digging a hole..again

[ScottW]

5 back after 10 games.

What is with the Pads that year after year they dig themselves a hole
in a single month they will never recover from.

I know it's a long season and with CH out their missing their best
stick but this is ridiculous.

Same crap...lack of clutch hitting...no power....and pitching just not
quite good enough (or just plain awful).

And moving the fences in might be good for visiting fans who want to
see the balls fly out....but reality is that the Pads will never hit
as many homers as their competition. You could put the fences on the
edge of the in field grass and the Pads still wouldn't equal their
rivals in HR.

Now a better equalizer (and sending the rest of the big buck big bat
clubs a big FU would have been to move 'em back to the point no one
could hit a HR. That might actually help the punchless Pads.

ScottW

[Tweekgeek]

I like that idea, SW!! Move em out as far as possible!!!

--
TWEEK

[brian]

It's all about money. For the weak team not enough, and as for the
fences it's to add excitement and butts in the seats. Everything is
about money, the business of sports.

The errors are another issue...............

Nick has been amazing so far and the new guy at second (Jerko sp)
looks promising. Our outfield is just average and so far short is
weak.

A low budget opperation.............

[ScottW]

Still, ESPN has this roster earning over 66M, a significant increase
from recent years yet that leaves them 26th of 30 teams and looking as
bad or worse than last year.
and WTF has Carlos Quentin done to become the top paid Padre?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/salaries/_/name/sd/san-diego-padres

I guess it will take a couple years for new ownership/management to at
least restore some sanity...as if there ever was some.

I'm kind of pissed that Pads have pushed the Clippers off FSSD.

ScottW

[brian]

He was their best hope (Quentin) until Hedley started crushing the
ball last year. My biggest disappointment has been Maybin. He just
looks so out of it when batting.

Still they are staying close enough to make most games winnable. They
are still putting out the effort, perhaps too much in some cases. I
thing Buddy is the source of keeping their heads in the game. We
didn't expect that they would win the division and this start has been
against good teams so it is kind of to be expected. Still.............

[ScottW]

So "hope" puts in the number 1 wage earner position on this team?
What's that say about all those sub 1M$ guys? Hopeless :)

> My biggest disappointment has been Maybin. He just
> looks so out of it when batting.

They seem to have at least one (or more) guys who go into near career
ending
funks every year. Hundley last year, now Maybin who hasn't ever
really been a terror with a stick.

>
> Still they are staying close enough to make most games winnable. They
> are still putting out the effort, perhaps too much in some cases.

That's sad. I could get out there and try hard.
I had a boss once who said we don't get paid for effort, we get paid
for results.

> I
> thing Buddy is the source of keeping their heads in the game. We
> didn't expect that they would win the division and this start has been
> against good teams so it is kind of to be expected.

I think Buddy is a great "minor league" coach keeping youngsters
confidence and effort levels high. But that's more about player
development than winning.

In the big leagues where expectations are higher he appears long on
tolerance and short on solutions. Not as if this roster has many
options but last year they pissed away the season before bringing up
the guys who at least appeared able to compete in the second half.
Is some of that Buddy's fault or is it the same 'ol Pads more worried
about options than wins?

Saw the shortened fence really bit 'em in game 3 against the Rockies.
Brilliant move that fence.

ScottW

[brian]

We're talking the Pad's here.

>> My biggest disappointment has been Maybin. He just
>> looks so out of it when batting.
>
>They seem to have at least one (or more) guys who go into near career
>ending
>funks every year. Hundley last year, now Maybin who hasn't ever
>really been a terror with a stick.
>>
>> Still they are staying close enough to make most games winnable. They
>> are still putting out the effort, perhaps too much in some cases.
>
> That's sad. I could get out there and try hard.
>I had a boss once who said we don't get paid for effort, we get paid
>for results.

They are playing teams, so far, with players, especially hitters that
are better than they are. So I'll cut them some slack. Tonight they
played well again but with good results. May be this will be the
start........

I
>> thing Buddy is the source of keeping their heads in the game. We
>> didn't expect that they would win the division and this start has been
>> against good teams so it is kind of to be expected.
>
> I think Buddy is a great "minor league" coach keeping youngsters
>confidence and effort levels high. But that's more about player
>development than winning.
>
>In the big leagues where expectations are higher he appears long on
>tolerance and short on solutions. Not as if this roster has many
>options but last year they pissed away the season before bringing up
>the guys who at least appeared able to compete in the second half.
>Is some of that Buddy's fault or is it the same 'ol Pads more worried
>about options than wins?

Hard to tell from my living room what their strategy is with player
development. They do have some talent now in the big's and what seems
like some real talented minor league players just waiting for a bit
more maturity. I think the future looks good for a change, though I
doubt that will satisfy you so much ;-) As for Buddy, he has never had
any other type of team here, so I just don't know.

>Saw the shortened fence really bit 'em in game 3 against the Rockies.
>Brilliant move that fence.

Yea, I hope the excitement that they hope is added will be worth the
cost, perhaps our pitching will keep the ball in play.

Hey Maybin looked better tonight.

