Another view of the trade.
David Short
knowledge talks about the future of Austin Kearns and Felipe Lopez and why
the reds were willing to deal them.
I think you have to register and login to view the thread. I thought about
quoting it, but it's a good read. "Team Clark" sees things from a
perspective I can only imagine.
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48584
dfs
Chris
Interesting article. Do you know what Team Clark does? Is he a
journalist or talent scout?
Cletis Perkins
Here is fuck what they fuck should of did, they fuck should of kept
Kearns, Got rid of fuck griffey, fuck got rid of Phillips and fuck get
rid of that 3rd base nigger that fucks up all the time too. fuck they
need to fuck get a white only team out there then they fuck will fuck
win.
Cletis.
David Short
> David Short wrote:
>> Pointer to a Redszone thread in which someone with some serious baseball
>> knowledge talks about the future of Austin Kearns and Felipe Lopez and
>> why
>> the reds were willing to deal them.
>>
>> I think you have to register and login to view the thread. I thought
>> about
>> quoting it, but it's a good read. "Team Clark" sees things from a
>> perspective I can only imagine.
>>
>> http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48584
>
> journalist or talent scout?
Several pages into the article his career path is detailed.
Sounds/Looks like he's working as a scout for the D-Rays, right now.
dfs
David Short
"David Short" <David.n...@Wright.spam.Edu.please> wrote in message
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as a matter of fact.....
Page 5 Post #98 should help you with your question.
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JustTom
I leasurely sauntered over and got hit w/the registration thing, but
decide to poke around a bit before proceeding, and got snagged by the
"take a deep breath" thread and started reading about the "caste"
concept there, and it kinda weirded me out.
David Short
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:19:04 -0400, "David Short"
>
>>knowledge talks about the future of Austin Kearns and Felipe Lopez and why
>>the reds were willing to deal them.
>>
>>I think you have to register and login to view the thread. I thought about
>>quoting it, but it's a good read. "Team Clark" sees things from a
>>perspective I can only imagine.
>>
>>http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48584
>
> I leasurely sauntered over and got hit w/the registration thing, but
> decide to poke around a bit before proceeding, and got snagged by the
> "take a deep breath" thread and started reading about the "caste"
> concept there, and it kinda weirded me out.
I agree that it's kind of a wied concept.
dfs
JustTom
Old saw Immediately popped into my head about "wouldn't want to
belong to any club that would have me", but then I kept reading and
realized they likely wouldn't welcome me anyway, so I passed.
From the context of your note, I take it that the dude reasoned out a
theory that would explain the thinking behind the obvious
lopsidedness....
Did he agree or disagree with their thinking?
David Short
>>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:19:04 -0400, "David Short"
>>>
>>>>Pointer to a Redszone thread in which someone with some serious baseball
on Redszone who seems to know his stuff.
> From the context of your note, I take it that the dude reasoned out a
> theory that would explain the thinking behind the obvious
> lopsidedness....
>
> Did he agree or disagree with their thinking?
Since I have 4 hours before my flight leaves I figure I would post what I
know about the Trade and fill in the blanks with what I am almost certain.
Kearns wore out his welcome. Likeable guy but not accountable. He has not,
and probably will not, reach his big league potential. Sure O'Brien dogged
him last year. With good reason. He missed extra hitting sessions
(Philadelphia, NY), his shoulder rehab could have gone a lot better and his
extra poundage was costing him. Not the way you want to please the Manager
or FO.
Austin has a hitch in his swing that you could shove Adam Dunn through.
Fortunately for him he has great hand speed and enough strength to make it
work, most of the time. In baseball you hit the bottom half of the ball by
staying strong THROUGH the ball. Austin hit the top half of the ball while
dipping like a softballer. Austin was to 3B what Casey is to 2B. Fastball in
or down = Ground ball to 3B or SS. Hard breaking ball away = Foul ball or
pop up to 1B. Like I was saying, great fortune and hand speed allowed him to
get ahead of enough balls to get some quality hits. What was impressive was
the OPPO Home runs. To shear a fastball away out of the park they way he did
requires some serious skill. Unfortunately that becomes a crutch for a
player.
BEYOND the mechanical issues is the fact that he WOULD NOT correct any part
of his swing. And I mean NEVER EVER. The swing he came to the bigs with was
nearly flawless. (Shades of Molitor) His swing last year told the whole
story. Put on some weight, lost some hand speed and there you have a
.215-.220 swing. Now Chambliss will not have the stress of having to fight
with him.
In retrospect Casey was the same way. "I'm hitting (*avg) so why would I
work on this"? Heard it myself from them both in years passed. Great guys.
But they just wanted to stay with what they had. Casey had a little more
lead on that leash as he did a great job pounding breaking balls. Little
easier since he as a LH hitter.
I could go on about Austin's lack of closing speed in the OF this season,
how he can not get to balls to his right and the fact that only 1 out of 5
throws are on line or make it to the bag. But then I will get accused of
picking on Austin when in fact I am just putting the facts out there. I know
the real story, I have the facts and I'm not some Fantasy baseball guy that
thinks the Mets will give us Pedro for Freel and Claussen.
