Denver: WORST DEFENSIVE PERFORMANCE IN RECENT MEMORY -- Considering The Woeful Opposition!
God'sLittleAnus
and the head coach -- whatever his name is-- would be fired and paid
off.
Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
collected to date!
45...@mydaja.com
Well, you don't own them. So it is a mute point. The Bronco's are a
good team, and a surprise with the new coach. They will do well. They
just got out muscled, the last two games. Chris Sim's is nothing like
his father, neither was Brian Greise. Both can't read the field to
well. I'm sure the Bronco's will make adjustments.
As for the Skins!! Wow!! best effort, in a very long time. First game,
I enjoyed watching in a while!!
Hail to the Redskins!!!
Biff
<perry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've said since day one... DON'T LET SIMS PLAY HERE! and to give him
a couple of mil a year. stupid stupid stupid.
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Howard Brazee
<perry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
>collected to date!
And we were all so looking forward to a quarterback controversy!
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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
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Biff
wrote:
>Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote in
>news:0ja1g5d5jn1qsln4d...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:12:08 -0800 (PST), "God'sLittleAnus"
>> <perry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
>>>collected to date!
>>
>> And we were all so looking forward to a quarterback controversy!
>>
>
>Which we still may get after Sims gets some reps in practice.
he's never even been mediocre. why would we think he'd suddenly
develop talent now?
Adam Smith
> Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote innews:0ja1g5d5jn1qsln4d...@4ax.com:
>
> > <perryneh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
> >>collected to date!
>
> > And we were all so looking forward to a quarterback controversy!
>
But he's had reps in practice. He played in preseason games, which are
probably even better. What he hasn't had for several years now is
playing time in regular-season games. And unfortunately, that's what
seems to matter most.
That's kind of the point I was trying to make last week, even if I
didn't make it very well. Simms may well still have good potential as
a starting quarterback over the long run; I really don't know enough
about him to say one way or the other on that point. But if he has to
play now, he's going to have to go through all the aches and pains of
a QB who's getting his first serious playing time since... '05?
Earlier? The question last week was "What do we have to lose by
playing Simms?" The answer, we now know, is "Probably some games we
should have won."
That's not to claim the Broncos were dominating the first half, and
it's not to deny that the Red***ns were playing very good football
yesterday (great football by their recent standards). There were
problems yesterday that went beyond Orton's leg. But when Orton went
out, the offense absolutely collapsed: 269 yards of total offense in
the first half, 36 in the second half. I'm sure the Red***ns'
coaching staff deserves some credit for halftime adjustments, but when
your passing game goes from 193 net yards in the first half to -8 in
the second half, it's more than just adjustments by the defense.
Cleatarrior
> If I own
-plonk-
Cleatarrior
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:12:08 -0800 (PST), "God'sLittleAnus"
> <perry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If I owned the Broncos, all starters would be benched the next game
>> and the head coach -- whatever his name is-- would be fired and paid
>> off.
>>
>> Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
>> collected to date!
>
> I've said since day one... DON'T LET SIMS PLAY HERE! and to give him
> a couple of mil a year. stupid stupid stupid.
The better backup QB on the market at the time was?
Cleatarrior
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:33:30 +0000 (UTC), Clark <c...@uswest.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote in
>> news:0ja1g5d5jn1qsln4d...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:12:08 -0800 (PST), "God'sLittleAnus"
>>> <perry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
>>>> collected to date!
>>> And we were all so looking forward to a quarterback controversy!
>>>
>> Which we still may get after Sims gets some reps in practice.
>
> he's never even been mediocre. why would we think he'd suddenly
> develop talent now?
Coaching? ;-)
KG
> But when Orton went
> out, the offense absolutely collapsed: 269 yards of total offense in
> the first half, 36 in the second half.
<snip>
That is quite a contrast.
Cleatarrior
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:33:30 +0000 (UTC), Clark <c...@uswest.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote in
>> news:0ja1g5d5jn1qsln4d...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:12:08 -0800 (PST), "God'sLittleAnus"
>>> <perry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
>>>> collected to date!
>>> And we were all so looking forward to a quarterback controversy!
>>>
>> Which we still may get after Sims gets some reps in practice.
>
> he's never even been mediocre. why would we think he'd suddenly
> develop talent now?
> --
Great coaching?
Adam Smith
out that the defense played pretty well considering the circumstances.
The Red***ns got their points from:
* A solid opening drive for a TD.
* A semi-fake FG that went for a TD.
* A solid fourth-quarter drive for a FG.
* A drive that scored a TD with 3 minutes left in the game, at which
point the Broncos' defense had been on the field for over 20 minutes
in the second half alone.
* A FG after the defense forced a 3-and-out following a turnover on
downs.
Of those, the defense can't be blamed for the special teams TD or for
that final FG. The Red***ns' last TD came because the defense was
exhausted from spending nearly the entire second half on the field and
getting run down. A little more ToP from the Broncos in the second
half would have prevented that by running out the clock if nothing
else.
The defense put in a performance that should have allowed only 10
points. It was offense and special teams that dropped the ball.
Adam Smith
[snip]
Whoops, sorry about posting Broncos talk in your NG, Washington fans.
I didn't realize our little troll buddy was crossposting.
3Jane.
No worries, it's nice to have an outside perspective. We used to get
a lot of crossposting trolls/shittalkers etc. but now they mostly
don't bother because the Skins suck so bad, there's really not a lot
they can say that we don't say ourselves every week (except for the
one guy who thinks Snyder is doing a great job).
Cleatarrior
Also known as the Jokeland Faider Dilemma.
Otoh, for pure apathy there is the Cardinals group. They might have
generated a dozen or so posts even into the SB.
Adam Smith
I lived in Tucson for 2.5 years from mid-'05 to January '08. I think
in that time I saw more cars with Broncos, Raiders and Cowboys window
stickers than I did Cardinals stickers. And I don't mean combined --
I mean I saw more of EACH of those stickers.
ldnayman
No problem. We love the B***cos and would be happy to host them again
for another beatdown.
Cleatarrior
I believe it!
SoCal refugees make up a lot of Az.
New Mexico gets a huge Cowboy fan base too.
Did the heat chase you out of Tucson?
