http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/11/14/brawl-will-spice-up-movie-about-artest
DENVER -- Five years after the "The Malice at the Palace,'' Ron Artest
isn't showing remorse. In fact, one could say he is embracing his
infamous place in history.
Artest, a Lakers forward, said in an interview Friday with FanHouse he's
making a movie about his life. He said he made sure to touch upon the
Nov. 19, 2004 brawl at the Palace of Auburn Hills in order to "kind of
spice up the movie a little bit.''
In that basketbrawl, Artest, then with Indiana, charged into the stands
in the final minute of a game at Detroit after a fight had broken out
and a fan had thrown a cup of beer at Artest. The game was called, and
there were nine players suspended for a total of 146 games. Artest got
the worst penalty, being sat down for the final 73 games of the season.
Thursday marks the fifth-year anniversary, and Artest will play that
night at home against Chicago. Artest, who celebrated his 30th birthday
Friday, was asked if he's matured and is a different person since the brawl.
"Not really,'' he said before the Lakers were crushed by Denver 105-79
at the Pepsi Center. "I'm the same person.''
Artest then was asked if it was just a bad night for him.
"It wasn't a bad night for me,'' he said. "It was a bad night for
everybody else.''
Artest doesn't shy away from that night. In fact, he made sure he
included material on the brawl in a movie he told FanHouse he's making
about his life called Therapy.
"I didn't even realize it was the fifth-year anniversary,'' Artest said.
"I'm actually working on a movie about it. It's going to be pretty cool.
It's like a docudrama. I'm playing me. (The brawl) is like a small part,
but it's a part of it. It's to just kind of (to) spice up the movie a
little bit, but (the movie) is deeper than that. It's all true.''
Artest said he has a production company in Los Angeles called Tru
Warrior Enterprises, which comes from his nickname. He said he has a
''silent partner'' he wouldn't name, and the partner is putting up money
for the film that will be available next summer on DVD.
"There are some reenacted situations that happened before (the brawl)
and some reenacted situations that happened after,'' said Artest, who
said no actual brawl footage will be used and that "all'' of the
"various fights'' he has had during his career will be chronicled in the
film. "People will be able to understand what happened (in the brawl).
They'll be talking and acting, both (about the brawl in the movie).''
Asked about his abilities as an actor, Artest said, "Decent, but it's
like me so I don't need really to act.''
Artest said the movie will chronicle his time at St. John's University
until now, and touch upon odds he has overcome. Artest hopes there will
a message in the film for "people that get in trouble (who are)
high-risk kids (from) high-risk neighborhoods.''
"Just advice,'' Artest said of what the movie will offer. "My advice
isn't always the best advice, but maybe it might work for somebody.''
> "Just advice,'' Artest said of what the movie will offer. "My advice
> isn't always the best advice, but maybe it might work for somebody.''
>
who knew Ron was the voice of reason?
Only Ron
good to see that Ron's really making great strides in his life...who knew
that the Lakers would have such a calming effect =8-)
A movie about Artest? Shouldn't be called 'Therapy'. It should be called
'Chemical Straitjacket'.
I'll wait for the bit torrent.
--
Renewable Energy = Homeland Security
And at only 10 games into 5 seasons guaranteed.... most every laker fan
seems convinced ...I know Buss is a poker player but a $34 million bet
on Ron Ron's head staying in place for 5 years still seems as weird to
me as it gets...
to win a million you have to bet a million...
I would have bet it on the proven one with a brain...
I'll go with whatever Jerry wants...he knows what he's doing
We shall see...not even a team option on that contract...
don't worry...be happy...the younguns are just percentage points behind the
champs without his impending implosion =;@)
I am entertained...
>the younguns are just percentage points behind the
> champs without his impending implosion =;@)
Like that means any more 10 games into the season than RonRon's good
behavior "so far".
the Lakers aim to please...
