Royal poppers?
Cleatarrior
end zone awaiting the kickoff from the Ravens.
He had something in his hand which he popped open, took a long sniff of,
and tossed to the ground.
Ammonia, amyl nitrate?
Legal?
This is something I haven't seen before.
Whatever the case it mattered naught as the kick was a touchback and not
returned.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> Did anyone notice at 14:07 of quarter 4 the shot of Eddie Royal in the
> end zone awaiting the kickoff from the Ravens.
>
> He had something in his hand which he popped open, took a long sniff of,
> and tossed to the ground.
>
> Ammonia, amyl nitrate?
>
> Legal?
>
If it's those "smelling salts" (or even ammonia), they aren't
illegal. Trust me, if he did something wrong, we'd have heard about
it by now. I did not notice that, as I was only listening at that
point <grin>.
> This is something I haven't seen before.
Not on the field, but I've seen the trainers using them on all the
sidelines, whenever anyone gets sluggish.
Cleatarrior
> On Nov 2, 11:07 am, Cleatarrior <nos...@xx.block> wrote:
>> Did anyone notice at 14:07 of quarter 4 the shot of Eddie Royal in the
>> end zone awaiting the kickoff from the Ravens.
>>
>> He had something in his hand which he popped open, took a long sniff of,
>> and tossed to the ground.
>>
>> Ammonia, amyl nitrate?
>>
>> Legal?
>>
>
> If it's those "smelling salts" (or even ammonia), they aren't
> illegal. Trust me, if he did something wrong, we'd have heard about
> it by now. I did not notice that, as I was only listening at that
> point <grin>.
Lol, you have good eyes. I ran the DVR back a couple of times to see it.
>> This is something I haven't seen before.
>
> Not on the field, but I've seen the trainers using them on all the
> sidelines, whenever anyone gets sluggish.
Exactly.
It interested me enough given TO's "sharpie" incident that I went to the
most recent .pdf of the NFL rulebook I could find (2006) to see if
there's anything mentioned in the equipment section.
And there's not.
Not sure what the '09 book has in it and the online rules at nfl.com
don't mention it either.
Sorry Eddie, not trying to give you the "Royal treatment" here..'
If it makes you go faster, go for it.
Least it wasn't hot dog...
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> Smokie Darling (Annie) wrote:
> > On Nov 2, 11:07 am, Cleatarrior <nos...@xx.block> wrote:
> >> Did anyone notice at 14:07 of quarter 4 the shot of Eddie Royal in the
> >> end zone awaiting the kickoff from the Ravens.
>
> >> He had something in his hand which he popped open, took a long sniff of,
> >> and tossed to the ground.
>
> >> Ammonia, amyl nitrate?
>
> >> Legal?
>
> > If it's those "smelling salts" (or even ammonia), they aren't
> > illegal. Trust me, if he did something wrong, we'd have heard about
> > it by now. I did not notice that, as I was only listening at that
> > point <grin>.
>
> Lol, you have good eyes. I ran the DVR back a couple of times to see it.
>
> >> This is something I haven't seen before.
>
> > Not on the field, but I've seen the trainers using them on all the
> > sidelines, whenever anyone gets sluggish.
>
> Exactly.
>
> It interested me enough given TO's "sharpie" incident that I went to the
> most recent .pdf of the NFL rulebook I could find (2006) to see if
> there's anything mentioned in the equipment section.
>
> And there's not.
>
> Not sure what the '09 book has in it and the online rules at nfl.com
> don't mention it either.
So far as I know, so long as it doesn't come on to the field of play,
and it isn't a controlled/banned substance, there wouldn't be a rule
against it. I know people who have them in their desks, for those
"logy" afternoons, when they just want to sleep. I never tried one,
but they always said it made them super alert for 15 to 20 minutes
(long enough to get them over the brief "wannanaps").
>
> Sorry Eddie, not trying to give you the "Royal treatment" here..'
>
> If it makes you go faster, go for it.
