"beware"
Ronald Donaldson
even during the light of day,
the night lay in wait....
-Ronald
Love-The-Light
something is going to destroy it. If I live in fear all of the time, then
how am I to live and learn? So, even though I realize dark may fall upon my
light at anytime, I still embrace my life and spirit as if i will never
loose it : ).
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
Ronald Donaldson <rdon...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:IRKv6.628$aD4....@news2.atl...
dmshea
This is so true of the human condition, isn't it? A constant battle between
faith and fear. Even those of us who know that we are surrounded by so much
love and beauty, and that there really is never anything to worry about, and
yet we still have these irrational fears. I must constantly remind myself
just to have faith in myself, in my intuition, in the power of Spirit, but
still these fears keep coming back.
It's the fear of darkness that creates the darkness(which brings on the
fears). Ironic, isn't it?
Take care,
Derek.
"Love-The-Light" <kri...@futurenet.co.za> wrote in message
news:3abf7ebe$0$2...@hades.is.co.za...
Kiwiislander
to go in!!
Your own mind is KEEPING you in your reality of fear!
"dmshea" <d_s...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:JkNv6.540423$JT5.15...@news20.bellglobal.com...
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.240 / Virus Database: 116 - Release Date: 23/03/01
dmshea
I couldn't agree with you more.
Choosing fear is a definite choice, yet sometimes these fears pop up so fast
and so automatically in response to certain situations, that reprogramming
your mind isn't as simple as it sounds.
Take care,
Derek.
"Kiwiislander" <kiwiis...@inet.net.nz> wrote in message
news:98563922...@kyle.inet.net.nz...
Ronald Donaldson
> something is going to destroy it. If I live in fear all of the time, then
> how am I to live and learn? So, even though I realize dark may fall upon
my
> light at anytime, I still embrace my life and spirit as if i will never
> loose it : ).
>
will never loose it is dangerous.It's just that I dont think the gifts we've
been given should be taken for granted. Thats not to say we shoulnt enjoy
our gifts,but I dont think "death" should be neglected.Afterall,what is life
without it?Death is but the agent of change...one might even go as far as
to consider life and death synonymous,and justly so,for they are
inseperable.Any fear of so called "death" therefore would be fear of an
aspect of life...I believe we should embrace our fears...and there is no
fear that isnt a fear of "death".And the Worst thing we can do is to run
from ourselves.
Forgive me if this is less than inspiring...In humility,
-Ronald
Love-The-Light
encasing his or herself in it. Or one can choose to step out of it and take
the risk of life.
Yup that faith you have in yourself, your intuition and your spirirt are
great tools to help you help you battle your fears.
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
dmshea <d_s...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:JkNv6.540423$JT5.15...@news20.bellglobal.com...
Love-The-Light
ease..especially the kind of person I am..but my spirit knowsssssss
otherwise.
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
Ronald Donaldson <rdon...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:l%Ov6.697$tG3....@news1.atl...
Love-The-Light
many props and tactics to do so.
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
dmshea <d_s...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:XUOv6.540544$JT5.15...@news20.bellglobal.com...
Love-The-Light
with death. It has to do with remaining positive through the bad and good.
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
Ronald Donaldson <rdon...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:l%Ov6.697$tG3....@news1.atl...
Love-The-Light
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
Love-The-Light <kri...@futurenet.co.za> wrote in message
news:3ac01d7d$0$2...@helios.is.co.za...
meercat
I wish I could be as strong as you and your convictions. It is sometimes
not easy for some people to abolish irrational fears. It is sometimes a
case of chemical imbalance or other illness that affects your better
judgement. Sometimes a pure heart and a positive outlook are not enough to
stop the fears from biting at your ankles.
Jo (meercat)
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Who looks outside, dreams,
Who looks inside, awakens.
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Kiwiislander <kiwiis...@inet.net.nz> wrote in message
news:98563922...@kyle.inet.net.nz...
