook

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Dec 2, 2002, 2:42:11 PM12/2/02
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"Longshot" <Long...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> what about the Heart, Will to win, cohesive team, & other intangibles
> categories?

These things are hard to measure, but most of the Patriots players know what
it takes to become a champion. Hunger is another intangible. Does being
champion increase the Pats hunger or decrease it?

Joe Strazzere

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Dec 2, 2002, 4:12:26 PM12/2/02
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phil...@aol.comnojunk (PhilW1776) wrote in message news:<20021202094858...@mb-fc.aol.com>...

> With 4 games to go here's how they stack up.
> Not exactly a comforting picture for us Pats fans...

Wow, based on this picture those Dolphins must never lose!
Oh, wait - they just did!

Bradtor

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Dec 2, 2002, 3:42:55 PM12/2/02
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 11:42:11 -0800, "Greg Zook" <greg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Longshot" <Long...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:asfvjs$qr4dj$1...@ID-93768.news.dfncis.de...
>> what about the Heart, Will to win, cohesive team, & other intangibles
>> categories?
>
>These things are hard to measure, but most of the Patriots players know what
>it takes to become a champion. Hunger is another intangible. Does being
>champion increase the Pats hunger or decrease it?

Conversely, does being a champion make it harder to accept defeat?
While I don't know whether defending a championship or being a former
champion makes you any hungrier than a chronic loser, I believe
strongly that losing becomes less acceptable and more painful after
you've scaled the heights.

From what I have seen in all major professional sports, defending
champions take losing harder than teams that are relatively recent
contenders. Once you've imbibed the world's finest wines, you're
reluctant to chug twist-top bottles of Thunderbird.

Julio Sanchez

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Dec 2, 2002, 4:56:15 PM12/2/02
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In article <20021202094858...@mb-fc.aol.com>,
phil...@aol.comnojunk (PhilW1776) writes:

>
>With 4 games to go here's how they stack up.
>Not exactly a comforting picture for us Pats fans...

Who gives a shit? Who has the best TEAM?
*NE.
I get tired of this negative crap!


J.
***
"Right,I'm sure pencil neck Brady will be throwing
those 40 yard punts when there is seven Jets kicking
his little dick in the dirt..LOL 6-10 for the one year
wonders" --------- KordellsTumor 9/1/02

Davepitt55

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Dec 2, 2002, 5:01:06 PM12/2/02
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>Agree with all except the WR and ST . WR Jets should be second and ST Jets
>should be first based on Mortons and Moss's production alone
>

I agree with you about ST, and I agree NY should be higher in WR, but only 3rd.
The Jets WRs have less receptions and yards than the Bills or Pats.

Mark Zarella

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Dec 2, 2002, 6:29:01 PM12/2/02
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For what it's worth (nothing)...

> >DL:
> >*Miami
> >NY
> >NE
> >Buff

Switch NE and Buffalo. Buff at least gets a pass-rush out of Schobel and
Ohanatu, and they don't have to substitute all their DLs with LBs.

> >LB:
> >MIA
> >NY
> >NE
> >Buff

Switch MIA and NYJ.

> >DB:
> >*MIA
> >NE
> >NY
> >Buff

Switch NY and Buff - Buff's CBs are superior, and switch MIA and NE - MIA's
safety situation is much weaker

> >QB:
> >NE
> >BUFF
> >NY
> >MIA

Switch MIA and NY, unless you're referring to Lucas.


> >RB:
> >*MIA
> >NY
> >Buff
> >*NE all the other teams are built for cold weather 'cept us
> >
> >OL:
> >MIA
> >NY
> >NE
> >Buff

This could go either way. I'm not exactly thrilled with any of those OLs...

> >WR:
> >*Buff
> >NE
> >MIA
> >NY

I don't know that Chambers/McKnight/who-knows is better than
Coles/Chrebet/Moss.

User455673

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Dec 2, 2002, 8:25:29 PM12/2/02
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If that is true, then since the early 90's, there's been a whole lot of ripple
drinkin' by past SB Champions.

david lee t.

"Thanks. I owe you one."Lucifer, as said to God outside the Superdome after SB
XXXVI

Bradtor

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Dec 2, 2002, 9:00:03 PM12/2/02
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You misunderstand, David. Repeating as a Super Bowl champion isn't
easy. With the salary cap, there's incredible parity in the NFL, and
it's exceedingly difficult to win consistently. So, no, I am not
saying that a championship NFL team is likely to repeat the next
season. Quite the contrary, in fact.

The point I was trying to make is that teams that have won it all will
do everything possible not to return to the land of losers. That
doesn't mean a champion will win repeatedly season after season, but
it does mean they won't go down without a ferocious fight. If the Pats
lose the division or get eliminated in the playoffs, it won't be for
lack of effort, hunger, or passion. If they lose, they'll lose because
they're just not good enough.

I'm expecting a top-flight effort from them for the remainder of the
season.

j.stamper

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Dec 2, 2002, 10:08:28 PM12/2/02
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"Greg Zook" <greg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<asgd47$r2cm7$1...@ID-140413.news.dfncis.de>...

> "Longshot" <Long...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:asfvjs$qr4dj$1...@ID-93768.news.dfncis.de...
> > what about the Heart, Will to win, cohesive team, & other intangibles
> > categories?
>
> These things are hard to measure, but most of the Patriots players know what
> it takes to become a champion. Hunger is another intangible. Does being
> champion increase the Pats hunger or decrease it?
>
>
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > DL:
> > > > *Miami
> > > > NY
> > > > NE
> > > > Buff

What would have happened last year if you went through this same
exercise with the pats vs. any team they played in the playoffs?
Oakland, Pitts, Stl would have beaten them in most categories also.
You can't account for heart, desire, ability to rise when the games on
the line. Rank them any way you want. The Pats are the only team in
this group to prove they can do it when it matters most, and until
proven otherwise, I'll take that over this "fantasy football"
approach.

MHe...@yahoo.com

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Dec 3, 2002, 3:04:12 PM12/3/02
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"Glenn Cumstein" <glen.j...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<uvKG9.35185$vM1.2...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...

>
> Agree with all except the WR and ST . WR Jets should be second and ST Jets
> should be first based on Mortons and Moss's production alone
> >

Yeah, Morton sure helped you out last night...

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