Support From Family, Team Cheers Palmeiro
jam R.
I'm confused, did Palmeiro get busted for steriods or just return after
beating cancer? I can't tell from reading this article.
And Isn't he still using the "I accidentally took steriods" story like Barry
Bonds? These guys are setting awesome examples for their kids, not to
mention everyone elses.
"See son, daddy was walking into the clubhouse one day, and tripped over a
cork-filled bat that I had borrowed from Sammy Sosa, (purely for crowd
demos) and on my way down I fell onto a syringe filled with steroids."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050813/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_palmeiro_orioles
By DAVID GINSBURG, AP Sports Writer Sat Aug 13, 6:12 PM ET
BALTIMORE - Rafael Palmeiro's life changed forever when he received a 10-day
suspension for using steroids. He can only hope his positive drug test
doesn't have the same effect on his two boys.
Palmeiro said Saturday that his return has been made easier by the support
he's received from his teammates and his sons, Patrick, 15, and Preston, 10.
Both boys were with their father in the Baltimore clubhouse for much of the
summer, and joined him in Seattle last month when he got his 3,000th hit.
They were noticeably absent when Palmeiro returned from his suspension
Thursday.
"The first couple of days I didn't want to bring them back, but they wanted
to come. They feel like they are part of this team," Palmeiro said. "The
guys really like for them to be around."
So does Palmeiro.
"They took it in stride. They were very supportive. They tell me they love
me every day, which means a lot to me," he said. "Hopefully, their lives
have not changed like mine. Hopefully, they can live a normal life and
continue on with baseball and hopefully they can enjoy their life and not
worry about their dad so much."
Palmeiro should find out Sunday how the fans in Baltimore will react to the
positive drug test that tarnished his reputation and raised questions about
his candidacy for the Hall of Fame.
Palmeiro was omitted from the starting lineup for a third straight game
Saturday, but Orioles interim manager Sam Perlozzo expects to pencil him in
as Baltimore's designated hitter on Sunday against Toronto.
"We'd like to see him get in there tomorrow to DH, and if it worked out OK,
fire him again in there Tuesday (in Oakland)," Perlozzo said Saturday
afternoon.
The Orioles planned to honor Palmeiro on Sunday for becoming the fourth
player in baseball history to reach 3,000 hits and 500 homers, but the
celebration was canceled at Palmeiro's request soon after his suspension was
announced on Aug. 1.
It figures to be a memorable day for Palmeiro anyway, because it will mark
the first time he plays in front of the home fans since the suspension. No
matter what kind of reception he receives, it will probably be worth it to
get back into the routine of playing baseball.
"I've always known to come to the ballpark and play and be in the lineup.
I've never missed time because of injuries," Palmeiro said. "I've had days
off, where I knew coming in that I wasn't going to play, but I've never sat
out 10 days in a row during the season. That was totally new to me. To play
a whole career and not know what that's like, that's unusual. Now I'm
dealing with it as best I can."
Palmeiro can expect a mixed reaction upon his return. Some fans booed when
he went on the field Friday night as the benches cleared after Eric Hinske
was hit by a pitch, but one fan at Saturday's game carried a sign that said,
"RAFFY, WE FORGIVE YOU. GO O'S."
halfmeasures
jam R. wrote:
> I'm confused, did Palmeiro get busted for steriods or just return after
> beating cancer? I can't tell from reading this article.
>
> And Isn't he still using the "I accidentally took steriods" story like Barry
> Bonds? These guys are setting awesome examples for their kids, not to
> mention everyone elses.
>
> "See son, daddy was walking into the clubhouse one day, and tripped over a
> cork-filled bat that I had borrowed from Sammy Sosa, (purely for crowd
> demos) and on my way down I fell onto a syringe filled with steroids."
Want to get some good laughs just go to the O's newsgroup. I know, this
guy is a fucking hero in Baltimore. I notice they have benched his ass
the first 3 days back. "Fighting cancer" and "I tripped over one of
Sammy's bats." Great stuff! I wonder how Raffy's father took this. I
hear just like Jason's dad he was a real Mantle fan.
The shit the guy took can only be injected. Face it though it's
Baltimore. They are so starved for a winner they're still clinging to
Ripken and his streak, which is the only thing that will get him in the
Hall.
They're hoping he returns, sort of like a Christ, and manages the team
and they'll ride him and a white horse to the World Series.
