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sarat

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Aug 27, 2008, 4:44:40 PM8/27/08
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Hi all,
This is a strange problem. Please help me as i don't know what to do
or why its happening.
System config:
Intel Du Core : 2Ghtz
RAM: 1GB
Intel Chipset
80G Seagate HDD
I have installed Windows XP SP2 on Primary Dos Partition 20G.
installation successful
Now I tried to install solaris. I selected interactive startup and it
recognized my kdm and i created slices in this manner
Selected Entire Distribution

Created Solaris partition of 20GB
/ - 1G
/usr - 5G
swap 2G
left the remaining space
This installation was damn slow and after waiting for 20 hours it did
not load. Not sure what was the error message when the system
restarted automatically but when i tried to restart without cd in. it
gave blank screen.

Tried installation again and same

NOW,

Tried again selecting the 4th option of installation and went through.
This one was installing at hell of a speed until it reached 20% appx
after completing 700mb and it restarted automatically. Though I
selected restart manually and auto eject( cd did not eject as well)
Tried again with exact same result.


Please help me on how to install solaris 10 on my computer. I'm using
DVD install disk.

regards,
sarat

Dave Uhring

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Aug 27, 2008, 5:09:43 PM8/27/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:44:40 -0700, sarat wrote:

> Selected Entire Distribution
>
> Created Solaris partition of 20GB
> / - 1G
> /usr - 5G
> swap 2G

Better, specially for a first timer, to allocate the entire space
available after sizing swap as one, single / partition.

> Tried again selecting the 4th option of installation and went through.
> This one was installing at hell of a speed until it reached 20% appx
> after completing 700mb and it restarted automatically. Though I selected
> restart manually and auto eject( cd did not eject as well) Tried again
> with exact same result.

The installation requires substantial space in /opt and /var, which with
your little 1 GB / partition rapidly uses up available space.

Ian Collins

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Aug 28, 2008, 2:01:34 AM8/28/08
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Dave Uhring wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:44:40 -0700, sarat wrote:
>
>> Selected Entire Distribution
>>
>> Created Solaris partition of 20GB
>> / - 1G
>> /usr - 5G
>> swap 2G
>
> Better, specially for a first timer, to allocate the entire space
> available after sizing swap as one, single / partition.
>
Better still if Solaris 10 isn't required, use OpenSolaris and get ZFS
boot. No more slices to worry about.

--
Ian Collins.

sarat

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Aug 28, 2008, 4:47:23 PM8/28/08
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ZFS is not actually required for my disk of 80GB i believe. I think ur
talking about GRUB boot loader.

sarat

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Aug 28, 2008, 4:55:58 PM8/28/08
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hi dave, So could you please suggest how much space should i keep for
root. Coz i want to create a seperate slice for / and /usr and
thought i will create slices for /var and /opt seperately after
installation

Dave Uhring

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Aug 28, 2008, 4:58:13 PM8/28/08
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:47:23 -0700, sarat wrote:
> On Aug 28, 7:01 am, Ian Collins <ian-n...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Better still if Solaris 10 isn't required, use OpenSolaris and get ZFS
>> boot.  No more slices to worry about.

> ZFS is not actually required for my disk of 80GB i believe. I think ur


> talking about GRUB boot loader.

ZFS is not "required" for Solaris or Solaris Express, but if you install
OpenSolaris your Solaris partition will be ZFS and you have the option of
installing Solaris Express (recent releases) using ZFS. It is called "ZFS
boot" because your boot disk is ZFS, regardless of its capacity.

This particular system has OpenSolaris installed in a 27 GB partition.

$ head -1 /etc/release
OpenSolaris 2008.11 snv_95 X86

Dave Uhring

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Aug 28, 2008, 6:59:30 PM8/28/08
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Solaris 10 has filesystem logging enabled by default. There is no good
reason for creating separate partitions. You are attempting to create
problems for yourself, specially with the tiny amount of disk space you
have allocated for Solaris.

