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sdrahcir

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Dec 11, 2009, 7:18:15 PM12/11/09
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Does this mean Jenks is gone?

mercutio

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Dec 12, 2009, 7:48:28 PM12/12/09
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On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:18:15 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
<white...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Does this mean Jenks is gone?

I would think probably not. Putz had elbow surgery last year in June
and before that he was 1-5 with a 5.22 ERA. 2 saves 10 holds . Not
exactly awe inspiring. His career stats are quite good (3.24 ERA and
1+ strike outs per inning)
Putz is in Chicago to prove he isn't damaged goods. We got him cheap
(3M + incentives for 1 year). I think the Sox are hoping that he is
motivated ( and he should be to prove that he is healed and he is in
a contract year. If he can put up good numbers a huge payday looms on
the horizon for him) and will solidify the short and long relief

The Sox claim is he is 100% and ready to go and passed the physical
with flying colors. As a caveat, remember they said the same ting
about Contreras about this time last year
We'll see . I worry about pitchers ( especially power pitchers) 1 year
out from elbow surgery ( Actually less than a year at this point)

Jim

sdrahcir

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Dec 13, 2009, 11:07:52 AM12/13/09
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On Dec 12, 6:48 pm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:18:15 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>

If he's healthy, Putz can easily fill Dotel's spot. You're right about
hard throwers coming off elbow surgery--hold your breath.

Alfred

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:11:35 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 12, 4:48 pm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:18:15 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>


This sounds like another high priced gamble - like that puke
Linebrink.
In addition to my bewilderments, the W.S. have released Carrasco.

mercutio

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Dec 13, 2009, 5:54:04 PM12/13/09
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:11:35 -0800 (PST), Alfred
<behyndb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 12, 4:48ÔøΩpm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:18:15 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>>
>> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Does this mean Jenks is gone?
>>
>> I would think probably not. Putz had elbow surgery last year in June
>> and before that he was 1-5 with a 5.22 ERA. 2 saves 10 holds . Not

>> exactly awe inspiring. His ÔøΩcareer stats are quite good (3.24 ERA and


>> 1+ strike outs per inning)
>> Putz is in Chicago to prove he isn't damaged goods. We got him cheap
>> (3M + incentives for 1 year). I think the Sox are hoping that he is

>> motivated ÔøΩ( and he should be to prove that he is healed and he is in


>> a contract year. If he can put up good numbers a huge payday looms on

>> the ÔøΩhorizon for him) ÔøΩand will solidify the short and long relief


>>
>> The Sox claim is he is 100% and ready to go and passed the physical

>> with flying colors. As ÔøΩa caveat, remember they said the same ting


>> about Contreras about this time last year
>> We'll see . I worry about pitchers ( especially power pitchers) 1 year
>> out from elbow surgery ( Actually less than a year at this point)
>>
>> Jim
>
>
>This sounds like another high priced gamble - like that puke
>Linebrink.
>In addition to my bewilderments, the W.S. have released Carrasco.

Not according to the roster on the website. There is no mention of it
in the transaction section either

Jim

Alfred

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Dec 13, 2009, 6:27:36 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 13, 2:54 pm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:11:35 -0800 (PST), Alfred
>
>
>
>
>
> <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >On Dec 12, 4:48Êpm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:18:15 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>
> >> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >Does this mean Jenks is gone?
>
> >> I would think probably not. Putz had elbow surgery last year in June
> >> and before that he was 1-5 with a 5.22 ERA. 2 saves 10 holds . Not
> >> exactly awe inspiring. His Êcareer stats are quite good (3.24 ERA and

> >> 1+ strike outs per inning)
> >> Putz is in Chicago to prove he isn't damaged goods. We got him cheap
> >> (3M + incentives for 1 year). I think the Sox are hoping that he is
> >> motivated Ê( and he should be to prove that he is healed and he is in

> >> a contract year. If he can put up good numbers a huge payday looms on
> >> the Êhorizon for him) Êand will solidify the short and long relief

>
> >> The Sox claim is he is 100% and ready to go and passed the physical
> >> with flying colors. As Êa caveat, remember they said the same ting