>
> Least it wasn't hot dog...
or a box of popcorn
Jon Jon
Probably smelling salt/ammonia .. I'd always sniff one before a high
school wrestling match <Moffat County Bulldogs> .. it merely clears the
nose/sinus/breathing passages.
Unique doing one directly before accepting a kickoff - it's common on
the sideline.
Nunya Bidnits
What exactly is in this stuff? I've seen these little plastic and glass
capsules encased in a netted fabric that medical people use to try to revive
people, is that what we're talking about?
MartyB
Nunya Bidnits
I don't get it. So now it's ok to snort a popper in the end zone, but not to
eat a hot dog on the sidelines?
MartyB
Cleatarrior
Cleatarrior
Fascinating.
>> Sorry Eddie, not trying to give you the "Royal treatment" here..'
>>
>> If it makes you go faster, go for it.
>>
>> Least it wasn't hot dog...
>
> or a box of popcorn
If it's legal, it's legal.
Now I'm going to be watching extra close to see if it's happening on
every return.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
Mostly it's ammonia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelling_salts
The other form "Poppers" are illegal in the US:
Smokie Darling (Annie)
Ah, but it isn't a Popper, those are illegal. That's amyl nitrate
(usually), and it can have a bad effect, rather than an awakening one.
Nunya Bidnits
OK, I'll restate.
So now it's ok to inhale a legal stimulant in the end zone, but not to eat a
legal hot dog on the sidelines?
I heard a comment today on one of the sports shows that these athletes take
a lot of anti-inflammatories, and they are hard on the stomach. I will
attest to that from personal experience and if you take those things often
you had better take them with food or they will screw up your stomach big
time.
In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
MartyB
Cleatarrior
I tend to agree, but from the NFLPA website - banned substances list:
http://www.nflplayers.com/user/template.aspx?fmid=181&lmid=334&pid=0&type=n
CERTAIN STIMULANTS
Generic Name Brand Names (Examples)
Amphetamine Greenies, Speed
Ephedrine Ma Huang, Chi Powder
Fenfluramine Phen-Fen, Redux
Methamphetamine ---
Methylephedrine
Methylphenidate Ritalin, Daytrana, Metadate, Methylin
Modafinil ---
Norfenfluramine ---
Pseudoephedrine * Sudafed, Actifed
Phentermine Fastin, Adipex, Ionamin
Synephrine Bitter Orange, Citrus Aurantium
* Except as properly prescribed by Club medical personnel.
You may remember when Romo was playing here there was a stink about
Phentermine.
mcgozer
"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:hcq36s$3u4$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
> stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
>
> MartyB
I agree with this.
Howard Brazee
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>I don't get it. So now it's ok to snort a popper in the end zone, but not to
>eat a hot dog on the sidelines?
It's silly. Apparently eating a hot dog is disrespecting the
opponents, while eating a granola bar is getting needed nourishment.
Taking a popper isn't disrespecting them.
Dumb.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
Howard Brazee
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
>stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
Does that include sugar or chocolate? Is insulin considered a
stimulant?
Smokie Darling (Annie)
september.invalid> wrote:
> Smokie Darling (Annie) said:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 11:01 am, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
> > september.invalid> wrote:
> >> Jon Jon said:
>
> >>> Probably smelling salt/ammonia .. I'd always sniff one before a high
> >>> school wrestling match <Moffat County Bulldogs> .. it merely clears
> >>> the nose/sinus/breathing passages.
>
> >>> Unique doing one directly before accepting a kickoff - it's common
> >>> on the sideline.
>
> >> I don't get it. So now it's ok to snort a popper in the end zone,
> >> but not to eat a hot dog on the sidelines?
>
> >> MartyB
>
> > Ah, but it isn't a Popper, those are illegal. That's amyl nitrate
> > (usually), and it can have a bad effect, rather than an awakening one.
>
> OK, I'll restate.
Oh I know, I was being a smart ass <grin>.
>
> So now it's ok to inhale a legal stimulant in the end zone, but not to eat a
> legal hot dog on the sidelines?