>
>
>
>
>
mrbrklyn
small person revels in the misery of others to this degree.
Ruben
Scott Reeve
> I'm confused, did Palmeiro get busted for steriods or just return after
> beating cancer? I can't tell from reading this article.
>
> And Isn't he still using the "I accidentally took steriods" story like Barry
> Bonds? These guys are setting awesome examples for their kids, not to
> mention everyone elses.
>
> "See son, daddy was walking into the clubhouse one day, and tripped over a
> cork-filled bat that I had borrowed from Sammy Sosa, (purely for crowd
> demos) and on my way down I fell onto a syringe filled with steroids."
>
>
>
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050813/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_palmeiro_orioles
> By DAVID GINSBURG, AP Sports Writer Sat Aug 13, 6:12 PM ET
>
> BALTIMORE - Rafael Palmeiro's life changed forever when he received a 10-day
> suspension for using steroids. He can only hope his positive drug test
> doesn't have the same effect on his two boys.
>
<snip lots of the article>
>
> Palmeiro can expect a mixed reaction upon his return. Some fans booed when
> he went on the field Friday night as the benches cleared after Eric Hinske
> was hit by a pitch, but one fan at Saturday's game carried a sign that said,
> "RAFFY, WE FORGIVE YOU. GO O'S."
>
>
I wonder if the O's fans will give him the "Keith Hernandez Standing O".
Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
"halfmeasures" <will...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1124006800.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Not this year, they're not.
halfmeasures
Gee Rubie. Hate is a very strong word. It's not baseball fans as a
whole, just Baltimore Baseball fans. It's more intense pity, coupled
with amusement. Don't take it so personally. Just keep going to Camden
Yards and shouting "Yankees Suck" and get it off your chest.
Actually I think Weaver was just about one of the best managers ever.
mrbrklyn
It's more like contempuos hatred, the kind of insolenet hatefulness
that Yankee fans spur out of their ignorant mouths all the time.
The Yankee's do suck, but not as much as their fans. Their fans
***really*** are the scum of the earth, rooting for a team owned by a
convicted criminal, one of the ugliest human beings to ever walk the
earth.
glad to see Jason is hitting for you now..
Ruben
sfb
he won't say anything of substance - can we say Martha Stewart who went
to jail for lying about somebody else's crime - the press is only going
to get sugar coated platitudes.
Notice he said nothing about his loving wife who accidentally bought the
steroid enhanced corn flakes at Wal-Marts.
"jam R." <z1.@c.c> wrote in message
news:9DCLe.31703$D21....@fe07.news.easynews.com...
Tom MacIntyre
wrote:
>
>jam R. wrote:
>> I'm confused, did Palmeiro get busted for steriods or just return after
>> beating cancer? I can't tell from reading this article.
>>
>> And Isn't he still using the "I accidentally took steriods" story like Barry
>> Bonds? These guys are setting awesome examples for their kids, not to
>> mention everyone elses.
>>
>> "See son, daddy was walking into the clubhouse one day, and tripped over a
>> cork-filled bat that I had borrowed from Sammy Sosa, (purely for crowd
>> demos) and on my way down I fell onto a syringe filled with steroids."
>
>Want to get some good laughs just go to the O's newsgroup. I know, this
>guy is a fucking hero in Baltimore. I notice they have benched his ass
>the first 3 days back. "Fighting cancer" and "I tripped over one of
>Sammy's bats." Great stuff! I wonder how Raffy's father took this. I
>hear just like Jason's dad he was a real Mantle fan.
>The shit the guy took can only be injected.
Really? I heard that it was Winstrol, which is available in pill form.
Tom
Kenny1111
> On 14 Aug 2005 01:06:40 -0700, "halfmeasures" <will...@netscape.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>jam R. wrote:
>>
>>>I'm confused, did Palmeiro get busted for steriods or just return after
>>>beating cancer? I can't tell from reading this article.
>>>
>>>And Isn't he still using the "I accidentally took steriods" story like Barry
>>>Bonds? These guys are setting awesome examples for their kids, not to
>>>mention everyone elses.
>>>
>>>"See son, daddy was walking into the clubhouse one day, and tripped over a
>>>cork-filled bat that I had borrowed from Sammy Sosa, (purely for crowd
>>>demos) and on my way down I fell onto a syringe filled with steroids."