>>the younguns are just percentage points behind the
>> champs without his impending implosion =;@)
>
> Like that means any more 10 games into the season than RonRon's good
> behavior "so far".
>
how about an over/under...
On Ron or the Blazers?
Hell I already said I think Artest would behave at least a season. And
the lakers likely could have had him for a shorter contract or team
options, not like they spent any time negotiating, just handed him the
max MLE.
2 years and a 3rd year team option and I would have thought it a good
deal. But even if he behaves his defense is dropping off some and he
will be 35 the fifth year and have an option at almost 8 million.
As for the blazers the bench depth is evaporating, Batum out 3 to 5
months with shoulder surgery... Trout breaks his foot in today's game,
they say 8 weeks but it is the same bone as Webster last year when he
missed the whole season, which make the antique Juwan Howard the only
backup PF except a 2nd round rookie...
And bayless sprains his ankle before the game on some bobcat arena booby
trap...with Nate starting 3 PGs that left the bench pretty short on
guards for a game that was their 4th on the road in 5 days.
Martell and Rudy have been spotty at best.
Joel is likely the best bench player now...Oden has been great when not
in foul trouble but that is rare... that they are still beating bad
teams does not mean much.
Lakers get Gasol back soon I assume...
on Ron...it would be fun
> Hell I already said I think Artest would behave at least a season. And
> the lakers likely could have had him for a shorter contract or team
> options, not like they spent any time negotiating, just handed him the
> max MLE.
> 2 years and a 3rd year team option and I would have thought it a good
> deal. But even if he behaves his defense is dropping off some and he
> will be 35 the fifth year and have an option at almost 8 million.
>
>
they have a proven track record and Mitch can always pull a rabbit out of
his hat
>
> As for the blazers the bench depth is evaporating, Batum out 3 to 5
> months with shoulder surgery... Trout breaks his foot in today's game,
> they say 8 weeks but it is the same bone as Webster last year when he
> missed the whole season, which make the antique Juwan Howard the only
> backup PF except a 2nd round rookie...
> And bayless sprains his ankle before the game on some bobcat arena booby
> trap...with Nate starting 3 PGs that left the bench pretty short on
> guards for a game that was their 4th on the road in 5 days.
it's a marathon and inuries makes it a crap shoot that's why PJ called the
strike shortened season *
> Martell and Rudy have been spotty at best.
> Joel is likely the best bench player now...Oden has been great when not
> in foul trouble but that is rare... that they are still beating bad
> teams does not mean much.
>
Oden was still looking a little slow of foot when I saw him. I'm sure
that's why he's getting in foul trouble now...he's going to be a monster
when he gets his quickness back...
I'm guessing that the boys will pass us in the standings when they add
another dozen to that current win streak =8-/
> Lakers get Gasol back soon I assume
year 2009...assume NOTHING!...tin foil hat back on
>
> Oden was still looking a little slow of foot when I saw him. I'm sure
> that's why he's getting in foul trouble now...he's going to be a monster
> when he gets his quickness back...
His quickness is back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZuaIPOAlbk
Out first half with fouls, 14 pts, 6 rbs and 2 blks in the 2nd half.
Sometimes he still over thinks but physically he is fine. And after the
first 3 games (when I was wondering if he was the next Kwame instead of
Bowie) he has been mostly made of monster.
He just makes mistakes and picks up dumb fouls. Partly it will be awhile
before he gets any benefit of doubt...It is improving. Nate has him
rationed, 2 fouls in the first half and he sits out til the 3rd.
> I'm guessing that the boys will pass us in the standings when they add
> another dozen to that current win streak =8-/
I think it ends monday in Atlanta. They are pooped, 5 games in 7 days, 4
on the road...on the longest travel time the league could devise...like
OKC then north to Minny and then back to NOLA... besides the hawks being
a good team good and a bad matchup.
>
>> Lakers get Gasol back soon I assume
>
> year 2009...assume NOTHING!...tin foil hat back on
Loan me some of that...
