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Once again Braves can't hold lead for Maddux

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Dick Sidbury

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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EpixGibson wrote:
>
> I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but the Braves just can't seem to
> get Maddux a win if he doesn't throw a shut-out. They did bail him out his
> last game when he game up 7 runs, but that is the only time. Ligtenberg can't
> close the game and just about LOST the game by giving up two homers.

Good grief! What are your standards for a closer? This is the first
blown
save for Ligtenberg since May 23. He had gone 20 appearances without
giving up a run until two games ago. He's overworked and needs Saturday
off
and maybe Sunday too. He'll be fine.

> However, that was a very nice catch by Klesko. Too bad its all for not.
Klesko also did quite well against left handed pitchers.

dick

EpixGibson

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but the Braves just can't seem to
get Maddux a win if he doesn't throw a shut-out. They did bail him out his
last game when he game up 7 runs, but that is the only time. Ligtenberg can't
close the game and just about LOST the game by giving up two homers.

Colin T. William

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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On 29 Aug 1998, EpixGibson wrote:

> I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but the Braves just can't seem to
> get Maddux a win if he doesn't throw a shut-out. They did bail him out his
> last game when he game up 7 runs, but that is the only time.

Hmmmm...17 wins, but not 17 shutouts. Seems your math needs some work.

> Ligtenberg can't
> close the game and just about LOST the game by giving up two homers.

The guy just blew his first game since May. Three friggin' months as a
closer. Would it be so damn much to ask of you to cut the guy some slack?
Sure would be nice to be as perfect as you. Meanwhile, the rest of us will
be over here in the corner being merely human.

I hate to say it, but I just knew it, I just knew that Iwould check in
here and find some idiots ignoring three months of excellent work to lay
into Kerry. Between you and that Jolly friggin' Rogers dumbass my
prediction was annoyingly confirmed.

*sigh*

Colin


Endymion9

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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>I hate to say it, but I just knew it, I just knew that Iwould check in
>here and find some idiots ignoring three months of excellent work to lay
>into Kerry. Between you and that Jolly friggin' Rogers dumbass my
>prediction was annoyingly confirmed.

What i wonder is why the Braves announcers know that Kerry needed a night off
(rest) tonite but Bobby Cox didn't?

Seanez sure looked great in the eighth! Wish he had been left in for the ninth.


Dennis/Endy
Happiness is reading a good scifi book :)

Jeff Jones

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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>Seanez sure looked great in the eighth! Wish he had been left in for the
ninth.


I'm sorry sir, that is a violation of MLB rules code 1.7B 0042: "A setup
man, shall pitch no more than one inning, in either inning number seven or
eight, regardless of fatigue level or pitching effectiveness"


Damn, Seanez was cookin' in the 8th. 97, 98 mph! I'm with you, just leave
him in there.

EpixGibson

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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Well, in my defense it was only minutes after the game had ended when that post
was written and I figured that people would know which game I was talking
about. Guess I was wrong

Jeff Jones

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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>of course the point was very clear to you. you wrote it. the meaning
>of text is very seldom disputed by the author.

If that's not a classic quote, it should be. very funny :-)

Billy

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Aug 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/29/98
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samuel m hutcheson <sa...@atl.mindspring.com> writes:

>concurringly, how many of you would have suggested leaving seaenz in
>BEFORE ligtenberg pitched?

I was yelling at my TV "What the hell is Ligtenberg doing out there
again"? as the 9th inning started. So, yeah, I'd've been for leaving
Seanez in. Or bringing in someone else, but not Kerry again.


Billy

Colin William

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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In article <JdUue5A....@delphi.com> Billy <just...@delphi.com> writes:
>samuel m hutcheson <sa...@atl.mindspring.com> writes:
>
>>concurringly, how many of you would have suggested leaving seaenz in
>>BEFORE ligtenberg pitched?

I wanted a day off for Ligtenberg, but at the same time I didn't want to
overwork Seanez for the day. I was hoping to see Rocker for the ninth. Or
even martinez.

Colin


samuel m hutcheson

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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"Jeff Jones" <zif...@mindspring.com.spamblock> wrote:

<blush> golly, i'm all jiggly inside now.

s/


female lead: "what's that up there?"
male lead: "oh, that's where mickey keeps his gardening tools."
female lead: "who's mickey?"
male lead: "the gardener."
Crow T. Robot: "As previously implied."


Twiddle

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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> <blush> golly, i'm all jiggly inside now.

What? Gettin' jiggly wid it?

Twiddle

samuel m hutcheson

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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Twiddle <"twiddle"@nospam .bellsouth.net> wrote:

>What? Gettin' jiggly wid it?

now i'm no expert or nothin', but i think that's "gettin' jiggy wid
it." or course, they may be the same thing for all i know...

Gregg Rosenberg

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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Jeff Jones (zif...@mindspring.com.spamblock) wrote:
:
: I'm sorry sir, that is a violation of MLB rules code 1.7B 0042: "A setup

: man, shall pitch no more than one inning, in either inning number seven or
: eight, regardless of fatigue level or pitching effectiveness"

Earlier in the year Cox said that, even though it was very tempting, they
wouldn't ever use Saenez for more than one inning because of his long
injury history. Cox said something to the effect of (paraphrasing), "Some
nights it's almost impossible to resist leaving him out there for two
or three innings, but we've got to because the guy has been hurt alot
in his career and we want him to help us for a long time." I can't say
I can complain about that policy.

--Gregg


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writings are not very useful.

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samuel m hutcheson

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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Twiddle <"twiddle"@nospam .bellsouth.net> wrote:

>samuel m hutcheson wrote:
>>
>> Twiddle <"twiddle"@nospam .bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> >What? Gettin' jiggly wid it?
>>
>> now i'm no expert or nothin', but i think that's "gettin' jiggy wid
>> it." or course, they may be the same thing for all i know...

>Stop being picky when I'm shooting for surreal...

i'm not being picky, i'm pointing out the fact that surrealism,
despite the current tendency to interpret it as a "stream of
consciousness" style of poetry, was in fact a very rigoruously defined
and identified form. to boot, it was much more than any currently
fashionalbe off-the-cuff writing, and held as it's sole aim the
destruction of power as manifested in the fascistic/authoritarian
state. as such, i'm not sure your "jiggly wid it" contains the sheer
rigour required of such a violent and discurssive project.

so there!

Twiddle

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Sep 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/1/98
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samuel m hutcheson wrote:
> as such, i'm not sure your "jiggly wid it" contains the sheer
> rigour required of such a violent and discurssive project.
>
> so there!
>

WOAH!!!
Yer gittin' REAL jiggly wid it!

Tweeeeedill

TOUG...@webtv.net

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Sep 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/6/98
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Your right, Seanez was smokin. Guess it just didn't make sense to leave
him in and let him close em out. He would have.

DGB {Toughone}


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