>>
>>Want to get some good laughs just go to the O's newsgroup. I know, this
>>guy is a fucking hero in Baltimore. I notice they have benched his ass
>>the first 3 days back. "Fighting cancer" and "I tripped over one of
>>Sammy's bats." Great stuff! I wonder how Raffy's father took this. I
>>hear just like Jason's dad he was a real Mantle fan.
>>The shit the guy took can only be injected.
>
>
> Really? I heard that it was Winstrol, which is available in pill form.
>
> Tom
You are right. It can be injected or taken orally.
smack
"halfmeasures" <will...@netscape.net> wrote:
> I wonder how Raffy's father took this. I
> hear just like Jason's dad he was a real Mantle fan.
Do you mention that because Mantle was juiced up on amphetamines?
--
Stephen Mack
"Nobody's smart enough to be wrong all the time." -Ken Wilber
Seth Jackson
wrote:
>The shit the guy took can only be injected.
Aha! You've helped me to realize that Raffy was telling the truth!
He did not take steroids intentionally. He thought he was injecting
HGH, but the syringes got mixed up.
Ruben Safir
> Gee Rubie. Hate is a very strong word. It's not baseball fans as a
> whole, just Baltimore Baseball fans. It's more intense pity, coupled
> with amusement.
Nah - it is more like the baseless hatred that Yankee Fans generate for
others ***all others***. They seem to think they can disguise such
disgusting behavior behind fandom, claiming everyone team has fans that
jostle in good spirits. But with Yankee fans, its not good spirited. Its
just ugly.
Ruben
halfmeasures
Now Rubie, You don't need to be mean. I find George Steinbrenner to be
a contemptuous human being myself. The best years of this franchise
during his tenure were those when he was suspended for consorting with
Howie Spira.
I find him terrible for the Yankees and baseball and won't shed a tear
when he finally relinquishes control of the team.
I root for the Yankees because I have since 1958.
How long have you rooted for that pitiable franchise called the
Baltimore O's. You must admit though Angelos is an asshole he's nowhere
near the meglomaniac George is.
mrbrklyn
be
a contemptuous human being myself. >>
Lets just all hope that even more Yankee Fans jump from the upper deck
halfmeasures
smack wrote:
> In article <1124006800.8...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "halfmeasures" <will...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > I wonder how Raffy's father took this. I
> > hear just like Jason's dad he was a real Mantle fan.
>
> Do you mention that because Mantle was juiced up on amphetamines?
>
considerably on Mickey Mantle.
This isn't something some lying editor for the Baltimore Sun or The New
American wrote is it? My God the slander they printed about Maris
during '61 was so bush. The again,.. what can we expect? Baltimore =
Bush league. Goes hand in hand.
I recall the lowlife O's fans cheering as Mantle was carried from the
fieled on a stretcher with a broken foot, June 5, 1963. Most fans would
have had the common decency to be in silence... but then again, it was
Baltimore.
So, if you are an O's fan it would be expected that you would print
this garbage about a dead man. After all... you've never had a player
of his caliber or even close to it, and you still cling to the memory
of a guy who played a lot of games. Not very well but he did play.
Speaking of Cal, don't steroids help heel injuries quickly?
Seth Jackson
wrote:
>My God the slander they printed about Maris
>during '61 was so bush.
Not to be picky, but if they printed it, it would be libel, not
slander.
Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
"Ruben Safir" <ru...@flatbush.mrbrklyn.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.08.15....@flatbush.mrbrklyn.com...
What in the hell are you babbling about? You think that Yankee fans hate all
fans of all other baseball teams? From where did you get such an idiotic
notion? The same place you got the idea that Jose Reyes was a better
defensive shortstop than Derek Jeter? (He is trailing Jeter in Fielding
Percentage, Range Factor, and Zone Rating this season, FYI).
halfmeasures
Okay, if you say so. Actually a Baltimore sports editor made up some
mythical fans and groundkeepers he claimed he had interviewed
concerning Maris. Made Roger sound like he was a real prick. All sorts
of stories about how he wouldn't sign autographs, was rude, etc. I know
that to be untrue as I got his autograph after a game in '63.
Of course he couldn't name names.
Years later he recanted admitting he'd made all the shit up. Slander,
libel, who cares, it was bush league Baltimore at it's best.
Oh yeah, right, you're the law student or something.
You're correct, it WAS picky.
ibm...@yahoo.com
***really*** are the scum of the earth, rooting for a team owned by a
convicted criminal, one of the ugliest human beings to ever walk the
earth. "
wow, that's strong words.