Jim Carr
> I lived in Tucson for 2.5 years from mid-'05 to January '08. I think
> in that time I saw more cars with Broncos, Raiders and Cowboys window
> stickers than I did Cardinals stickers. And I don't mean combined --
> I mean I saw more of EACH of those stickers.
I live in Phoenix. It's nothing like other areas with NFL teams. Most
people in AZ are not native, so there's no strong base of homers. Before
they bamboozled the citizens into building a new stadium, they rarely
sold out a game. When they did, it was for the Cowboys or some other
team with a strong national pull.
Even now, there isn't any real Cardinal fever. They care about Sun
Devils, but I think that's because lots of people attended the college.
I'd say for most folks the Cards are an afterthought.
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Cleatarrior
It seemed like when they were playing at Sun Devil Stadium in the late
80s you'd see almost as many fans for the opposing team as for the Cards.
From what I've seen in the new facility that might be a bit less so.
Of course that might be a positive for some of the more egotistical
players, less reason to get the big head.
Seems like the last big deal down there was when John Cooper was
coaching ASU.
Now Erickson is tossing Osweiler to the wolves since the Elway departure.
Biff
wrote:
an equal backup for lots less cash would have been either you or me.
either of us could have moved that offense 30 yards in 30 minutes. he
wasn't good in college and wasn't good in the pros. he makes kyle
orton look like joe freakin montana.
Biff
wrote:
that's a long shot. he was under gruden already wasn't he? kinda
sucked there?
Biff
wrote:
super amazing coaching? does your next post say Extra Great
Coaching?? :)
hoodie jr would have to coach his ass off and probably take the reps
himself to pull that off.
Biff
the skins are a lousy team who was without their best player. they
already lost to the lions. this is probably the one game the broncos
should have won this season and they could have.
RichL
Hey Jim, you must realize that the DC area has a very large transient
population compared with most cities. Still, we maintain a hard-core
fan base (even when we're rotten).
Jim Carr
> Hey Jim, you must realize that the DC area has a very large transient
> population compared with most cities. Still, we maintain a hard-core
> fan base (even when we're rotten).
Just to give you an idea, I worked at a company with 35 people. There
were just four people born and raised in Arizona. The Phoenix metro
population in 1960 was 750,000. Now it's about 3,500,000. That's a
growth of 460%. By contrast the DC-MD-VA metro area went from 2.3M to
4.9M. That's a growth of 213%.
In other words the DC area has a much larger base of natives in sheer
numbers and as a percentage.
Adam Smith
Touche.
Adam Smith
It didn't help, but my main reason for leaving was hating my job there
working for a defense contractor. (Not out of any political/moral
issue, I just hated what I was actually doing.)
Adam Smith
> RichL wrote:
> > Hey Jim, you must realize that the DC area has a very large transient
> > population compared with most cities. Still, we maintain a hard-core
> > fan base (even when we're rotten).
>
> Just to give you an idea, I worked at a company with 35 people. There
> were just four people born and raised in Arizona. The Phoenix metro
> population in 1960 was 750,000. Now it's about 3,500,000. That's a
> growth of 460%. By contrast the DC-MD-VA metro area went from 2.3M to
> 4.9M. That's a growth of 213%.
>
> In other words the DC area has a much larger base of natives in sheer
> numbers and as a percentage.
Yeah, I think you hit on the reason for Cardinal-apathy here. Most
die-hard fans become fans either because it's passed down by their
families, or through peer bonding with other kids in the
neighborhood. When you've got a large transient or recently-arrived
population like Arizona has, you don't get either of those.
Jim Carr
> Yeah, I think you hit on the reason for Cardinal-apathy here. Most
> die-hard fans become fans either because it's passed down by their
> families, or through peer bonding with other kids in the
> neighborhood. When you've got a large transient or recently-arrived
> population like Arizona has, you don't get either of those.
That's it in a nutshell. Combine that with the fact that the Cardinals
are a transplanted team. They haven't even been around for a generation.
Cleatarrior
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:58:42 -0700, Cleatarrior <nos...@xx.block>
> wrote:
>
>> Biff wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:12:08 -0800 (PST), "God'sLittleAnus"
>>> <perry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I owned the Broncos, all starters would be benched the next game
>>>> and the head coach -- whatever his name is-- would be fired and paid
>>>> off.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
>>>> collected to date!
>>> I've said since day one... DON'T LET SIMS PLAY HERE! and to give him
>>> a couple of mil a year. stupid stupid stupid.
>> The better backup QB on the market at the time was?
>
> an equal backup for lots less cash would have been either you or me.
> either of us could have moved that offense 30 yards in 30 minutes. he
> wasn't good in college and wasn't good in the pros. he makes kyle
> orton look like joe freakin montana.
Well hang on, his stats in college weren't all that bad:
http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/Chris_Simms#College_statistics
Passing Rushing
Comp Att Yards TDs Int Rating Att Yds Avg TD
535 911 7,094 58 21 138.4 159 -137 -0.2 10
Orton, for example was:
Passing Rushing
Att Comp Pct Yds TD Int Rating Att Yds Avg TD
1336 786 58.8 9,337 62 28 128.7 271 316 1.2 6
So kind of a push based on n college.
In the NFL Simms has so far underperformed though.
Cleatarrior
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:02:46 -0700, Cleatarrior <nos...@xx.block>
> wrote:
>
>> Biff wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:33:30 +0000 (UTC), Clark <c...@uswest.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote in
>>>> news:0ja1g5d5jn1qsln4d...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:12:08 -0800 (PST), "God'sLittleAnus"
>>>>> <perry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
>>>>>> collected to date!
>>>>> And we were all so looking forward to a quarterback controversy!
>>>>>
>>>> Which we still may get after Sims gets some reps in practice.
>>> he's never even been mediocre. why would we think he'd suddenly
>>> develop talent now?
>> Coaching? ;-)
>
> that's a long shot. he was under gruden already wasn't he? kinda
> sucked there?
I was referring to our new mastermind...
Cleatarrior
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:45:43 -0700, Cleatarrior <nos...@xx.block>
> wrote:
>
>> Biff wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:33:30 +0000 (UTC), Clark <c...@uswest.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote in
>>>> news:0ja1g5d5jn1qsln4d...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:12:08 -0800 (PST), "God'sLittleAnus"
>>>>> <perry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
>>>>>> collected to date!