I know for an absolute fact that he was running out of support in the
Clubhouse. A lot of guys "LIKE" Austin but did not feel that he was
committed to this game. I agree and made mention of this last season and was
blasted on this board for telling the truth. I saw Austin in Louisville
twice this off season and looked him in the eye to tell him what I thought
and what I heard. No screaming, no carrying on. You have to remember I spent
A LOT of time with these guys for almost 3 years. I told him he should be
starting in RF in every AS game from 2006 on... he liked hearing that but
did not want to follow the rest of the conversation about accountability.
Austin is like a Ferrari Enzo that has water damage to the interior.
Everybody walks up to it and goes "WOW, man that car is AWESOME", "I'd give
my right arm for that car". True it is beautiful, it runs fast, smooth gets
a lot of looks but you are only seeing it from the outside. Then you tell
someone you want to trade it for two nice Cadillacs. "Oh Man, you're
crazy!!! You're an idiot" Who's the idiot that wants to drive a Ferrari that
stinks like swamp water? Jim Bowden?
The Braves were interested in Kearns. They took him off their board after
doing some due diligence. What does that tell you?
Felipe Lopez. A real shame to see him go. This is a guy who works hard at
the game. He takes this game seriously. Unfortunately he has a very
difficult time becoming consistent. When the trade for Castro was made it
was mainly doen to HELP Lopez. It did. I have several game notes and have
asked for others on Lopez before and after the trade. I also had a few Tivo
games that I watched just to see if the notes were dead on. They were. Prior
to Castro coming over Lopez had SIGNIFICANT trouble with is footwork, glove
postioning and throwing angle. Watch some old footage of him. Routine
groundball comes right to him he would STOP, separate and then get his feet
going. No can do. In order to make a quick throw he would get caught with
his feet together and end up with a high throw OR a taling throw. Something
Reds fans have seen far too much of. It's not like Bucky Dent was not
working with him. Feverish would be the word that comes to mind. For
whatever reason, they just could not get on the same page. No one to blame,
it just happens sometimes. Unfortunately it happened to the SS. Castro comes
aboard. Castro, Lopez and Dent spend HOURS working together and whhaaalah.
Lopez is now settling through the ball, footwork is timed and MOST IMPORTANT
he is throwing over the top and right on the bag. Not to say he didn't make
an error or is never going to make one again. He's just more consistent and
has a better base to work with. His biggest fielding problem still remains
the ball over the mound coming across the middle. He'll get it.
Hitting wise... He has the stick. His stroke is there. If you gave Kearns
Lopez's stroke, Kearns would be hitting .330. Lopez approach seems to be
killing him. He consistently hit in the hole and the best pitches had
already gone by. Even Gwynn and Boggs would have trouble hitting that way.
It's ok to hit that good fastball early in the count.
I'm really proud of Krivsky. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing. I have read
a lot of comments on this board that are mind numbing. Not that I do not
understand that fans have a right to voice their opinions. I'm exercising
mine now. What I do not get is this "promise of tomorrow" stuff. I was
reading and article about Kearns today that really just skipped over all the
facts. They showed numbers with him averaging out at 600 AB's? Are you
kidding me? He hasn't even made it to 120 games OR 400 AB's in a season.
That's not a fluke. That is a fact. His best season was his first season and
he has not made ANY adjustments since! Austin Kearns is not a superstar! If
he's your favorite player that's perfectly fine. Mine growing up was Tracy
Jones (I know, I Know... I was 11 years old) If you pinned your dreams and
hopes onto the back of his uniform, folks you pinned them onto the wrong
guy. I drank some of the same Kool Aid until I got to know Austin. I got to
see how he went about his business and perfected his craft. You need to find
another object of affection.
BTW, playing the game the "Right Way" wins games Championships! Ask the
87-92 A's or the 70-78 Reds. ALL of those teams played Championship caliber
baseball. Any ONE of those guys will tell you they themselves would be good
individaully but possibly not GREAT unless they had the type of teammates
they had around them. The A's more so than the Reds. The A's got more out of
less talent where as the Reds meshed great talent to become a true Dynasty.
The "right way" is hitting the ball the other way with a man on first,
stealing bases, working counts, knowing EXACTLY what to do with the baseball
in all situations, etc... When your team is losing you pick each other up
and hold someone including yourself accountable. I could probably go on
until midnight about playing baseball the right way. Fewer and fewer
ballplayers do what is necessary to win. They leave it to chance. Krivsky
isn't leaving this season to chance. He's doing things the right way.
Krivksy is one of the best evaluators in the game. Hands down. I wish I had
a fifth of his talent. In Wayne you should trust.
Cletis Perkins
Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and
watermelon. You should therefore give it none of
these things because its lazy ass almost
certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it
on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your
nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it
finds in the fields, other niggers, etc.
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push
watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger
cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only
if all niggers have worked well and nothing has
been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch
Plantation reports that this last one is a
killer, since all niggers steal something almost
every single day of their lives. He reports he
doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon
for his niggers as a result. You should never
allow your nigger meal breaks while at work,
since if it stops work for more than ten minutes
it will need to be retrained. You would be
surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to
pick cotton. You really would.
Coffee beans?
Don't ask.
You have no idea.
Cletis Perkins
Michael A. Oberly
<David.N...@Wright.SPAM.Edu.PLEASE> wrote:
<big snip>
>Krivksy is one of the best evaluators in the game. Hands down. I wish I had
>a fifth of his talent. In Wayne you should trust.
>
Thaks for posting this, David. It's interesting, at the least.