1.The reason you hate Yanks so mauch is because they won too much?
2. 'owned by a convicted criminal?' wtf are you talking about? George
spent his OWN money to build a team, he playes by the rule. And he's
NOT the richest baseball owner.
If Bill Gates wants to spend $2billions to play MLB, what can you do
about that?
3. Tell me why that cheater was cheered by some bal fans? why?!
geez.....
Seth Jackson
wrote:
Just trying to help. Isn't it nice to know the correct meaning of
words?
slander n [ME sclaundre, slaundre, fr. OF esclandre, fr. LL scandalum
stumbling block, offense] : a false report maliciously uttered and
tending to injure the reputation of a person slanderous adj
(C) 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary (C)
1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated
libel \l-bel\ n [ME, written declaration, fr. MF, fr. L libellus, dim.
of liber book] 1 : a spoken or written statement or a representation
that gives an unjustly unfavorable impression of a person or thing 2 :
the action or crime of publishing a libel libelous or libellous
\-be-les\ adj
(C) 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary (C)
1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated
Tom MacIntyre
wrote:
See the other posts on Winstrol, which reportedly was what was found
in his system.
Tom
David M. Nieporent
> "The Yankee's do suck, but not as much as their fans. Their fans
> ***really*** are the scum of the earth, rooting for a team owned by a
> convicted criminal, one of the ugliest human beings to ever walk the
> earth. "
> wow, that's strong words.
> 1.The reason you hate Yanks so mauch is because they won too much?
> 2. 'owned by a convicted criminal?' wtf are you talking about?
Well, the Yankees are owned by George Steinbrenner. George Steinbrenner was
convicted of a crime. Hence, the Yankees are owned by a convicted criminal.
QED.
--
David Marc Nieporent niep...@alumni.princeton.edu
Jumping To Conclusions: http://www.oobleck.com/tollbooth
sfb
"David M. Nieporent" <niep...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote in message
halfmeasures
You are an ass.
Jeff Lichtman
> You are an ass.
I assume you are merely trying to give an academic example of libel.
--
- Jeff Lichtman
Author, Baseball for Rookies
http://baseball-for-rookies.com/
Seth Jackson
wrote:
For trying to help? Nice guy.
halfmeasures
Actually, no. Under the definition of libel the staement has to
unjustly unfavorable.
Mr. PHP
He may have been pardoned, but he was still convicted.
That does, indeed, make him a convicted criminal.
Have a nice day.
MissSouth
year he won't be tested, which is his plan -- only Raffy among the
power superstars will feel the fans' wrath for steroid use. Unless you
count Giambi, but his career was already on the skids when he "fell
ill" in 2004. (Although judging from his recent HR spurt, it looks as
tho Jason might have been slipped some roids.)
But bloated "home run stars" such as McGuire, Sammy, Luis Gonzalez,
Brady Anderson, Adrian Beltre, Brett Boone, Steve Findley, and others
whose surprising tater figures bespeak probable use of banned
substances, will never suffer approbrium because they've not been
"caught." And since doubtless all of 'em, save the retired McGuire and
Anderson, quit using before the 2005 season began, most of 'em will
probably gain Hall of Fame election. But Raffy is among the few of
them who never hulked up his appearance! If he's denied Hall entry,
the rest should also be excluded. This tale is sad in more ways than
one.
=================================
> I'm confused, did Palmeiro get busted for steriods or just return after
> beating cancer? I can't tell from reading this article.
>
> And Isn't he still using the "I accidentally took steriods" story like Barry
> Bonds? These guys are setting awesome examples for their kids, not to
> mention everyone elses.
>
> "See son, daddy was walking into the clubhouse one day, and tripped over a
> cork-filled bat that I had borrowed from Sammy Sosa, (purely for crowd
> demos) and on my way down I fell onto a syringe filled with steroids."
>
>
>
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050813/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_palmeiro_orioles
> By DAVID GINSBURG, AP Sports Writer Sat Aug 13, 6:12 PM ET
>
> BALTIMORE - Rafael Palmeiro's life changed forever when he received a 10-day
> suspension for using steroids. He can only hope his positive drug test
> doesn't have the same effect on his two boys.
>
> Palmeiro said Saturday that his return has been made easier by the support
> he's received from his teammates and his sons, Patrick, 15, and Preston, 10.