>>>>> And we were all so looking forward to a quarterback controversy!
>>>>>
>>>> Which we still may get after Sims gets some reps in practice.
>>> he's never even been mediocre. why would we think he'd suddenly
>>> develop talent now?
>>> --
>> Great coaching?
>
> super amazing coaching? does your next post say Extra Great
> Coaching?? :)
>
> hoodie jr would have to coach his ass off and probably take the reps
> himself to pull that off.
Well, if he can make Cassel into Brady...
Cleatarrior
Yup, that's more than enough. I was down there some years back when Mt.
Lemmon burned, hot and smoke-filled makes for a crappy visit.
Howard Brazee
<newsg...@azwebpages.com> wrote:
>> Yeah, I think you hit on the reason for Cardinal-apathy here. Most
>> die-hard fans become fans either because it's passed down by their
>> families, or through peer bonding with other kids in the
>> neighborhood. When you've got a large transient or recently-arrived
>> population like Arizona has, you don't get either of those.
>
>That's it in a nutshell. Combine that with the fact that the Cardinals
>are a transplanted team. They haven't even been around for a generation.
Does Indianapolis have this problem?
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"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
Scott M. Kozel
Plus the Redskins' fan base extends well into Virginia and Maryland, at
least 100 miles, into areas with far less transiency of residence. A
120 mile circle around D.C. includes about 10 million population, as it
includes metro areas like Baltimore, Annapolis, Fredericksburg,
Charlottesville, Richmond, and Petersburg.
Jim Carr
> Plus the Redskins' fan base extends well into Virginia and Maryland, at
> least 100 miles, into areas with far less transiency of residence. A
> 120 mile circle around D.C. includes about 10 million population, as it
> includes metro areas like Baltimore, Annapolis, Fredericksburg,
> Charlottesville, Richmond, and Petersburg.
Good point. The only things around Phoenix are mountains and the desert.
RichL
> That's it in a nutshell. Combine that with the fact that the Cardinals
> are a transplanted team. They haven't even been around for a
> generation.
That's a bigger factor, in my opinion.
Also, there seems to be what I'd call a Lower West Coast apathy factor
(e.g., LA couldn't support either the Rams or the Raiders). Granted
Phoenix is a bit away from there geographically, but somehow I get the
feeling that pro football isn't an obsession with Arizonans.
RichL
Among the old-timers it extends much farther than that, from the days
when there weren't Panthers and Falcons.
Jim Carr
Oh, it is. Just not for the Cardinals. There bars around here that cater
to specific teams. I happen go to a Redskins bar. Remember, I told you
that they would sell out Sun Devil Stadium when the Cowboys would come
to town.
Walter Bushell
Jim Carr <newsg...@azwebpages.com> wrote:
> Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
> > Plus the Redskins' fan base extends well into Virginia and Maryland, at
> > least 100 miles, into areas with far less transiency of residence. A
> > 120 mile circle around D.C. includes about 10 million population, as it
> > includes metro areas like Baltimore, Annapolis, Fredericksburg,
> > Charlottesville, Richmond, and Petersburg.
>
> Good point. The only things around Phoenix are mountains and the desert.
Someone mentioned Indianapolis which also has a populated area around
it, in addition it has had success on the field for quite a while. It
may be Indian No Place, but
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RickyBobby
<45...@mydaja.com> wrote in message
news:5vr0g55kcdob909lq...@4ax.com...
>>and the head coach -- whatever his name is-- would be fired and paid
>>off.
>>
>>collected to date!
>
> good team, and a surprise with the new coach. They will do well. They
> just got out muscled, the last two games. Chris Sim's is nothing like
> his father, neither was Brian Greise. Both can't read the field to
> well. I'm sure the Bronco's will make adjustments.
>
> As for the Skins!! Wow!! best effort, in a very long time. First game,
> I enjoyed watching in a while!!
>
> Hail to the Redskins!!!
It is a moot point. Why do so many people call it a mute point?
Howard Brazee
<newsg...@azwebpages.com> wrote:
>Oh, it is. Just not for the Cardinals. There bars around here that cater
>to specific teams. I happen go to a Redskins bar. Remember, I told you
>that they would sell out Sun Devil Stadium when the Cowboys would come
>to town.
I know where there's a Packers bar at Rocky Flats. I suppose we have
a decent variety of specific team bars in Colorado too.
ldnayman
> Oh, it is. Just not for the Cardinals. There bars around here that cater
> to specific teams. I happen go to a Redskins bar. Remember, I told you
> that they would sell out Sun Devil Stadium when the Cowboys would come
> to town.
Just curious - do you hang out with anyone at the Skins bar? Have you
found a group that takes to your unique brand of stat-laden know it
all-ity?
I'm guessing you haven't.
Jim Carr
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:23:23 -0700, Jim Carr
> <newsg...@azwebpages.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, it is. Just not for the Cardinals. There bars around here that cater
>> to specific teams. I happen go to a Redskins bar. Remember, I told you
>> that they would sell out Sun Devil Stadium when the Cowboys would come
>> to town.
>
> I know where there's a Packers bar at Rocky Flats. I suppose we have
> a decent variety of specific team bars in Colorado too.
>
I took a six month road trip around the country. Every city seems to
have bars for a few specific teams. In my experience I could always find
one for the Cowboys, Packers, Raiders, Steelers and Broncos. This was in
the late '90s, so NE and Indy hadn't gotten all popular. I had to watch
all the games in sports bars, but I rarely saw people wearing jerseys
for any other teams.
Interestingly, I would rarely ever see a Redskins jersey, much less a
bar. And yet they are neck and neck with the Cowboys in terms of net
worth. The Redskins have a huge and devoted local fan base (fanatical,
really). They are unlike most other teams in that regard. The Cardinals
are at the other end of the spectrum.
Scott M. Kozel
>
> Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
>> Plus the Redskins' fan base extends well into Virginia and Maryland,
>> at least 100 miles, into areas with far less transiency of residence.
>> A 120 mile circle around D.C. includes about 10 million population, as
>> it includes metro areas like Baltimore, Annapolis, Fredericksburg,
>> Charlottesville, Richmond, and Petersburg.
