Wow. McClouth gone
@blah.com Brian Allen
Matt Davis
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Anothe crappy Nutting trade. We give it all up and get Nutting!
Brother Freebyrd
"Brian Allen" <blah @blah.com> wrote in message
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Yea, heard it last night. Doesn't surprise me.
� Jeem �
Agreed, but none the less stupid, to say the least. He was about our
only decent player. If the Bucs could have held onto Bay, McClouth,
and Nady, they'd have a pretty good outfield. I'm not going to take
the time to research it, but I do not understand why they could not
wait until they got much closer to the trading deadline.
Wick
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:28:34 -0400, "Brother Freebyrd"
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> >Yea, heard it last night. Doesn't surprise me.
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> Agreed, but none the less stupid, to say the least. He was about our
> only decent player. If the Bucs could have held onto Bay, McClouth,
> and Nady, they'd have a pretty good outfield. I'm not going to take
> the time to research it, but I do not understand why they could not
> wait until they got much closer to the trading deadline.
Dream on. There is no way the Pirates could have kept Bay. Given
that he was gone in any event, at least we got something more than
draft picks for him.
Look at what Nady has done (or hasn't done) this season. Signing him
to a long term deal would have been a Derek Bell/Pat Mears level
mistake.
McClouth was a nice player, but in the context of the entire league,
he wasn't anything that special.
While I would have preferred moving McClouth to right and benching
Moss, the drop off from McClouth to McCutcheon won't be that much.
We'll lose some power, but gain some defense.
� Jeem �
wrote:
Oh I know it is only a dream to have kept those guys in the outfield.
I was only saying if the Bucs could have done it. But with the
Nothings as ownership, the Bucs won't be keeping anyone who has any
potential. After Tampa Bay changed ownership and GM, things sure did
change for them. The Bucs will be nothing but losers until a new
ownership who is committed to winning arrives. Hell, I'd settle for
.500 this season, which to this point seems obtainable.
Stalker
> Oh I know it is only a dream to have kept those guys in the outfield.
> I was only saying if the Bucs could have done it. But with the
> Nothings as ownership, the Bucs won't be keeping anyone who has any
> potential. After Tampa Bay changed ownership and GM, things sure did
> change for them. The Bucs will be nothing but losers until a new
> ownership who is committed to winning arrives. Hell, I'd settle for
> .500 this season, which to this point seems obtainable.
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This is why I stopped following baseball.
Does it really take more than 15 years to "rebuild"?
The contradiction of logic puzzles me.
(Stolen from Pirates website comments):
"If Bay and McClouth aren't good enough to be Pirates what are they looking
for?"
� Jeem �
Rebuild? The term is being used very loosely by the ownership. Rebuild
equates to just putting a team on the field in the eyes of the
ownership. The Bucs could lose 120 games and the Nothings would not
even blink an eye. The Bucs need to clean house as far as the
ownership and front office just like they did in the mid 80s before
Leyland was hired.
Razor
Agreed. I was a big Pirates fan from the late 70s into the early 90s.
Since then, I've watched "from afar" as they've consistently moved out
good players for "prospects". I thought the whole purpose of a prospect
was to eventually develop into a good player. Doesn't make sense to me,
and the facts speak for themselves...it hasn't worked for 15 years.
I can only conclude that management wants to field the cheapest team
possible, not the best.
Matt Davis
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BINGO! We have a winner. As long as Nutting owns the team they will be
LOSERS!