> Both boys were with their father in the Baltimore clubhouse for much of the
> summer, and joined him in Seattle last month when he got his 3,000th hit.
>
> They were noticeably absent when Palmeiro returned from his suspension
> Thursday.
>
> "The first couple of days I didn't want to bring them back, but they wanted
> to come. They feel like they are part of this team," Palmeiro said. "The
> guys really like for them to be around."
>
> So does Palmeiro.
>
> "They took it in stride. They were very supportive. They tell me they love
> me every day, which means a lot to me," he said. "Hopefully, their lives
> have not changed like mine. Hopefully, they can live a normal life and
> continue on with baseball and hopefully they can enjoy their life and not
> worry about their dad so much."
>
> Palmeiro should find out Sunday how the fans in Baltimore will react to the
> positive drug test that tarnished his reputation and raised questions about
> his candidacy for the Hall of Fame.
>
> Palmeiro was omitted from the starting lineup for a third straight game
> Saturday, but Orioles interim manager Sam Perlozzo expects to pencil him in
> as Baltimore's designated hitter on Sunday against Toronto.
>
> "We'd like to see him get in there tomorrow to DH, and if it worked out OK,
> fire him again in there Tuesday (in Oakland)," Perlozzo said Saturday
> afternoon.
>
> The Orioles planned to honor Palmeiro on Sunday for becoming the fourth
> player in baseball history to reach 3,000 hits and 500 homers, but the
> celebration was canceled at Palmeiro's request soon after his suspension was
> announced on Aug. 1.
>
> It figures to be a memorable day for Palmeiro anyway, because it will mark
> the first time he plays in front of the home fans since the suspension. No
> matter what kind of reception he receives, it will probably be worth it to
> get back into the routine of playing baseball.
>
> "I've always known to come to the ballpark and play and be in the lineup.
> I've never missed time because of injuries," Palmeiro said. "I've had days
> off, where I knew coming in that I wasn't going to play, but I've never sat
> out 10 days in a row during the season. That was totally new to me. To play
> a whole career and not know what that's like, that's unusual. Now I'm
> dealing with it as best I can."
>
> Palmeiro can expect a mixed reaction upon his return. Some fans booed when
> he went on the field Friday night as the benches cleared after Eric Hinske
> was hit by a pitch, but one fan at Saturday's game carried a sign that said,
> "RAFFY, WE FORGIVE YOU. GO O'S."
>
>
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"MissSouth" <lilh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
David M. Nieporent
> UNLESS Bonds somehow fails a drug test -- and if he doesn't play this
> year he won't be tested, which is his plan
I love people who confidently make statements about what other people are
thinking -- in other words, about things they can't possibly know anything
about. Especially when those statements are based on false premises; this
statement is of course wrong.
Barry Bonds, as a player on a 40-man roster, is tested this year.
Whether he plays is irrelevant. Only retiring would allow him to escape
testing.
> -- only Raffy among the
> power superstars will feel the fans' wrath for steroid use. Unless you
> count Giambi, but his career was already on the skids when he "fell
> ill" in 2004. (Although judging from his recent HR spurt, it looks as
> tho Jason might have been slipped some roids.)
Sure. Or steroids aren't needed to hit well.
> But bloated "home run stars" such as McGuire, Sammy, Luis Gonzalez,
> Brady Anderson, Adrian Beltre, Brett Boone, Steve Findley, and others
> whose surprising tater figures bespeak probable use of banned
> substances, will never suffer approbrium because they've not been
> "caught."
Yeah. Bastards. What right do they have not to be caught? After all, if
"MissSouth" thinks you used steroids because you hit a bunch of homers, you
should have the decency to fail a drug test to prove that his idiotic
notions are accurate. After all, we all know that anybody who once had a
good home run year "probably" used steroids.
> And since doubtless all of 'em, save the retired McGuire and
> Anderson, quit using before the 2005 season began, most of 'em will
> probably gain Hall of Fame election. But Raffy is among the few of
> them who never hulked up his appearance! If he's denied Hall entry,
> the rest should also be excluded. This tale is sad in more ways than
> one.
Your post is sad in more ways than one. You do understand that you have not
the slightest evidence that most of the players you named ever used
steroids, right?