>
> Good point. The only things around Phoenix are mountains and the desert.
Tucson is not far away ... have they seen the same rapid growth and high
level of transiency as does Phoenix?
Jim Carr
No, Tucson hasn't grown at nearly the rate of Phoenix. And they aren't
nearly as close as people seem to think, especially those who live on
the east coast. Take a look at this map of Phoenix and Tucson:
http://tinyurl.com/TucsonPhoenixMap
It's about 120 miles from city center to city center. Take a look at how
there really is nothing in between. That's roughly the distance from
Wilmington, Delaware, to Manassas, Virginia, which you can see here:
I mean, who thinks of Wilmington being close to Manassas?
45...@mydaja.com
wrote:
>
>It is a moot point. Why do so many people call it a mute point?
Noun
Singular
moot point
Plural
moot points
moot point (plural moot points)
1. An issue that is subject to, or open for discussion or debate;
originally, one to be definitively determined by an assembly of the
people.
* 2009, Barney Hoskyns, Lowside of the Road: A Life of Tom
Waits, Faber & Faber 2009, p. 155:
Exactly which of the songs on Small Change originated
in London is a moot point.
2. (US) An issue regarded as potentially debatable, but no longer
practically applicable. Although the idea may still be worth debating
and exploring academically, and such discussion may be useful for
addressing similar issues in the future, the idea has been rendered
irrelevant for the present issue.
Until we rebuild downtown, whether we build more parking
spaces is a moot point.
[edit] Usage notes
* The first usage given above is the original meaning of the
phrase, and is still dominant in the UK.
* The second usage given is modern and increasingly popular,
possibly because of the association with moot court.
[edit] Translations
Typing while tired.
Scott M. Kozel
Petersburg VA is 125 miles from D.C., and there are plenty of Redskins
fans there. Ditto for Richmond VA, where I live, 105 miles from D.C.
Walter Bushell
Jim Carr <newsg...@azwebpages.com> wrote:
> It's about 120 miles from city center to city center. Take a look at how
> there really is nothing in between. That's roughly the distance from
> Wilmington, Delaware, to Manassas, Virginia, which you can see here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/DE-VA-Map
>
> I mean, who thinks of Wilmington being close to Manassas?
>
Because of the people between. Out there one might drive 100 miles to
get hamburgers.
Howard Brazee
>>It is a moot point. Why do so many people call it a mute point?
>
>Noun
>
>Singular
>moot point
...
I think I'll pour over your definition and find out if your right...
8^)
Jim Carr
> Petersburg VA is 125 miles from D.C., and there are plenty of Redskins
> fans there. Ditto for Richmond VA, where I live, 105 miles from D.C.
I'm sure there are. What I'm trying to explain is that there's Phoenix
and then there's Tucson. In between there ain't shit. Did you look at
the maps? Extending out from DC, everybody is connected for many, many
miles. By that I mean someone might live in Gaithersburg and work with
somebody who lives in Rockville who gets her hair done in Bethesda by a
woman who lives in Carderock whose gardener lives in Fairfax whose
plumber is based in Centreville whose sister blah blah blah. Everybody
is connected for miles around. You're never separated by more than a few
people from someone who actually attended the game.
There's nothing between Phoenix and Tucson except miles of desert. To
the north there's Flagstaff, which requires a drive 6,000 feet up
through the mountains. Again, there's nothing in between. Truth is,
there's no other city worth mentioning in the entire state.
To put it in perspective, the entire state of Maryland is 32,133 square
kilometers. Arizona has 48,590 square kilometers of national forest land
and another 6,000 in national parks. All of Washington, DC, is 160
square kilometers. The two biggest city parks in Phoenix total over 100
square kilometers.
The Phoenix metro area is like an island. The local sports really don't
reach into other parts of the state any more than any other team would.
Jim Carr
>> http://tinyurl.com/DE-VA-Map
>>
>> I mean, who thinks of Wilmington being close to Manassas?
>>
>
> Because of the people between. Out there one might drive 100 miles to
> get hamburgers.
Basically, yeh. It's very different out here. The houses on my block all
have lots of 1/4 to 1/3 acre. We all have green lawns and citrus trees
because 2x a month for 8 months out of the year we get irrigation from
the canals that flood our yards with several inches of water. For the
other months we get it once per month. This costs a whopping $75 per year.
And yet I literally walk to the local drug store, McDonald's, liquor
store, Jack in the Box, Burger King, Gyro shop, French restaurant,
Spanish restaurant, muffler shop, repair shop, elementary school, park,
Sam's Club, music store, etc. It's a suburb and city all wrapped up into
one.
Meanwhile, I can hop in the car and within 45 minutes be in the desert
where people go to fire their machine guns. I can be on an Indian
reservation that consists of a fancy casino and a bunch of run down
shacks. I can be well on my way to Tucson where the are tiny communities
that, like you say, have to drive many miles just to get a burger.
Check out the Wiki page on Phoenix. About 1/3 of the way down they have
a great panoramic shot of the city.
Jim Carr
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:06:03 -0500, 45...@mydaja.com wrote:
>
>>> It is a moot point. Why do so many people call it a mute point?
>> Noun
>>
>> Singular
>> moot point
>
> ...
>
> I think I'll pour over your definition and find out if your right...
> 8^)
This kind of discussion makes me loose my mind. Another words it's just
one more thing that makes me crazy in this doggie dog world.
Scott M. Kozel
So then what team would the folks around Tucson root for?
In the case of your example Wilmington DE, they are only 30 miles from
the Igles. They are also closer to Baltimore than to the Redskins.
Biff
wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:06:03 -0500, 45...@mydaja.com wrote:
>
>>>It is a moot point. Why do so many people call it a mute point?
>>
>>Noun
>>
>>Singular
>>moot point
>
>...
>
>I think I'll pour over your definition and find out if your right...
>8^)
he is...
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Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful,
beautiful flamingo, flying across in front of a beautiful
sunset? And he's carrying a beautiful rose in his beak,
and also he's carrying a very beautiful painting with his
feet. And also, you're drunk.
Jim Carr
> So then what team would the folks around Tucson root for?
Go to the website of the daily newspaper for Tucson:
http://tucsoncitizen.com/
Check out the sports page. See any Cardinals coverage? Nope. They are
into the University of Arizona.
