Spanking Demographics?
ssp...@webtv.net
common denominators in spankos. These characteristics seem to form a composite
spanking profile. I base my "findings" on reading the spanking NGs, chatting
with spankos by IM or chatroom, and r/l meetings and/or play. This is what I
have concluded:
The majority of spankos seem to be baby boomers. Most
spankos seem to be well-educated and professionally employed. Many spankos seem
to have more refined tastes and outside interests than average. Most spankos
seem to fall into the higher end of middle income or above.
In a general sense,
does the above profile sound right to you or do you think I'm way off? What
would you add or change in the profile to make it more generally "accurate" in
your personal view? Do you think there would be similar or different
characteristics in a spanking profile vs. a BDSM profile?
This post is NOT
intended to represent factual research. Just a bit of fun speculation for
discussion purposes :-) .
Spark
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Lawrence of Arabia
fits in one demographic because of fitting in another.
This is stereotyping. And I've no problem with stereotyping so long as it is
acknowledged and people realize what it is. Becaues too often people don't
realize it is, and make more assumptions. And dealing with assumptions just
plain sucks.
I actually don't fall in any of those categories. Of course, I don't attend
spanko meetings as a rule.
But, ah well.
-Lawrence
KittenKlaws
is not factual, but you're noticing a trend here.
I've been a spanko from a
very early age when I had nothing, hehe..
SG
ssp...@webtv.net
says...
>
<<Great topic, Beth! >>
Thanks, SG!
<<As you said, what you're
discovering through online research is not factual, but you're noticing a trend
here.>>
Exactly!
<<I've been a spanko from a very early age when I had
nothing, hehe..>>
Well, I doubt you've ever lacked humor and wit, SG :-)
The Guv'nor
I don't normally include the whole of a persons post in my response, but I will
this time as a point of reference.
As you know, I find this sort of question fascinating.
On the whole I agree with your observations. From personal experience, the
people I come into contact with in relation to our lifestyle, are predominantly
from the middle to higher socio-economic groups. They also tend to fall within a
particular age range.
Having said that, I am not implying this represents the whole picture. Remember
many of us are talking from the perspective of our online experiences via chat
rooms, e-mail or newsgroups such as this. Whilst I know more mature age groups
use online services, I think it is fair to say that the majority of users would
fall within a certain age range.
If we take that as being true, it could also be fair to say that people from
different generations may have different attitudes to discussing their
lifestyle. Many older members of the community may be more reluctant to discuss
such issues, than those who are used to a more liberal and open environment.
As to background, that's where it gets difficult and we enter "treading on
eggshells" territory.
With the exception of perhaps institutions such as English Public Schools, I
find that middle class parents on average had/have a more liberal approach to
child discipline than those of the lower classes. I do not want to introduce the
subject of child spanking, but when one considers such issues, it is a factor
that can not be ignored.
What I am getting at, is that perhaps for those who were more familiar with
discipline being the rule rather than the odd exception, such discipline in
adult life may not have such appeal.
I know when I have broached the subject with vanillas, I have often received the
response "Oh no, I had far too many spankings as a kid."
Again I am aware from my own dealings with people, that many who did experience
regular discipline, carried a need/desire for such discipline into adult life.
One thing I do find about our lifestyle, is the many contradictions. Just when
you think you have found a pattern in your own emotions, or the lifestyle in
general, something will happen to make you think again or qualify your thoughts.
It is true to say that I find as many common elements, as I do unique ones.
One other thing I find puzzling is that as spanking in traditional enviroments
decline, adult spanking appears to be on the increase. Again this can perhaps be
attributed to the a more open society and the availability of media such as the
Internet.
Do a search on Google using the safety filter. Yow will be surprised how many
times phrases such as "Acme Company needs a good spanking" or "Wendy Smith needs
her botty smacked" used in a non spanking context (by that I mean the article is
about something other than spanking).
Several times on Australian television, shows such as "Sex Life" have featured
interviews with the owner of a well known Sydney B&D establishment.The segments
included footage of spanking/whipping within the establishment. The lady in
question has also appeared on panel shows.
Now these programs would certainly be targetted towards a particular age group,
and to some extent, a particular socio-economic group.
You presented a very good question Spark, I just wish I could answer it!
Mike
PS: Have you considered the question of different instruments? Which ones would
more likely be favoured by a particular age or socio-economic group? If you
think about it, it's not quite as daft as it may sound.
