Current Forecast for Jets Game
Lark
27 degrees
70% chance of snow
28 mph winds
This will not help the passing game. The good news is this is New
England and there's plenty of time for the forecast to change, but the
weather situation merits watching. I was leaning towards taking the
"under" anyway even on a clear day. People talking about scoring 70+
on the Jets are out of their minds. This is Mangini's one and only
chance to salvage something from this season and get revenge upon
Belichick, and I fully expect him to use all the usual tactics to
"shorten" the game. My prediction is the Patriots won't score more
than 35 points, but that high 20s will be enough to win the game.
Allenx
Consider this: The Steelers are a far better team than the Dolphins, yet bad
Pittsburg weather nearly created an upset.
There has also been a slight degradation in the Pats WR's catching the ball
as the weather has turned colder. Against playoff defenses, the timing
between QB and receivers gets more critical. Difficult to adjust (for both
sides of the ball) in ice or snow.
To boot, the strength of the running game has not been demonstrated since
Morris went down. An ice storm (currently forecasted for the weekend), could
make the Jets game far closer than expected.
.
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Professor
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> Bad weather might be the thing that blows the "historic season".
Bad weather will not deter the Patriots from putting a beating on the
hapless Jests Sunday. It could be the Apocalypse of weather conditions and
the Patriots will continue the with slaughter. It's a matter of priorities,
the Jests must be punished and humiliated.
jstrazz
> Bad weather might be the thing that blows the "historic season".
>
> Consider this: The Steelers are a far better team than the Dolphins, yet bad
> Pittsburg weather nearly created an upset.
"Nearly" is the key word here.
And it wasn't so much the weather as the crappy field that did it.
Professor
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> Lark <jelar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> weather situation merits watching. I was leaning towards taking the
>> "under" anyway even on a clear day. People talking about scoring 70+
>> on the Jets are out of their minds. This is Mangini's one and only
>
> the Steelers that this was going to be the game that the Pats lose.
> Everyone expects the score to be 130-0 ... that's a dangerous situation.
> Also, it isn't like the Jets *completely* suck, they still have the
> ability to play a good game (they beat the Steelers), and they do have
> more inisght than most into the Pats team. Throw in bad weather (aka
> the great equalizer) and blammo.
>
> BTW, am I the only person concerned that Pats fans are now watching the
> weather forecast a week out in hopes of keeping the offense firing on
> all cylinders? Why don't we just have them build a dome and rename
> the team to the colts or the rams?
We get it, you predict a Jets victory and say trash talking is a good thing.
Did you take a stupid pill this morning?
MZ
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> Lark <jelar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "under" anyway even on a clear day. People talking about scoring 70+
>> on the Jets are out of their minds. This is Mangini's one and only
>
> the Steelers that this was going to be the game that the Pats lose.
> Everyone expects the score to be 130-0 ... that's a dangerous situation.
> Also, it isn't like the Jets *completely* suck, they still have the
> ability to play a good game (they beat the Steelers), and they do have
> more inisght than most into the Pats team. Throw in bad weather (aka
> the great equalizer) and blammo.
>
> BTW, am I the only person concerned that Pats fans are now watching the
> weather forecast a week out in hopes of keeping the offense firing on
> all cylinders? Why don't we just have them build a dome and rename
> the team to the colts or the rams?
I agree that none of the next three games are gimmes. However, the Jets are
currently pretty awful. Clemens may have a future, but in the present he's
pretty bad. I like Thomas Jones and Leon Washington a lot, but that line is
a joke. And defensively, they just can't do much against the pass. Revis
looks like he's going to be a really good corner in this league, but I see 3
PIs/holds coming from him in this game. Harris seems to have improved their
run D, but there's no chance in hell that he'll be able to cover Welker.
Hell, I'd take the Dolphins to beat the Pats before I'd take the Jets.
who'sthat
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I took mine!
Julio Sanchez
> Lark <jelarks...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > weather situation merits watching. I was leaning towards taking the
> > "under" anyway even on a clear day. People talking about scoring 70+
> > on the Jets are out of their minds. This is Mangini's one and only
>
> the Steelers that this was going to be the game that the Pats lose.
> Everyone expects the score to be 130-0 ... that's a dangerous situation.
> Also, it isn't like the Jets *completely* suck, they still have the
> ability to play a good game (they beat the Steelers),
The Steelers suck on the road, they've proven that repeatedly this
year.
