It's official: Braves' Hudson signs three-year extension
Joe Schmoe
return if they trade him.
By David O'Brien
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
It's official - the Braves have finalized a three-year contract extension
with pitcher Tim Hudson, a deal that includes a fourth-year option for 2013.
The contract is believed to be worth close to $9 million per season.
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http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/braves-hudson-signs-three-194849.html
Colin William
> I hope they find a away to Keep JV too...or else get a whale of a player in
> return if they trade him.
Glad they got that ironed out. Surprised it came in so low, honestly. I
was interested to see they're considering extending Vazquez.
Colin
Lookout
They look good for pitching with Hudson, Hanson and JJ.
They have Heywood waiting in the wings to sew up the OF.
Trade Chipper (I know..no trade clause..he might be interested) to the
AL (a switch hitting DH would get some interest) along with one of the
other starting pitchers for a young power hitting 3rd baseman.
And before I see tears..stop being so fucking sentimental about old
players. It's a business and this would be best interest of the
Braves.
Dick Sidbury
"Joe Schmoe" <mch...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Well you never know, but it seems like a bargain to me assuming that
Hudson has no after effects of his surgery
dick
Sam Hutcheson
I'd send anyone not named Heyward to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez.
s/
Dale Hicks
adedfb...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, sa...@bellsouth.net
says...
They'd send anyone not named Hanson right back to you.
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Dale Hicks
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:02:12 -0500, Colin William
> <colint...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Joe Schmoe wrote:
> >> I hope they find a away to Keep JV too...or else get a whale of a player in
> >> return if they trade him.
> >
> >Glad they got that ironed out. Surprised it came in so low, honestly. I
> >was interested to see they're considering extending Vazquez.
> >
> >Colin
>
> They look good for pitching with Hudson, Hanson and JJ.
>
> They have Heywood waiting in the wings to sew up the OF.
Heywood Jablome?
> Trade Chipper (I know..no trade clause..he might be interested) to the
> AL (a switch hitting DH would get some interest) along with one of the
> other starting pitchers for a young power hitting 3rd baseman.
Keep your pitchers (I think it takes two years for starting pitchers
to come back from Tommy John surgery, not the quoted 1.5 years), and
sign Adrian Beltre to give Chipper his one last chance. Or see if
Lowe would still earn you something (I've always hated him).
Power hitting 3B are in scare supply right now. Wright is in your
division, Longoria's untouchable, ARod's unaffordable, ARam is
fragile as glass, Stewart doesn't project to be more than he was last
year, and Gordon has proven nothing.
Zimmerman and Reynolds are decent targets, but I don't think either
team has anyone lined up to replace them, so the price might be too
high.
> And before I see tears..stop being so fucking sentimental about old
> players. It's a business and this would be best interest of the
> Braves.
Without Chipper, Smoltz, or Glavine, there'll be no one left to cry.
Jon Richardson
> Power hitting 3B are in scare supply right now. Wright is in your
> division, Longoria's untouchable, ARod's unaffordable, ARam is
> fragile as glass, Stewart doesn't project to be more than he was last
> year, and Gordon has proven nothing.
>
> Zimmerman and Reynolds are decent targets, but I don't think either
> team has anyone lined up to replace them, so the price might be too
> high.
The Nats signed Zimmerman to a long-term deal at the start of the
season (5 years, $71M maybe?) and combined with his first gold glove,
I don't see them trading him anytime soon. Mark Reynolds strikes me
as the kind of player the Braves probably should try to acquire (see
Dunn, Adam) but never actually do, possibly because of the ultra-high
strikeout rates.
Chipper's going to stay at 3B until he willingly gives it up. Though
Frank Wren is far less a sentimentalist than I believe JS to be, I
don't foresee Chipper moving off of 3B.
And yes, I know this wasn't your point, but it was just easier to
respond to you.
Jon
Sam Hutcheson
> > And before I see tears..stop being so fucking sentimental about old
> > players. It's a business and this would be best interest of the
> > Braves.
>
> Without Chipper, Smoltz, or Glavine, there'll be no one left to cry.
