Dave Pelland
Dave Pelland
Now this has gone too far. That was a typing mistake and you have just
posted a comment about me being an anti-semite to this newsgroup. I guess
y'all were right. I will need an attorney. Like I said previously, slander
is hard to prove but Mr. Mandel made it easy by posting this to a newsgroup.
He will be hearing from my attorney.
Barry S. Mandel wrote in message <34d622c0...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
>OK, first of all, I apologize for posting something unrelated to
>basketball here, but I feel that the following is important enough
>to share with the other readers of this NG.
>
>As you know, an individual named Dave Pelland
>(pell...@mindspring.com) has recently seen fit to post a series of
>off-topic messages regarding his thoughts on the legal profession and
>myself, including a series of rather amusing but wholly off-topic
>lawyer jokes. I purposely discontinued my thread with him because
>I felt that a private flame war should be conducted privately, not
>publicly. Regrettably, this individual has chosen to continue our
>correspondence by E-Mail, and while I am not in the habit of
>reproducing private communications for public consumption, I decided
>to break with that policy so that Knicks NG members will have an idea
>just what kind of individual Mr. Pelland really is.
>
>The following is an excerpt from his latest E-Mail to me:
>
>>You are really impressed by yourself and your little fag friends in the
>>Knicks newsgroup. Did you declare yourself the winner of our verbal
>>sparring or did your little fag friends. You stay in Jew Gardens and I'll
>>gladly stay in Hotlanta where I own a 5000 sq. ft. home that you could
only
>>dream of owning in Kew Gardens. New York is the cespool of the universe.
>>You deserve each other.
>
>Apparently the true source of Mr. Pelland's dislike for lawyers is his
>own anti-Semitism, now laid bare for the entire NG to see. Also
>exposed is the apparent hatred for New York City of someone who
>professes to be a Knick fan -- does anyone else see a contradiction?
>Does anyone now believe that Mr. Pelland is seriously interested in a
>discussion of basketball? Since there is also a reference to my
>"little fag friends in the Knicks newsgroup," it's quite apparent that
>Mr. Pelland doesn't care much for most of the other regulars here.
>
>While Mr. Pelland is entitled to voice his disagreement, and even
>dislike for me personally, I don't believe the Internet or this NG
>should be used to drive one person's racist agenda at the expense
>of the subject at hand -- the New York Knicks. I've been critical of
>Aazaz for some of his views on race, but I acknowledge that he at
>least keeps his posts on topic. The same cannot be said for Mr.
>Pelland, who in recent weeks has shown himself to be an increasingly
>noxious presence here -- and quite possibly a deranged individual.
>
>I encourage all posters who deplore this kind of racist behavior to
>report Mr. Pelland's conduct to his ISP, and not to respond to his
>attempts to post such things in the future.
>
>BTW, readers who are interested in the continuing Dave Pelland saga,
>or my further responses to his messages, may E-Mail me for details. I
>do not intend to post them on this group, which has already been
>burdened with too many off-topic posts the past couple of days. But I
>do wish to thank all the NG members who have voiced their support.
>
>
>-- BSM
>
>"First, we kill all the lawyers...." -- W. Shakespeare
>"Some see the glass as half-empty. Some see the glass as half-full. I see
the glass as too big." -- G. Carlin
>
>http://www2.netcom.com/~bear.law/CullenandMandel.html
Aazaz
Barry S. Mandel wrote:
> OK, first of all, I apologize for posting something unrelated to
> basketball here, but I feel that the following is important enough
> to share with the other readers of this NG.
[snip]
Barry, you are taking this whole thing way too far. Quite frankly, you
are acting very immaturely. He emailed you because he only wanted you to
read it, not the rest of the world. I mean, you have to ease up a little
bit. You take what people in stupid little newsgroups way too seriously.
I don't think any of us here care that much what the hell you said to
him or he said to you. He isn't required by some law to love everybody
in this newsgroup. That was a pretty shameless attempt to win favor with
the regulars in the newsgroup.
BTW, I stop replying to that "1998 FA string" because I am sick of
replying to your doctoral thesis's on analyzing me and what not. They
were getting simply annoying. Now, if you excuse me, Southpark's
commercials are over and I'm gonna watch it.
--
"beefcake!!!!! BEEFCAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
http://aazaz.home.ml.org
dwalla
Dave Pelland wrote:
>
> Now this has gone too far. That was a typing mistake
That's bullshit, pure and simple. I've run into redneck dorks in the
South who routinely refer to New York as 'Jew York'. Typing mistake, my
ass.
> and you have just
> posted a comment about me being an anti-semite to this newsgroup. I guess
> y'all were right.
About you being an anti-Semite? Yep, we were right.
> I will need an attorney. Like I said previously, slander
> is hard to prove but Mr. Mandel made it easy by posting this to a newsgroup.