Not sure how the NFL could have missed it, so I presume it is. Um...
what is it with Hot dogs? I must have missed something.
>
> I heard a comment today on one of the sports shows that these athletes take
> a lot of anti-inflammatories, and they are hard on the stomach. I will
> attest to that from personal experience and if you take those things often
> you had better take them with food or they will screw up your stomach big
> time.
Unless your stomach is cast iron, like mine <grin>. 2400mg of Motrin,
every day, since June of 1996. Tummy is still fine <touch wood>. I
never take it with food or milk, it doesn't work for me when I do.
>
> In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
> stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
Is something that clears your sinuses, without putting a possible
sedating factor into your blood stream a "stimulant"? I am meaning
"technically", not the effect that 'salts' have on most people who
don't use them all the time.
Adam Smith
september.invalid> wrote:
> In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
> stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
I'm not sure whether you mean the entire field area, or just between
the sidelines, but what I find objectionable is that Royal tossed his
used popper (or whatever) on the ground when he was done. Surely
there's a penalty for dropping your litter on the field, right?
Adam Smith
wrote:
> Not sure how the NFL could have missed it, so I presume it is. Um...
> what is it with Hot dogs? I must have missed something.
Mark Sanchez apparently got hungry during the Jets-Raiders game the
weekend before last and was seen on TV eating a hot dog on the
sidelines. Rex Ryan (Jets coach) said he was disrespecting the game.
Sanchez apologized and donated like 500 hot dogs and hamburgers to a
local soup kitchen. The National Hot Dog Council (or something like
that) put out a pretty funny press release praising Sanchez for
"turning to the iron-man of stadium food" and for getting mustard but
not ketchup.
> > In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
> > stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
>
> Is something that clears your sinuses, without putting a possible
> sedating factor into your blood stream a "stimulant"? I am meaning
> "technically", not the effect that 'salts' have on most people who
> don't use them all the time.
That's the tricky thing about adding extra restrictions. A lot of
things might technically be stimulants but really be used for other
legitimate purposes. It's hard to come up with good rules for what
should be allowed and what shouldn't. From the NFL's perspective,
it's a lot easier to just say "if it's fine with the law, it's fine
with us."
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> On Nov 4, 10:23 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Not sure how the NFL could have missed it, so I presume it is. Um...
> > what is it with Hot dogs? I must have missed something.
>
> Mark Sanchez apparently got hungry during the Jets-Raiders game the
> weekend before last and was seen on TV eating a hot dog on the
> sidelines. Rex Ryan (Jets coach) said he was disrespecting the game.
> Sanchez apologized and donated like 500 hot dogs and hamburgers to a
> local soup kitchen. The National Hot Dog Council (or something like
> that) put out a pretty funny press release praising Sanchez for
> "turning to the iron-man of stadium food" and for getting mustard but
> not ketchup.
Okay, I guess I missed that. Not quite sure how it's disrespecting
the game, but then I never played organized football. I suppose if he
was standing there, just watching the Raiders while he chowed...
Remember the pizza eater at the one Basketball game? Kept trying to
hide behind a towel? Kinda silly, actually, but then so is penalizing
TO for dumping popcorn on his face after a touchdown <shrug>.
> Is something that clears your sinuses, without putting a possible
> > sedating factor into your blood stream a "stimulant"? I am meaning
> > "technically", not the effect that 'salts' have on most people who
> > don't use them all the time.
>
> That's the tricky thing about adding extra restrictions. A lot of
> things might technically be stimulants but really be used for other
> legitimate purposes. It's hard to come up with good rules for what
> should be allowed and what shouldn't. From the NFL's perspective,
> it's a lot easier to just say "if it's fine with the law, it's fine
> with us."
Remember androstyndione (sp)? That was legal, for the longest time,
now it's not. Then again, Sudafed is perfectly legal, as are several
of the things on the list that Cleat shared. Unless taken in massive
doses (which can kill a healthy person). Almost anything can probably
be taken to give someone an "edge", in their mind if nowhere else.