> VicXnews wrote:
>> Terraholm <terrahol...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7m9gbnF3frqslU1
>
>>
>> Oden was still looking a little slow of foot when I saw him. I'm sure
>> that's why he's getting in foul trouble now...he's going to be a monster
>> when he gets his quickness back...
>
> His quickness is back.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZuaIPOAlbk
> Out first half with fouls, 14 pts, 6 rbs and 2 blks in the 2nd half.
>
>
he's getting there...
> Sometimes he still over thinks but physically he is fine. And after the
> first 3 games (when I was wondering if he was the next Kwame instead of
> Bowie) he has been mostly made of monster.
he was slow getting down the court the day I saw him...it was a net game so
the picture was not great...I think it was the ATL game
> He just makes mistakes and picks up dumb fouls. Partly it will be awhile
> before he gets any benefit of doubt...It is improving. Nate has him
> rationed, 2 fouls in the first half and he sits out til the 3rd.
>
I think Nate should let him play through it in the early season
>> I'm guessing that the boys will pass us in the standings when they add
>> another dozen to that current win streak =8-/
>
>
> I think it ends monday in Atlanta. They are pooped, 5 games in 7 days, 4
> on the road...on the longest travel time the league could devise...like
> OKC then north to Minny and then back to NOLA... besides the hawks being
> a good team good and a bad matchup.
>
>>
I like the way they jerk the Blazers around...I'd like to see some of the
Eastern teams play that schedule
http://www.nba.com/blazers/schedule/pocket_schedule.html
>>> Lakers get Gasol back soon I assume
>>
>> year 2009...assume NOTHING!...tin foil hat back on
>
> Loan me some of that...
>
forget it...I need all I can get...=8-)
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZuaIPOAlbk
>> Out first half with fouls, 14 pts, 6 rbs and 2 blks in the 2nd half.
>>
>>
>
> he's getting there...
>
>> Sometimes he still over thinks but physically he is fine. And after the
>> first 3 games (when I was wondering if he was the next Kwame instead of
>> Bowie) he has been mostly made of monster.
>
> he was slow getting down the court the day I saw him...it was a net game so
> the picture was not great...I think it was the ATL game
He has no excuse...
From a training camp article:
In each of his five training camps, coach Nate McMillan holds a
conditioning test that requires players to run the length of the court
and back five times, or in other words, 10 lines. They have to do this
in four different sets.
Guards are allowed 61 seconds to do 10 lines, forwards 63 seconds and
centers 64 seconds. Players are allowed to �bank� time in each set,
meaning if they finish under the designated time for one set, it carries
over to the next sets.
Blake set what McMillan believes is the best time for any player in his
10-years of holding the test, finishing with 24 seconds to spare.
Martell Webster previously held the Blazers record with a plus-21 time.
Oden, meanwhile, post an impressive plus-18, which was tied for second
best on the team with LaMarcus Aldridge.
>
>> He just makes mistakes and picks up dumb fouls. Partly it will be awhile
>> before he gets any benefit of doubt...It is improving. Nate has him
>> rationed, 2 fouls in the first half and he sits out til the 3rd.
>>
>
> I think Nate should let him play through it in the early season
Tried that...but he is so worried it just messes him up more. This works
better.
>>
>
> I like the way they jerk the Blazers around...I'd like to see some of the
> Eastern teams play that schedule
> http://www.nba.com/blazers/schedule/pocket_schedule.html
Well at least they have the best plane to be comfortable...Blazer 1 is a
customized 747 owned by Allen not a chartered plane. Plus the sleep
thing... stay up late, sleep in... to keep them on west coast time as
much as possible.
>
>>>> Lakers get Gasol back soon I assume
>>> year 2009...assume NOTHING!...tin foil hat back on
>> Loan me some of that...
>>
>
> forget it...I need all I can get...=8-)
Stingy hoarder!