Shas...@webtv.net
The idea that the mind is "two dimensional " tool..... is the same as
picking up a hammer with the left hand and a hammer with the right
hand....to pond the same nail ....in a coffin.
Which one do you think will really get the job done ?
Well, ....when it's time to give up the battle of "good vs bad"....
there are five other dimensions for expanding one's conscius awareness
to the their outer edges.
Namaste'
shasta
http;//Spirit-Quest.tripod.com/INSIGHTS.html
.
ACIM...@webtv.net
Hi Bunny ~ there is one thing that we DO have power over - - - it is our
thoughts. We are much too lenient with our minds. We must be vigilant
against these thoughts that fill us with fear and rob us of our power.
Stand guard at the door of your mind, and do not allow these thieves and
robbers to enter. If one gets past you, throw it out, dismiss it, and
send it back into the nothingness from which it came. You are
stronger and wiser than any thought of fear
which trys to take hold of you. Tell all these liars to be gone in the
name of Love.
Elizabeth
Bruce Starr
Anybody want to tackle how fear serves us, instead of just berating it.
I'm not speaking of the fear induced by a dangerous situation, but the
fear inherent in being human. What is the source of that community fear;
what is its purpose, as someone said, illusion or no, it is reality,
speaking to us. Anybody care to explore what its message is, or should
we rather continue to define it "from the outside."
with love,
Bruce, <a man of circular thinking, knowing that there is much more here
than meets his eye.>
Bruce Starr
..and shivered in release as I surrendered
..and shivered in awe as I knew
..and shivered no more
Love-The-Light
It depends upon the person. I have fears that do not necessarily reflect the
fear itself, rather a much more signficant problem. I also have fears that I
believe do not serve me other to bring me down. It just depends upon the
person and the situation involved.
Love and light-
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
Bruce Starr <Heart...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6827-3AC...@storefull-297.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
Love-The-Light
Absolutely, Elizabeth! I have never thought of my fears as little liars..but
I have fears that are. I will take your suggestion heavily.
Love, Peace, and light-
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
<ACIM...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:20576-3AC...@storefull-255.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
freespirit
Outside of fear "in a dangerous situation" I believe anxiety would
be a better way of describing how we feel.
As in nervousness, worry, concern, apprehension.
Rather then
Terror, dread, horror, fright, panic.
No matter how convinced we are there is always that little piece of
us that remains unsure so we keep on searching for that which
remains just out of reach. From it our awareness grows only to find
there is another piece just out of reach, so the story unfolds.
Take care
Dave
--
http://www.spirituality2000.org.
Last update 6/3/2001
"Bruce Starr" <Heart...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6827-3AC...@storefull-297.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
ACIM...@webtv.net
Jo ~ agreed - and all any of us can do is the
best that we can do from one moment to the
next. What i have found is i can do quite a
lot moment by moment. It's when we look
at the big picture, and try to take it huge
bites at a time, that we get over-whelmed.
It truly helps too, to keep your hand in the hand of a loving friend.
:o)
Elizabeth
ACIM...@webtv.net
Hi Bruce ~
If you want to talk about that ole liar and deceiver, fear, with me,
here I Am! :o)
However, i truly don't see it - fear - as reality.
I do see love as real. Love being the essense of who and what we are, is
ever with us. Always there to support us, hold us to the light; a
constant reminder that there is nothing to fear.
This is a proven; love over-comes fear, time and time again.
What purpose do you see fear serving? Granted, we are not speaking of
physical danger, but rather the fear inherent in being human. I could
grant that the purpose fear serves is to show us we are not our fear.
I call fear a liar and deceiver because it makes us FEEL we have no
power and are at the mercy of some monster who is able to control us
and, if you will, make us DISAPPEAR.
The above feelings need not be and can be overcome by letting go of our
belief in them, and by surrendering to a higher power, which is within
each and every one of us and CAN be accessed. This is usually a process.
Some people "see the light" very quickly, while others need to test it,
put a toe in the water, and proceed with great caution. Why? Maybe we
are move comfortable with fear than with love.