KG
wrote:
IIRC, the thing that motrin gets is your kidneys. See: Kenny Easley.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
I know people who had stomach problems, but didn't know about Easley.
I get blood work every month to check liver and kidney panels. I've
been fine <touch wood>, so far.
Howard Brazee
<Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> IIRC, the thing that motrin gets is your kidneys. See: Kenny Easley.
>
>I know people who had stomach problems, but didn't know about Easley.
>I get blood work every month to check liver and kidney panels. I've
>been fine <touch wood>, so far.
Every drug does bad things. But lots do good things as well. It's
too bad that athletes have abused useful drugs such as steroids.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:35:14 -0800 (PST), "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
>
> >> IIRC, the thing that motrin gets is your kidneys. See: Kenny Easley.
>
> >I know people who had stomach problems, but didn't know about Easley.
> >I get blood work every month to check liver and kidney panels. I've
> >been fine <touch wood>, so far.
>
> Every drug does bad things. But lots do good things as well. It's
> too bad that athletes have abused useful drugs such as steroids.
Yeah, but with a doctor, *you* could get steroids for whatever
condition. Just like any other drug that can be prescribed. Remember
the pitcher (Andy Pettit?) who tested positive, but he had been using
a steroid on the orders of his doctor (not that it mattered, even then
it wasn't allowable for him in the major leagues) to help him recover
from surgery.
Nunya Bidnits
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:18:27 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
> <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
>> stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
>
> Does that include sugar or chocolate? Is insulin considered a
> stimulant?
Those are foods. Different foods can have different effects on a person, but
that does not make them drugs. I was referring to drugs when I said
stimulant. As such, I suppose there is something you could have used as an
example anyway, which is caffeine, technically a drug.
Insulin is not in the class of stimulants. IIRC it is a hormone.
Let me clarify what I said. I don't think players should be allowed to use
any stimulating substance, especially drugs, legal or not, on the field of
play for the purpose of enhancing their performance with that drug.
MartyB in KC
MartyB in KC
Nunya Bidnits
Try doing that with Naproxen and you can end up with permanent acid reflux
disease.
.
>
>>
>> In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
>> stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
>
> Is something that clears your sinuses, without putting a possible
> sedating factor into your blood stream a "stimulant"? I am meaning
> "technically", not the effect that 'salts' have on most people who
> don't use them all the time.
As I understand smelling salts the purpose is more than to just clear the
sinuses. They use them on people who are passed out to revive them, so I
have to think it's more than just a quick decongestant. I don't know offhand
exactly what the action of the smelling salts is but my understanding is
that it heightens awareness and sensitivity by stimulating blood flow in
some way. I would consider that to be using a drug to enhance performance.
If it's not, why would they bother with it?
MartyB
Nunya Bidnits
> That's the tricky thing about adding extra restrictions. A lot of
> things might technically be stimulants but really be used for other
> legitimate purposes. It's hard to come up with good rules for what
> should be allowed and what shouldn't. From the NFL's perspective,
> it's a lot easier to just say "if it's fine with the law, it's fine
> with us."
'
But if you look at the list of banned stimulants posted earlier in the
thread, some of those are not prescription drugs, and many of them are
legal.
MartyB
Nunya Bidnits
I didn't realize andro was illegal now.
As far as Sudafed, it's not much of a stimulant. The big worry about that
stuff is that it is used to make methamphetamine, so most states have
restricted its sale to behind the counter distribution, but it's still a
legal substance.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
I was referring to NFL policy (and MLB).
> As far as Sudafed, it's not much of a stimulant. The big worry about that
> stuff is that it is used to make methamphetamine, so most states have
> restricted its sale to behind the counter distribution, but it's still a
> legal substance.
But it's one of the substances (again in the NFL and MLB) that a
player may not take, without a doctor (or trainer) monitoring usage.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
september.invalid> wrote:
> Smokie Darling (Annie) said:
> >> I heard a comment today on one of the sports shows that these
> >> athletes take a lot of anti-inflammatories, and they are hard on the
> >> stomach. I will attest to that from personal experience and if you
> >> take those things often you had better take them with food or they
> >> will screw up your stomach big time.