> VicXnews wrote:
>> Terraholm <terrahol...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7m9l92F37oi7nU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> VicXnews wrote:
>>>> Terraholm <terrahol...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7m9gbnF3frqslU1
>>>> Oden was still looking a little slow of foot when I saw him. I'm sure
>>>> that's why he's getting in foul trouble now...he's going to be a
>>>> monster when he gets his quickness back...
>>> His quickness is back.
>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZuaIPOAlbk
>>> Out first half with fouls, 14 pts, 6 rbs and 2 blks in the 2nd half.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> he's getting there...
>>
>>> Sometimes he still over thinks but physically he is fine. And after
>>> the first 3 games (when I was wondering if he was the next Kwame
>>> instead of Bowie) he has been mostly made of monster.
>>
>> he was slow getting down the court the day I saw him...it was a net
>> game so the picture was not great...I think it was the ATL game
>
> He has no excuse...
>
> From a training camp article:
> In each of his five training camps, coach Nate McMillan holds a
> conditioning test that requires players to run the length of the court
> and back five times, or in other words, 10 lines. They have to do this
> in four different sets.
>
> Guards are allowed 61 seconds to do 10 lines, forwards 63 seconds and
> centers 64 seconds. Players are allowed to �bank� time in each set,
> meaning if they finish under the designated time for one set, it carries
> over to the next sets.
>
> Blake set what McMillan believes is the best time for any player in his
> 10-years of holding the test, finishing with 24 seconds to spare.
> Martell Webster previously held the Blazers record with a plus-21 time.
>
> Oden, meanwhile, post an impressive plus-18, which was tied for second
> best on the team with LaMarcus Aldridge.
>
>
>
>>
>>> He just makes mistakes and picks up dumb fouls. Partly it will be
>>> awhile before he gets any benefit of doubt...It is improving. Nate
>>> has him rationed, 2 fouls in the first half and he sits out til the
>>> 3rd.
>>>
>>
>> I think Nate should let him play through it in the early season
>
> Tried that...but he is so worried it just messes him up more. This works
> better.
>
>
he has to learn sometime...
>>>
>>
>> I like the way they jerk the Blazers around...I'd like to see some of
>> the Eastern teams play that schedule
>> http://www.nba.com/blazers/schedule/pocket_schedule.html
>
> Well at least they have the best plane to be comfortable...Blazer 1 is a
> customized 747 owned by Allen not a chartered plane. Plus the sleep
> thing... stay up late, sleep in... to keep them on west coast time as
> much as possible.
>
they're gonna get soft
>>
>>>>> Lakers get Gasol back soon I assume
>>>> year 2009...assume NOTHING!...tin foil hat back on
>>> Loan me some of that...
>>>
>>
>> forget it...I need all I can get...=8-)
>
> Stingy hoarder!
>
it's a matter of survival...
on the other hand no one ever called me Bogart =8-)
why do i get the feeling that you are just a little jealous that the
lakers got artest?and that you are going to spend the entire season
posting things to try and diminish his talents on the bball court. :)
>>>> He just makes mistakes and picks up dumb fouls. Partly it will be
>>>> awhile before he gets any benefit of doubt...It is improving. Nate
>>>> has him rationed, 2 fouls in the first half and he sits out til the
>>>> 3rd.
>>>>
>>> I think Nate should let him play through it in the early season
>> Tried that...but he is so worried it just messes him up more. This works
>> better.
>>
>>
>
> he has to learn sometime...
He is learning, it is just why they pay Nate to train him him...
This year it does not take him out mentally for the whole game. He comes
back and has good 2nd halves.
>>> I like the way they jerk the Blazers around...I'd like to see some of
>>> the Eastern teams play that schedule
>>> http://www.nba.com/blazers/schedule/pocket_schedule.html
>> Well at least they have the best plane to be comfortable...Blazer 1 is a
>> customized 747 owned by Allen not a chartered plane. Plus the sleep
>> thing... stay up late, sleep in... to keep them on west coast time as
>> much as possible.