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ssp...@webtv.net
<<If we take that as being true, it could also be fair to say
that people from different generations may have different attitudes to
discussing their lifestyle. Many older members of the community may be more
reluctant to discuss such issues, than those who are used to a more liberal and
open environment. >>
That makes sense. I hadn't considered the potential of an
older generation being less open about discussing spanking, etc.
<<What I am
getting at, is that perhaps for those who were more familiar with discipline
being the rule rather than the odd exception, such discipline in adult life may
not have such appeal.
I know when I have broached the subject with vanillas, I
have often received the response "Oh no, I had far too many spankings as a
kid.">>
Another angle I hadn't considered, but that I can definitely relate to.
I never had negative childhood images of spankings, so adult spankings have
been nothing but erotic for me.
<<Do a search on Google using the safety
filter. Yow will be surprised how many times phrases such as "Acme Company needs
a good spanking" or "Wendy Smith needs her botty smacked" used in a non spanking
context (by that I mean the article is about something other than
spanking).>>
Yes, I always get a kick out of spanking references in vanilla
context such as the ones you mentoined or a comment like "Anytown High's
football team sure got spanked by St. Christopher's" :-) !
<<Several times on
Australian television, shows such as "Sex Life" have featured interviews with
the owner of a well known Sydney B&D establishment.The segments included footage
of spanking/whipping within the establishment. The lady in question has also
appeared on panel shows.
Now these programs would certainly be targetted
towards a particular age group, and to some extent, a particular socio-economic
group.>>
That sounds likely. Hey--instead of the May sweeps we could have the
May swats :-) !
<<You presented a very good question Spark, I just wish I could
answer it! >>
Well, Mike, I think you brought up some very intriguing points!
<<PS: Have you considered the question of different instruments? Which ones
would
more likely be favoured by a particular age or socio-economic group? If
you think about it, it's not quite as daft as it may sound.>>
Sounds like a
great thread!!
Spark
P&E
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Sir James
>The majority of spankos seem to be baby boomers. Most
>spankos seem to be well-educated and professionally employed.
Without a doubt sspark, the last 3 ladies who I spanked were 42, 49,
and 49 (the info was readily given, of course I did not ask their
ages, I am a little nuts, but not that crazy). And I am meeting
another next week, guess what her age is? Yes, you guessed it ... 49,
now guess my age.... yeppers.... 49.
I think one of the major reasons why more younger people do not
participate is the fact that they are soo busy with jobs and family,
but once they become empty nesters, they look for a venue that can add
some variety to their lives.
BDSM is so stereotyped in the leather, whips and chains and many do
not go in that direction, but with spankos, we are normally dressed
(except for the brats) people who enjoy the intimacy and endorphin
rush of spanking.
Just my thoughts on a great topic
James
--As Mom always said: "If you're not handsome, at least be handy"
serijules
spankos seem to be well-educated and professionally employed. Many spankos seem
to have more refined tastes and outside interests than average. Most spankos
seem to fall into the higher end of middle income or above.>
>In a general sense, does the above profile sound right to you or do you think I'm way off?>
I agree with this observation, and certain parts of it apply to me, however, I
think im the odd one out when it comes to age. I am in my twenties...lower
twenties I might add. I have never found age to be an issue it anything, I
would be just as likely to play with someone my age as someone twice my age, and
think nothing of it. I am well-educated and own a business, but not so sure how
that fits into the whole picture.
I have always wondered though, why there are not as many in my age group that
are spankos. For Tops, I think it may be sometimes that they fear they won't
get respect from other tops because they do not have as much perceived
experiance or maturity, but I have never, ever put maturity and age together. To
me, they are completely unrelated. For bottoms, perhaps it is a fear that their
Top will look down on them as "kids" (and not in the roleplay sense).
So its an interesting concept...perhaps the younger generations, while being
more open sexually, are also not as likely to be open about their TRUE
sexuality, rather conforming to societys standards of sexuality, which doesn't
really include spanking? Of course, this doesn't appy to everyone, but nothing
applys to everyone.
just my thoughts!
xoxo
serijules
The Guv'nor
>common denominators in spankos. These characteristics seem to form a composite
>spanking profile. I base my "findings" on reading the spanking NGs, chatting
>with spankos by IM or chatroom, and r/l meetings and/or play. This is what I
>have concluded:
>
>The majority of spankos seem to be baby boomers. Most
>spankos seem to be well-educated and professionally employed. Many spankos seem
>to have more refined tastes and outside interests than average. Most spankos
>seem to fall into the higher end of middle income or above.
>
>In a general sense,
>does the above profile sound right to you or do you think I'm way off?
