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Fun game, I am glad the blazers 'the nba basketball team' showed up instead
of the idiot mode ones...
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Laurel T
"Every time 'Sheed took a shot he said
`Don't worry young fella, I get paid for this.
I get paid for doing this to you',"
- Kwame Brown
> For a team that you said wasn't playing all that well, they have managed
> to win some big games lately. :)
Well they would not have had to come back from 24 down against Sac if they
had not been shitty the first half, and Damon won a game they had lost
against the pacers. This is really the first game they have looked like a
team for 4 quarters even when they were winning. And damon's shot tends to
disappear every other game, your guys just happened to fall on his 'on'
night. He knows...
"This is all nice and everything," "But can we come back Tuesday and play
like this against Milwaukee? Can we do this Thursday against Phoenix?"
The good part was 'Sheed. demanding the ball in time outs, playing
aggressive against the best matchups. Lets see if that one continues....
>The sick thing is you know Phillup
> wanted this game..
Yeah, Snapper noted he wanted that one...he was even up off his chair a
lot...
He did not make any excuses or discount the blazers' game:
"It was a well-played game," "We have to swallow our pride and eat this
loss."
>He's been preaching about how soft their schedule has
> been and in Jan., Feb. they were going to have to pay the piper. Now
> they have 5 days off...I get the feeling they won't really get too many
> of those days "off" now.
>
Well they need today off for sure. I was surprised they did not run out of
gas with the pace of the game but they never did.
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Laurel T
"Superstar- A player who hears what he
doesn't want to hear, sees what he doesn't
want to see, and does what he doesn't want to do"
-Unknown
> "This is all nice and everything," "But can we
>come back Tuesday and play like this against
>Milwaukee? Can we do this Thursday against
>Phoenix?"
How bout next weekend..SA and Sac back to back. Then Dallas and Minny
the next week. Nice holiday schedule you got there. :)
>The good part was 'Sheed. demanding the ball
>in time outs, playing aggressive against the
>best matchups. Lets see if that one continues....
I still think the only foward in the NBA that matches up with Sheed is
Duncan, and Duncan should be playing center unlike Sheed.
>Yeah, Snapper noted he wanted that one...he
>was even up off his chair a lot...
Phillup's been a little edgy lately..Had a rare melt down on Kobe in the
Dallas game..Been kinda snippy with the media. Maybe they need to up his
blood pressure meds
>He did not make any excuses or discount the
>blazers' game: "It was a well-played game,"
>"We have to swallow our pride and eat this
>loss."
Yup, no blaming anyone or anything this time, the Lakes just got beat.
>Well they need today off for sure. I was
>surprised they did not run out of gas with the
>pace of the game but they never did.
They'll get today but Monday is gonna be brutal for these guys. They
have to get their defensive rotations down otherwise teams are just
going to keep exploiting mismatches...Now with Slava back he brings a
lot of energy off the bench and as long as he plays well, he is giving
Malone some needed rest. And of course, the games off for KM and Payton
should help keep their legs fresh. :)
> "This is all nice and everything," "But can we
>come back Tuesday and play like this against
>Milwaukee? Can we do this Thursday against
>Phoenix?"
How bout next weekend..SA and Sac back to back. Then Dallas and Minny
the next week. Nice holiday schedule you got there. :)
Not too likely the will get their first road win at Sac....
>The good part was 'Sheed. demanding the ball
>in time outs, playing aggressive against the
>best matchups. Lets see if that one continues....
I still think the only foward in the NBA that matches up with Sheed is
Duncan, and Duncan should be playing center unlike Sheed.
KG....
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Laurel T
"I told him,'Son, what is it with you. Is it ignorance or apathy?'
He said, 'Coach, I don't know and I don't care."
Frank Layden
Two things stood out from their end:
Wow, Randolph is good. He looked like a guy who would turn into an all
star this year when I saw him last Spring, but I'm starting to wonder if he
isn't "future MVP" good.
Not sure if it is the lack of doobie or not, but Damon is back to where he
was years ago. He was the difference in this one.
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in Chief: Thank you for making the world a safer place, and for
making all of us proud to be Americans.