>>
>
>
> they're gonna get soft
uh huh
lol.... Seems to me they just got a title with Ariza.
getting talent over character can be other teams stuff now, been there
done that... rooted for them at that....lakers are welcome to guys that
starve dogs abuse their wives and the rest of that baggage.
>and that you are going to spend the entire season posting things
5 seasons most likely ;-) Highly entertaining.
> to try and diminish his talents on the bball court. :)
I have not questioned his talent on the court. When his head is in the
game he is excellent. Not quite as good as when he was DPOTY but close.
He has his faults on the court as does every player, but I expect those
will improve under jackson, heck they they already have. That he will be
5 years older in 5 years and making more money is hardly trying to
'diminish his talent', that is just how it is...He will still be good
because losing a step physically on defense can be made up with his
BBall IQ ahead of the game to some extent. Will Jackson still be
coaching? With his history I will be surprised if he does not mess up.
But all will be forgiven now by you all...=)
But she has a point in that Boston only gave the Artest clone 3 years.
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"There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent
person could believe in them." -- George Orwell
As a long time Pacer fan, I was a fan of Ron Artest as well. The
"brawl" was inexcusable and clearly Ron had reached a breaking point
in his life at that time.
Since the suspension and his return to the NBA, he's been a model
citizen. His time in Houston was almost entirely without any
controversy. Artest is a unique person and I'm sure he has demons to
battle everyday. I still like him and maybe his
docudrama/autobiographical movie will explain him to other people. Or
maybe not.
Can he stay out of trouble for 5 years in Los Angeles? Probably but
will he really be there for 5 years is the bigger question. Probably
not.
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> Steve
>
He probably will remain in Los Angeles until his production
and contribution to the team decreases to the point where the
Lakers find they must replace him. The defensive abilities Ron
Ron brings with him is something the Lakers have been lacking.
He reminds me a lot Rick Fox; only more intense. And given the
situation, Ron can score 17 points a night if Lakers should
ever need that kind of production out of him.
Mark
Some model...
All the shit about the trade and being told to stay away from the team
in Indy, the players saying they did not want him back when he changed
his mind about wanting a trade.
In Sac only got his dogs taken away more than once for not feeding them
and finally forced to give them up... on the 5th police call to his
house in 6 months he was arrested for domestic violence, pleaded guilty
and is on probation still, suspended by the league for 5 games for that
and lucky it was not 10. If it had been Oregon with children present it
would have been a automatic felony and a minimum 10 games by rule if he
available to play and was not in jail...
Suspended by the kings at least a game or so and caused some turmoil.
Had some sort of public spat with the kings when they refused to bring
back Bonzi and other shit not helpful...
>His time in Houston was almost entirely without any
> controversy.
From Simmons ( I know but he happens to be a good friend of GM Daryl Morey)
These anecdotes just bounce off people now. Artest is a benevolent
crazy. Or so we think. Being around this nuttiness every day is a little
different from merely hearing about the nuttiness in secondhand
anecdotes. I know for a fact he routinely broke plays on offense and is
still a handful behind the scenes, and the Rockets buried every 2008-09
story that would have made this patently clear. For instance, Artest
routinely walked around in his underwear in public places: the Rockets'
team bus, hotels, you name it. People around the team barely flinched
after a while. Before Game 7 of the Lakers series -- only the biggest
game of the entire season -- they finally flinched.
Here's what happened: Artest missed the first two team buses (the
ones for players, coaches and team personnel) from Houston's hotel to
the Staples Center and barely made the third and final bus, which was
reserved for business staff, sponsors and friends of the team. These
stunned people watched Artest sprint to the bus right before it left,
jump on and take one of the remaining seats ... yes, wearing only his
underwear. Owner Leslie Alexander happened to be sitting on the bus and
witnessed the whole thing. And you wonder why the Houston Rockets didn't
make any effort whatsoever to bring back Artest.
