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Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 8, 2009, 10:10:54 AM12/8/09
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Okay, so now I have to take back one, eensy, weensy, itsy, bitsy, tiny
thing (and it isn't about football).

Today, one would have to shovel the snow. Over two feet, and still
coming down. Granted, this is only our second storm (the first was in
early October) this season, but we have bunches and bunches coming
down.

It probably won't last long. It is the first time, since we moved
back here from Denver, that gov't offices have been closed because of
weather.

So far as I can determine, this is the worst storm in Western Colorado
in over 5 decades (according to Mother-in-law's memory). The last
*big* storm here was in the early 80s, and that was just a foot of
snow.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

Cleatarrior

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Dec 8, 2009, 3:14:10 PM12/8/09
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Wow!

I hope you can hire some kids to help you dig out.

Be careful with that stuff, bad for the back , etc.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 8, 2009, 3:29:10 PM12/8/09
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I have discovered an upside to this snow... It's very "dry".
Couldn't make any snowballs out of it. I *can*, however, sweep it off
my porch, and use a push broom on the walkways. That's a good thing
(no heavy lifting there). It's *cold* though.

Howard Brazee

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Dec 8, 2009, 3:57:28 PM12/8/09
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:29:10 -0800 (PST), "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
<Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I have discovered an upside to this snow... It's very "dry".
>Couldn't make any snowballs out of it. I *can*, however, sweep it off
>my porch, and use a push broom on the walkways. That's a good thing
>(no heavy lifting there). It's *cold* though.

That dry snow is easy to get off of cars as well. But if it's still
snowing, I don't turn on the heater for short trips, to avoid turning
subsequent snow into ice.

I would like to have a propane heater built into cars - designed for
quick defroster heat. I remember someone had a Volkswagen Beetle
with a gas heater that was instantly hot. I can see car makers not
wanting anything that can make mileage look bad, but since wires in
the windshield is supposed to be dangerous (at least if it is in
straight lines), we should have a better defroster.

It costs energy for people to sit and wait for their car heaters to
warm up their cars, and in some weather, we can start driving once our
windshield clears - only to have it fog and ice up in a block. That's
dangerous.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:12:21 PM12/8/09
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On Dec 8, 1:57 pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:29:10 -0800 (PST), "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
>
> <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >I have discovered an upside to this snow...  It's very "dry".
> >Couldn't make any snowballs out of it.  I *can*, however, sweep it off
> >my porch, and use a push broom on the walkways.  That's a good thing
> >(no heavy lifting there).  It's *cold* though.
>
> That dry snow is easy to get off of cars as well.   But if it's still
> snowing, I don't turn on the heater for short trips, to avoid turning
> subsequent snow into ice.

Oh yeah, tell me about it.

> I would like to have a propane heater built into cars - designed for
> quick defroster heat.   I remember someone had a Volkswagen Beetle
> with a gas heater that was instantly hot.   I can see car makers not
> wanting anything that can make mileage look bad, but since wires in
> the windshield is supposed to be dangerous (at least if it is in
> straight lines), we should have a better defroster.

<grin> we have a remote start for the vehicle (and it's an ethanol
drinker), so we can get it nice and warm, with all the crap on the
windows gone. It's that crap on the roof that's a pain here (hit the
brakes, and it all slides down over the front window - I have a Jeep).

KG

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:55:08 AM12/9/09
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On Dec 8, 12:29 pm, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

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> I have discovered an upside to this snow...  It's very "dry".


awesome for skiing.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 9, 2009, 10:41:32 AM12/9/09
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Yes, back when I used to be able to ski. Powderhorn was *the* best
resort in Colorado (and not just because it is less than 30 minutes
from where I lived). I skied Vail, Aspen, Snowmass, and Powderhorn.
The other three were always like concrete, but ours had "puffy" snow
(that's what I called it). Great stuff.

Cleatarrior

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Dec 9, 2009, 1:22:52 PM12/9/09
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It was so dry even the areas that pack down from my truck just lifted
like sheets of styrofoam!

On the downside it was -19 - ouch.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:41:43 PM12/9/09
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I *like* the way your mind works! Not quite that dry, but hey...

>
> On the downside it was -19 - ouch.

Well, not sure it was *that* cold, but I was inside and warm, so the
cold was okay *out there*.

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 9, 2009, 7:27:05 PM12/9/09
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It snowed about an inch in KC off of the same storm... so much for the
"monster winter storm" that was widely predicted. It's damned cold
though!!!!

MartyB in KC

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 9, 2009, 7:29:25 PM12/9/09
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Howard Brazee said:
> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:29:10 -0800 (PST), "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
> <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I have discovered an upside to this snow... It's very "dry".
>> Couldn't make any snowballs out of it. I *can*, however, sweep it
>> off my porch, and use a push broom on the walkways. That's a good
>> thing (no heavy lifting there). It's *cold* though.
>
> That dry snow is easy to get off of cars as well. But if it's still
> snowing, I don't turn on the heater for short trips, to avoid turning
> subsequent snow into ice.
>
> I would like to have a propane heater built into cars - designed for
> quick defroster heat. I remember someone had a Volkswagen Beetle
> with a gas heater that was instantly hot. I can see car makers not
> wanting anything that can make mileage look bad, but since wires in
> the windshield is supposed to be dangerous (at least if it is in
> straight lines), we should have a better defroster.
>
> It costs energy for people to sit and wait for their car heaters to
> warm up their cars, and in some weather, we can start driving once our
> windshield clears - only to have it fog and ice up in a block. That's
> dangerous.