Dave Uhring

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Aug 28, 2008, 7:34:52 PM8/28/08
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:59:30 -0500, Dave Uhring wrote:

> Solaris 10 has filesystem logging enabled by default. There is no good
> reason for creating separate partitions. You are attempting to create
> problems for yourself, specially with the tiny amount of disk space you
> have allocated for Solaris.

Just FYI, here is the usage on one Solaris 10 u5 amd64 system from du -sk
executed in /:

1 bin
76299 boot
1 cdrom
428 dev
118 devices
70078 etc
357322 export
0 home
91635 kernel
25269 lib
8 lost+found
0 net
599410 opt <== I don't even have the Studio 12 compiler installed
33396 platform
2427579 proc <== not actually disk space used
1606 sbin
6351 system
32 tmp
2883180 usr
4354712 var
0 vol

Note that /var will keep growing as patches are applied.

hume.sp...@bofh.ca

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Aug 28, 2008, 8:34:40 PM8/28/08
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sarat <sara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> root. Coz i want to create a seperate slice for / and /usr and
> thought i will create slices for /var and /opt seperately after

There are reasonable conditions for chunking up filesystems like that,
particularly /var... but none of them really apply to a person just
learning on a personal workstation. (And like Ian said, ZFS will make
it ALL pointless...)

Give slice 1 (swap) a capacity of roughly equal to your RAM size or 1G,
whichever is greater. Give all the rest of the disk to /.

--
Brandon Hume - hume -> BOFH.Ca, http://WWW.BOFH.Ca/

Canuck57

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Aug 28, 2008, 8:36:54 PM8/28/08
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"sarat" <sara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4ac764d2-9827-4d11...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

Having /usr, /opt and / in different file systems today is counter
productive, it is legacy to do so.

For workstations, development I use:

/
swap (1-2 times physical memory)
(nothing more unless SAN/3-8disks quantity is required, then /apps)

For servers I make a choice. I actually might go with the workstation in
some circumstances but very often go this way:

/
swap (1-2 times physical memory, adjusted based on development)
/var
/apps (where applications go, and may have more underneath)

Root / gets all the primary disk space not used by swap. Period. I tend
not to share that with applications where I have more than 2 disks (*always
mirror root). If an application is tame like DNS/Bind, I will share root or
/var. But if a 5TB DN I tend not to share, not even logs/redo. I never put
the / or /var on externally attached disk unless there is no other option.
More than once I have had to troubleshot a FC SAN issue and it has been
instrumental in getting the SAN people to come around.


Andrew Gabriel

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Aug 29, 2008, 5:08:28 AM8/29/08
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In article <4ac764d2-9827-4d11...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,

sarat <sara...@gmail.com> writes:
> hi dave, So could you please suggest how much space should i keep for
> root. Coz i want to create a seperate slice for / and /usr and

Why?

> thought i will create slices for /var and /opt seperately after
> installation

Why?

If you have some specific reason for doing this, you'll
have to say what it is. Otherwise, we're trying to answer
questions without having relevant information.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Ian Collins

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Aug 29, 2008, 5:13:16 AM8/29/08
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sarat wrote:
> On Aug 28, 7:01 am, Ian Collins <ian-n...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Dave Uhring wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:44:40 -0700, sarat wrote:
>>>> Selected Entire Distribution
>>>> Created Solaris partition of 20GB
>>>> / - 1G
>>>> /usr - 5G
>>>> swap 2G
>>> Better, specially for a first timer, to allocate the entire space
>>> available after sizing swap as one, single / partition.
>> Better still if Solaris 10 isn't required, use OpenSolaris and get ZFS
>> boot. No more slices to worry about.
>>
>
> ZFS is not actually required for my disk of 80GB i believe. I think ur
> talking about GRUB boot loader.

No I'm not (who's this 'ur' bloke?).

ZFS is never required (well OK, it is for Sun's OpenSolaris
distribution) but its much easier to manage. My laptop has an 80GB
drive and it certainly uses ZFS boot.

--
Ian Collins.

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