> Artest is a unique person and I'm sure he has demons to
> battle everyday. I still like him and maybe his
> docudrama/autobiographical movie will explain him to other people. Or
> maybe not.
I have bi-polar friends including my roommate...they manage to not
commit assault and feed their dogs.
>
> Can he stay out of trouble for 5 years in Los Angeles? Probably but
> will he really be there for 5 years is the bigger question. Probably
> not.
I think 'Probably not' on both counts. But it should be entertaining...
you must have not been here for the jr rider love fest... when the lakers pick up a player that did damage to the blazers she
usually spends the
rest of his lakers career denigrating him...
so expect this to go on for about 4 and 1/2 more years...
man i wish the anti-guard was a blazer, oh the fun that would be... :-)
What damage did Artest do to the blazers? Hold Roy to 28 pts, 3 pts
above his season average on better than his average FGP in that first
round?
Or Rider for that matter. They got him for nothing, rode his best
seasons to the WCF and traded him for nice guy and allstar at that time
Smitty. It was the Hawks he destroyed for years...
Here is the list of the type of nut-case players I lump with Artest:
Sprewell, Rider, Iverson, Stephen Jackson, Delonte West talented players
that initially helped a team but not only had violent off court problems
but flat hurt or even ruined some team along the way, or are working at
it in West's case.
The ex-blazers I actually did 'hate' was Trent and RSO Patterson but
they do not belong on that list.
>
> so expect this to go on for about 4 and 1/2 more years...
I doubt Artest lasts that long nor helps them that much... the wife
beater Kobe wanted that I am glad they did not manage to get is
Kidd...that would not have been amusing at all...
>
> man i wish the anti-guard was a blazer, oh the fun that would be... :-)
Each to their own entertainment...=)
The player I am jealous of is Kobe. He has done plenty of 'damage' to
the Blazers...And I always took his side as soon as the facts emerged on
the so called rape case.
--
Laurel T
"Quite honestly we have had players on our teams before
that make Bonzi Wells look like Mary Poppins."
Hubie Brown
hmmmm, im thinking he helped to knock your team out of the
playoffs last year... :-)
but hey, if something different happened, please fill me in on it...
>
> Or Rider for that matter. They got him for nothing, rode his best
> seasons to the WCF and traded him for nice guy and allstar at that time
> Smitty. It was the Hawks he destroyed for years...
smitty, yeah... him and pip helped you guys get to the finals...
ooooooooooooooops, my bad... :-)
>
> Here is the list of the type of nut-case players I lump with Artest:
> Sprewell, Rider, Iverson, Stephen Jackson, Delonte West talented players
> that initially helped a team but not only had violent off court problems
> but flat hurt or even ruined some team along the way, or are working at
> it in West's case.
>
> The ex-blazers I actually did 'hate' was Trent and RSO Patterson but
> they do not belong on that list.
>
>>
>> so expect this to go on for about 4 and 1/2 more years...
>
> I doubt Artest lasts that long nor helps them that much... the wife
> beater Kobe wanted that I am glad they did not manage to get is
> Kidd...that would not have been amusing at all...
please, kidd for bynum wouldve been ridiculous and even i said so
during his bust period...
>
>>
>> man i wish the anti-guard was a blazer, oh the fun that would be... :-)
>
> Each to their own entertainment...=)
>
>
> The player I am jealous of is Kobe. He has done plenty of 'damage' to
> the Blazers...And I always took his side as soon as the facts emerged on
> the so called rape case.
well come on, there was only three different samples of jizz on her
panties from that day... doesnt seem to hard to figure out what she
was trying to do...
i wouldve never paid that bitch a dime... i wouldve rather paid the
two million or so in legal fees making sure she didnt get shit... im
pretty sick of all this politically correct get back to your life and
endorsements shit... kobe wouldve been a hero to a lot of guys
had he stuck to his guns like he wanted to in the first place...
but alas, money is always the key... buy her silence and it
will all go away quickly... pitiful...