> >> about Contreras about this time last year
> >> We'll see . I worry about pitchers ( especially power pitchers) 1 year
> >> out from elbow surgery ( Actually less than a year at this point)
>
> >> Jim
>
> >This sounds like another high priced gamble - like that puke
> >Linebrink.
> >In addition to my bewilderments, the W.S. have released Carrasco.
>
> Not according to the roster on the website. There is no mention of it
> in the transaction section either
>
> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Just 13 hours ago.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-13-white-sox-chicago-dec13,0,3199948.story

mercutio

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:15:03 PM12/13/09
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:27:36 -0800 (PST), Alfred
<behyndb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 13, 2:54ÔøΩpm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:11:35 -0800 (PST), Alfred
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> >On Dec 12, 4:48ÔøΩpm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:18:15 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>>
>> >> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >Does this mean Jenks is gone?
>>
>> >> I would think probably not. Putz had elbow surgery last year in June
>> >> and before that he was 1-5 with a 5.22 ERA. 2 saves 10 holds . Not

>> >> exactly awe inspiring. His ÔøΩcareer stats are quite good (3.24 ERA and


>> >> 1+ strike outs per inning)
>> >> Putz is in Chicago to prove he isn't damaged goods. We got him cheap
>> >> (3M + incentives for 1 year). I think the Sox are hoping that he is

>> >> motivated ÔøΩ( and he should be to prove that he is healed and he is in


>> >> a contract year. If he can put up good numbers a huge payday looms on

>> >> the ÔøΩhorizon for him) ÔøΩand will solidify the short and long relief


>>
>> >> The Sox claim is he is 100% and ready to go and passed the physical

>> >> with flying colors. As ÔøΩa caveat, remember they said the same ting


>> >> about Contreras about this time last year
>> >> We'll see . I worry about pitchers ( especially power pitchers) 1 year
>> >> out from elbow surgery ( Actually less than a year at this point)
>>
>> >> Jim
>>
>> >This sounds like another high priced gamble - like that puke
>> >Linebrink.
>> >In addition to my bewilderments, the W.S. have released Carrasco.
>>
>> Not according to the roster on the website. There is no mention of it
>> in the transaction section either
>>
>> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Just 13 hours ago.
>http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-13-white-sox-chicago-dec13,0,3199948.story


Guess you are right. A typical KW deal. Get rid of someone who
produces and adds flexiblity and sign a power pitcher that missed the
better part of last year injured.KW is amazing.This is one that will
come back and bite him in the ass. ( as so many have)

Jim

sdrahcir

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Dec 13, 2009, 9:07:56 PM12/13/09
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On Dec 13, 7:15 pm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:27:36 -0800 (PST), Alfred
>
>
>
> <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >On Dec 13, 2:54Êpm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:11:35 -0800 (PST), Alfred
>
> >> <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Dec 12, 4:48æpm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:18:15 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>
> >> >> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >Does this mean Jenks is gone?
>
> >> >> I would think probably not. Putz had elbow surgery last year in June
> >> >> and before that he was 1-5 with a 5.22 ERA. 2 saves 10 holds . Not
> >> >> exactly awe inspiring. His æcareer stats are quite good (3.24 ERA and

> >> >> 1+ strike outs per inning)
> >> >> Putz is in Chicago to prove he isn't damaged goods. We got him cheap
> >> >> (3M + incentives for 1 year). I think the Sox are hoping that he is
> >> >> motivated æ( and he should be to prove that he is healed and he is in

> >> >> a contract year. If he can put up good numbers a huge payday looms on
> >> >> the æhorizon for him) æand will solidify the short and long relief

>
> >> >> The Sox claim is he is 100% and ready to go and passed the physical
> >> >> with flying colors. As æa caveat, remember they said the same ting

> >> >> about Contreras about this time last year
> >> >> We'll see . I worry about pitchers ( especially power pitchers) 1 year
> >> >> out from elbow surgery ( Actually less than a year at this point)
>
> >> >> Jim
>
> >> >This sounds like another high priced gamble - like that puke
> >> >Linebrink.
> >> >In addition to my bewilderments, the W.S. have released Carrasco.
>
> >> Not according to the roster on the website. There is no mention of it
> >> in the transaction section either
>
> >> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Just 13 hours ago.
> >http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-13-white-sox-chicago-dec13,0...

>
> Guess you are right. A typical KW deal. Get rid of someone who
> produces and adds flexiblity and sign a power pitcher that  missed the
> better part of last year injured.KW is amazing.This is one that will
> come back and bite him in the ass. ( as so many have)
>
> Jim

Carasco was eligible for arbitration and you know how the Sox
ownership feels about arbitration eligible players.

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