I have an old Dell 500SC which has been running Sol 10 perfectly for quite a while. I've performed a standard upgrade a few times without problems and it's currently running a fully patched 08/07. However, when I try to boot off the 05/08 DVD (which boots fine in a VMware machine), it gets past the grub screen and tries to load the kernel off the DVD and hangs at the license line. With verbosity, the last line I get is:
using default device instance data
I've tried the user-acpi-options settings and disabling everything likely in the BIOS but no luck - it always hangs at the same place. Any ideas?
In article <2384ae16-80e7-4374-847f-6379cfca7...@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
philkime <Phi...@kime.org.uk> wrote: >I have an old Dell 500SC which has been running Sol 10 perfectly for >quite a while. I've performed a standard upgrade a few times without >problems and it's currently running a fully patched 08/07. However, >when I try to boot off the 05/08 DVD (which boots fine in a VMware >machine), it gets past the grub screen and tries to load the kernel >off the DVD and hangs at the license line. With verbosity, the last
I just hung a Pentium 3 test machine at the same place after applying 127128-11 released yesterday, which I believe is integrated with S10 5/08.
Added the patch to the ignore list in PCA's pca.conf until its withdrawn.
On Apr 29, 8:27 pm, groen...@cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) wrote:
> I just hung a Pentium 3 test machine at the same place after applying > 127128-11 released yesterday, which I believe is integrated with > S10 5/08.
> Added the patch to the ignore list in PCA's pca.conf until its > withdrawn.
Hmm, in that case I need to make a new miniroot for the DVD without this patch? I only have one SOL10 machine so I can't do anything with flars etc. Disks aren't set up for LIveUpgrade either - has to be DVD.
> In article <2384ae16-80e7-4374-847f-6379cfca7...@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, > philkime <Phi...@kime.org.uk> wrote: >>I have an old Dell 500SC which has been running Sol 10 perfectly for >>quite a while. I've performed a standard upgrade a few times without >>problems and it's currently running a fully patched 08/07. However, >>when I try to boot off the 05/08 DVD (which boots fine in a VMware >>machine), it gets past the grub screen and tries to load the kernel >>off the DVD and hangs at the license line. With verbosity, the last
> I just hung a Pentium 3 test machine at the same place after applying > 127128-11 released yesterday, which I believe is integrated with > S10 5/08.
> Added the patch to the ignore list in PCA's pca.conf until its > withdrawn.
I doubt that this is kernel itself. I have a similar problem with 2xCPU old machine that I reported several days ago to the list. It hangs at the same place when booted from the DVD.
But, the 127128-11 kernel boots fine from the hard drive.
In article <87r6cn1wlt....@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>, Kostik Belousov <konstantin.belou...@zoral.com.ua> wrote:
>I doubt that this is kernel itself. I have a similar problem with >2xCPU old machine that I reported several days ago to the list. >It hangs at the same place when booted from the DVD.
>But, the 127128-11 kernel boots fine from the hard drive.
When I patchrm 127128-11 from my dual socket P3 (an ASUS CUV4X-DLS) it boots.
But 127128-11 is queer: it will only apply in single-user mode.
Hopefully someone with more time will file a service order.
On Apr 29, 9:28 pm, philkime <Phi...@kime.org.uk> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 8:27 pm, groen...@cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) wrote: > > I just hung a Pentium 3 test machine at the same place after applying > > 127128-11 released yesterday, which I believe is integrated with > > S10 5/08. > > Added the patch to the ignore list in PCA's pca.conf until its > > withdrawn.
But its the "new" kernel on the DVD right? so....
> Hmm, in that case I need to make a new miniroot for the DVD without > this patch? I only have one SOL10 machine so I can't do anything with > flars etc. Disks aren't set up for LIveUpgrade either - has to be DVD.
Have a look at the 14 NOTEs for this kernel patch. It might help. Otherwise it would seem that you stuck with patching update 4 for now. The changes in Update 5 may have little relevance to an older machine anyway?? So no biggie.
In article <5968f57a-26bd-4be0-9852-b179b8df2...@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
<usenetpersonger...@gmail.com> wrote: >Otherwise it would seem that you stuck with patching update 4 for now.
Yes.
>The changes in Update 5 may have little relevance to an older machine >anyway?? >So no biggie.
