Past Postings.
John F. Winston
Here is some information about Noah's Ark, a subject that I have
spent quite a bit of time investigating. I have a friend by the
name of Dr. Patton who plans to make a trip over there in the future
to try to find it. If I can find his e-mail address again maybe
I'll send him this information. I've also been sent a lot of
information about Burrow's Cave but it seems to be lost for the
present time.
.....................................................................
.....................................................................
From: M
Subject: From Burrows Cave .. to .. The Ark of Ziusudra
Hi Y'all!
Glenn Kimball - Ancient Manuscript Historian has returned from his
Seattle appearance and the first public display of the artifacts
from Burrows cave and is anticipating a rescheduling of the cave
opening in the upcoming weeks.
Update and future photos at:
http://www.seattlechatclub.org
C..
Thanks for this update.
While I'm thinking of it, here ... I am TOTALLY convinced that
there are another "extremely important" (to say the very least)
archaeological site .. that is available for public viewing NOW ..
and has been 'open' to the world public for years now.
In fact .. I figured-out the EXACT "ASM" coordinates .. latitude
and longitude ..for 2 points at the site .. 2 points which
mathematically correlate in a very important way. (Morton, 2000,
Internet).
I refer to the remains of the so-called .. "Noah's Ark".
I call it "The Ark of Ziusudra" .. or ... ZI.U.SUD.RA. ...
pre-Sumerian King.
The remains of this vessel .. are located in Eastern Turkey ..
to the southwest of the peak of Mt. Ararat.
The site was actually_dedicated_in the late 1980s .. as a national
historic site, by Turkish government officials.
The definitive book on this was written by the man who surveyed
the site .. an American citizen named David Fasold .. who is now
deceased.
The Ark of Noah" .. ISBN 1- 56129 - 006 - 8
This book has been out-of-print for several years ... but it is
well-worth any effort to get a copy .. used; whatever !!
I was contacted in 2000 A.D. by a man named Michael Bonilla ..
of Long Island, NY, USA. He told me he would be going to the site,
in October of 2000 .. and he was going to take GPS-unit readings.
(He had found some of my material on The Internet, you see).
Sure enough, Mr. Bonilla got to the site on the 11th of October,
2000, and he took GPS-unit readings. When he returned home, a few
days later ..he phoned me and he emailed the coordinates to me.
( October, 2000 ).
I then figured-out 2 "ASM" (Archaeo-sky Matrix) self-evident points
that appear to have been *deliberately referenced*, judging from the
*final-resting-place" of these remains of the vessel.
At least 2 earthquakes .. one in 1948 .. and the other in the
1970s ..documented in David Fasold's book ... "thrust" the remains
up and "out of the ground" .. at_least_to the extent that the form of
the vessel can be recognized.
An aerial photo of the site .. was the key to getting it noticed in
the "Western World". Again .. all of this is documented in the book
by David Fasold. I had a number of phone conversations with Mr.
Fasold, in the early 1990s. He was_very_rational .. we had some good
conversations.
There_has_been a very_concerted_effort .. *quite successful* ...
to discredit, to ridicule, and to create confusion and disinformation
about this awesome find. This disinformation/ridicule campaign has
been on-going since the early-to-mid 1980s.
It is_critical_to realize that this "campaign" has
all-but-destroyed the truth and the credibility of this
archaeological find.
The "ASM" figures that I found for this site/remains .. are
TREMENDOUSLY SIGNIFICANT. I put these figures out on The Internet in
late 2000 and in early 2001 .. to several individuals and to several
email lists.
Predictibly .. people have mostly ignored my "ASM" findings.
I maintain with absolute conviction .. that its "ASM" figures
self-evidently are DISPLAYING an awesome empirical revelation ..
tying-in directly and dramatically .. to the "ASM" in general .. and;
to Earth's ideal precession cycle in years (25920), and to the GPV
("Grid POINT Value") of The Great Sphinx of Giza .. *in-particular*.
Here are my "ASM" figures for the site/remains .. based directly
on the GPS-unit readings taken from atop the large limestone boulder
still lodged in the western side of the remains of the vessel ..
readings taken by Mr.Michael Bonilla of Long Island, New York, USA
.. on the 11th of October, 2000 A.D.
"ASM" Location of Remains of "The Ark of ZI.U.SUD.RA."
1) @ Amidships-Centerline .. between bulkheads 5 and 6 ..based on
the diagram/drawing by David Fasold, on page 291 of his book, "The
Ark of Noah" .. paperback; ISBN 1- 56129 - 006 - 8
Grid LAT ..