> In the case of your example Wilmington DE, they are only 30 miles from
> the Igles. They are also closer to Baltimore than to the Redskins.
My point was that you said that Tucson is not very far from Phoenix.
What I was pointing out is that Tucson is to Phoenix as Wilmington is to
Manassas in terms of distance. In terms of population along the way,
there's no comparison.
Scott M. Kozel
> Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
>> So then what team would the folks around Tucson root for?
>
> Go to the website of the daily newspaper for Tucson:
> http://tucsoncitizen.com/
>
> Check out the sports page. See any Cardinals coverage? Nope. They are
> into the University of Arizona.
>
>> In the case of your example Wilmington DE, they are only 30 miles from
>> the Igles. They are also closer to Baltimore than to the Redskins.
>
> My point was that you said that Tucson is not very far from Phoenix.
> What I was pointing out is that Tucson is to Phoenix as Wilmington is to
> Manassas in terms of distance.
Distance alone, about the same as Richmond and Petersburg, which have
plenty of Redskins fans.
> In terms of population along the way, there's no comparison.
I would agree with that.
I'm still curious as to what NFL team is most popular around the Tucson
area. It is much closer to Phoenix than to the nearest other NFL cities.
Adam Smith
> I'm still curious as to what NFL team is most popular around the Tucson
> area. It is much closer to Phoenix than to the nearest other NFL cities.
Like I said up-thread, whichever team they or their families were fans
of before they came to Tucson, or before the Cardinals came to
Phoenix. I mentioned before seeing more Broncos, Raiders, and Cowboys
gear/decorations than Cardinals when I lived in Tucson. I could
probably add another half-dozen teams to that list if I'd been keeping
count. This is in addition to what Jim said about UA being big in
Tucson. It's kind of like Arkansas in that respect, where the
Razorbacks are a bigger deal than any NFL team.
I don't know if the geographic distance between population centers has
a lot to do with Card-apathy or not. I guess to answer that question
you'd need to find a similar situation where an NFL team was recently
moved into an area with a large transient population, but without a
higher overall population density.
One other thing: I never made it up to Phoenix myself when I lived in
Tucson, but I've heard it described as being like LA in the sense of
having a lot of pretty-looking but fairly vapid people. I don't know
how deep the similarities run or how much that has to do with Card-
apathy, but there you are. (Jim could probably comment on this better
than I could.)
Adam Smith
> Biff wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:58:42 -0700, Cleatarrior <nos...@xx.block>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Biff wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:12:08 -0800 (PST), "God'sLittleAnus"
> >>> <perryneh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> If I owned the Broncos, all starters would be benched the next game
> >>>> and the head coach -- whatever his name is-- would be fired and paid
> >>>> off.
>
> >>>> Chris Sims, never any good, should quit and pay back his salary
> >>>> collected to date!
> >>> a couple of mil a year. stupid stupid stupid.
> >> The better backup QB on the market at the time was?
>
> > an equal backup for lots less cash would have been either you or me.
> > either of us could have moved that offense 30 yards in 30 minutes. he
> > wasn't good in college and wasn't good in the pros. he makes kyle
> > orton look like joe freakin montana.
>
> Well hang on, his stats in college weren't all that bad:
>
> http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/Chris_Simms#College_statistics
>
> Passing Rushing
>
> Comp Att Yards TDs Int Rating Att Yds Avg TD
>
> 535 911 7,094 58 21 138.4 159 -137 -0.2 10
>
> Orton, for example was:
>
> Passing Rushing
>
> Att Comp Pct Yds TD Int Rating Att Yds Avg TD
>
> 1336 786 58.8 9,337 62 28 128.7 271 316 1.2 6
>
> So kind of a push based on n college.
>
> In the NFL Simms has so far underperformed though.
The paragraphs on "College Career" from that site are pretty
interesting.
"Simms, who played college football at the University of Texas at
Austin, was heavily criticized for putting up big numbers against
average or weaker teams, but consistently failing to deliver in big
games and throwing interceptions, most notably in games against Big 12
South rival Oklahoma, against whom Simms finished 0-3. In the 2001
contest, he tossed four interceptions in a 14-3 loss. He also had a
poor performance against Colorado in the 2001 Big 12 conference
championship game where he fumbled and threw four interceptions, the
last being returned for a touchdown— all before the close of the first
half.[2] He was benched and Major Applewhite replaced him."
You almost wonder if there's a Jack Elway thing going on here. Maybe
Simms isn't all that much into football, but because of his physical
aptitude for it and because he has a Hall-of-Fame dad he feels like
it's something he has to do?
"Orton attended Purdue University, where he played for the Purdue
Boilermakers football team. At Purdue, Orton wore uniform No. 18 in
honor of former Nebraska Cornhuskers' quarterback Brook Berringer.
Orton tied former Purdue quarterback Drew Brees' record for the number
of passing yards in a game (522 vs. Indiana Hoosiers) and is one of
only three Purdue quarterbacks to start at least three consecutive
bowl games (Brees and Mark Herrmann being the other two). Orton
started in the 2001 Sun Bowl, the 2002 Sun Bowl, the 2003 Capital One
Bowl, and the 2004 Sun Bowl. During his time at Purdue, Orton joined
the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity. In 2004, Orton was the preseason third-
team "All-American" quarterback, behind USC's Matt Leinart and
Oklahoma's Jason White. Orton had an impressive start to the season,
having led Purdue to a 5-0 start with 18 touchdowns and no
interceptions. Orton was touted as the front runner for the Heisman
Trophy, until he received multiple injuries in consecutive games
against the Michigan Wolverines and Northwestern Wildcats that forced
him out of his starting position for a month."
This sounds ominously similar to his pro career. Orton sounds to me
like a guy who, while not extremely well-gifted physically, loves the
game and has a great competitive fire, and manages to have at least
modest success through sheer hard work. But every time he gets
something good going, whether at Purdue or with the Bears or now with
the Broncos, he gets injured.
Adam Smith
> moot point (plural moot points)
>
> 1. An issue that is subject to, or open for discussion or debate;
> originally, one to be definitively determined by an assembly of the
> people.