No biggie for existing Solaris 10 customers with supported, legacy Pentium 3 hardware, at least until Sun starts shipping S10 patches which depend on 127128.
Big biggie for new customers with supported, legacy Pentium 3 hardware.
But I see that Intel is giving a keynote at JavaONE so may be Anil Gadre and company has decided to leave it to Intel and AMD to make the case to moving to Sun's modern x64 systems. <URL:http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-04/sunflash.20080416.2.xml>
On Apr 30, 8:32 am, groen...@cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) wrote:
> In article <5968f57a-26bd-4be0-9852-b179b8df2...@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, > <usenetpersonger...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Otherwise it would seem that you stuck with patching update 4 for now. > Yes. > >The changes in Update 5 may have little relevance to an older machine > >anyway?? > >So no biggie. > No biggie for existing Solaris 10 customers with supported, legacy > Pentium 3 hardware, at least until Sun starts shipping S10 patches which > depend on 127128.
That "depends" on whether the Installation Notes have workarounds already.. : > One workaround (boot in 32 bit mode) can be attempted surely.
> Big biggie for new customers with supported, legacy Pentium 3 hardware.
Whats been added to Update 5 that something this ancient would use I wonder?
> Any sign of a BugID yet?
If the workarounds work then there isnt really a bug.
usenetpersonger...@gmail.com wrote: > On Apr 30, 8:32 am, groen...@cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) wrote: >> In article <5968f57a-26bd-4be0-9852-b179b8df2...@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, >> <usenetpersonger...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Otherwise it would seem that you stuck with patching update 4 for now. >> Yes. >>> The changes in Update 5 may have little relevance to an older machine >>> anyway?? >>> So no biggie. >> No biggie for existing Solaris 10 customers with supported, legacy >> Pentium 3 hardware, at least until Sun starts shipping S10 patches which >> depend on 127128.
> That "depends" on whether the Installation Notes have workarounds > already.. : > > One workaround (boot in 32 bit mode) can be attempted surely.
On a P3? You don't have any other choice!
Maybe it's a ruse to make sure people plan for LU...
I have a tricky problem now. I wanted to see if 127128-11 would apply and it did but it is certainly the culprit and the machine no longer boots, hanging at the same place as the 05/08 install DVD.
So, I booted into failsafe to remove the patch but it won't remove since of course it can't start the non-global zone I have on there. So, I tried the -G flag to patchrm but of course, the patch included packages with the ALLZONES flag set so it won't work with the -G flag. Catch-22.
Any ideas?
I did split the root mirror before I applied it but I cannot for the life of me work out how to get the machine to boot of the other disk with grub.
> In article > <2384ae16-80e7-4374-847f-6379cfca7...@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, > philkime <Phi...@kime.org.uk> wrote: >>I have an old Dell 500SC which has been running Sol 10 perfectly for >>quite a while. I've performed a standard upgrade a few times without >>problems and it's currently running a fully patched 08/07. However, >>when I try to boot off the 05/08 DVD (which boots fine in a VMware >>machine), it gets past the grub screen and tries to load the kernel >>off the DVD and hangs at the license line. With verbosity, the last
> I just hung a Pentium 3 test machine at the same place after > applying 127128-11 released yesterday, which I believe is integrated > with S10 5/08.
I've just hung up my Pentium 3 box after patching to 127128-11. Previously it was U4 with a rather recent patch cluster. I've called up USA4SUN to see what they have to say about it.
I'll post my results here, when I have something.
-- -TimS
Tim Stewart Lead UNIX Systems Administrator Ciena Corporation Alpharetta, GA, USA tstew...@ciena.com
Tim Stewart <tstew...@ciena.com> writes: > groen...@cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld) writes:
>> In article >> <2384ae16-80e7-4374-847f-6379cfca7...@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, >> philkime <Phi...@kime.org.uk> wrote: >>>I have an old Dell 500SC which has been running Sol 10 perfectly for >>>quite a while. I've performed a standard upgrade a few times without >>>problems and it's currently running a fully patched 08/07. However, >>>when I try to boot off the 05/08 DVD (which boots fine in a VMware >>>machine), it gets past the grub screen and tries to load the kernel >>>off the DVD and hangs at the license line. With verbosity, the last
>> I just hung a Pentium 3 test machine at the same place after >> applying 127128-11 released yesterday, which I believe is integrated >> with S10 5/08.