Perhaps, but he has a long way to go and needs to improve a lot on defense
before he is a star. He also needs to learn to pass out of the double and
triple teams better. Right now he a blackhole. Then again perhaps his best
assists are to himself, he can find the basket when it looks pretty
unlikely. That was a fairly typical game for him, they do not run a lot of
plays for him despite the team high average on shots.
>
> Not sure if it is the lack of doobie or not, but Damon is back to where he
> was years ago.
Confidence from lack of having to look over his shoulder to see who is at
the scorers table.....
Playing off the ball most of the time in many games I think is the key,
mouse the shooting guard....and when he is playing point he is passing now
instead of dribbling the clock down, Pippen and Cheeks finally cured him of
it.
> He was the difference in this one.
>
He has won 3 games for them hitting big shots in the crunch. Works about
every other game and then his shot disappears. But to be fair he was getting
pretty worn down with them being so thin on guards so the 2 days off really
helped.
But I think Wallace was the difference this time, him taking the lead and
staying in the post freed up Damon's game.
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Laurel T
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both ends of the floor, I might add."
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>"Briz Wald" <logizomech...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>>terraholm_...@hotmail.com (Terraholm) wrote:
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>>
>>>Fun game, I am glad the blazers 'the nba
>>>basketball team' showed up instead of the idiot
>>>mode ones...
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>For a team that you said wasn't playing all that well, they have managed
>>to win some big games lately. :)
>>
>>
>
>Well they would not have had to come back from 24 down against Sac if they
>had not been shitty the first half, and Damon won a game they had lost
>against the pacers. This is really the first game they have looked like a
>team for 4 quarters even when they were winning. And damon's shot tends to
>disappear every other game, your guys just happened to fall on his 'on'
>night. He knows...
>
Not surprised. EVERYONE seems to have their on game against the Lakers.
>
> "This is all nice and everything," "But can we come back Tuesday and play
>like this against Milwaukee? Can we do this Thursday against Phoenix?"
>
>
>
>The good part was 'Sheed. demanding the ball in time outs, playing
>aggressive against the best matchups. Lets see if that one continues....
>
First time we really missed Robert Horry. George was too small and Grant
too old.
>
>
>
>
>
>>The sick thing is you know Phillup
>>wanted this game..
>>
>>
>
>Yeah, Snapper noted he wanted that one...he was even up off his chair a
>lot...
>
>He did not make any excuses or discount the blazers' game:
>"It was a well-played game," "We have to swallow our pride and eat this
>loss."
>
Can't win 'em all. At least they actually LOST this game, instead of
just handing it to the other guys like they did Dallas. Granted giving
up all those rebounds was horrible to watch, but I think Portland _TOOK_
some of them as well.
>
>
>
>
>>He's been preaching about how soft their schedule has
>>been and in Jan., Feb. they were going to have to pay the piper. Now
>>they have 5 days off...I get the feeling they won't really get too many
>>of those days "off" now.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Well they need today off for sure. I was surprised they did not run out of
>gas with the pace of the game but they never did.
>
>
>
>
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MF
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On March 21 in Los Angeles, former Celtics great (who broke the hearts
of many Lakers fans) Bill Russell had his picture on the scoreboard.
The fans gave him a long ovation.
The previous night, when it was announced that Shaq O'Neal scored his
20,000th point, the fans in Sacramento booed. Then, to make matters
worse, a the game ball was defaced, presumably by a Sacramento fan.
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Sacramento
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>"Briz Wald" <logizomech...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>terraholm_...@hotmail.com (Terraholm) wrote:
>
>
>
>>"This is all nice and everything," "But can we
>>come back Tuesday and play like this against
>>Milwaukee? Can we do this Thursday against
>>Phoenix?"
>>
>>
>
>How bout next weekend..SA and Sac back to back. Then Dallas and Minny
>the next week. Nice holiday schedule you got there. :)
>
>Not too likely the will get their first road win at Sac....
>
>
>
>>The good part was 'Sheed. demanding the ball
>>in time outs, playing aggressive against the
>>best matchups. Lets see if that one continues....