> He will be hearing from my attorney.
You better get ready to sue the entire newsgroup. You will get no
sympathy here.
D, in no mood for this today
<snipped Barry's article for bandwidth's sake>
Barry S. Mandel
OK, first of all, I apologize for posting something unrelated to
basketball here, but I feel that the following is important enough
to share with the other readers of this NG.
As you know, an individual named Dave Pelland
Barry S. Mandel
Again, I apologize for the off-topic post, but this is necessary for a
variety of reasons.
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 20:58:05 -0500, "Dave Pelland"
<pell...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Now this has gone too far. That was a typing mistake and you have just
>posted a comment about me being an anti-semite to this newsgroup. I guess
>y'all were right. I will need an attorney. Like I said previously, slander
>is hard to prove but Mr. Mandel made it easy by posting this to a newsgroup.
>He will be hearing from my attorney.
I'll be sure to provide Mr. Pelland's attorney with copies of all of
his "lawyer jokes" as well as copies of all of the anti-attorney
diatribes he's been kind enough to post on this group. They should
make any attorney very glad to take his case.
Mr. Pelland would have a much better case for slander had he not also
posted his venom against New York and lawyers -- both common targets
of abuse for anti-Semites. As for whether "Jew Gardens" was intended
as an anti-Semitic slur, I absolutely believe that it was. Mr.
Pelland claims that it was a typographical error, but it strikes me as
a most peculiar typo when taken within the context of that letter,
which is otherwise full of the type of invective one would expect
from one so shallow. It's rather reminiscent of Dick Armey's
reference to Rep. Barney Frank as "Barney Fag," which was also (rather
lamely, IMO) claimed to be an accident.
Perhaps Mr. Pelland's hand simply slipped on the "J" when he was
typing this post. But I find it curious that, up until this point,
his posts and E-Mails to me had been remarkably free of typographical
errors. Why this one, and only this one? Perhaps Mr. Pelland also
made typographical errors when he described the members of this
newsgroup as "fags" and New York as a "cespool." (A spelling error,
to be sure.) Is Mr. Pelland a bigot, or simply a bad typist? I
cannot say with absolute certainty. I will leave it to the good
people of this NG to judge for themselves.
Andrew Levin
I can't say for sure, because I haven't seen any more of his letters, but J
is directly next to K and it is possible to make that mistake. He hasn't
make any other anti-semetic comments, so I assume that he isn't
anti-semetic. (couldn't say for sure) That does not mean that I don't still
think he is the biggest fuckhead on this planet. (or one of them)... ratboy,
aazaz, T...@BABY.NIG, Miss ©Raßtž®Eé. Or as sick as "Tickle Me Terri"
Dave Pelland wrote in message <6999ae$u...@camel19.mindspring.com>...
>Now this has gone too far. That was a typing mistake and you have just
>posted a comment about me being an anti-semite to this newsgroup. I guess
>y'all were right. I will need an attorney. Like I said previously,
slander
>is hard to prove but Mr. Mandel made it easy by posting this to a
newsgroup.
>He will be hearing from my attorney.
>Barry S. Mandel wrote in message <34d622c0...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
vetman
Aazaz wrote:
> Barry S. Mandel wrote:
>
> > OK, first of all, I apologize for posting something unrelated to
> > basketball here, but I feel that the following is important enough
> > to share with the other readers of this NG.
>
> [snip]
>
> Barry, you are taking this whole thing way too far. Quite frankly, you
> are acting very immaturely. He emailed you because he only wanted you to
> read it, not the rest of the world. I mean, you have to ease up a little
> bit. You take what people in stupid little newsgroups way too seriously.
> I don't think any of us here care that much what the hell you said to
> him or he said to you. He isn't required by some law to love everybody
> in this newsgroup. That was a pretty shameless attempt to win favor with
> the regulars in the newsgroup.
> BTW, I stop replying to that "1998 FA string" because I am sick of
> replying to your doctoral thesis's on analyzing me and what not. They
> were getting simply annoying. Now, if you excuse me, Southpark's
> commercials are over and I'm gonna watch it.
> --
> "beefcake!!!!! BEEFCAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
> http://aazaz.home.ml.org
I thought BSM handled this rather well. I don't think he was immature at
all. This individual from Atlanta obviously is a rascist. BSM has
acknowledged this for all to read and has attempted to cease communications
with the individual who is now violating his private email to further his
antisematic views. What more could you ask from BSM? He is a regular in
this NG and has every right to rely on the support from other co-regulars.
I have been reading excellent posts from BSM for two years now and I hope he
keeps posting. Whether I like what he has to say or not, he also always
confines his posts to the topic at hand...as expected. If this individual
from Atlanta wants to air his antisematic views he should take it to "that"
newsgroup. That is what NG's are for. Thats the most you will get out of
me on a non-Knick topic. Keith
Scott Jolly
I think Dave is fucking funny. He has an attorney? Who gives a fuck? Shit,
I swear....Some people are so stupid. I'd like to give him a punch in
his face right now...