Ray
MissSouth wrote:
>
> But bloated "home run stars" such as McGuire, Sammy, Luis Gonzalez,
> Brady Anderson, Adrian Beltre, Brett Boone, Steve Findley, and others
> whose surprising tater figures bespeak probable use of banned
> substances, will never suffer approbrium because they've not been
> "caught." And since doubtless all of 'em, save the retired McGuire and
> Anderson, quit using before the 2005 season began, most of 'em will
> probably gain Hall of Fame election. But Raffy is among the few of
> them who never hulked up his appearance!
Besides the other idiocy in your post, Luis Gonzalez is "bloated" and
"hulked up"? Steve Finley is?
--Ray
Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
> UNLESS Bonds somehow fails a drug test -- and if he doesn't play this
> year he won't be tested, which is his plan -- only Raffy among the
> power superstars will feel the fans' wrath for steroid use. Unless you
> count Giambi, but his career was already on the skids when he "fell
> ill" in 2004. (Although judging from his recent HR spurt, it looks as
> tho Jason might have been slipped some roids.)
Yeah, because he would certainly start taking them again 1) after his
illnesses; 2) when he's under heightened scrutiny due to his prior
confession in front of Congress.
Realto Margarino
[lengthy top-posting deleted, unread]
Tom MacIntyre
>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:43:58 -0400, "David M. Nieporent"
><niep...@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
>
>>> But bloated "home run stars" such as McGuire, Sammy, Luis Gonzalez,
>>> Brady Anderson, Adrian Beltre, Brett Boone, Steve Findley, and others
>>> whose surprising tater figures bespeak probable use of banned
>>> substances, will never suffer approbrium because they've not been
>>> "caught."
>
>[..]
>
>>Your post is sad in more ways than one. You do understand that you have not
>>the slightest evidence that most of the players you named ever used
>>steroids, right?
>
>Well, I bet McGuire and Findley did. I don't know who they are, but I
>bet they did.
>
>-Jason
I heard that Ripkin did also...
Tom
Tom MacIntyre
wrote:
>In rec.sport.baseball MissSouth <lilh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>[lengthy top-posting deleted, unread]
Too bad...I think you and she have some common ground.
Tom
David J. Grabiner
> MissSouth wrote:
>
> > UNLESS Bonds somehow fails a drug test -- and if he doesn't play this
> > year he won't be tested, which is his plan
>
> I love people who confidently make statements about what other people
> are thinking -- in other words, about things they can't possibly know
> anything about. Especially when those statements are based on false
> premises; this statement is of course wrong.
>
> Barry Bonds, as a player on a 40-man roster, is tested this year.
>
> Whether he plays is irrelevant. Only retiring would allow him to escape
> testing.
And this makes sense. He is still under contract, and is being paid
under that contract. If he were caught using steroids, he would be
suspended without pay.
--
David Grabiner, grab...@alumni.princeton.edu, http://remarque.org/~grabiner
Baseball labor negotiations FAQ: http://remarque.org/~grabiner/laborfaq.html
Shop at the Mobius Strip Mall: Always on the same side of the street!
Klein Glassworks, Torus Coffee and Donuts, Projective Airlines, etc.
Realto Margarino
> "David M. Nieporent" <niep...@alumni.princeton.edu> writes:
> > MissSouth wrote:
> >
> > > UNLESS Bonds somehow fails a drug test -- and if he doesn't play this
> > > year he won't be tested, which is his plan
> >
> > Barry Bonds, as a player on a 40-man roster, is tested this
> > year.
> >
> > Whether he plays is irrelevant. Only retiring would allow him
> > to escape testing.
> And this makes sense. He is still under contract, and is being
> paid under that contract. If he were caught using steroids, he
> would be suspended without pay.
He can't be suspended for playing while using steroids since he has
not played.
cordially, as always,
rm
Tanner
Tom MacIntyre wrote:
Michael Jordon went back to basketball because of baseball's steroid
testing, you know.
David Hageman
>
>
> Michael Jordon went back to basketball because of baseball's steroid
> testing, you know.
Yeah, that *and* because he couldn't hit worth a crap.
David H.
Erasmus "The Mannequin" Brown
"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__ma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gbp9g19676jjlcibn...@4ax.com...
What about Giambee and Bondz?
Tom MacIntyre
wrote:
>halfmeasures wrote:
>> You are an ass.
>
>I assume you are merely trying to give an academic example of libel.
:-)
Ironic...it's also interesting that libel also covers the slander
territory somewhay, and the word liable could really be worked into
this thread. :-)
Tom