>>
>>
>
>I still think the only foward in the NBA that matches up with Sheed is
>Duncan, and Duncan should be playing center unlike Sheed.
>
Don't tell it to that Maverick guy who we had to fight off when I
suggested Sheed was more valuable than _irk Nodefenski.
>
>KG....
> >
> >The good part was 'Sheed. demanding the ball in time outs, playing
> >aggressive against the best matchups. Lets see if that one continues....
> >
> First time we really missed Robert Horry. George was too small and Grant
> too old.
Med and Malone in the 4th did not have much better luck, 'Sheed seemed to be
on a mission that game.
> >"It was a well-played game," "We have to swallow our pride and eat this
> >loss."
> >
> Can't win 'em all. At least they actually LOST this game, instead of
> just handing it to the other guys like they did Dallas. Granted giving
> up all those rebounds was horrible to watch, but I think Portland _TOOK_
> some of them as well.
>
Davis finally has woke up the last two games and Zach just has a nose for
the ball and gets a lot of offensive rebounds. He is averaging over 4, #1
for forwards.
The lakes had the Blazers shooting outside all night. In the paint was
lopsided lakers favor 60 something to 30 something IIRC. Of course most of
'Sheed's were low post. But the long shots provided a lot of long rebounds
for the guards to run down too.
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and kill one of them."
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>"Michael Fletcher" <mfle...@serverart.org> wrote in message
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>
>>Terraholm wrote:
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>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>>>The good part was 'Sheed. demanding the ball in time outs, playing
>>>aggressive against the best matchups. Lets see if that one continues....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>First time we really missed Robert Horry. George was too small and Grant
>>too old.
>>
>>
>
>Med and Malone in the 4th did not have much better luck, 'Sheed seemed to be
>on a mission that game.
>
Med is better than he was, but still a defensive liability. Malone is a
great post defender, but once someone like sheed gets off it's too late.
Maybe next time Phil will put Malone on sheed first.
>
>
>
>
>>>"It was a well-played game," "We have to swallow our pride and eat this
>>>loss."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Can't win 'em all. At least they actually LOST this game, instead of
>>just handing it to the other guys like they did Dallas. Granted giving
>>up all those rebounds was horrible to watch, but I think Portland _TOOK_
>>some of them as well.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Davis finally has woke up the last two games and Zach just has a nose for
>the ball and gets a lot of offensive rebounds. He is averaging over 4, #1
>for forwards.
>The lakes had the Blazers shooting outside all night. In the paint was
>lopsided lakers favor 60 something to 30 something IIRC. Of course most of
>'Sheed's were low post. But the long shots provided a lot of long rebounds
>for the guards to run down too.
>
>
>
>
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Just going from memory, it seems to me that Sheed has always played
well against Minny. Not that KG can be shut down by anyone, but he can
be forced (enticed) to shoot 20 ft jumpers by players who play good
post D and can get away with the little holds and shoves that only
respected defenders get in the NBA. If it came down to who can
defend/score more from the outside, I would give a slight edge to
Sheed, except on nights when he decides to ride the officials... which
usually means he'll start picking up the ticky-tack fouls away from
the basket.
You are right, KG is another great matchup for Sheed, but it just
seems to me well their play has mostly resulted in a wash.
Briz Wald
Briz Wald
Yeah, they usually hold each other to their averages. But the same can be
said of the 'Sheed/ Duncan or Webber matchups usually. The difference with
KG is that they can guard each other outside better.
--
Laurel T
"I hate to do it, but I have to give Smitty
some credit for his defense.
Steve did a nice job of yelling for help every time Cliff
got the ball." DRob on guarding Uncle Cliffy
>Michael Fletcher <mfle...@serverart.org> wrote in message news:<3FDE901F...@serverart.org>...
>
>
>>Terraholm wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>"Briz Wald" <logizomech...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>>news:6420-3FD...@storefull-3134.bay.webtv.net...