> * 2009, Barney Hoskyns, Lowside of the Road: A Life of Tom
> Waits, Faber & Faber 2009, p. 155:
>
> Exactly which of the songs on Small Change originated
> in London is a moot point.
This is interesting because I've heard the word "moot" used as a verb
meaning "to bring up for discussion", as in something like "The issue
of parking fees for downtown street parking was mooted at last night's
City Council meeting." This usage seems to be in opposition to the
usual meaning of "irrelevant" so it's interesting to learn where it
came from.
Also, I just remembered this exchange from "Friends":
Joey: All right, Rach. The big question is, "does he like you?" All
right? Because if he doesn't like you, this is all a moo point.
Rachel: Huh. A moo point?
Joey: Yeah, it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's
moo.
Rachel: Have I been living with him for too long, or did that all just
make sense?
Adam Smith
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:07:20 -0700, Jim Carr
>
> <newsgro...@azwebpages.com> wrote:
> >> Yeah, I think you hit on the reason for Cardinal-apathy here. Most
> >> die-hard fans become fans either because it's passed down by their
> >> families, or through peer bonding with other kids in the
> >> neighborhood. When you've got a large transient or recently-arrived
> >> population like Arizona has, you don't get either of those.
>
> >are a transplanted team. They haven't even been around for a generation.
>
As someone else pointed out, the Colts have had success on the field
for awhile now, in addition to probably having a more stable
population. Also, I was living in Boston at the time Manning was
drafted, back when the Colts and Patriots were still division rivals.
I remember seeing a marked increase in the number of Colts jerseys
around town during the first few years of Manning's career. The
Cardinals have had one Super Bowl appearance recently, but they
haven't had the kind of steady success or star power that Manning has
brought to Indy.
But anyway Howard, you have better examples right in your backyard.
How have the Rockies and Avs' fan bases developed since they arrived
in town?
Adam Smith
> I don't know if the geographic distance between population centers has
> a lot to do with Card-apathy or not. I guess to answer that question
> you'd need to find a similar situation where an NFL team was recently
> moved into an area with a large transient population, but without a
> higher overall population density.
Sorry, that should have been "... WITH a higher overall population
density."
Cleatarrior
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:07:20 -0700, Jim Carr
> <newsg...@azwebpages.com> wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, I think you hit on the reason for Cardinal-apathy here. Most
>>> die-hard fans become fans either because it's passed down by their
>>> families, or through peer bonding with other kids in the
>>> neighborhood. When you've got a large transient or recently-arrived
>>> population like Arizona has, you don't get either of those.
>> That's it in a nutshell. Combine that with the fact that the Cardinals
>> are a transplanted team. They haven't even been around for a generation.
>
> Does Indianapolis have this problem?
>
I don't think Indy had the SoCal/outsider influx like Az. They had a
more homogenous population to start with.
Cleatarrior
Jim Carr
Cave Creek is pretty much off my radar since I don't ride my motorcycle
anymore. It's north of Phoenix and a little bit of a drive. But around
town I'm sure it would be easy to find a Steelers bar. The Steelers are
one of those teams that have a lot of fans all across the country.
Cleatarrior
> In article <__%Mm.17586$ET3....@newsfe17.iad>,
>>> least 100 miles, into areas with far less transiency of residence. A
>>> 120 mile circle around D.C. includes about 10 million population, as it
>>> includes metro areas like Baltimore, Annapolis, Fredericksburg,
>>> Charlottesville, Richmond, and Petersburg.
>> Good point. The only things around Phoenix are mountains and the desert.
>
> it, in addition it has had success on the field for quite a while. It
> may be Indian No Place, but
>
But no SoCal apathy demographic.
Trust me the same thing is eroding interest here.
It used to be "orange Sunday" and "Bronco Sunday", they'd roll up the
streets.
If your wife liked to shop , then during Bronco game was like looting a
ghost town.
Cleatarrior
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:23:23 -0700, Jim Carr
> <newsg...@azwebpages.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, it is. Just not for the Cardinals. There bars around here that cater
>> to specific teams. I happen go to a Redskins bar. Remember, I told you
>> that they would sell out Sun Devil Stadium when the Cowboys would come
>> to town.
>
> I know where there's a Packers bar at Rocky Flats. I suppose we have
> a decent variety of specific team bars in Colorado too.
>
That the place of the west side after you drop down on 93 into Boulder?
Cleatarrior
Lol, yes they are....
> "Simms, who played college football at the University of Texas at
> Austin, was heavily criticized for putting up big numbers against
> average or weaker teams, but consistently failing to deliver in big
> games and throwing interceptions, most notably in games against Big 12
> South rival Oklahoma, against whom Simms finished 0-3. In the 2001
> contest, he tossed four interceptions in a 14-3 loss. He also had a
> poor performance against Colorado in the 2001 Big 12 conference
> championship game where he fumbled and threw four interceptions, the
> last being returned for a touchdown� all before the close of the first
> half.[2] He was benched and Major Applewhite replaced him."
>
> You almost wonder if there's a Jack Elway thing going on here. Maybe
> Simms isn't all that much into football, but because of his physical
> aptitude for it and because he has a Hall-of-Fame dad he feels like
> it's something he has to do?
Very good insight, maybe...if so it holds for Griese too, who always
struck me as not real fiery in the huddle.
> "Orton attended Purdue University, where he played for the Purdue
> Boilermakers football team. At Purdue, Orton wore uniform No. 18 in
> honor of former Nebraska Cornhuskers' quarterback Brook Berringer.
> Orton tied former Purdue quarterback Drew Brees' record for the number
> of passing yards in a game (522 vs. Indiana Hoosiers) and is one of
> only three Purdue quarterbacks to start at least three consecutive
> bowl games (Brees and Mark Herrmann being the other two). Orton
> started in the 2001 Sun Bowl, the 2002 Sun Bowl, the 2003 Capital One
> Bowl, and the 2004 Sun Bowl. During his time at Purdue, Orton joined
> the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity. In 2004, Orton was the preseason third-
> team "All-American" quarterback, behind USC's Matt Leinart and
> Oklahoma's Jason White. Orton had an impressive start to the season,
> having led Purdue to a 5-0 start with 18 touchdowns and no
> interceptions. Orton was touted as the front runner for the Heisman
> Trophy, until he received multiple injuries in consecutive games
> against the Michigan Wolverines and Northwestern Wildcats that forced
> him out of his starting position for a month."
