In alt.talk.royalty David <ds
...@softhome.net> wrote:
: On Nov 27, 10:08 pm, Louis Epstein <l
...@put.com> wrote:
:> In alt.talk.royalty David <ds
...@softhome.net> wrote:
:> : On Nov 23, 6:50 pm, Donald4564 <dbi
...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
:> :
:> :> You might like to also check on some facts. England experimented with
:> :> a republican government from 1649-1660 and wholeheartedly restored the
:> :> monarchy in 1660.
:> :
:> : I think "half-heartedly" is more like it, and that the subsequent
:> : history of the monarchy bears that out. Moreover, the "republican
:> : government" of 1649-1660 was a military dictatorship headed up by a
:> : generalissimo, and not a republic even in the sense in which
:> : contemporary republics (like the United Provinces of the Netherlands)
:> : understood the term.
:> :
:> : The more-or-less democratically elected parliament of 1642 had been
:> : much reduced, by expulsions and defections, by 1648, to the point
:> : where it was dominated by a majority of a minority. Even this
:> : minority parliament was insufficiently radical for the unelected Army;
:> : and when it looked as if the parliament might reinstate the King, on
:> : terms that would give parliamentary leaders free control of policy and
:> : choice of cabinet ministers (much like the current situation in the
:> : UK), the Army chiefs, led by Cromwell, kicked out all but the most
:> : radical Parliamentarians and cut the King's head off in what was, by
:> : any legal criteria but the law of might makes right, an illegal
:> : proceeding. A new wave of civil war followed, which was competently
:> : and brutally enough suppressed by Cromwell; and following the
:> : reestablishment of peace, he suppressed the last remnants of the
:> : parliament of '42. Handpicked assemblies, without any democratic
:> : element to their selection, offered Cromwell powers equal to or
:> : greater than a King's -- and he accepted everything but the name.
:> :
:> : When Cromwell died five years later, and his weaker son was ousted by
:> : a military coup, many people reasoned thus: "One way or another, we
:> : seem destined to end up under monarchical rule. If this is so, why
:> : not choose the heir by blood? At least under the old constitutional
:> : regime we knew what our rights, and the King's obligations, were.
:> : Under these new dispensations and Instruments of Government, we have
:> : no established rights and can be deprived of our freedoms at any time
:> : by this rapacious soldiery."
:> :
:> : With that in mind, the monarchy was (after many political twists and
:> : turns, and largely due to Charles II's amenability to compomise)
:> : restored as a limited, constitutional monarchy, hemmed in though not
:> : (as yet) strictly controlled by Parliament. But the acceptance of
:> : Charles II's rule was not "whole-hearted" -- rather, it soon developed
:> : an opposition faction and the development of the first true party
:> : politics in the history of England. The Revolution of '88, and the
:> : Hanoverian Succession of '14, showed that the attachment of the
:> : Restoration elite was not to the persons of the Stuart monarchs, but
:> : to a monarchical system within which an oligarchic form of government,
:> : making use of, but not controlled by monarchic authority, could be
:> : established. Democratic elements did not appear in the system until
:> : the 19th century, and then were only established gradually; in
:> : between, the British state was governed by aristocratic factions who
:> : used the facade of elections, manipulated by themselves, to legitimize
:> : their claims to authority, rather than deriving their authority from
:> : the results of free elections.
:>
:> Authority can only derive from the Divine Right of a Monarchy;
:> a government can only derive its EFFECTIVENESS from the consent
:> of the governed.A government's responsibility is to act for the
:> BENEFIT of,not ON BEHALF of,those it governs...as a subordinate
:> of their desires it can not perform its duty of subordinating
:> their desires to their needs.
:>
:> Republicanism is fundamentally illogical and should not exist.
:>
:
: I'm highly impressed by your ALL CAPITALS, Louis, indeed, they shine
: so blindingly bright that I cannot see anything else. I may need some
: help in interpreting the meaning of EFFECTIVENESS BENEFIT ON BEHALF,
: though; it's slightly cryptic, though intriguing.
Apply yourself assiduously to the study of my writings,
and comprehension may one day dawn upon you.
:> -=-=-
:> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
:> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