There was never a more dangerous and unreliable piece of equipment added to
a car than the VW air cooled engine gas heater. If it wasn't working right,
the fumes were horrible, and they tended to cause fires, and often stopped
working altogether. Other than that they worked great.

MartyB in KC

Howard Brazee

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Dec 9, 2009, 8:40:46 PM12/9/09
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On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:29:25 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

>> It costs energy for people to sit and wait for their car heaters to
>> warm up their cars, and in some weather, we can start driving once our
>> windshield clears - only to have it fog and ice up in a block. That's
>> dangerous.
>
>There was never a more dangerous and unreliable piece of equipment added to
>a car than the VW air cooled engine gas heater. If it wasn't working right,
>the fumes were horrible, and they tended to cause fires, and often stopped
>working altogether. Other than that they worked great.

Which doesn't mean they couldn't make a safe propane heater now.

to welker @cumshot.com 4th and 2 BAHAHAHA

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Dec 10, 2009, 8:22:55 AM12/10/09
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"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
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12" in Indianapolis right now

Cleatarrior

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Dec 10, 2009, 12:07:50 PM12/10/09
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It looks like Stalingrad from what I saw on the news, I guess no more
griping about the temps here...

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 10, 2009, 6:07:16 PM12/10/09
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On Dec 9, 5:27 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-

Awww, poor Marty. Thank whatever you believe in, that you were far
enough "south". At least that's my theory of the snow and ice that
came from what hit us on Tuesday. We *still* have snow on the ground
(which is highly unusual for us), about 18 inches in some areas and as
low as 8 in others. Of course, we have the 18 <sigh>.

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 11, 2009, 6:59:25 PM12/11/09
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Trust me, we were all overjoyed around here that the weatherman's dire
predictions didn't pan out... again...

Warmed up today too, enough to do the old melt and blacken.


Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 12, 2009, 12:23:12 PM12/12/09
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On Dec 11, 4:59 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-

See, usually that's what happens here. It snows, by the afternoon on
the day after snowfall (at the latest) the snow has all melted off.
We almost never have any standing snow for more than a day or two.
The parking lot at the elementary school has a "pile" of snow that is
at least 10 feet tall, and takes up for parking spaces.

I'm generally more reliable on weather forecasting in the winter than
the local weather guys, in fact, I'm *always* more reliable than they
are.

Cleatarrior

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Dec 12, 2009, 1:58:40 PM12/12/09
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Tried grilling when it was 9 below, gotta love those infrared burners,
worked out OK.

Fred Waiss, Sr.

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Dec 13, 2009, 7:20:37 PM12/13/09
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"Cleatarrior" <nos...@xx.block> wrote in message
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We got 12-15 inches here in SW Wisconsin. Plus wind 20-35 mph with gusts to 70.
Below 0 Wed. night. And unlike Colorado, this stuff will be here till April,
under however many other inches we get before then. We had over 350 people call
in at work (across 3 shifts)--a record.

Cleatarrior

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Dec 14, 2009, 1:17:17 AM12/14/09
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You live in serious country my friend.

The winds and sun already erased most of what we had in mere days.

Altitude, heckuva an advantage.

Stay warm.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 14, 2009, 12:55:58 PM12/14/09
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We got rain yesterday, which helped a great deal in getting rid of the
remaining snow (though some still remains).

I remember living in Maine! I have complete empathy/sympathy for
Fred, truly. Stay warm guy!

Cleatarrior

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Dec 14, 2009, 1:53:50 PM12/14/09
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Amazing, the Western slope is really a whole other climate.

> I remember living in Maine! I have complete empathy/sympathy for
> Fred, truly. Stay warm guy!

Wow, hardy folk up north.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 14, 2009, 5:13:22 PM12/14/09
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Yeah, we really are a whole other climate (high desert valley).

> > I remember living in Maine!  I have complete empathy/sympathy for
> > Fred, truly.  Stay warm guy!
>
> Wow, hardy folk up north.

There is much to be said for cold without the humidity of other
places. A good thing about high desert valleys.

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 16, 2009, 8:16:34 PM12/16/09
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I gotta wonder if that cold humidity thing is as overrated as the hot
humidity thing. "It's a dry heat." Yeah, right. Umm... your shoes are
smokin'...

;-)

MartyB

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Dec 17, 2009, 11:43:33 AM12/17/09
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On Dec 16, 6:16 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-

Yeah, once you get over 102°-105°, it's all just frickin' hot. That's
a pretty normal temp in our summers.

However, we have had subzero temps here, and it isn't as cold as the
same temp in Maine. Hell, 32° in Maine felt so much more cold than it
does here, I can actually go out briefly, without a coat here.

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