Another purpose fear could serve is to keep us prisoners - locked up in
our ego minds so that we spend our lives "looking at our limitations"
rather than reaching for higher ground and finding out: We Are Filled
With God Power!
One of my favorite affirmations is: Oh God, what I can do, when I let
go and let You!
Emotions build upon each other. With fear as the foundation, then comes
guilt, shame and anger. I would agree that one needs to examine these
building blocks in order to understand how the thoughts form the
feelings and how belief systems rise from them. Many people do not
choose to look and "see" that there is a key,
a way to open that prison door and move out of that fear chamber and
live in the light.
I have examined it "from the inside" and also from the outside. Either
way i look at it, i see an illusion of self. I am not my fear and
knowing this, i ask H.S. to heal the insane thought that told me i was.
We do not heal on the level of the dis-ease - we must rise up and see it
for what it is - in truth - nothing to be afraid of.
Elizabeth (not afraid to look at fear; not afraid to look at love
either-here's looking at you, love.)
Lynx
I don't know.
Presuming that we are speaking of inner fears and spiritual fears what
purpose does fear serve? A very good one. It shows us that we are
alive...it can shake us out of complacency....it can move us to strive
beyond
our self imposed boundaries....Fear is a very useful tool....like all others
provided to us by Spirit.. It shows us where we need to be looking.
--
In Truth and With Love
Pia aka Lynx <very familiar with running
around in circles chasing
a tail that isn't there..>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Truth IS.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Bruce Starr" <Heart...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6827-3AC...@storefull-297.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
Lynx
Fear is not a bad thing, you know....without it
we would have a good many dead heroes.
Used constructively fear can be a great motivator,
used destructively or non-constructively, fear can
reduce us to shadows of our inner spirit.
It is a personal drive and/or circumstance more than
a choice which determines where we lie in that
spectrum of using fear....because I don't accept that
some people actually CHOOSE to feel fear in a
non-constructive way....I think, it is just that no-one
or no-thing has shown them that there is another way....
because negative fear is by its very nature dampening
to constructive thought.
"Fear is the little death".... :o) and death can and/or
is a transformative experience....
In Truth and With Love
Pia aka Lynx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Truth IS.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Kiwiislander" <kiwiis...@inet.net.nz> wrote in message
news:98563922...@kyle.inet.net.nz...
Lynx
It is like all else of Spirit...it is there to help us...
by experiencing it and being aware....we grow
stronger and we learn more and more about
ourselves...
And if nothing else, it can teach us compassion.
In Truth and With Love
Pia aka Lynx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Truth IS.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"meercat" <meer...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:3ac0...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Lynx
Whilst your light is there....burning however small or however
bright....the dark cannot be total....
Without the dark, there can be no light...and vica versa... :o)
And besides, there's a whole lot out there in this world of
ours to be fearful of....If you fear it, you are aware of it...
use your fear to propel you forward and beyond the fear
itself....
I know there are bucket loads of stuff out there that scare
me sh.. umm... silly. Most of it walks unseen relying on
our unawareness of it.
In Truth and With Love
Pia aka Lynx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Truth IS.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Love-The-Light" <kri...@futurenet.co.za> wrote in message
news:3abf7ebe$0$2...@hades.is.co.za...
Kiwiislander
"Lynx" <kee...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:3ac1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Lynx
There is that....<smile>...
Fear also has many other names which also justify its
existance....
--
In Truth and With Love
Pia aka Lynx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Truth IS.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Kiwiislander" <kiwiis...@inet.net.nz> wrote in message
news:98575591...@kyle.inet.net.nz...
Love-The-Light
have their own unique paths. What you perceive may be a "justification of
fear" maybe something they have to learn here.
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
Kiwiislander <kiwiis...@inet.net.nz> wrote in message
news:98575591...@kyle.inet.net.nz...
Love-The-Light
Thank you dearly for your insight. It has opened my eyes up quite a bit ; ).