Bringing back Smoltz (like Glavine) would be sentimentality. Not
trading the guy who has been the best hitting 3B in baseball for the
last 15 years, only one year removed from a batting title, who still
posts 400 OBPs, all because his SLG dropped in the second half of last
year, is not sentimentality. There are maybe three 3B in all of
baseball who project to out perform Chipper Jones next year. You'd be
a fool to trade him for anything less than one of those guys.
s/
Sam Hutcheson
> In article <894c5718-141b-4010-b6a4-
> adedfb8e7...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, s...@bellsouth.net
> says...
>
> > On Nov 12, 12:02 pm, Colin William <colintwill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Joe Schmoe wrote:
> > > > I hope they find a away to Keep JV too...or else get a whale of a player in
> > > > return if they trade him.
>
> > > Glad they got that ironed out. Surprised it came in so low, honestly. I
> > > was interested to see they're considering extending Vazquez.
>
> > I'd send anyone not named Heyward to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez.
>
> They'd send anyone not named Hanson right back to you.
I'd send Hanson. TINSTAAPP.
s/
Lookout
As I said a YOUNG 3B candidate. Might be a top minor league prospect.
They have nothing in the system coming up and they better start
looking while they have some trade bait.
Lookout
He won't be in the top 10 next year. It's time to plan for the future.
Dale Hicks
mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
>
> As I said a YOUNG 3B candidate. Might be a top minor league prospect.
> They have nothing in the system coming up and they better start
> looking while they have some trade bait.
Any ideas?
Alvarez is probably untouchable, and he struggled this year anyways.
Brett Wallace is now listed as a 1B, and we'd have to trade with
Beane to get him. Vitters and Moustakas aren't in AA yet. Gamel's
an absolute butcher at third.
Maybe trading a pitcher for some post-hype player at 1B (Snider,
LaPorta, Clement) is the way to go.
Or sign Beltre/LaRoche and get an OF (I keep saying that Colorado has
more good OF than they have positions).
I suppose there may be a chance at prying Brandon Wood or the other
LaRoche away from teams as well.
Sam Hutcheson
Name 10 3B's who will out hit Chipper Jones in 2010. I'll be generous
and give you all of MLB to select from.
s/
Colin William
>>> I'd send anyone not named Heyward to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez.
>> They'd send anyone not named Hanson right back to you.
>
> I'd send Hanson. TINSTAAPP.
Is Hanson still a pitching "prospect"?
Not saying I wouldn't trade him, but I think you underestimate his
value. Young, cost-controlled pitching should bring more than a first
baseman coming off a career year. Yes, Gonzalez is signed for three
years at a great price, but I don't think he's so much of an improvement
over, say, Adam LaRoche that he's worth giving up Hanson.
Understand, I'm only basing this on how I think Hanson is perceived, and
I would think his perceived value is very high. I do expect both him and
Gonzalez to regress. Although, now that I look more closely, AG has been
hurt immensely by his ballpark - 46 HR at home since he went to San
Diego, 82 on the road, and a 900+ OPS on the road each of those four
years. So, maybe it's worth it if they think his road production is what
they'd get.
Colin
Lookout
>In article <27crf51paf912bjrn...@4ax.com>,
>mrLo...@yahoo.com says...
>>
>> As I said a YOUNG 3B candidate. Might be a top minor league prospect.
>> They have nothing in the system coming up and they better start
>> looking while they have some trade bait.
>
>Any ideas?
None. I don't follow the minor leagues. I'm talking strategy and not
specific players.
Sam Hutcheson
Gonzalez is Mark Teixeira. Hanson is a great young pitcher, but I'd
move him for Gonzalez. I doubt the Braves would.
s/
Colin William
> Gonzalez is Mark Teixeira. Hanson is a great young pitcher, but I'd
> move him for Gonzalez. I doubt the Braves would.
The main concern I have on Gonzalez is time. Three years is better than
one gets from most trades, though, so the Braves won't get burned as
they did on Tex and Drew. Hanson is ours for, what, five years? Six?
Colin
Sam Hutcheson
Six I think. 2015.
s/