On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:48:31 -0700 (PDT), robert.corb...@sun.com wrote: > On Mar 18, 9:27 am, nos...@see.signature (Richard Maine) wrote: >> Larry Gates <la...@example.invalid> wrote: >>> I like you enough to tell you that the Ricahrd Maine of whatever ng >>> opensolaris is told me that sun studio 12 will only be trouble with my >>> setup (middle of the road, amd, 64 bit processor, 32 bit xp on the windows >>> partition).
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I don't see the fella in this ng that I was thinking of. It looks like activity is kind of low.
By the arbitrary Richard I meant at least 1) a person of large experience with the meat and potatoes of the ng 2) writes extended expositions 3) is generally available
> I have known Richard Maine for more than 20 years. While > we sometimes have sharp disagreements, I regard him as a > friend.
> Neither Sun Studio 12 nor Sun Studio 12 update 1 are of > any use on a 32-bit Windows XP system. Neither of them > support 32-bit Windows running on 64-bit processors. If > demand develops for Sun Fortran on Windows, we might do > a Windows port. So far, the greatest demand for a > port to another OS has not been for a Windows port.
> Bob Corbett
I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the revision numbers change often).
Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine? -- larry gates
...a Lazy has to be aware of when it is out of values, and when it should call into some meta-Lazy for more iterator values. And I suppose that meta-Lazy could in turn have a meta-meta-Lazy, which could have a meta-meta-meta-Lazy, and now my brane hurts. -- Larry Wall
On Mar 19, 12:53 pm, Larry Gates <la...@example.invalid> wrote:
> I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio > 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
> What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had > from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the > revision numbers change often).
> Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
I am not clear on what you are saying. When you say you have a Sun partition, do you mean you are dual booting Solaris or Linux and Windows? If so, SS12 and SS12u1 should both work under Solaris and the most popular Linuxes. SS12 might not work with the most recent Linuxes, while SS12u1 might not work with the older Linuxes.
> I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio > 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
> What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had > from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the > revision numbers change often).
> Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
What are you blithering on about? Just read the release notes. The product would be bugger all use if they didn't.
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:09:56 +1300, Ian Collins wrote: > Larry Gates wrote:
>> I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio >> 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
>> What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had >> from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the >> revision numbers change often).
>> Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
> What are you blithering on about? Just read the release notes. The > product would be bugger all use if they didn't.
5 sentences of "blithering." I'm no stranger to Ian's pejoratives.
That's alright, because I can hoop.
Would the release notes on opensolaris have been as sunny as you prognosticate? -- Frank
I think some people hold [G.W.Bush] in high esteem because they watch Fox. And they get their news from Rush Limbaugh. And they are fooled. ~~ Al Franken, in response to the 2004 SOTU address
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:53:59 -0700, Larry Gates <la...@example.invalid> wrote:
> I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio > 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
> What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had > from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the > revision numbers change often).
As already said, rather than listening to what "this guy was telling [you]", why didn't you try to find out for yourself?
> Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
What do you think Sun uses (mostly) for developing (Open)Solaris?
To give you a helping hand, google for "Sun Studio Support Matrix". If you want to use Sun Studio on OpenSolaris rather than Solaris, you should be aware that OpenSolaris is the 'development' version and may occasionally have problems, whilst Solaris will be more stable.
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> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:53:59 -0700, Larry Gates <la...@example.invalid> wrote:
>> I had a sun partition. I knew windows couldn't do anything with sun studio >> 12 and wanted it for a couple reasons including a c99 capability.
>> What this guy was telling me was the ss12 wouldn't work on the OS I had >> from Sun. There seems to be a lot of revisions going on at sun (the >> revision numbers change often).
> As already said, rather than listening to what "this guy was telling > [you]", why didn't you try to find out for yourself?
Googling is useless for this without antecedent and specific notions of what I'm looking for.
>> Do they have an OS that can run ss12 on an amd 64 bit machine?
> What do you think Sun uses (mostly) for developing (Open)Solaris?
