Now the Sox are interested in Napoli   A sure sign Salty may go

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I think the other acquisition means more.  Napoli can play first and was
just quoted saying he doesn't have to be a catcher.  He'd be in the mix (at
least) at first.  Just as good a chance that Lavarnway could be back in AAA.
Did you like how he hit last year?

But...yeah...I would NOT be shocked to see Salty traded.  He should have
decent trade value.

After 7 years of Gold Glove defense between Youkilis and Gonzalez,
Napoli would sure be an eye-opener.

Now the Sox are interested in Napoli   A sure sign Salty may go

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I think the other acquisition means more.  Napoli can play first and was
just quoted saying he doesn't have to be a catcher.  He'd be in the mix (at
least) at first.  Just as good a chance that Lavarnway could be back in AAA.
Did you like how he hit last year?
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no... but He'll need to make adjustments and learn.... he is a v good
hitter.... just  needs time (Lavarnway)

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I'd be much more interested in Garza.  I think Jerry Sands is a better
prospect going forward than Davis.  And the Red Sox already have HIM.

On Nov 13, 4:57 pm, "shananagin" <n...@none.nospam.this> wrote:

After 7 years of Gold Glove defense between Youkilis and Gonzalez,
Napoli would sure be an eye-opener.
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but Napoli hit tremendously at Fenway Park.... (small sample) 6-13... 3 hr
.462

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/28444/mike-napoli

On Nov 13, 4:57 pm, "shananagin" <n...@none.nospam.this> wrote:

After 7 years of Gold Glove defense between Youkilis and Gonzalez,
Napoli would sure be an eye-opener.
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but Napoli hit tremendously at Fenway Park.... (small sample) 6-13... 3 hr
.462

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/28444/mike-napoli

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Might have something to do with the pitchers right?

YEAR              NAPOLI         OTHERS
2012                 4.32                3.75
2011                 3.16                4.13
2010                 5.11                3.44
2009                 4.86                4.01

2012 stat comparision

STAT            NAPOLI           SALTALAMACCHIA
AVE              .227                   .222
SLG              .454                   .469
HR                24                      25
RBI               59                      56
K/PA             2.8                     2.9

I didn’t think it was possible for guy to strikeout more frequently
than Saltalamacchia.

Napoli’s 2012 stats are much lower than his norm, while Saltalamacchia
seem to be about what you can expect.

The biggest difference is of course the OBP.   Napoli was .343…
Saltalamacchia .288.  Career the difference is Napoli  .356 vs
Saltalamacchia .302.

Napoli will be 31 this season but he really hasn’t had a huge workload
behind the plate…just 539 games in 7 seasons....which is pretty
telling.  If you have a catcher with a career .863 OPS and you are not
willing to play him there more than 65-70 times a season there must be
a good reason.

Napoli's career numbers at Fenway are hard to ignore...(73 PA) .
306/.397/.710.1.107

Saltalamacchia will be 28 and still could be improving at the plate

Napoli’s career CS% is 24%...Saltalamacchia’s is 23%

Napoli’s career (WP+PB)/IP  is 1 every 19.7 innings…..Saltalamacchia’s
is 1 every 19.4 innings (It should be noted that Saltalmacchia did
catch Wakefield for a full season)

Note: Napoli caught Lackey 62 times (second highest total for Lackey)
and they had a very good 3.16 ERA together.

On Nov 13, 4:57 pm, "shananagin" <n...@none.nospam.this> wrote:

After 7 years of Gold Glove defense between Youkilis and Gonzalez,
Napoli would sure be an eye-opener.
=========================================================================== =====
but Napoli hit tremendously at Fenway Park.... (small sample) 6-13... 3 hr
.462

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/28444/mike-napoli

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Might have something to do with the pitchers right?
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Last year you could make an argument for that but in the link above change
the year(s) to 2010 or 2011 when the pitching was better....he likes Fenway.

On Nov 14, 6:28 am, Wayback1918 <wayback1...@verizon.net> wrote:

2012 stat comparision

STAT            NAPOLI           SALTALAMACCHIA
AVE              .227                   .222
SLG              .454                   .469
HR                24                      25
RBI               59                      56
K/PA             2.8                     2.9

I didn’t think it was possible for guy to strikeout more frequently
than Saltalamacchia.

Napoli’s 2012 stats are much lower than his norm, while Saltalamacchia
seem to be about what you can expect.

The biggest difference is of course the OBP.   Napoli was .343…
Saltalamacchia .288.  Career the difference is Napoli  .356 vs
Saltalamacchia .302.

