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Bruce Boyd

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Jun 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/12/00
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"Mountain Mike^^" <bodfi...@freewwweb.com> wrote:

> It is the education system that affords Canadian youth their first
> glimpse at history. It is the education system that provides the nest
> in which Canadians can build perspective and critical thought.

Well MM^^, I read the whole article and although I agree with the writer's
basic sentiment that we haven't been witnessing democracy's finest moments
in recent years, I strongly disagree with some of the statements that he
uses to argue his case. I'm also confused about why you brought the article
to my attention. If you're throwing my 'smugness' back at me, fair enough.
There is a shit-load wrong in Canada. (we're working on it, we're working on
it)

The writer of this article, Matthew F. (no last name, maybe that's why his
member of parliament doesn't reply to him) starts off ranting about how he
was lied to by the education system. I can never remember once putting my
mind "into the hands of trusted teachers and principles." What a crock. He's
way off the mark as far as I'm concerned. I was educated by virtue of being
alive and aware, every day, everywhere. My school days, if anything, were
some of the most repressive of my youth. Signs, signs, everywhere there's
signs. Blocking out the scenery, breaking my mind. Do this, don't do that,
can't you read the signs?

>As many Canadians know, the history of the World Wars
>is a prominent part of our education. We fought and we won.
>We succeeded in destroying tyranny and fascism." They lied
>to us when they told us that.

But, further in the article he states that this in fact did happen and that
it was necessary and totally justified at the time, so where's the lie?

The writer sounds angry like a young revolutionary, and although I was on
his side sentiment-wise, he totally lost me with the amateurish,
unsubstantiated, and emotional writing style.

But then again, I could be wrong. ;-)

What say you?
--
Bruce
Protection Island

Mountain Mike^^

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Jun 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/12/00
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"Bruce Boyd" <cue...@nanaimo.ark.com> wrote in message
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> What say you?
> --
I don't know much about Canada's history. Just thought you might be
interested.........And I enjoyed your comments. I wonder, though, how much
resentment there really is in your country? And the causes? MM^^

Bruce Boyd

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Jun 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/12/00
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Resentment of what?
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Bruce
Protection Island

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Mountain Mike^^

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Jun 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/12/00
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"Bruce Boyd" <cue...@nanaimo.ark.com> wrote in message
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> Resentment of what?
> --
Hell, I dunno, it's YOUR country! I mean what was that guy really saying?
What are your main bitches about the gov't you have. If it's all bliss, then
I'm gonna apply for immigration, man! MM^^

donald tees

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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Mountain Mike^^ wrote in message <8i4l1...@news2.newsguy.com>...

BLISS! You have to be kidding! We have replaced dishonesty backed by power
with dishonesty backed by stupidity! Mind you, there is much less threat.
We can afford to ignore them to a far greater extent.
;<)

Bruce Boyd

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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"Mountain Mike^^" <bodfi...@freewwweb.com> wrote:

> Hell, I dunno, it's YOUR country! I mean what was
>that guy really saying? What are your main bitches
>about the gov't you have. If it's all bliss, then
> I'm gonna apply for immigration, man! MM^^

MM^^ previously wrote:

>I wonder, though, how much resentment there really is
>in your country? And the causes?

The writer of that article imo was basically railing about the unfairness of
life and focusing his rant on the present state of democracy in Canada. Of
course, he's right, but so what? Life IS unfair. It has always been thus and
it ever will be.

There are lots of various kinds of resentment at large in the population and
I could type for days about what I perceive as the flaws in our various
governments, (municipal, provincial, and federal) but I won't, because it's
all just grist for the mill. When the river swells and rages in the spring
from the winter snow melt, some stand on the shore and scream at the river
that it's being unfair. I move to higher ground, but I move back when the
river calms down because I don't want to haul the water so far. :-)

So, for me, living here is blissful, but you can find bliss wherever you
are. It's already inside you. Meanwhile, in my life as a Canadian, I have
enjoyed all the personal freedom that I could imagine a person enjoying. I
feel lucky and privileged to have been born when and where I was.

If you've never visited Canada, you owe yourself one.
--
Bruce
Protection Island


Bradley E. Robertson

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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Canadians help me out. The U.S. is touted as a melting pot of races. I
understand that Canada touts its diversity of races. Which county is most
racially tolerant?

Brad . . . who wonders how it will all work out

Bruce Boyd

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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"Bradley E. Robertson" <br...@whidbey.com> wrote in message
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> Canadians help me out. The U.S. is touted as a melting pot of races. I
> understand that Canada touts its diversity of races. Which county is most
> racially tolerant?

You might ask, which is less sweet, an apple or an orange. That is, although
both countries have memories of conduct unbecoming, at present, there are no
better places to live on the planet. There are other very nice places too,
but they're just different, not better.
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Bruce
Protection Island

Ed McCune

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Jun 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/14/00
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Bruce, you about said it all for me. I love the country, the people and the
land, and merely tolerate the politicians. I too feel privileged to have
been born Canadian and I think most Americans feel the same way about their
country. Look at the news we get from other countries, even Europe, and,
regardless of the problems we do have, you'll have to admit we are lucky.
Heck, in Canada, you're considered poor and underpriveliged if you only have
1 VCR, 1 TV but no computer or car. In Calgary, reduce that to 1 used out of
date computer and an old car.

Ed

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Ed McCune

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Jun 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/14/00
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I believe many Canadians are as racist as anyone in any country, we just
don't talk about it. That is, a person who dislikes Natives will still treat
Natives he meets with courtesy. He'll just tell his freinds later in private
what he really thinks. Better? I don't know, just more polite.

Ed

Bradley E. Robertson wrote in message ...


>Canadians help me out. The U.S. is touted as a melting pot of races. I
>understand that Canada touts its diversity of races. Which county is most
>racially tolerant?
>

Anthony DeAngelo

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Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
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Mountain Mike^^ wrote:
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> "Bruce Boyd" <cue...@nanaimo.ark.com> wrote in message
> news:8i4is...@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > Resentment of what?
> > --
> Hell, I dunno, it's YOUR country! I mean what was that guy really saying?
> What are your main bitches about the gov't you have. If it's all bliss, then
> I'm gonna apply for immigration, man! MM^^

Better check your firearms at the border. Also, you get to sign-up for
gov't health care. They say it's great, but I've seen some of the teeth
on the girls up there. It's about midway between the U.S. and England,
IMO. Also, ever notice how hamburgers in Canada always taste a little
different? Maybe it's moose. I think you could get used to that. And
you better start liking cold weather and hockey, cause brudduh, you are
going to get plenty of both. Finally, you better work on your accent,
eh?

Anthony DeAngelo

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Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
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Bradley E. Robertson wrote:
>
> Canadians help me out. The U.S. is touted as a melting pot of races. I
> understand that Canada touts its diversity of races. Which county is most
> racially tolerant?
>
> Brad . . . who wonders how it will all work out


IMO Brad (and boy am I about to get it) Canada has much less racial
tension than the U.S. On the other hand, all the black people in Canada
could fit into one city block of Chicago. I also think that the U.S.
has a more diverse population, although maybe it's just that it has more
population.

donald tees

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Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
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Anthony DeAngelo wrote in message <394F76...@mindspring.com>...

You have obviously not been in Toronto lately. As a native born, I am a
distinct minority, though that is less true in smaller cities. About 35% of
Canada's population is not native born. That is not to say there is no
racial tension ... there is. I think a lot less than in the States, though.


donald tees

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Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
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The health care system does NOT cover dental. Maybe that is why.
;<)

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