>>>terraholm_...@hotmail.com (Terraholm) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"This is all nice and everything," "But can we
>>>>come back Tuesday and play like this against
>>>>Milwaukee? Can we do this Thursday against
>>>>Phoenix?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>How bout next weekend..SA and Sac back to back. Then Dallas and Minny
>>>the next week. Nice holiday schedule you got there. :)
>>>
>>>Not too likely the will get their first road win at Sac....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The good part was 'Sheed. demanding the ball
>>>>in time outs, playing aggressive against the
>>>>best matchups. Lets see if that one continues....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I still think the only foward in the NBA that matches up with Sheed is
>>>Duncan, and Duncan should be playing center unlike Sheed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Don't tell it to that Maverick guy who we had to fight off when I
>>suggested Sheed was more valuable than _irk Nodefenski.
>>
>>
>>
>PFFffffffttt...Irk is a scorer, and a damn fine bballer for a soft
>euro center, but as much as it kills me I would have to say even
>'Vlade the Impaled' plays beter post D.
>
So do I.
>>Well they would not have had to come back from 24 down against Sac if they
>>had not been shitty the first half, and Damon won a game they had lost
>>against the pacers. This is really the first game they have looked like a
>>team for 4 quarters even when they were winning. And damon's shot tends to
>>disappear every other game, your guys just happened to fall on his 'on'
>>night. He knows...
>>
> Not surprised. EVERYONE seems to have their on game against the Lakers.
Porty just lost to the Bucks at home. Fuckers...
How pissed were you at the 2nd trey Mighty Mouse hit at the end of the game,
identical to the previous one?
--
"I formerly apologize to you for anything insightful I may have said to
you."
* Glenn Greenstein to Brz Wald, 11/19/O3
Was another shoot-out with both teams shooting over 50%. Over 60% much of
the game.
> How pissed were you at the 2nd trey Mighty Mouse hit at the end of the
game,
> identical to the previous one?
>
huh???
Blazers went away from 'Sheed second half, he missed 3 and then never took
another shot until the game was already decided.
--
Laurel T
"If you can't say anything nice, sit next to me."
Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
>> How pissed were you at the 2nd trey Mighty Mouse hit at the end of thegame,
>> identical to the previous one?
>>
>
> huh???
Stoudamire. Got 2 long rebounds with no one around him and hit 3s that kept
extending the lead late in the 4th.
>In article <3FDE8FC3...@serverart.org>, Michael Fletcher
><mfle...@serverart.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>>Well they would not have had to come back from 24 down against Sac if they
>>>had not been shitty the first half, and Damon won a game they had lost
>>>against the pacers. This is really the first game they have looked like a
>>>team for 4 quarters even when they were winning. And damon's shot tends to
>>>disappear every other game, your guys just happened to fall on his 'on'
>>>night. He knows...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Not surprised. EVERYONE seems to have their on game against the Lakers.
>>
>>
>
>Porty just lost to the Bucks at home. Fuckers...
>
>How pissed were you at the 2nd trey Mighty Mouse hit at the end of the game,
>identical to the previous one?
>
Pissed enough that my Art History textbook met up with my wall.
>
>
>--
>"I formerly apologize to you for anything insightful I may have said to
>you."
> * Glenn Greenstein to Brz Wald, 11/19/O3
>
>
In the laker game? Why would I be pissed at him for that?
--
Laurel T
"Wallace is a riddle wrapped in a mystery,
wrapped in a headband." S.I.
>
>
>
> "Chris Smith" <chri...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:0T1Eb.8600$0s2....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
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>> In article <vu0slpj...@corp.supernews.com>, "Terraholm"
>> <terraholm_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> How pissed were you at the 2nd trey Mighty Mouse hit at the end of thegame,
>>>> identical to the previous one?
>>> huh???
>> Stoudamire. Got 2 long rebounds with no one around him and hit 3s that kept
>> extending the lead late in the 4th.
> In the laker game? Why would I be pissed at him for that?
People have said for years that you're a closet Laker fan. So it's not
true?!
Psst...I was talking to Fletch, but responded to your post on accident.
> >How pissed were you at the 2nd trey Mighty Mouse hit at the end of the
game,
> >identical to the previous one?