Napoli will be 31 this season but he really hasn’t had a huge workload
behind the plate…just 539 games in 7 seasons....which is pretty
telling.  If you have a catcher with a career .863 OPS and you are not
willing to play him there more than 65-70 times a season there must be
a good reason.

Napoli's career numbers at Fenway are hard to ignore...(73 PA) .
306/.397/.710.1.107

Saltalamacchia will be 28 and still could be improving at the plate

Napoli’s career CS% is 24%...Saltalamacchia’s is 23%

Napoli’s career (WP+PB)/IP  is 1 every 19.7 innings…..Saltalamacchia’s
is 1 every 19.4 innings (It should be noted that Saltalmacchia did
catch Wakefield for a full season)

Note: Napoli caught Lackey 62 times (second highest total for Lackey)
and they had a very good 3.16 ERA together.

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Love your statistical analysis

On Nov 14, 6:28 am, Wayback1918 <wayback1...@verizon.net> wrote:

2012 stat comparision

STAT            NAPOLI           SALTALAMACCHIA
AVE              .227                   .222
SLG              .454                   .469
HR                24                      25
RBI               59                      56
K/PA             2.8                     2.9

I didn’t think it was possible for guy to strikeout more frequently
than Saltalamacchia.

Napoli’s 2012 stats are much lower than his norm, while Saltalamacchia
seem to be about what you can expect.

The biggest difference is of course the OBP.   Napoli was .343…
Saltalamacchia .288.  Career the difference is Napoli  .356 vs
Saltalamacchia .302.

Napoli will be 31 this season but he really hasn’t had a huge workload
behind the plate…just 539 games in 7 seasons....which is pretty
telling.  If you have a catcher with a career .863 OPS and you are not
willing to play him there more than 65-70 times a season there must be
a good reason.

Napoli's career numbers at Fenway are hard to ignore...(73 PA) .
306/.397/.710.1.107

Saltalamacchia will be 28 and still could be improving at the plate

Napoli’s career CS% is 24%...Saltalamacchia’s is 23%

Napoli’s career (WP+PB)/IP  is 1 every 19.7 innings…..Saltalamacchia’s
is 1 every 19.4 innings (It should be noted that Saltalmacchia did
catch Wakefield for a full season)

Note: Napoli caught Lackey 62 times (second highest total for Lackey)
and they had a very good 3.16 ERA together.

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Love your statistical analysis

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I don't like when CS% is considered as a high indicator of defensive skill.
Highly over-rated IMHO.

Example  '73' means a catcher saved his team 73 runs since 2007
        '-63' means a catcher cost his team 63 runs since 2007

This only measure the catchers runs saved/lost due to his framing
ability.

2012 final numbers are not out yet.  Below is the totals for each
player between 2007-2011.

Pitches Runs    Catcher
18788   73      Jose Molina
42186   71      Russell Martin
26306   41      Yorvit Torrealba
14205   38      Jonathan Lucroy
39184   37      Yadier Molina
17376   36      Gregg Zaun
27053   33      Miguel Montero
17023   25      Alex Avila
18016   25      Ryan Hanigan
32705   24      Geovany Soto
20065   23      Jarrod Saltalamacchia
42098   20      Brian McCann
25731   19      Jeff Mathis
14315   16      David Ross
40828   12      A.J. Pierzynski
23394   10      Chris Snyder
18991   10      Humberto Quintero
20239   10      Ronny Paulino
18685   8       Brian Schneider
30260   7       Joe Mauer
25008   6       Matt Wieters
30558   5       Ivan Rodriguez
21402   3       Kelly Shoppach
43225   2       Kurt Suzuki
18275   1       Josh Bard
30104   -2      Miguel Olivo
22864   -8      Victor Martinez
30096   -14     Bengie Molina
26858   -15     Rod Barajas
27075   -17     Jason Varitek
24980   -19     Dioner Navarro
32761   -23     Carlos Ruiz
27917   -23     Ramon Hernandez
16276   -24     Matt Treanor
23939   -24     Mike Napoli
31314   -25     John Buck
14399   -25     Koyie Hill
14285   -25     Rob Johnson
20827   -27     Nick Hundley
25308   -30     Chris Iannetta
19588   -33     Kenji Johjima
35772   -37     Jason Kendall
17942   -50     Jorge Posada
30298   -52     Gerald Laird
22861   -66     Ryan Doumit

I'm afraid there hasn't been a system yet created that shows Mike
Napoli to be a good defensive catcher.

This is heavy stat 'geek-dom stuff but here are the links if you like.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15093

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/evaluating-catchers-quantif...

On Nov 14, 12:28 pm, PW <emailaddyin...@ifIremember.com> wrote:

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ya.... very good