>>> you must have not been here for the jr rider love fest...
>>> when the lakers pick up a player that did damage to the blazers she
>>> usually spends the
>>> rest of his lakers career denigrating him...
>> What damage did Artest do to the blazers? Hold Roy to 28 pts, 3 pts
>> above his season average on better than his average FGP in that first
>> round?
>
> hmmmm, im thinking he helped to knock your team out of the
> playoffs last year... :-)
>
> but hey, if something different happened, please fill me in on it...
Sure it is Yao, Battier and Brooks I hate then, because they did the
real damage...
Artest hurt them one game. Think of the list of players I should hate
for that...
The player I hate worst all time must be Glenn Rice no... Brian Shaw!!!
>> Or Rider for that matter. They got him for nothing, rode his best
>> seasons to the WCF and traded him for nice guy and allstar at that time
>> Smitty. It was the Hawks he destroyed for years...
>
> smitty, yeah... him and pip helped you guys get to the finals...>
> ooooooooooooooops, my bad... :-)
Back to rider since that is the argument...
After getting knocked out in the first round 8 straight years, getting
to the WCF was much appreciated. Especially beating Utah. Lakers and
blazers both got swept by the spurs that year.
>> Here is the list of the type of nut-case players I lump with Artest:
>> Sprewell, Rider, Iverson, Stephen Jackson, Delonte West talented players
>> that initially helped a team but not only had violent off court problems
>> but flat hurt or even ruined some team along the way, or are working at
>> it in West's case.
>>
>> The ex-blazers I actually did 'hate' was Trent and RSO Patterson but
>> they do not belong on that list.
>>
>>> so expect this to go on for about 4 and 1/2 more years...
>> I doubt Artest lasts that long nor helps them that much... the wife
>> beater Kobe wanted that I am glad they did not manage to get is
>> Kidd...that would not have been amusing at all...
>
> please, kidd for bynum wouldve been ridiculous and even i said so
> during his bust period...
Now yes. Short term, that season, not so much of a bad trade.
>>> man i wish the anti-guard was a blazer, oh the fun that would be... :-)
>> Each to their own entertainment...=)
>>
>>
>> The player I am jealous of is Kobe. He has done plenty of 'damage' to
>> the Blazers...And I always took his side as soon as the facts emerged on
>> the so called rape case.
>
> well come on, there was only three different samples of jizz on her
> panties from that day... doesnt seem to hard to figure out what she
> was trying to do...
>
> i wouldve never paid that bitch a dime... i wouldve rather paid the
> two million or so in legal fees making sure she didnt get shit...
Even if he won there would have been a civil suit with a lesser standard
of proof.
>im
> pretty sick of all this politically correct get back to your life and
> endorsements shit... kobe wouldve been a hero to a lot of guys
> had he stuck to his guns like he wanted to in the first place...
>
> but alas, money is always the key... buy her silence and it
> will all go away quickly... pitiful...
A lot more to it than that. The risk was 'tremendous' with the colorado
laws it was basically a guaranteed life sentence and career ending...
and the jury pool was small town rednecks with their white women
'victim' of a black guy.
Sign that stupid statement and get on with his life was the best
possible solution and a sure thing.
>>
but
>> will he really be there for 5 years is the bigger question. Probably
>> not.
>
> I think 'Probably not' on both counts. But it should be entertaining...
Changed my mind, he will likely be there at least 4 years barring a
buyout...
Besides the guaranteed 5 years with no team options, he has a 15% trade
kicker.
If they decided to trade him say next season (because he starts causing
trouble again)... a team would have to gamble on his head and pay him
over 4 million up front, besides 30+ remaining on his contract, bringing
it to a nearly 9 mil average for 4 years.