-Scott Goldberg
Mr. Pelland, come on! Take me on with my attorney....Note: If this
offends you in anyway....Good....
Serously, Why the hell would you say that you will be telling your
attorney on Barry. Why don't you go to the Bulls NG and post the note...
ok?
dwalla
Rekks wrote:
>
> Hmmmm.................I "REALLY" was not going to post about this
> stuff. I read this ng about 3 times a day at least, and I try to keep
> up, and I came across the thread that preceded this one and something
> occured to me.....How in the hell can race be an issue if all we are
> doing is reading words? I can honestly say that I had no clue what
> races that many of the regular's of this ng were, nor could I tell by
> reading what they have written, so how in the hell has race become an
> issue???? My name is Rex Flynn, can anyone tell me what race I am?
> Much less by my irc nick Rekks. I tell ya, this is kinda silly, and
> quite honestly aggravating to read. As a Knick fan who is seperated
> from the NY media, I come here to find out all of the hot stuff on the
> knick's that I wouldn't otherwise find out in Virginia. I won't call
> right or wrong, but I will say that a discussion of race as it applies
> here, has no place in this forum. Granted I have only been lurkin in
> this ng for about 2 years, but come on fella's. Basketball is what
> brought all of us here, not race. This is by far one of (if not
> "THE") finest basketball NG's in existence, let's not soil our
> reputation by airing our dirty laundry to the rest of the world. And
> if someone is acting juvenile, immature and petty, put them in your
> kill file, and forget about it. Don't wanna sound preachy and shit,
> but c'mon ppl, let Basketball bring us together not tear us apart.
> For those of whom it actually matter's, I am black (whoops,
> african-american), and I don't think that poster's race's warrant
> consideration. However I would be lying if I said I wasn't curious as
> to what people looked like, or what race they were, for mere fact of
> putting a face to a name, etc. With all of that said and done, let's
> talk hoops, and squash the bullshit.
>
> Love ya all!!!!
> Rex
>
> Back to the Shadows for me :P
>
Consider it done, Rex. Some things can't be ignored and must be
responded to. And with that, I've said all I'm gonna say on the topic.
Great win tonight, eh?
D
Rekks
Love ya all!!!!
Rex
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 20:20:19 GMT, dwalla <dwa...@unix.asb.com> wrote:
>Dave Pelland wrote:
>>
>> Now this has gone too far. That was a typing mistake
>
>That's bullshit, pure and simple. I've run into redneck dorks in the
>South who routinely refer to New York as 'Jew York'. Typing mistake, my
>ass.
>
>> and you have just
>> posted a comment about me being an anti-semite to this newsgroup. I guess
>> y'all were right.
>
>About you being an anti-Semite? Yep, we were right.
>
>> I will need an attorney. Like I said previously, slander
>> is hard to prove but Mr. Mandel made it easy by posting this to a newsgroup.
>> He will be hearing from my attorney.
>
Scott Jolly
Here is THE e-mail Dave sent me:
>Come down to Atlanta and try to punch me in my face you idiot loser or
give
>me your address and we can have it out next time I'm in New York. I
guess
>you are too stupid to realize that the reason Mr. Mandel has such a
problem
>with me is because I called him to task for constantly putting people
like
>you down. He even referred to you in one of his profanity laced messages
to
>me and said that you were an idiot. I believe his exact quote was "I
>shouldn't expect anything from someone who defends an idiot like Scott
>Goldberg"
>Go away you fool. Don't utter my name or respond to this message. You
are
>a stupid fool.
This is a funny letter and it involves some names in it. Hm....I feel
like hitting this stupid ass Dave.
-Scott Goldberg
SZC...@prodigy.com
Spartacus
My favorite part of the movie Spartacus was when the Romans captured the
slaves and they all claimed to be Spartacus rather than to betray him.It is
this unity we need against the neanderthal racist in order to off-set the
contagious plague of racism.Basketball is only a game.Lame Dave's
anti-semetic comments take any discussions here beyond a game.Dave,I am
Spartacus!You,madam, are an intellectually impotent degenerate worthy of the
Asshole of the year award.And it's only January!
vetman wrote in message <34B8DBE7...@lightlink.com>...
dwalla
Spartacus wrote:
>
> My favorite part of the movie Spartacus was when the Romans captured the
> slaves and they all claimed to be Spartacus rather than to betray him.It is
> this unity we need against the neanderthal racist in order to off-set the
> contagious plague of racism.Basketball is only a game.Lame Dave's
> anti-semetic comments take any discussions here beyond a game.Dave,I am
> Spartacus!
No, I'M Spartacus! ;/
D