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DW

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:46:49 PM11/10/09
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Note there was a post here about Oprah alledgedly saying
in this economy that it was alright to only give a 10
percent tip. That is false, she never said anything to that
effect.

Gnork

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Nov 10, 2009, 3:50:09 PM11/10/09
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As if. How would you know? Do you record everything she says 24/7?

Tristan daCunha

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:23:57 PM11/10/09
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Dr. Woodward is a space cadet!

Dano

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:39:00 PM11/10/09
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Yeah...I never bought that one either. I don't particularly care for her
myself. But that was a cheap shot without attribution. I can't imagine her
being dumb enough or cold enough for that matter, to say something that
ignorant.

In fact...you should do just the opposite if you can afford it...overtip
your servers. And no...Mario did not pay me to say that. <g>


The Venerable Sarge

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:18:47 PM11/10/09
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BS - if the bill is up around a hundred in a regular ol' restaurant
( nothing special ) - they can expect 10% from me unless theyare
really paying attention. On the other hand I've tipped 50% on small
orders in a diner.

mario in victoria

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:25:16 PM11/10/09
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:-)

I'm not too concerned with gratuities, since the Banquet Dept. works on
adding 15% to ALL contracts (this is standard in the industry). On top
of that, we're fairly well paid!

But when I sub in the Dining Room during the summer, I've noticed grats
have gone down a bit, but there's always the one or two patrons who
'overtip,' so it balances out.

As to celebrities themselves, I've served half a dozen in my life. lhalf
of them 'A' list, the others minor/B list celebs. For the most part,
they're usually around 15-20%. One very well-known spiritual/self-help
guru, however, is as cheap as sin.

:-)

mario in victoria
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dodging the rain

PETER SHORTS

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:25:28 PM11/10/09
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wow, thanks for straightening that out.

Gnork

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:34:36 PM11/10/09
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Hey Mario,

I have a good friend that often flies celebrities on charters. A
certain tall, horse-faced guy fitting your job description is his
least favorite celebrity ever. Same guy?

Dano

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:30:13 PM11/10/09
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"The Venerable Sarge" <srgnt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Gee...why am I not surprised? So you stiff the ones that work the hardest
and tip a whole quarter on that cup of Joe you have. What a sport! You're
about as classy as a three fingered, banjo strummin', retarded hillbilly
troglodyte. You miserly old bastard! I hope they remember you and spit in
your soup.


DW

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:36:33 PM11/10/09
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Snopes.com

DW

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:40:34 PM11/10/09
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I would point out when the IRS audits the wait staff they assume a
15% tip no matter how much (or little) you actually leave.

Even if you leave nothing for a tip the IRS assumes
15%.

Wayback1918

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:42:41 PM11/10/09
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Oprah obviously eats at a lot of buffets. 10% is acceptable.

I haven't taken her advice as far as what I should read.....I'll
probably figure out my own gratuities too.

Dano

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:45:05 PM11/10/09
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"mario in victoria" <mari...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Celebrities ought to take care to be remembered fondly...their reputations
should mean something to them. Dr. Phil was in Boston a couple of years
back. Hosting the national 4th of July broadcast of the Pops from the Hatch
Shell. He did not endear himself at the restaraunt in the North End where
he and his entourage dined. Never did care for the guy, but he bought
himself much bad will with a lot of people who heard the tale. It's quite
amazing when one who has so much is a cheap bastard to hard working folks
that have less. Hope it was worth it to the low class skunk.


Dano

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:14:15 PM11/10/09
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"DW" <DrWood...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Many restaurants now routinely add 18% to the tab on large groups too.


The Venerable Sarge

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:38:37 PM11/10/09
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On Nov 10, 8:45 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "mario in victoria" <mario5...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:tDmKm.14362$de6....@newsfe21.iad...

Judging people by what they tip ? What a joke. The biggest tippers I
ever met were mafiosa and people who were connected.

Dano

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:24:10 PM11/10/09
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"The Venerable Sarge" <srgnt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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See? This is still one more example of what a hopeless moron you actually
are. And why it's a huge waste of time to bother addressing you. Service
people depend on those gratuities for their very livelihood. Only real
scumbags...lower than those mafioso BTW...would withold payment from
hardworking folks...even for some percieved slight or less than perfect
service. It is shitheads like you that inspire me to overtip to try to
balance off your miserlieness. You ought to be ashamed. But you're too
stupid to understand why.


mario in victoria

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:28:47 PM11/10/09
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Not quite. My guy's an author.

mario in victoria
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not frequently on tv

mario in victoria

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:30:20 PM11/10/09
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Trust me. We remember the repeat customers.

mario in victoria
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really!

mario in victoria

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:34:19 PM11/10/09
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No, that's not true.

There's a complex formula that takes into account how much you've sold,
the amount of charges (credit, debit cards), and what one's 'payout' is.
In most restaurants, the wait staff kick back a percentage (2-4%) of
EVERY DOLLAR sold. i.e., if your 'ring out' is $1,000 in a night, where
I work you give the house $40. You keep all your tips. You do not pay
out your bus person or bartender or cooks.

The IRS (in Canada and in the US) takes this into account. In Canada,
the formula yields about 7-10% average gratuity per bill. They also
'know' that some customers will stiff you, period.

I was audited once and fought for months to look at their formula. It's
fairly accurate.

mario in victoria
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i could get a real job, i guess

mario in victoria

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:39:10 PM11/10/09
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What he might not understand is that if a customer is a lousy tipper and
frequents the locale on a regular basis, I can guarantee you he won't
get great service. It's human nature.

mario in victoria
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strangely enough, rich people are not, as a rule good tippers.

Dano

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:08:13 PM11/10/09
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"mario in victoria" <mari...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Especially those who were born into money. But they rarely give less than
15%. Just as they rarely tip more.


Tristan daCunha

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:29:28 AM11/11/09
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The acronym Tip =To insure promptness. Check your Funk and Wagnalls.
My friends and I support the concept.
We are not dining out to subsidize the coolie wages that establishments
pay their help.
All youse liberal "feel gooders" can do that
in our stead.
10 Q and enjoy your repast!

OceanView

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:58:46 AM11/11/09
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"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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I usually think 20 percent for any bill under $20, unless I have to start
subtracting because they disappeared for 20 minutes after leaving me the
bill. (It ain't over until I'm out the door, servers!)

I don't know about mario's experience, but various people I know have
told me that Canadians are the worst tippers, averaging 10 percent,
followed by (not surprisingly) Scottish.

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mario in victoria

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:32:50 PM11/11/09
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You're close. Australians are the lousiest tippers. Americans are the
best, followed by Japanese/Koreans/Chinese. Canadians are below that. I
haven't served enough Scots to make a judgment.

Many Europeans have to be 'reminded' that there is no built-in 'service
charge' like there is in Europe. Once they know that, they hit 15% easily.

Frankly, if I can hit 10% of my sales after my payout, I'm happy.

mario in victoria
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it's a living

PETER SHORTS

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:55:03 PM11/12/09
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On Nov 10, 11:08 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "mario in victoria" <mario5...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:ulqKm.14390$de6....@newsfe21.iad...> Dano wrote:
> > > "The Venerable Sarge" <srgntbi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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