39(deg) * 26(min) * 25.56213018(sec) North ..
= 25920 North .. ideal Earth precession cycle, in years.
Grid LONG ..
13(deg) * 06(min) * 4.615384615)sec) E.Giza ..
= 360 E.Giza .. conventional no. of arc-degrees on any Circle.
[ E.Greenwich .. 44 deg 14 min 5.415384615 sec ].
Grid POINT Value ..
(25920 / 360) = 72 .. no. of years ("ideal") for one arc-degree of
Earth's precession cycle.
(Morton, 2000, Internet).
2) @ Middle of large Limestone Boulder .. still lodged in western
side of vessel's remains ..
Grid LAT ..
39(deg) * 26(min) * 26.03550296(sec) North ..
= 26400 North .. resonant with the metrology of "No. Feet in
Statute Mile"
..
5280 feet in statute mile .. (26400 / 5280) = 5.
Grid LONG ..
13(deg) * 06(min) * 4.512820513(sec) E.Giza ..
= 352 E.Giza.
[ E.Greenwich .. 44 deg 14 min 5.312820513 sec ].
Grid POINT Value ..
(26400 / 352) = 75.
(Morton, 2000, Internet).
Multiplying the 2 Grid POINT Values ..
(72 * 75) = 5400 .. Grid POINT Value of The Great Sphinx of Giza.
(Munck, 1992, "The Code", self-published).
http://www.pyramidmatrix.com
Also note .. 5400 .. is exactly 1/4th of the polar circumference
of Earth in nautical miles .. (21,600).
---------------------------------------
One needs to realize that these "ASM" values .. self-evident in
the *final-resting-place* of this awesome archaeological find ..are
of TREMENDOUS SIGNIFICANCE .. first of all, because ..the odds of
this pair of GPVs .. with these_particular_Grid LATs and Grid
LONGs ..the odds of this occurring by "random chance" ..must be
incredibly astronomical.
Please notice .. that .. in order for the #1 node to have_both_a
Grid LONG of 360_and_a Grid LAT of 25920 .. producing the ratio of
72 .. giving the precise math formula for Earth's ideal precession
cycle in years_and_also in 'years-per-degree' .. including the
conventional number of degrees in a Circle .. !!! .. *requires* that
the decimal-fractional number of arc-seconds in BOTH latitude and
longitude be *extremely* precise ..to even give an empirical
"indication" of what you see here !!!
Then .. on top of that .. you need the GPV of the #2 node .. to
actually BE the number 75 .. to produce the multiplied-product of
5400 .. as the GPV of The Great Sphinx of Giza !!
So; in order for the GPV of # 2 node to *Be* 75 .. *requires*
that the number of decimal-fractional arc-seconds of_both_latitude
and longitude ..again .. be *extremely* precise .. to even give an
empirical "indication" of what you see !!!
I think the "Anunnaki" were involved .. in "guiding" the vessel
to a pre-arranged *final-resting-place* .. snagged in its west side
by the huge limestone boulder referenced earlier in this email.
I think it was the "EN.KI./E.A. faction" of the Anunnaki that
arranged for this precise *final-resting-place*. They would have
had the high technology needed to do it. They KNEW the "ASM", of
course !!
Zecharia Sitchin's work indicates that a "nautonnier"
was_aboard_the vessel with ZI.U.SUD.RA. and company.
He could have had "radio" contact with the_orbiting_Anunnaki.
The orbiting Anunnaki could have been_monitoring_the huge limestone
boulder's location, as well as the "Noah's Ark" location.
The use of the large "drogue stones" (found near the site .. again;
documented by David Fasold, in his book) .. would have allowed for
"steering", and for change-of-speed, of the vessel.
The "nautonnier" is a symbol in the Freema-onry tradition.
Of course .. it is etymologically related to the word "nautical" ..
as in the 5400_nautical_miles of arc-distance on Earth .. from either
pole to the equator.
We need *someone* .. or *many people* .. to break through the
stifling suppression of this **EXTREMELY IMPORTANT** archaeological
site !!! Please ... this is of the UTMOST, and PARAMOUNT ..
importance.
I cannot emphasize this enough The site and the remains are just
sitting there !!!
The place is a National Historic Site .. dedicated in the 1980s ..
by the official Turkish Government !!!
Anyone can just .. go there !!!