>
> This sounds ominously similar to his pro career. Orton sounds to me
> like a guy who, while not extremely well-gifted physically, loves the
> game and has a great competitive fire, and manages to have at least
> modest success through sheer hard work. But every time he gets
> something good going, whether at Purdue or with the Bears or now with
> the Broncos, he gets injured.
So we're saying maybe they are who we thought they were? ;-)
Or that stats can't hide personality traits?
Maybe both.
Cleatarrior
When I've visited it's been Raiders - counting the banners.
SoCal goes a little nutso with all the pickup bed flags and decals.
RichL
> One other thing: I never made it up to Phoenix myself when I lived in
> Tucson, but I've heard it described as being like LA in the sense of
> having a lot of pretty-looking but fairly vapid people. I don't know
> how deep the similarities run or how much that has to do with Card-
> apathy, but there you are. (Jim could probably comment on this better
> than I could.)
Carr lives there.
Case closed ;-)
Howard Brazee
<adamc...@fastmail.us> wrote:
>> Does Indianapolis have this problem?
>
>As someone else pointed out, the Colts have had success on the field
>for awhile now, in addition to probably having a more stable
>population. Also, I was living in Boston at the time Manning was
>drafted, back when the Colts and Patriots were still division rivals.
>I remember seeing a marked increase in the number of Colts jerseys
>around town during the first few years of Manning's career. The
>Cardinals have had one Super Bowl appearance recently, but they
>haven't had the kind of steady success or star power that Manning has
>brought to Indy.
Not a large difference in Superbowl appearances. Indianapolis has a
much larger population.
>But anyway Howard, you have better examples right in your backyard.
>How have the Rockies and Avs' fan bases developed since they arrived
>in town?
Rockies sold lots of tickets, which very slowly dropped when they
didn't win, and is coming back up. The Avalanche had a long
sell-out streak until the strike, cap, and they missed the playoffs.
They're exciting to watch right now.
Howard Brazee
wrote:
>> I know where there's a Packers bar at Rocky Flats. I suppose we have
>> a decent variety of specific team bars in Colorado too.
>>
>
>That the place of the west side after you drop down on 93 into Boulder?
Yep.
Jim Carr
Vapid? Yes. Pretty-looking? Meh.
Jim Carr
> Not a large difference in Superbowl appearances. Indianapolis has a
> much larger population.
Not sure I'm following you. Phoenix (#5) is about twice the population
of Indianapolis (#14).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population
If you zoom out to the county level, the county where Phoenix is located
is #4 in the country and has about 4 to 5 times the population of the
county where Indy is. I don't know the metro numbers, but if unless they
count 7 or 8 counties in Indiana, no way do they have a bigger population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_populous_counties_in_the_United_States
Adam Smith
> So we're saying maybe they are who we thought they were? ;-)
"And we let 'em off the hook!"
(Storms out of the room.)
Howard Brazee
You're right - I shouldn't have said Indianapolis, I should have said
"The Colt's region".
Adam Smith
> Howard Brazee wrote:
> > Not a large difference in Superbowl appearances. Indianapolis has a
> > much larger population.
>
> Not sure I'm following you. Phoenix (#5) is about twice the population
>
> If you zoom out to the county level, the county where Phoenix is located
> is #4 in the country and has about 4 to 5 times the population of the
> county where Indy is. I don't know the metro numbers, but if unless they
> count 7 or 8 counties in Indiana, no way do they have a bigger population.
>
Google has data on county populations for the entire US in a neat
little interactive graph. (I just discovered this.) Here's the
populations of Marion County, Indiana (which countains Indianapolis)
and the eight counties that border it (I figure considering the small
size of counties in Indiana you should cover those to be safe) on the
same plot as Maricopa County,Arizona, which contains Phoenix:
It looks like the bulk of the Indianapolis-area population is
concentrated in Marion county. Even if you include the surrounding
counties, the total population is still probably less than a third of
Maricopa County. You can also see the dramatic growth in Phoenix's
population over the last 30 years while the Indianapolis area has
remained relatively flat.
Cleatarrior
lol
Fred Waiss, Sr.
"Adam Smith" <adamc...@fastmail.us> wrote in message
news:20af3edd-8653-4da1...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
The problems of spelling and word usage and pronunciation are all an integral
part of the English lnaguage. For example, most if not all of those words we
have with a silent "e" (ate, rate, are, hale, etc.) used to have the "e"
pronounced. Words like "through" and "laugh"--those now-silent consonants were
pronounced. The language evolves. Plus, words like "moot" and "mute" are
either read but not heard, or vice versa, and people don't understand that there
are two different words. My own personal gripe is that "a lot" meaning many has
become one word in the writing of so many, especially in high school. No such
word as "alot." And the word meaning "to assign" has 2 "t"s.
Nancy Perry
Adam Smith <adamc...@fastmail.us> wrote:
>
>"Simms, who played college football at the University of Texas at
>Austin, was heavily criticized for putting up big numbers against
>average or weaker teams, but consistently failing to deliver in big
>games and throwing interceptions, most notably in games against Big 12
>South rival Oklahoma, against whom Simms finished 0-3. In the 2001
>contest, he tossed four interceptions in a 14-3 loss. He also had a
>poor performance against Colorado in the 2001 Big 12 conference
>championship game where he fumbled and threw four interceptions, the
>last being returned for a touchdown� all before the close of the first
>half.[2] He was benched and Major Applewhite replaced him."
I happened to live in Austin during this time and Simms totally
drove us crazy. Major Applewhite clearly was someone with more
drive, yet Major got benched because they'd brought on Simms.
They chose Simms "name" over Major's killer instinct. Major
always seemed to pull out games where you thought there was no
way they'd win.. and they did. I still hold a huge grudge
against Mack Brown to this day, for this.
Simms was really horrible. Sure, he had great mechanics, but
he had no mental game at all. (see above: he throws big numbers
against bad teams but chokes against good teams). If any defender
gets close enough to say "BOO" Simms would totally lose it.
>You almost wonder if there's a Jack Elway thing going on here. Maybe
>Simms isn't all that much into football, but because of his physical
>aptitude for it and because he has a Hall-of-Fame dad he feels like
>it's something he has to do?