> >
> Pissed enough that my Art History textbook met up with my wall.
>
=)
Big book, too. Scared my bro half to death.
<< Big book, too. Scared my bro half to death. >>
What period of art history, Fletch?
- Rick
********************
I put the ick in Rick
[This was Damon we were talking about]
I saw somewhere this week that he has huge home-road splits, shooting over
45 at home and mod 30's on the road. That may be why he looks so "every
other night."
> But I think Wallace was the difference this time, him taking the lead and
> staying in the post freed up Damon's game.
True, but what won it were those two long rebound -> three balls.
>Terraholm wrote:
>>
>> He has won 3 games for them hitting big shots in the crunch. Works about
>> every other game and then his shot disappears. But to be fair he was getting
>> pretty worn down with them being so thin on guards so the 2 days off really
>> helped.
>
>[This was Damon we were talking about]
>
>I saw somewhere this week that he has huge home-road splits, shooting over
>45 at home and mod 30's on the road. That may be why he looks so "every
>other night."
>
41.8% EffFG% vs 53.5%. The difference is significant at the 10% level, ie not
very significant. Increase the sample to include last season, and the
home/road difference disappears.
<snip>
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>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:47:46 GMT, Gary Collard <garyc...@netscape.net>
>wrote in <3FE23CA2...@netscape.net>:
>
>>Terraholm wrote:
>>>
>>> He has won 3 games for them hitting big shots in the crunch. Works about
>>> every other game and then his shot disappears. But to be fair he was getting
>>> pretty worn down with them being so thin on guards so the 2 days off really
>>> helped.
>>
>>[This was Damon we were talking about]
>>
>>I saw somewhere this week that he has huge home-road splits, shooting over
>>45 at home and mod 30's on the road. That may be why he looks so "every
>>other night."
>>
>
>41.8% EffFG% vs 53.5%. The difference is significant at the 10% level, ie not
>very significant. Increase the sample to include last season, and the
>home/road difference disappears.
>
><snip>
Never mind. I didn't read your post very closely.
>Michael wrote:
>
><< Big book, too. Scared my bro half to death. >>
>
>What period of art history, Fletch?
>
Asian Art History, Antiquity through about the Tang dynasty.
>
>
>- Rick
>
>********************
>I put the ick in Rick
>
>
McInnis too. Just about the whole team for that matter (except Wallace who
is the reverse)...which is why they have yet to get a road win...
> That may be why he looks so "every
> other night."
It has been every other night at home too most of the time. He had another
good game in the Bucks loss though. 21 pts on 9-17, 10 asts to 1 TO.
>
> > But I think Wallace was the difference this time, him taking the lead
and
> > staying in the post freed up Damon's game.
>
> True, but what won it were those two long rebound -> three balls.
>
They would not have been close enough to need them if wallace had not
carried them there.
--
Laurel T
You can tell a gelding,
you can ask a mare,
but you must discuss it with a stallion.
-unknown horseman
>Asian Art History, Antiquity through about the Tang dynasty.
Wow. What are you majoring in, again?
>>Fletch wrote
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>Asian Art History, Antiquity through about the Tang dynasty.
>>
>>
>
>Wow. What are you majoring in, again?
>
Jazz Studies. I took Art History as a GE because it looked more
interesting than Philosophy 105g.
>
>
>- Rick
>
>********************
>I put the ick in Rick
>
>
Wasn't that just before the Sunny Delight dynasty?
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmco...@yahoo.com
"Hangovers are the body's way of telling us we didn't drink enough to
still be drunk when we woke up the next day."
-- Tidewater Joe
Yeah, nothing's very significant at this point in the season. But some
things have still happened :)
> Increase the sample to include last season, and the
> home/road difference disappears.
As would be expected for any player.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmco...@yahoo.com
"Hangovers are the body's way of telling us we didn't drink enough to
> Jazz Studies. I took Art History as a GE because it looked more
> interesting than Philosophy 105g. >>
Have you taken a modern art history class to complement the Jazz Studies? The
reciprocating influences would be interesting.
Have you taken any philosophy courses as part of your GE?