> I've just hung up my Pentium 3 box after patching to 127128-11. > Previously it was U4 with a rather recent patch cluster. I've called > up USA4SUN to see what they have to say about it.
> I'll post my results here, when I have something.
I called USA4SUN and they suggested a workaround that works on my system. Append `-kd' to the kernel line in GRUB to enter kmdb upon boot, and type `cmi_no_init/W1', and then `:c' - example listed below:
Loading kmdb...
Welcome to kmdb kmdb: unable to determine terminal type: assuming `vt100' [0]> cmi_no_init/W1 cmi_no_init: 0 = 0x1 [0]> :c SunOS Release 5.10 Version Generic_127128-11 32-bit Copyright 1983-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Hostname: bitbox ...
Everything seems to be functioning on this system. The case is still open with Sun and I'm going to give them as much information as I can to help them debug.
I'll post more news as I find it.
-- -TimS
Tim Stewart Lead UNIX Systems Administrator Ciena Corporation Alpharetta, GA, USA tstew...@ciena.com
> I called USA4SUN and they suggested a workaround that works on my > system. Append `-kd' to the kernel line in GRUB to enter kmdb upon > boot, and type `cmi_no_init/W1', and then `:c' - example listed below:
> Loading kmdb...
> Welcome to kmdb > kmdb: unable to determine terminal type: assuming `vt100' > [0]> cmi_no_init/W1 > cmi_no_init: 0 = 0x1 > [0]> :c > SunOS Release 5.10 Version Generic_127128-11 32-bit > Copyright 1983-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. > Use is subject to license terms. > Hostname: bitbox > ...
> Everything seems to be functioning on this system. The case is still > open with Sun and I'm going to give them as much information as I can > to help them debug.
> I'll post more news as I find it.
You could make that change permanent by adding following to /etc/system once you get the system up:
set cmi_no_init=1
-- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) writes: > You could make that change permanent by adding following to > /etc/system once you get the system up:
> set cmi_no_init=1
Great, I'll do that. Thanks!
-- -TimS
Tim Stewart Lead UNIX Systems Administrator Ciena Corporation Alpharetta, GA, USA tstew...@ciena.com
In article <87lk2tnw5p....@thinko.stoo.org>, Tim Stewart <tstew...@ciena.com> wrote:
>> I've just hung up my Pentium 3 box after patching to 127128-11. >> Previously it was U4 with a rather recent patch cluster. I've called >> up USA4SUN to see what they have to say about it.
>> I'll post my results here, when I have something.
>I called USA4SUN and they suggested a workaround that works on my >system. Append `-kd' to the kernel line in GRUB to enter kmdb upon
Thank you very much for filing a service order on this bug!
On May 2, 1:52 am, and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
> You could make that change permanent by adding following to /etc/system > once you get the system up:
> set cmi_no_init=1
I decided to do this properly and set up a LU environment on a mirrored pair of slices. I then upgraded this to 05/08 and it hung as expected due to 127128-11. Using kmdb as described, it booted and after adding the above to /etc/system, it booted without problems. Many thanks to all concerned. I am not sure what impact disabling the CPU feature init has but I can't see anything noticeable so far. I also wanted to point out that LU upgrades to 05/08 require patch 137322-01 (x86) first otherwise the upgrade will report that 600+ packages failed to install because they are in an updated bzip format which this patch provides. That caught me the first time I did the upgrade. It is in the release notes for 05/08 but not in a particularly obvious place.
> I called USA4SUN and they suggested a workaround that works on my > system. Append `-kd' to the kernel line in GRUB to enter kmdb upon > boot, and type `cmi_no_init/W1', and then `:c' - example listed below:
> Loading kmdb...
> Welcome to kmdb > kmdb: unable to determine terminal type: assuming `vt100' > [0]>cmi_no_init/W1 > cmi_no_init: 0 = 0x1 > [0]> :c > SunOS Release 5.10 Version Generic_127128-11 32-bit > Copyright 1983-2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. > Use is subject to license terms. > Hostname: bitbox > ...
Thanks. This fixed the hang on boot issue for me after 127128-11. My box is Dell Optiplex GX150 - Pentium III.
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