Bad Weather Score: Pats 24, Jets 0
Good Weather Score Pats 70, Jets 0
No matter how well the Jets play, NE still needs to win to get
homefield throughout, so they aren't going to lose this one.
They could easily lose one of the next two, but not this one.
J.
Glenn Greenstein
"Julio Sanchez" <hoolio3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Are you kidding?
Professor
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>
> No matter how well the Jets play, NE still needs to win to get
> homefield throughout, so they aren't going to lose this one.
> They could easily lose one of the next two, but not this one.
>
> J.
You are an idiot. Predicting the Patriots "could easily lose one of the
next two" is about the most ridiculous thing anyone has ever said here.
Carlos Mencia would say you're dee dee dee.
MZ
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> MZ <ma...@nospam.void> wrote:
>> Hell, I'd take the Dolphins to beat the Pats before I'd take the Jets.
>
> Jets have given up ... I don't even see them doing the whole (I hate
> this phrase) "this is our superbowl" thing against the Pats. They're
> just down there collecting their paychecks and waiting for the season
> to end.
>
> The Jets suck, but at least it seems like they try a little bit.
I think the Dolphins probably don't want the distinction of being the first
winless team since the Bucs. And Cam needs to show some sort of finish if
he wants to keep his job.
The Jets might be the better team since they have a running back right now.
But they really screwed the pooch this offseason. Their lines are pushovers
(literally), and defensively they don't match up well with the Pats
offense -- a couple good players in the secondary, but a couple really bad
ones too; and they can't generate a pass rush without bringing the house.
I think the Pats will score close to 40, and I don't see how the Jets can
come anywhere close to doing the same.
$DIETY
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I've set these things in motion to screw (can a $DIETY say that?) up the
Jests game planning.
I'll fix it before Sunday (it's my day of rest).
TXRhody
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What is a "diety"? Is that like someone who is always on a diet?
Professor
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Glenn Greenstein
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Glenn Greenstein
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> MZ <ma...@nospam.void> wrote:
>> Hell, I'd take the Dolphins to beat the Pats before I'd take the Jets.
>
> Jets have given up ... I don't even see them doing the whole (I hate
> this phrase) "this is our superbowl" thing against the Pats. They're
> just down there collecting their paychecks and waiting for the season
> to end.
>
> The Jets suck, but at least it seems like they try a little bit.
I don't agree with the Jets giving up. I do agree they suck, but they try to
win every game. Just a matter of a lot of bad players on the team and not a
very good HC.
Professor
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MZ
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>
Leaving the top open for Moss and Stallworth? I doubt it. Unless they'll
use the nickel as the base defense with Rhodes as the nickel corner (which
is actually exactly what I'd do if I was the Jets).
Teams have been dedicating their linebackers or their nickel corners to
Welker. The Redskins did an ok job with that, IMO, but that was because of
London Fletcher -- who I consider to be one of the best ILBs in football.
The Jets currently don't have a London Fletcher.
MZ
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> MZ <ma...@void.nospam> wrote:
>> I think the Pats will score close to 40, and I don't see how the Jets can
>> come anywhere close to doing the same.
>
> be surprised to see the Pats break all sorts of records in that game), but
> my gut gets a little worried when people are already measuring the coffins
> for the Jets players.
Coffins? Tannenbaum already gave his players shovels to dig their own
graves before the season started.
Paddy McGroin
Professor
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Christian. His inability to spell is consistent with the stupidity that
goes hand in hand with religious fervor.
Paddy McGroin
Julio Sanchez
> "Julio Sanchez" <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I see. So you think the Pats will definitely beat the Giants if they
Pats
have nothing to play for, sit their starters after the first quarter,
while
the Giants are still fighting for a playoff spot? I didn't say that
they
would certainly lose one of the next two, I said they "easily"
*could*,
if the Pats clinch all they can clinch this Sunday.
J.
TXRhody
>
> The $sign is curious...maybe a tele-evangelist
He's the god of the dollar menu.
Julio Sanchez
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> "Julio Sanchez" <hoolio3sanc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Well, the scores are intended to be metaphors, as in "I think the
Pats will beat the Jets by a large margin, such as...." But yes, the
Pats
could shut them out. The Jets scored 3 against Buffalo and the
Cowboys.
I mean, it's a lot more likely that the Jets would be shutout than the
Pats, don't you think?
How about this: Pats 49, Jets 13?
J.
Glenn Greenstein
I think that score is a lot more likely.
It all depends on how well Clemens is playing and how healthy the Jets WR
are next week.