I have done quite a bit of research into this matter, I have analysed all my
contacts and created socio-economic profiles, personality profiles, educational
profiles and emotional and psychological profiles.
Using advanced analytical software programs, I have created various graphs and
comparitive studies to compare vast amounts of relevant data. I have done this
with the aid of a grant from The Australian Social Research Agency, and it has
taken me over a year to complete.
So in answer to your question.Maybe, maybe not.
Hope this helps
Mike
Doc Tsai
I think that most spanko tendencies come from within us. I think environment
plays a much lesser role. And I think spankos are distributed purely at random
through ages, sexes, social classes, etc. There are probable nonhomogeneities,
but I don't think it's possible to study them. So I assume total uniformity as a
first approximation.
Given that assumption, the social status of the collection of people we see
posting on newsgroups reflects primarily computer literacy and access. If there
is an age differential, though, with more middle aged people, I'm at a loss to
explain it unless it's also due to these people having more computer access at
home or (shudder) work.
It's fun to speculate on how you would do research to actually investigate these
issues. You'd have to start by agreeing on a definition for "spanko," everything
else would depend on that.
ssp...@webtv.net
<<It's
fun to speculate on how you would do research to actually investigate these
issues. You'd have to start by agreeing on a definition for "spanko,"
everything
else would depend on that.>>
Well, if there is going to be any
"hands-on" research, I volunteer. Purely in the name of science, of course
:-).
redho...@yahoo.com
>I do agree, to some extent, with the "baby boomer" characterization.
I agree completely and I would add "baby boomer" and older.
>I wonder how many Generation X-ers will be spankos, for the simple reason
>that the twenty-somethings could easily have come of age without ever
>having been spanked, seen anyone spanked, or heard of anyone being spanked.
My guess would be far fewer than in preceding generations and for precisely
those reasons.
A seed needs water if it is to grow.
I'll give you an example, the women we hire to star in our vids are virtually
all twenty-somethings and the vast majority of them don't have a clue what a
real spanking is all about. Indeed, many of them don't know what *any* kind of
spanking is about. Keep in mind our models are not naive by any stretch of the
imagination. Plenty of them have done everything from Hustler magazine to
bondage videos and all of them are in the business of cashing in on their looks.
These 'girls' know their way around the block and yet most of them have never
been spanked. More tellingly in many instances it's because they've never met
anyone who wanted to spank them.
>Without the stimuli of real or hinted-at spankings, could the "gene" be
>as easily activated?
For every three never before spanked women who leave our premises red bottomed,
teary eyed and muttering obscenities a fourth will say: "Hey, that was fun!!"
>As to the intelligence/income/education factor...well, don't forget that
>most of our spanko acquaintances are PC users. I doubt I would ever have >communicated so openly with other spankos without the PC. There may be
>just as many uneducated, unintelligent, lower-income spankos out there,
>they just haven't gone online yet.
I agree. My guess is that the "69" position is as popular in your average
trailer park as it is in Beverly Hills. I can't see why it would be any
different with spanking.
Greg
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<YXtM6.3677$6j3.3...@www.newsranger.com>, redho...@yahoo.com says:
>
>Michele says...
>
>>I do agree, to some extent, with the "baby boomer" characterization.
>
>I agree completely and I would add "baby boomer" and older.
>
>>I wonder how many Generation X-ers will be spankos, for the simple reason
>>that the twenty-somethings could easily have come of age without ever
>>having been spanked, seen anyone spanked, or heard of anyone being spanked.
>
>My guess would be far fewer than in preceding generations and for precisely
>those reasons.
>
>A seed needs water if it is to grow.
>
>I'll give you an example, the women we hire to star in our vids are virtually
>all twenty-somethings and the vast majority of them don't have a clue what a
>real spanking is all about. Indeed, many of them don't know what *any* kind of
>spanking is about. Keep in mind our models are not naive by any stretch of the
>imagination. Plenty of them have done everything from Hustler magazine to
>bondage videos and all of them are in the business of cashing in on their looks.
>These 'girls' know their way around the block and yet most of them have never
>been spanked. More tellingly in many instances it's because they've never met
>anyone who wanted to spank them.
We do have a few younger spankos around, on this group and elsewhere, but when I
dropped my reference to the 'demographic' last week, whenever, it was with this
idea in mind. Not the idea that we were all well-educated, etc., but that the
age group is typically older in RL gatherings, and that this age distribution
presumably is reflected online too.
So, I guess we have a crusade on our hands, huh? Obviously, Greg is doing what
he can to help, but let's all play our part...tops, bottoms and switches, do
your duty, LOL.
/Spray