>
> > Unless your stomach is cast iron, like mine <grin>. 2400mg of Motrin,
> > every day, since June of 1996. Tummy is still fine <touch wood>. I
> > never take it with food or milk, it doesn't work for me when I do.
>
> Try doing that with Naproxen and you can end up with permanent acid reflux
> disease.
I was on Naproxen for a while, 3 times a day, but don't remember the
dosage. Did not do much for the RA, so went back on Motrin <smile>.
> >> In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
> >> stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
>
> > Is something that clears your sinuses, without putting a possible
> > sedating factor into your blood stream a "stimulant"? I am meaning
> > "technically", not the effect that 'salts' have on most people who
> > don't use them all the time.
>
> As I understand smelling salts the purpose is more than to just clear the
> sinuses. They use them on people who are passed out to revive them, so I
> have to think it's more than just a quick decongestant. I don't know offhand
> exactly what the action of the smelling salts is but my understanding is
> that it heightens awareness and sensitivity by stimulating blood flow in
> some way.
I think, and this is just an opinion, but I believe that it's like any
other drug. If you use it regularly (as I believe NFLers do), then it
loses its efficacy, and does not affect you the way it did when you
first started.
I would consider that to be using a drug to enhance performance.
> If it's not, why would they bother with it?
I have noticed that most of the players have stopped wearing the
Breathe Right strips, so maybe they use that the way those strips used
to be used. Maybe he had sinus issues, and couldn't breathe through
his nose, I don't know, I'm just speculating.
Cleatarrior
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:18:27 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
> <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
>> stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
>
> Does that include sugar or chocolate? Is insulin considered a
> stimulant?
>
What is the precedent for consuming anything in the end zone awaiting a
kickoff?
Cleatarrior
Good point.
No trash cans in the end zone :-)
Cleatarrior
> On Nov 4, 10:27 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
> september.invalid> wrote:
>> Smokie Darling (Annie) said:
>
>>>> I heard a comment today on one of the sports shows that these
>>>> athletes take a lot of anti-inflammatories, and they are hard on the
>>>> stomach. I will attest to that from personal experience and if you
>>>> take those things often you had better take them with food or they
>>>> will screw up your stomach big time.
>>> Unless your stomach is cast iron, like mine <grin>. 2400mg of Motrin,
>>> every day, since June of 1996. Tummy is still fine <touch wood>. I
>>> never take it with food or milk, it doesn't work for me when I do.
>> Try doing that with Naproxen and you can end up with permanent acid reflux
>> disease.
>
> I was on Naproxen for a while, 3 times a day, but don't remember the
> dosage. Did not do much for the RA, so went back on Motrin <smile>.
What's RA?
>>>> In any case I don't think it should be acceptable to use any kind of
>>>> stimulant on the field of play, legal or not.
>>> Is something that clears your sinuses, without putting a possible
>>> sedating factor into your blood stream a "stimulant"? I am meaning
>>> "technically", not the effect that 'salts' have on most people who
>>> don't use them all the time.
>> As I understand smelling salts the purpose is more than to just clear the
>> sinuses. They use them on people who are passed out to revive them, so I
>> have to think it's more than just a quick decongestant. I don't know offhand
>> exactly what the action of the smelling salts is but my understanding is
>> that it heightens awareness and sensitivity by stimulating blood flow in
>> some way.
>
> I think, and this is just an opinion, but I believe that it's like any
> other drug. If you use it regularly (as I believe NFLers do), then it
> loses its efficacy, and does not affect you the way it did when you
> first started.
>
> I would consider that to be using a drug to enhance performance.
>> If it's not, why would they bother with it?
>
> I have noticed that most of the players have stopped wearing the
> Breathe Right strips, so maybe they use that the way those strips used
> to be used. Maybe he had sinus issues, and couldn't breathe through
> his nose, I don't know, I'm just speculating.
>
Great observation, they were a late 90s fad for sure.