Love, light, and Peace~
Bunny
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
Lynx <kee...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:3ac1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
meercat
I agree with you. Fear is a survival mechanism intrinsic to our basic
survival. By survival I am referring to both physical and emotional
survival. We can choose to
call it another name if it suits the purpose but - sometimes a pea is just a
pea!
--
Jo (meercat)
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Who looks outside, dreams,
Who looks inside, awakens.
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Bruce Starr <Heart...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6827-3AC...@storefull-297.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
meercat
That's it Bruce!
Jo (meercat)
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Who looks outside, dreams,
Who looks inside, awakens.
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Bruce Starr <Heart...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6827-3AC...@storefull-297.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
ACIM...@webtv.net
Hi Bunny ~ sometimes there is a way to freedom through taking things
"lightly."
A good laugh at/with oneself can do
wonders to "disappear" fears and bring
us to our true self.
Elizabeth
Nelson Noggle
You asked ....
[[[Anybody want to tackle how fear serves us, instead of just berating it.]]]
I see "fear as an emotional feeling" somewhere along the left side of the following continuum, which we might call our "emotional range" ....
DISTRESS <---------------> ELATION
This continuum is somewhat analogous to a "radar system" alerting us at a feeling level how things are going in relation to both intuitive and learned expectations.
In conjunction with our memory patterns, and I use the word "patterns" since memories have a way of associating themselves with other memoriesand feelings, our emotional radar system acts as an "early warning system" to warn us of pending problems before they become unsolvable, just as the radar system for an air traffic controller reaches out against known [in memory] standards of altitude and speed to warn pilots long before [supposedly] a tragedy could happen.
As with a radar system, our emotional range works for us only as good as the accuracy of what is "in memory" -- hence some people fear today what they feared 20 years ago because their memory is suggesting to them [usually at an unconscious level] that it might still be true today. But this is only a simplistic view -- for the human memory also has "emotional content" -- not only do we remember the "cause and result", we are also left with an indelible imprint emotionally ....
As a result, 20 years later we can be in a situation where enough of the current stimuli line up with the unconscious memory from the past, and induce an emotional response disproportionate to the current event.
Unresolved emotional events [traumatic or long-lasting situations] can have a way of being "left in our mind", and "bubbling up" or "erupting" later in life. Now there are many ways to "resolve" emotional events, and it appears that the best happens "close-in" to the time of the original causing event -- that it is best if we try to resolve things as we go, if possible -- which can be served by our sense and faith re: Spirit/Self depending on whether or not we have unresolved "religious abuse" mucking up our memory and fear patterns.
For those who are not fortunate to resolve one or more significant emotional events as they occurred, various healing approaches are practiced, spiritual and non-spiritual, each having success to the degree they provide ample safety for the person to deal with healing themselves. As a result, some find healing by "forgetting or displacing" at a very deep level, some mentally and emotionally "relive and reconstruct" the event in light of today and restructure their thinking, some learn to "turn it over to God/Spirit" and work on controlling/not controlling what is present today, and some remain "haunted by the past" with feelings bubbling up or erupting even to the point of making their lives difficult. Therefore, it seems ....
"Fear is natural and good even if it feels bad,
as it is simply one of our danger signals; but
imprisonment by fear-induced memory patterns,
accompanied by an inflated signal of fear,
can cause individuals and relationships to suffer."
One additional note -- the courageous have a way of either accidently or purposely judging those imprisoned by fear -- honoring the path of both the courageous and fearful is a Love Story ....
--
Take Care and Love, Nelson
John Morris
Where do you get this death from?
There is no such thing as death the spirit force and light that shines within
each one of us is eternal and part of our creator God the eternal spirit.
Our spirit is indistructable.
Love and Light to you all,
John.
Bruce Starr
What fear, cloaked in anger, is grabbing you here? Wounding others, from
an unconscious awareness, is a great opportunity to go inside and learn
self.
Bruce
Shas...@webtv.net
Mike ~
The "overview" of fear does provide a different understanding of fear;
different indeed from the "polar" view.
Western thought often is the focus upon one end of the stick; many times
leading to beating the other end to a bloody stump.