> To give you a helping hand, google for "Sun Studio Support Matrix". If > you want to use Sun Studio on OpenSolaris rather than Solaris, you > should be aware that OpenSolaris is the 'development' version and may > occasionally have problems, whilst Solaris will be more stable.
> A bientot > Paul
That's the lesson I took away from my last foray into this stuff. It required that I burn a disc, which means that I had to rely on a friend to do so, so it's not a casual thing.
Again, there's a bunch of version numbers there but not the general notion that SS12 on opensolaris will not behave. The obvious fix is to go with Solaris instead, but I found that quite disappointing after I'd already had my buddy burn the disc for me.
The finalizer was when I had to re-install windows, and it ran roughshod over everything else I had going. Back to square one. -- Frank
I do personal attacks only on people who specialize in personal attacks.. ~~ Al Franken, Playboy interview
> Again, there's a bunch of version numbers there but not the general notion > that SS12 on opensolaris will not behave. The obvious fix is to go with > Solaris instead, but I found that quite disappointing after I'd already had > my buddy burn the disc for me.
You need to either find some authoritative source like the above web page or get some proof of the pudding. Hearsay and "general notions" aren't going to prove anything.
I just googled for "compiler opensolaris". The first hit was
On Mar 22, 10:34 pm, Franken Sense <fr...@example.invalid> wrote:
> Again, there's a bunch of version numbers there but not the general notion > that SS12 on opensolaris will not behave. The obvious fix is to go with > Solaris instead, but I found that quite disappointing after I'd already had > my buddy burn the disc for me.
I have Ubuntu Linux (+ Sun Studio ) dual booting with WinXP on a couple of machines.
I've done a couple of experimental installs of opensolaris, and find no reason to prefer it to a linux install. In fact, it appears to be more sluggish than one of the Ubuntu variations, although it has a similar look.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:39:41 -0700 (PDT), user1 <bobk1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 22, 10:34 pm, Franken Sense <fr...@example.invalid> wrote:
>> Again, there's a bunch of version numbers there but not the general notion >> that SS12 on opensolaris will not behave. The obvious fix is to go with >> Solaris instead, but I found that quite disappointing after I'd already had >> my buddy burn the disc for me.
> I have Ubuntu Linux (+ Sun Studio ) dual booting with WinXP on a > couple of machines.
> I've done a couple of experimental installs of opensolaris, and find > no reason to prefer it to a linux install. In fact, it appears to be > more sluggish than one of the Ubuntu variations, although it has a > similar look.
Of course, there's more to it than just speed and desktop eye candy.
One thing I like in Solaris is reliability, standards conformance and [interface] stability. It's my impression that GNU/Linux developers will willingly sacrifice these for extra speed or features.
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:39:41 -0700 (PDT), user1 <bobk1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mar 22, 10:34 pm, Franken Sense <fr...@example.invalid> wrote:
>>> Again, there's a bunch of version numbers there but not the general notion >>> that SS12 on opensolaris will not behave. The obvious fix is to go with >>> Solaris instead, but I found that quite disappointing after I'd already had >>> my buddy burn the disc for me.
>> I have Ubuntu Linux (+ Sun Studio ) dual booting with WinXP on a >> couple of machines.
>> I've done a couple of experimental installs of opensolaris, and find >> no reason to prefer it to a linux install. In fact, it appears to be >> more sluggish than one of the Ubuntu variations, although it has a >> similar look.
> Of course, there's more to it than just speed and desktop eye candy.
> One thing I like in Solaris is reliability, standards conformance and > [interface] stability. It's my impression that GNU/Linux developers will > willingly sacrifice these for extra speed or features.
> YMMV of course.
> A bientot > Paul
I didn't undertsand that there was a difference between S and OS. I must say, I was attracted to the one named OS, on which SS12 did not work on my system.
I've gotten over that disappointment and know, now, how to start over properly.
The bigger question for me is how to keep the boot process safe from windows, in particular, upon re-installation of windows. -- Frank
The biases the media has are much bigger than conservative or liberal. They're about getting ratings, about making money, about doing stories that are easy to cover. ~~ Al Franken,