Lets hope they don't take up the rolled up wrist band bicep-fad the
college guys are still on.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> Smokie Darling (Annie) wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 10:27 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
> > september.invalid> wrote:
> >> Smokie Darling (Annie) said:
>
> >>>> I heard a comment today on one of the sports shows that these
> >>>> athletes take a lot of anti-inflammatories, and they are hard on the
> >>>> stomach. I will attest to that from personal experience and if you
> >>>> take those things often you had better take them with food or they
> >>>> will screw up your stomach big time.
> >>> Unless your stomach is cast iron, like mine <grin>. 2400mg of Motrin,
> >>> every day, since June of 1996. Tummy is still fine <touch wood>. I
> >>> never take it with food or milk, it doesn't work for me when I do.
> >> Try doing that with Naproxen and you can end up with permanent acid reflux
> >> disease.
>
> > I was on Naproxen for a while, 3 times a day, but don't remember the
> > dosage. Did not do much for the RA, so went back on Motrin <smile>.
>
> What's RA?
Rheumatoid Arthritis
> > I have noticed that most of the players have stopped wearing the
> > Breathe Right strips, so maybe they use that the way those strips used
> > to be used. Maybe he had sinus issues, and couldn't breathe through
> > his nose, I don't know, I'm just speculating.
>
> Great observation, they were a late 90s fad for sure.
Yeah, something a woman would be more likely to notice, huh <big
grin>? Occasionally, I use them at night. They really do work for
the stuffy "bed nose".
> Lets hope they don't take up the rolled up wrist band bicep-fad the
> college guys are still on.
Bleh... Not one I'm particularly fond of. I see it in Basketball (at
least I think we are talking about the same thing), and always think
they want people to think they have tendonitis or something (lol).
Smokie Darling (Annie)
Apparently not, but some places have cannons <grin>
Nunya Bidnits
In KC the stadiums are municipal property, so I can see a cop running out on
the field and handing him a ticket for littering. We'll take anything we can
to get a win right now.
;-)
MartyB in KC
Cleatarrior
That darned Scum Dego one is annoying!
Cleatarrior
> On Nov 6, 12:15 pm, Cleatarrior <nos...@xx.block> wrote:
>> Smokie Darling (Annie) wrote:
>>> On Nov 4, 10:27 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
>>> september.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Smokie Darling (Annie) said:
>>>>>> I heard a comment today on one of the sports shows that these
>>>>>> athletes take a lot of anti-inflammatories, and they are hard on the
>>>>>> stomach. I will attest to that from personal experience and if you
>>>>>> take those things often you had better take them with food or they
>>>>>> will screw up your stomach big time.
>>>>> Unless your stomach is cast iron, like mine <grin>. 2400mg of Motrin,
>>>>> every day, since June of 1996. Tummy is still fine <touch wood>. I
>>>>> never take it with food or milk, it doesn't work for me when I do.
>>>> Try doing that with Naproxen and you can end up with permanent acid reflux
>>>> disease.
>>> I was on Naproxen for a while, 3 times a day, but don't remember the
>>> dosage. Did not do much for the RA, so went back on Motrin <smile>.
>> What's RA?
>
> Rheumatoid Arthritis
Sorry to hear that, very nasty stuff.
>>> I have noticed that most of the players have stopped wearing the
>>> Breathe Right strips, so maybe they use that the way those strips used
>>> to be used. Maybe he had sinus issues, and couldn't breathe through
>>> his nose, I don't know, I'm just speculating.
>> Great observation, they were a late 90s fad for sure.
>
> Yeah, something a woman would be more likely to notice, huh <big
> grin>? Occasionally, I use them at night. They really do work for
> the stuffy "bed nose".
I remember when we got Neil Smith he had special Bronco bandaids.
>> Lets hope they don't take up the rolled up wrist band bicep-fad the
>> college guys are still on.
>
> Bleh... Not one I'm particularly fond of. I see it in Basketball (at
> least I think we are talking about the same thing), and always think
> they want people to think they have tendonitis or something (lol).
Lol, that's the look!