I think it's more mental, not like he feels he has to live up to
something, but he just doesn't have what it takes (even though
he may think he wants it, he doesn't have the head).
I was lucky to be on an airplane during last week's second
half and already, just watching the first series today is making
me crazy. I thought I'd never have to watch this guy again.
Nancy "is it too early to ask about Brandstater ;-)"
Howard Brazee
wrote:
>I happened to live in Austin during this time and Simms totally
>drove us crazy. Major Applewhite clearly was someone with more
>drive, yet Major got benched because they'd brought on Simms.
>They chose Simms "name" over Major's killer instinct. Major
>always seemed to pull out games where you thought there was no
>way they'd win.. and they did. I still hold a huge grudge
>against Mack Brown to this day, for this.
Hire Major Applewhite to coach the CU Buffs.
Howard Brazee
<wa...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> My own personal gripe is that "a lot" meaning many has
>become one word in the writing of so many, especially in high school. No such
>word as "alot."
It took me a long time to learn a "alot". But nowadays, with spell
checkers, it isn't the ignorant who misspell it, it's the lazy.
A "word" which I've never come across except on Fidonet isn't about
the "Herman's Hermits" singer - but that's how I pronounce "noone".
Don't people have spell checkers? If a post is worth writing, isn't
it worth checking?
Nancy Perry
Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:23 +0000 (UTC), sp...@panix.com (Nancy Perry)
>wrote:
>
>>I happened to live in Austin during this time and Simms totally
>>drove us crazy. Major Applewhite clearly was someone with more
>>drive, yet Major got benched because they'd brought on Simms.
>>They chose Simms "name" over Major's killer instinct. Major
>>always seemed to pull out games where you thought there was no
>>way they'd win.. and they did. I still hold a huge grudge
>>against Mack Brown to this day, for this.
>
>Hire Major Applewhite to coach the CU Buffs.
Heh, that's not too farfetched; the last I heard, Major was
the quarterbacks coach for some college team (a southern
or eastern team, I forget who it was). It was nice to learn
he was still in football, even though Mack Brown torpedoed
his playing career.
Nancy
Cleatarrior
Head and competitive fire - 100%.
Be interesting to see what kind of a pro McCoy becomes.
Cleatarrior
> In article <b0f116b0-5010-4b9f...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> Adam Smith <adamc...@fastmail.us> wrote:
>> "Simms, who played college football at the University of Texas at
>> Austin, was heavily criticized for putting up big numbers against
>> average or weaker teams, but consistently failing to deliver in big
>> games and throwing interceptions, most notably in games against Big 12
>> South rival Oklahoma, against whom Simms finished 0-3. In the 2001
>> contest, he tossed four interceptions in a 14-3 loss. He also had a
>> poor performance against Colorado in the 2001 Big 12 conference
>> championship game where he fumbled and threw four interceptions, the
>> half.[2] He was benched and Major Applewhite replaced him."
>
> I happened to live in Austin during this time and Simms totally
> drove us crazy. Major Applewhite clearly was someone with more
> drive, yet Major got benched because they'd brought on Simms.
> They chose Simms "name" over Major's killer instinct. Major
> always seemed to pull out games where you thought there was no
> way they'd win.. and they did. I still hold a huge grudge
> against Mack Brown to this day, for this.
>
> Simms was really horrible. Sure, he had great mechanics, but
> he had no mental game at all. (see above: he throws big numbers
> against bad teams but chokes against good teams). If any defender
> gets close enough to say "BOO" Simms would totally lose it.
I'm starting to see that too...
>> You almost wonder if there's a Jack Elway thing going on here. Maybe
>> Simms isn't all that much into football, but because of his physical
>> aptitude for it and because he has a Hall-of-Fame dad he feels like
>> it's something he has to do?
>
> I think it's more mental, not like he feels he has to live up to
> something, but he just doesn't have what it takes (even though
> he may think he wants it, he doesn't have the head).
>
> I was lucky to be on an airplane during last week's second
> half and already, just watching the first series today is making
> me crazy. I thought I'd never have to watch this guy again.
>
> Nancy "is it too early to ask about Brandstater ;-)"
One more ankle and you can ask away!
Otherwise McD will stay with Kyle.
Cleatarrior
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:47:23 +0000 (UTC), sp...@panix.com (Nancy Perry)
> wrote:
>
>> I happened to live in Austin during this time and Simms totally
>> drove us crazy. Major Applewhite clearly was someone with more
>> drive, yet Major got benched because they'd brought on Simms.
>> They chose Simms "name" over Major's killer instinct. Major
>> always seemed to pull out games where you thought there was no
>> way they'd win.. and they did. I still hold a huge grudge
>> against Mack Brown to this day, for this.
>
> Hire Major Applewhite to coach the CU Buffs.
>
Yes.
Adam Smith
> And the word meaning "to assign" has 2 "t"s.
Two "L"s actually.
(I know, nitpicking.)
Nancy Perry
Cleatarrior <nos...@xx.block> wrote:
>>
>C'mon Nancy, Major wasn't NFL caliber in size or arm...
Ok, I was being a little dramatic... but he did get screwed
out of playing his senior year. ;-) But he sure was a lot
of fun to watch.
Nancy (my favorite college team now is "whoever is playing Texas this week")
Cleatarrior
> In article <hef20i$pk8$6...@news.datemas.de>,
> Cleatarrior <nos...@xx.block> wrote:
>> C'mon Nancy, Major wasn't NFL caliber in size or arm...
>
> Ok, I was being a little dramatic... but he did get screwed
> out of playing his senior year. ;-) But he sure was a lot
> of fun to watch.
Yup, he got jobbed for sure and he was a hoot to watch play - a class act.
> Nancy (my favorite college team now is "whoever is playing Texas this week")
I'm still not sold on your running game...
Fred Waiss, Sr.
Two "L"s actually.
(I know, nitpicking.)
Of course. Don't know what I was thinking.
Or, as my brother would write it: dont no wat eye wuz thinking
Nunya Bidnits
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:48:45 -0800, "RickyBobby" <nasc...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It is a moot point. Why do so many people call it a mute point?
In the case of the troll RickyBobby, a mute point is highly desireable.