Against the Bills and Cowboys, Coles didn't play in either game and Cotchery
was playing hurt.
Professor
Alright Julio, we've got you down as predicting the Giants will beat the
Patriots. While in theory that possibility does exist, with all due respect
I find your prediction to be dee dee dee.
http://www.carlosmencia.com/content/videos.php?id=66
Cobb
"Lark" <jelar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> As of Tuesday morning, the forecast for Sunday is:
>
> 27 degrees
> 70% chance of snow
> 28 mph winds
>
> This will not help the passing game. The good news is this is New
> England and there's plenty of time for the forecast to change, but the
> "under" anyway even on a clear day. People talking about scoring 70+
> on the Jets are out of their minds. This is Mangini's one and only
> Belichick, and I fully expect him to use all the usual tactics to
> "shorten" the game. My prediction is the Patriots won't score more
> than 35 points, but that high 20s will be enough to win the game.
Don't believe the weather until a day or two before.
Glenn Greenstein
"MZ" <ma...@void.nospam> wrote in message
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That is what I think they will be doing unless we see the ice storm everyone
is predicting right now.
I also hope they overload the right side of the line when the Pats go with
an empty backfield and blitz Rhodes.
That seemed to work well for the Ravens.
>
> Teams have been dedicating their linebackers or their nickel corners to
> Welker. The Redskins did an ok job with that, IMO, but that was because
> of London Fletcher -- who I consider to be one of the best ILBs in
> football. The Jets currently don't have a London Fletcher.
No, but Rhodes is as fast if not faster than Fletcher and can cover.
It will be interesting to see if Rhodes extends his four game pick roll he
is on right now.
>
>
MZ
>
> "MZ" <ma...@void.nospam> wrote in message
>> they'll use the nickel as the base defense with Rhodes as the nickel
>> corner (which is actually exactly what I'd do if I was the Jets).
>
> That is what I think they will be doing unless we see the ice storm
> everyone is predicting right now.
It'll be interesting to see if they use him in that way. The Pats have
spent a considerable time doing something similar on defense this season.
It's similar to the "big nickel", but then again, sometimes it looks like
it's just Rodney playing OLB. The Pats, however, have the luxury of having
two pretty good safeties behind Rodney. The Jets have some major issues at
safety behind Rhodes. So they might instead take the approach of trying to
get your best football players on the field -- Barton, BT, etc are better
than Anam, Smith, or whoever else the Jets use back there. That's what I
predict they'll do. And yet another reason why I think safety is a major
offseason need for the Jets.
> I also hope they overload the right side of the line when the Pats go with
> an empty backfield and blitz Rhodes.
> That seemed to work well for the Ravens.
It did. But it didn't work so well for the Steelers. Contrary to popular
belief, the Ravens didn't blitz very often. Brady and Belichick both
remarked on this last week, and Reiss reported something like only 17
blitzes from them in that game. I think the "blueprint" to beat Brady is to
bring pressure with only 4 guys. He's been killing the blitz all year. You
look at the two best defensive jobs against Brady, and they were games where
they generated pressure on him without bringing the house -- Indy and
Baltimore. I'm almost thinking that this should be a game where the Jets
use a 4-line front (no, I'm not Michael) and concede the run to beat the
pass. Ellis against Kaczur is a favorable matchup for the Jets. But I
suspect Mangini will try to disguise blitzes and do that stupid
running-start thing. Bad idea.
>> Teams have been dedicating their linebackers or their nickel corners to
>> Welker. The Redskins did an ok job with that, IMO, but that was because
>> of London Fletcher -- who I consider to be one of the best ILBs in
>> football. The Jets currently don't have a London Fletcher.
>
> No, but Rhodes is as fast if not faster than Fletcher and can cover.
> It will be interesting to see if Rhodes extends his four game pick roll he
> is on right now.
Yeah, but Rhodes is a DB. Fletcher is a lot more stout against the run, so
they can use him up there in the base D.
J Buck
activities 5 days in advance based on a weather report.
Beiselbub
> Consider this: The Steelers are a far better team than the Dolphins, yet bad
> Pittsburg weather nearly created an upset.
I considered it, and found it stupid.
1) Pittsburgh's poor maintenance of Heinz Field prevented that game
from being a *loss*. They got outplayed. (With help from a cheap
shot on Ricky Williams.)
2) Pittsburgh is HIGHLY overrated, losing to the Jets, Donkeys and
Cardinals.