Oriental thought tends more to "grasp" ideas and perception......from
the center.
....the balance focrum point; the point where truth often waits and
discovered when the mind .....relaxes it battles against its own created
illusions.
The spoon serves the one who picks it up and uses it.
Fear is the same ....a tool.
Truth is the same....a tool.
Namaste'
shasta
Welcome:
http://Spirit-Quest.tripod.com
http://Spirit-Quest.tripod.com/Daily-Thought
and to the :news:alt.spirituality.circle
Love-The-Light
(Smile)
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
<ACIM...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18126-3A...@storefull-253.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
Stuntman
"death" which unfortunately for some can be quite a traumatic event
peace
K
--
http://www.mystical-warrior.org.uk/
last updated: 6/03/01
------
John Morris <jmbr19882cab...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3AC20AD1...@cableinet.co.uk...
Azurite
Thanks for the reminder that was well put.
I think most are aware of this - the discussion was more geared to "vacating
the physical body" and the method of it.
--
In Love Light and Service
The Guardian
"John Morris" <jmbr19882cab...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3AC20AD1...@cableinet.co.uk...
Bruce Starr
And sometimes there is simply nothing better than a good "pea"!
meercat
ROFLMAO!! :o))
--
Jo (meercat)
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Who looks outside, dreams,
Who looks inside, awakens.
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Bruce Starr <Heart...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:148-3AC...@storefull-293.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
ACIM...@webtv.net
Find plenty of truth and food for thought. Your statement that the
courageous have a way of accidentally or purposefully judging those
imprisoned by fear is worthy of further study. It has been my
experience that those appearing to be courageous are often filled with
fear and doubt.
Perhaps they seem to be judgmental because of their zeal to show the
imprisoned ones the key to freedom. My understanding of courage is not
to be free of fear - rather to feel the fear and move through it.
Doesn't ring true for me that a courageous person would judge another's
fear whether by accident or on purpose. Courage is born through faith
and grace. Those who have received these gifts, imo, want to share the
wonder of them with others. Those imprisoned in their fear, are looking
for courage in one form or another, to break free. We know Love is the
answer and that is what the truly courageous
have to share with us. Living their lives, choosing love in the face of
fear, is their testimony, not their judgment.
Peace,
Elizabeth
The Hermit
<jmbr19882cab...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
Yes, John...we all realize this...but realizing and accepting are two
different things. We are all at different levels of awareness. Is this
how you would counsel a bereaved mother who just lost her child? Would
you go to Africa and say to a child starving to death..there is no
such thing as death. The child couldn't care less...but a piece of
bread might bring a smile to its face. There are times when our
knowledge, our philosophies, are simply empty words in a situation of
crisis.
Hermit
freespirit
Just a little poem I wrote.
Body and Spirit
Rest now my friend, our epic journey over.
Hand in hand we faced each new adventure.
Together sharing, what laid before us.
Pain, fear, pleasure, joy and sorrow.
There were times you could not see me
Lost, you travelled, alone and empty.
Not for a moment did I leave your side
Rest now my friend, our epic journey over.
Feel the embracing sleep surround you
Knowing I your friend stands by your side.
Sleep sleep dear friend, we will meet again.
Not until I know you are gently sleeping.
Will I leave your side, to answer the calling
To take me back to my homeland once more.
Rest now my friend, our epic journey over.
Now you are asleep, I will soon be leaving.
First I kiss you and let this tear drop fall
Sleep well my friend, sleep well.
Freespirit
--
http://www.spirituality2000.org.
Last update 6/3/2001
"Stuntman" <ke...@mystical-warrior.org.uk> wrote in message
news:99v28o$2u3mu$1...@ID-34976.news.dfncis.de...
Stuntman
Peace
Keith
--
http://www.mystical-warrior.org.uk/
last updated: 6/03/01
------
freespirit <frees...@spirituality2000.org> wrote in message
news:99vmn2$32s0g$1...@ID-32052.news.dfncis.de...
