Re: Sun Studio 12 update 1 early access program
Larry Gates
> On Mar 18, 9:27 am, nos...@see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote:
>> Larry Gates <la...@example.invalid> wrote:
>>> I like you enough to tell you that the Ricahrd Maine of whatever ng
>>> opensolaris is told me that sun studio 12 will only be trouble with my
>>> setup (middle of the road, amd, 64 bit processor, 32 bit xp on the windows
>>> partition).
[x-posted to alt.solaris.x86]
I don't see the fella in this ng that I was thinking of. It looks like
activity is kind of low.
By the arbitrary Richard I meant at least
1) a person of large experience with the meat and potatoes of the ng
2) writes extended expositions
3) is generally available
> I have known Richard Maine for more than 20 years. While
> we sometimes have sharp disagreements, I regard him as a
> friend.
>
> Neither Sun Studio 12 nor Sun Studio 12 update 1 are of
> any use on a 32-bit Windows XP system. Neither of them
> support 32-bit Windows running on 64-bit processors. If
> demand develops for Sun Fortran on Windows, we might do
> a Windows port. So far, the greatest demand for a
> port to another OS has not been for a Windows port.
>
> Bob Corbett
I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio
12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had
from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the
revision numbers change often).
Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
--
larry gates
...a Lazy has to be aware of when it is out of values, and when it should
call into some meta-Lazy for more iterator values. And I suppose that
meta-Lazy could in turn have a meta-meta-Lazy, which could have a
meta-meta-meta-Lazy, and now my brane hurts. -- Larry Wall
robert....@sun.com
> I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio
> 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
>
> What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had
> from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the
> revision numbers change often).
>
> Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
I am not clear on what you are saying. When you say you
have a Sun partition, do you mean you are dual booting
Solaris or Linux and Windows? If so, SS12 and SS12u1
should both work under Solaris and the most popular
Linuxes. SS12 might not work with the most recent
Linuxes, while SS12u1 might not work with the older
Linuxes.
Bob Corbett
Ian Collins
>
> I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio
> 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
>
> What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had
> from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the
> revision numbers change often).
>
> Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
What are you blithering on about? Just read the release notes. The
product would be bugger all use if they didn't.
--
Ian Collins
Larry Gates
5 sentences of "blithering." I'm no stranger to Ian's pejoratives.
That's alright, because I can hoop.
Would the release notes on opensolaris have been as sunny as you
prognosticate?
--
Frank
I think some people hold [G.W.Bush] in high esteem because they watch Fox.
And they get their news from Rush Limbaugh. And they are fooled.
~~ Al Franken, in response to the 2004 SOTU address
Paul Floyd
>
> I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio
> 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
>
> What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had
> from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the
> revision numbers change often).
As already said, rather than listening to what "this guy was telling
[you]", why didn't you try to find out for yourself?
> Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
What do you think Sun uses (mostly) for developing (Open)Solaris?
To give you a helping hand, google for "Sun Studio Support Matrix". If
you want to use Sun Studio on OpenSolaris rather than Solaris, you
should be aware that OpenSolaris is the 'development' version and may
occasionally have problems, whilst Solaris will be more stable.
A bientot
Paul
--
Paul Floyd http://paulf.free.fr
Franken Sense
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:53:59 -0700, Larry Gates <la...@example.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio
>> 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
>>
>> What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had
>> from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the
>> revision numbers change often).
>
> As already said, rather than listening to what "this guy was telling
> [you]", why didn't you try to find out for yourself?
Googling is useless for this without antecedent and specific notions of
what I'm looking for.
>
>> Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
>
> What do you think Sun uses (mostly) for developing (Open)Solaris?
>
> To give you a helping hand, google for "Sun Studio Support Matrix". If
> you want to use Sun Studio on OpenSolaris rather than Solaris, you
> should be aware that OpenSolaris is the 'development' version and may
> occasionally have problems, whilst Solaris will be more stable.
>
> A bientot
> Paul
That's the lesson I took away from my last foray into this stuff. It
required that I burn a disc, which means that I had to rely on a friend to
do so, so it's not a casual thing.
http://developers.sun.com/sunstudio/support/matrix/index.jsp
Again, there's a bunch of version numbers there but not the general notion
that SS12 on opensolaris will not behave. The obvious fix is to go with
Solaris instead, but I found that quite disappointing after I'd already had
my buddy burn the disc for me.
The finalizer was when I had to re-install windows, and it ran roughshod
over everything else I had going. Back to square one.
--
Frank
I do personal attacks only on people who specialize in personal attacks..
~~ Al Franken, Playboy interview
Paul Floyd
>
> http://developers.sun.com/sunstudio/support/matrix/index.jsp
>
> Again, there's a bunch of version numbers there but not the general notion
> that SS12 on opensolaris will not behave. The obvious fix is to go with
> Solaris instead, but I found that quite disappointing after I'd already had
> my buddy burn the disc for me.
You need to either find some authoritative source like the above web
page or get some proof of the pudding. Hearsay and "general notions"
aren't going to prove anything.
I just googled for "compiler opensolaris". The first hit was
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/tools/sun_studio_tools/
It seems that Sun Studio 12 is required to build ON 100 and later.
I'm certain that OpenSolaris is capable of a self-hosting build.
user1
>
> Again, there's a bunch of version numbers there but not the general notion
> that SS12 on opensolaris will not behave. The obvious fix is to go with
> Solaris instead, but I found that quite disappointing after I'd already had
> my buddy burn the disc for me.
>
I have Ubuntu Linux (+ Sun Studio ) dual booting with WinXP on a
couple of machines.
I've done a couple of experimental installs of opensolaris, and find
no reason to prefer it to a linux install. In fact, it appears to be
more sluggish than one of the Ubuntu variations, although it has a
similar look.
Paul Floyd
Of course, there's more to it than just speed and desktop eye candy.
One thing I like in Solaris is reliability, standards conformance and
[interface] stability. It's my impression that GNU/Linux developers will
willingly sacrifice these for extra speed or features.
YMMV of course.
Franken Sense
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:39:41 -0700 (PDT), user1 <bobk...@gmail.com> wrote:
I didn't undertsand that there was a difference between S and OS. I must
say, I was attracted to the one named OS, on which SS12 did not work on my
system.
I've gotten over that disappointment and know, now, how to start over
properly.
The bigger question for me is how to keep the boot process safe from
windows, in particular, upon re-installation of windows.
--
Frank
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They're about getting ratings, about making money, about doing stories that
are easy to cover.
~~ Al Franken,