[ScottW]

On Apr 15, 10:59 pm, brian <bfunk...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:26:28 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>

> Hard to tell from my living room what their strategy is with player
> development. They do have some talent now in the big's and what seems
> like some real talented minor league players just waiting for a bit
> more maturity.

This team will never compete for more than the occasional division
title (during a down year) if they don't sign some of that developped
talent after arb eligibility.

> I think the future looks good for a change, though I
> doubt that will satisfy you so much ;-)

It's always been loading up with prospects but never all stars.

> As for Buddy, he has never had
> any other type of team here, so I just don't know.
>
> >Saw the shortened fence really bit 'em in game 3 against the Rockies.
> >Brilliant move that fence.
>
> Yea, I hope the excitement that they hope is added will be worth the
> cost, perhaps our pitching will keep the ball in play.
>
> Hey Maybin looked better tonight.

No place to go but up for him at the plate.

Lets see if they can get a streak going...or at least take a series.

ScottW

[brian]

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:09:40 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
<Scot...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Apr 15, 10:59�pm, brian <bfunk...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:26:28 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>>
>> Hard to tell from my living room what their strategy is with player
>> development. They do have some talent now in the big's and what seems
>> like some real talented minor league players just waiting for a bit
>> more maturity.
>
> This team will never compete for more than the occasional division
>title (during a down year) if they don't sign some of that developped
>talent after arb eligibility.

This is what I hate about baseball, unlike football's efforts for
parity, baseball is aimed at keeping the status quo. Those rich, big
market teams, rule the world. They limit their fan base because so
many markets leave their fans with no hope. For years and decades.

>> I think the future looks good for a change, though I
>> doubt that will satisfy you so much ;-)
>
> It's always been loading up with prospects but never all stars.

Again, it is always about the money that stars cost our small market
owners. They just can't compete. I can't see a solution for us unless
the fans are willing to walk away from all the small market teams
leaving the big boy's to play only among themselves. Revolution!

Perhaps the smalls should start another parity league? Right now
baseball is a fixed game.

>> As for Buddy, he has never had
>> any other type of team here, so I just don't know.
>>
>> >Saw the shortened fence really bit 'em in game 3 against the Rockies.
>> >Brilliant move that fence.
>>
>> Yea, I hope the excitement that they hope is added will be worth the
>> cost, perhaps our pitching will keep the ball in play.
>>
>> Hey Maybin looked better tonight.
>
>No place to go but up for him at the plate.
>
>Lets see if they can get a streak going...or at least take a series.

I am alone most nights and so I watch. From here, as long as the team
doesn't quit on Buddy, I am entertained, it's all I've got. So yea, go
Pad's!

[ScottW]

On Apr 16, 10:45 am, brian <bfunk...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:09:40 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>

> <Scott...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 15, 10:59 pm, brian <bfunk...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:26:28 -0700 (PDT), ScottW
>
> >> Hard to tell from my living room what their strategy is with player
> >> development. They do have some talent now in the big's and what seems
> >> like some real talented minor league players just waiting for a bit
> >> more maturity.
>
> > This team will never compete for more than the occasional division
> >title (during a down year) if they don't sign some of that developped
> >talent after arb eligibility.
>
> This is what I hate about baseball, unlike football's efforts for
> parity, baseball is aimed at keeping the status quo. Those rich, big
> market teams, rule the world. They limit their fan base because so
> many markets leave their fans with no hope. For years and decades.

My sentiments exactly. I haven't bought a ticket in years and have
turned down more freebies than I've accepted.

>
> >> I think the future looks good for a change, though I
> >> doubt that will satisfy you so much ;-)
>
> > It's always been loading up with prospects but never all stars.
>
> Again, it is always about the money that stars cost our small market
> owners. They just can't compete. I can't see a solution for us

The solution is a mega rich saudi prince to buy the team.
These consortium owners who consider baseball a business
and expect a ROI is the problem.

> unless
> the fans are willing to walk away from all the small market teams
> leaving the big boy's to play only among themselves. Revolution!
>
> Perhaps the smalls should start another parity league? Right now
> baseball is a fixed game.

Definitely, It's way past time for baseballs BS anti-trust exemption
to go.
A new league with revenue sharing and reasonable salary cap rules
could
quickly compete with the BS we have now.

Look at Atlanta's attendance. It's even boring for the perrenial
winners.

>
> >> As for Buddy, he has never had
> >> any other type of team here, so I just don't know.
>
> >> >Saw the shortened fence really bit 'em in game 3 against the Rockies.
> >> >Brilliant move that fence.
>
> >> Yea, I hope the excitement that they hope is added will be worth the
> >> cost, perhaps our pitching will keep the ball in play.
>
> >> Hey Maybin looked better tonight.
>
> >No place to go but up for him at the plate.
>
> >Lets see if they can get a streak going...or at least take a series.
>
> I am alone most nights and so I watch. From here, as long as the team
> doesn't quit on Buddy, I am entertained, it's all I've got. So yea, go
> Pad's!

They're too young to quit...do that and they'll be done in baseball.
Not like being a Padre isn't closer to being out of the league than
in the hall of fame.

I won't be forced to watch until the NBA playoffs are over but
watching Quentin bust a dodger collarbone was definitely worth a
replay :)

ScottW