-- Michael Lawrence Morton
http://hometown.aol.com/marscode/homepage1.html
http://www.greatdreams.com/gem1.htm
=======================================================
EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84Avs.a9EkM8
Or send an email To: Global_Rumblin...@topica.com
T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail!
http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register
=======================================================
JW I will have to admit that the readings that this person put
down are very confusing to say the least. In the past journeys to
attempt to find the Ark have been met with bandits who carry guns in
that area. Some of these people think it is their purpose in life to
protect the Ark. Some of these people receive a one way pass to
the other side of life after they confronted the travellers by the
people who thought differently. In the pass a person would have to
get permission to go into the area where the Ark is. To get the
permission would take a long time. Let's hope things are easier to
accomplish this now.
From the sides of this great mountain one can see most of the
missile sites in the neighboring large country.
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Subject: Treasure Trove Cave. Oct. 14, 2001.
Here is something about a cave found in Illinois that may be the
same as Burrow's Cave.
.....................................................................
.....................................................................
Treasure-Trove in Southern Illinois
Below are excerpts from an article I found on the web. I took out
the parts where they assumed certain things about what they found.
The evidence itself tells me that these are Atlantean. If you want
to read the whole article, go to the website. If you want to see
just the evidence, read this article.
T
ANCIENT AMERICAN * ISSUE #30
http://www.ancientamerican.com/article30p1.htm
In an early spring afternoon in 1982, a man was slowly walking
alone through a forsaken cemetery in southern Illinois. In his hands
he carried a common metal-detector. He hovered its saucer-like
device about six inches above the ground, while watching its dial
for the slightest movement, sure sign that something of possible
worth lay just beneath the surface.
One of the relatively few marble slabs removed from the Illinois
site portrays either a ruler or high priest.
A resident from a nearby town, he was an avid collector hoping to
find the occasional lost coin or even some shiny artifact from the
Civil War era. This day, however, his meandering quest among the
unvisited tomb-stones failed to elicit any response from the
mineral-sensitive instrument until he neared the far end of the
burial ground. The metal-detector became increasingly agitated with
every footstep, until it led him entirely out of the cemetery, down
a shallow ravine and up the side of a steep hill. Its dial
oscillated violently, as though the explorer were treading over Fort
Knox. He continued across the desolate country, waiting for the
indicator to become still. Walking along the top of the hill, his
eyes fixed steadily on the instrument. He suddenly fell into a
perfectly vertical pit just wide enough to accommodate his shoulders.
Shaken but recovering his senses, he realized that he had landed
on his feet on a soft, dirt floor some eight feet beneath the surface
of the ground.
The metal-detector had not followed him down. He remembered the
small pocket-flashlight in his jacket. Fetching it out, the narrow
but bright beam of light immediately revealed what appeared to be
a chamber opening directly in front of him.
He cautiously entered the dank room. He saw stone statues, large
urns and edged weapons scattered across the floor. The walls were
covered with the sculpted friezes of Egyptian-like scenes. Moving
to the far end of the chamber, he found an adjacent room, in which
reposed a large sarcophagus of gold gleaming in the steady beam of
his flash-light. There were more chambers, but they appeared to
have collapsed and become inaccessible.
An Illinois portrait-stone preserves the image of a soldier.
Returning to the first room, the now amazed explorer filled his
pockets with strange, gold coins from small, unlocked caskets.
Nearby were stacked enormous piles of roughly hewn black stones,
all engraved with the likeness of bizarre-looking men and women
accompanied by written scripts of some kind.
The image depicted on this Illinois portrait-stone is identified
by a streamer extending from the helmet crest.
His flashlight battery failing, he pushed outward with his hands
an feet against the walls of the narrow pit through which he had
fallen, and clambere out of the subterranean darkness back into the
sunlight.
For the next 17 years, he removed thousands of artifacts from the
underground site. Most of these have been the black stones engraved
with singular portraits of largely non-Amerindian persons.
Although he sold them throughout the U.S., his steadfast refusal to
reveal their place of origin led many investigators to conclude that
they are modern fakes, and not the genuine artifacts of overseas'
visitors to pre-Columbian Illinois. But collectors who pay high
prices for these peculiar stones insist they are genuine for
fundamental reasons. Approximately 7,000 examples are known to exist,
far too many to have been manufactured by one man, even with
assistance. More convincingly, they feature internal evidence in the
form of esoteric and even arcane images far beyond the experience of
the provincial man to have faked.