The Hermit
Yep..but if a bean is a bean..what's a pea??
Love-The-Light
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
Stuntman <ke...@mystical-warrior.org.uk> wrote in message
news:99v28o$2u3mu$1...@ID-34976.news.dfncis.de...
Love-The-Light
that enlightenment.
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
<ACIM...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18127-3A...@storefull-253.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
Love-The-Light
--
B.E. NICHOLLS
Love The Light
The Power of Spirit, Light, and Love
ICQ#: 12871975
John Morris <jmbr19882cab...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3AC20AD1...@cableinet.co.uk...
> Hello to you all,
>
> Where do you get this death from?
From my perspective..
>
> There is no such thing as death the spirit force and light that shines
within
> each one of us is eternal and part of our creator God the eternal spirit.
You see it as such..but for a devine purpose..I see it in other ways.
>
> Our spirit is indistructable.
True..but our bodies are and I am my body and spirit.
Nelson Noggle
Sometimes it is those who "profess" courage rather than the truly courageous who are judgmental ....
Secondly, zeal is not always the answer to helping others who are fearful -- for often it is the zealous they are afraid of ....
Thirdly, many are frightened by another's testimony ....
What is so hard to accept sometimes [as you so wisely point out], is the notion that the "listener" is king/queen of what he/she perceives ....
LOL -- it reminds me of the song by the Smother's Brothers -- when one fell into a vat of chocolate and yelled "Fire!" -- because he knew nobody would come running if he yelled "Chocolate!" ....
LOL -- he didn't know this group -- <chuckle>
But, I think you know what I mean -- to stand on a hill yelling [giving testimony] what others cannot understand because of the way you are yelling it is just as open to judgment as those who cannot allow themselves to understand it ....
Fear -- the kind that is woven into the basic fabric of one's memory/emotion patterns -- can be both honored and open to re-examination by the person holding the fear -- the best we can do is offer someone enough safety to do both without casting more judgment or forcing anything on them ....
There is beauty in the notion that someone's mind can create a "fear mechanism" to prevent oneself from ever being "hurt again" -- and yet there is irony that the same "fear mechanism" can make them feel uneasy or worse if it hounds them at every turn ....
With the compassion and patience of unconditional love, the person can freely view various "choices" of other ways of looking at things -- being mindful that it is their "fabric" and their "weaving", therefore their "re-examination" and their "choices" ....
By giving this "Love", we can offer them our courage [as you say] without judgment ....
--
Take Care and Love, Nelson
~ fear is a Love Story, too
<ACIM...@webtv.net> wrote in message news:18127-3A...@storefull-253.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
ACIM...@webtv.net
That part we call ego and that part we
call spirit - and that part we call ????
Just love it and laugh - knowing God
loves us no matter how we chop ourselves
up and put labels on different pieces :o)
Peace
Elizabeth
Lynx
so beautifully.....it touched me very deeply
Dave...thank you...
--
In Truth and With Love
Pia aka Lynx (thinkin' of home)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Truth IS.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"freespirit" <frees...@spirituality2000.org> wrote in message
news:99vmn2$32s0g$1...@ID-32052.news.dfncis.de...
Bruce Starr
And sometimes there's nothing better than a good "leek"! :<)))))
Bruce <hoping YA is reattachable, perhaps butt-ons>
meercat
Oh Bruce - you made me laugh so hard I can't stop "coffin"!!! :0))))
--
Meercat
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Who looks outside, dreams,
Who looks inside, awakens.
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Bruce Starr <Heart...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23986-3AC...@storefull-298.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
freespirit
Thank you
I wanted to express the feeling behind
my words, hopefully I have achieved it.
Other times it will take the form of a
painting. Sometimes my limited
command of the English language is a
source of frustration. The computer
while a godsend and spell and grammar
checkers help, one cannot send body
language which is a major part of our
communication skills. Still some is better
then none.
Take care
Dave
--
http://www.spirituality2000.org.