After nearly two decades, the controversy may be resolved in the
near future, as excavation proceeds at what researchers believe is
the previously undisclosed, underground location itself. If and
when it is finally opened, the chambers' bizarre contents may prompt
more questions than answers. But so many objects have already been
removed and examined, that a credible, even convincing interpretation
of the site now seems possible. The chief argument against its
authenticity may in fact be the most persuasive evidence on its
behalf as a repository for indisputable, abundant, material proof of
peoples from the Ancient World in the American Middle West. That
interpretation begins, not in 20th Century Illinois, but on the other
side of the globe, in a forgotten kingdom of North Africa once known
as Mauritania. Encompassing the equivalent of today's Morocco and
parts of western Algeria, it was governed by King Juba II, 2,000
years ago.
He and his people stemmed from ancient Caucasian stock: the Mauri,
who were believed to have migrated from Asia Minor after the fall of
Troy in the late 13th Century B.C.. They were thus culturally and
racially different from the dark-skinned inhabitants who presently
occupy North Africa.
This stone from the Illinois collection shows a seaworthy ship. Such
vesels may have accompanied a fleet from other areas of the world.
Roman style is repeated in the helmet of another soldier featured
on an Illinois portrait-stone.
A Hebrew "prayer stone" found among the Illinois collection. This
Illinois portrait-stone shows a West African man wearing a sailor's
cap with a ship in the distance.
The bizarre, apparently contradictory and generally unrecognizable
variety of cultures his illustrated stones depict has even led many
diffusionists-- expecting evidence of Vikings or Celtic Iberians in
pre-Columbian America-- to reject all the items as fakes. The mix of
wh-te European, b-ack African and Middle Eastern Semitic faces seems
incomprehensible to them. So too the jumble of Egyptian, J-wish and
Chr-stian rel-gious imagery.
The Crucifixion is clearly indicated on this stone from the
Illinois collection. When ground-penetrating sensors were brought
into play at the suspected location of the subterranean chambers
last summer they detected an unusually large concentration of gold
far beneath the surface. If the instrument readings have been
properly interpreted, then the Illinois site may feature not only
unquestionable proof of overseas' visitors to our continent nearly
fifteen centuries before Columbus.
They may also discover that many people visited Atlantis before
the last sinking. This major continent, after all, ruled the world
for many centuries. They were technologically more advanced that
the USA is today, and had Healing capabilities that we can only guess
at now.
Before the deluge, the pole shift, they were warned that their
land would sink into the ocean, and groups of people headed east to
the Mediteranean area, and west to the northern American continent,
where they settled among the inhabitants of each area. That is where
you get the ancient relatives of the Egyptians and Greeks, as well as
the ancient relatives of the Native Americans, the Aztecs and Maya.
Both civilizations show ample examples of Atlantean lifestyles, in
their clothing, architecture, knowledge, artworks, temples, pyramids,
etc. Both of those civilizations would have been nothing without
the Atlanteans having moved into their area before the flood.
T
John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Doctress Neutopia
Thanks, John, Jorn and Schwan for feedback.
While I was in Turkey I wanted to to this site.
Doctress Neutopia
aka Libby Hubbbard EdD
www.lovolution.net
Lovolution or Extinction?
John Griffin
"John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> wrote
> Here is some information about Noah's Ark, a subject that I have
> spent quite a bit of time investigating. I have a friend by the
> name of Dr. Patton who plans to make a trip over there in the future
> to try to find it. If I can find his e-mail address again maybe
> I'll send him this information. I've also been sent a lot of
> information about Burrow's Cave but it seems to be lost for the
> present time.
> [ yap yap yap ]
Here's the true story of "Noah's Ark." This came to me in a "vision" on the
road up to a place called Montserrat, near Barcelona.
A couple of thousand years ago, The King travelled up into the Pyrenees
Mountains to enjoy the view of the Mediterranean Sea. He was mystified by
the fact that there are billions of little seashells in the gravel, etc. up
there. He ordered the factotums to explain this strange thing to him. They
couldn't come up with a rational explanation, but they weren't ready to have
their heads rolled down the hill from such a great height, so they invented
some horseshit about a flood covering the entire planet. Noah and his ark
were just an embellishment. The King loved embellishments.
I was lying about the vision. The fact is that it's plain to see that
sea-floor sediment elevated by natural forces is where the flood myth came
from.
Schwann
neut...@lovolution.net says...
>
> Thanks, John, Jorn and Schwan for feedback.
>
> While I was in Turkey I wanted to to this site.
what did you see?