Last update 6/3/2001
"Stuntman" <ke...@mystical-warrior.org.uk> wrote in message
news:99vnt3$30f85$1...@ID-34976.news.dfncis.de...
Stuntman
it was a very good poem and the meaning easily understood :o)
Peace
Keith
--
http://www.mystical-warrior.org.uk/
last updated: 6/03/01
------
freespirit <frees...@spirituality2000.org> wrote in message
news:9a1rqg$34kcl$4...@ID-32052.news.dfncis.de...
ACIM...@webtv.net
love story.
Elizabeth
Bruce Starr
There is a part of me which deeply connects with part of you. I, too,
want to know that which can't be known. I too spend much time fearing. I
too, at times, attempt to assuage that fear when it is rampant, by
asking others to align themselves with me, thereby validating, in my
mind, my beliefs. But we are human, we do feel, we do hurt, we do need
each others, loving, supporting, sacrificing, accepting. Please let us
in, we want you here as a member of our loving circle. Let us see a
glimpse of you behind the mask of all-knowingness. The healing you are
looking for is here, it isn't that we don't love you, we do, but with
such resistance, we struggle for your acceptance. Your presence teaches
us about ourselves, our struggle to love through the resistance to that
love and we thank you for that lesson. Let that Spirit that is in you
know that it is loved by the Spirit that is in us, let the ego in you
know there is another way. Let us in, John, just a snip, and you will
know, slowly, painfully, that what you are searching for is Love. It is
knocking on your door, and you are saying "Go away, I'm looking for
Love."
Bruce
The Hermit
>Thank You Nelson ~ least i forget that fear is very much a part of the
>love story.
Especially when you are required to clean a shitty nappy for the first
time. This surely has cursed me with unresolved issues. Love is always
the bringer of surprises.
Hermit
The Hermit
<jmbr19882cab...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
John,
You must have accidentally pressed the email button.
I know the level you were addressing...but unfortunately, not everyone
is at that level...the silent readers?...to place a different
perspective of understanding.
Hermit
ACIM...@webtv.net
Dear Bruce,
Thank you for this love letter - though not
addressed to me - the wisdom is so profound and the invitation so
sincere, I'm tucking it
away in my heart for days when i just need
a nudge to remember what we are all about.
Love,
Eli
ACIM...@webtv.net
freespirit
Thank you
It is how I feel about the relationship
and I don't see the attachment as
being detrimental to spiritual growth.
Take care
Dave
--
http://www.spirituality2000.org.
Last update 6/3/2001
"Lynx" <kee...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:3ac3...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
ACIM...@webtv.net
Hermit ~ ROF LOL ~ you fearful of shit?
Leaving you with.......unresolved shit issues?
How many years have you been trying to get over this shitty issue? :o)
Ah the things we do for love - and the things we do cause the kid
smells bad!
Eli
freespirit
My e-mails to you keeps getting bounced.
Yes feel free to do so.
Take care
Freespirit (Dave)
--
http://www.spirituality2000.org.
Last update 20/3/2001
The Hermit
I still have this terrible memory and vision of my sister taking out
her naked kid and hosing him down outside with the garden hose. It was
the safest way to do it. My mind is tormented by such visions.
Hermit (doesn't even want to think about it)
ACIM...@webtv.net
neighbor who had several little kids - she used to put them outside
naked - and hose em down before taking them back in the house. Ugh!!!
I am filled with tears to remember that scene. Poor little babies; all
of them screaming and crying.
Sorry to have made a joke out of your sharing. I sincerely thought you
were funnin.
Eli
The Hermit
>Hermit ~ Gawddddd now you have stirred a memory in me. Next door
>neighbor who had several little kids - she used to put them outside
>naked - and hose em down before taking them back in the house. Ugh!!!
>I am filled with tears to remember that scene. Poor little babies; all
>of them screaming and crying.
Ever think the poor woman might had white shag pile carpet?
>Sorry to have made a joke out of your sharing. I sincerely thought you
>were funnin.
Well I was...but it was still a real life experience.
Hermit