Another GOP Liar
Gandalf Grey
From houstonpress.com
Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
By Tim Fleck
Former Harris County GOP chair Gary Polland just can't seem to shake his
habit of using his party position for personal and political gain. Just last
week Polland disclosed he'd transferred more than $52,000 from his secret
Republican chair's account to his District 17 Senate race, a move neatly
circumventing state law requiring disclosure of campaign contributors.
Through a quirk in state election statutes, the campaign funds of county
party chairs in Texas are exempted from the reporting requirements for
public officeholders. This isn't the first time Polland has used his private
political slush fund in ways that amazed and confounded political observers.
Newly obtained documents offer insights into both the sources of his money
and the lengths he is willing to go to to hide them.
A confidential dismissal order of the Texas Ethics Commission was provided
to The Insider. It indicates Polland either lied in a sworn affidavit to
investigators about his use of the fund, or lied earlier in tape-recorded
comments to the Houston Press. Either way it's hardly behavior becoming to a
senatorial hopeful.
In the fall of 1999, Polland collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from
opponents to the downtown basketball arena. He deposited them in his
chairman's account, then immediately contributed an equal amount of money to
the anti-arena political action committee called Citizens for
Accountability. The effect was to shield the identities of the contributors
from public disclosure.
Terry O'Rourke, a Democratic activist and former assistant county attorney,
later filed a complaint with the Texas Ethics Commission alleging that
Polland's fund transfers violated state campaign laws against so-called
pass-through contributions. An illegal pass-through occurs when a person
accepts a contribution from a source with the understanding that it will be
passed on to another campaign or political action committee. Such maneuvers
are illegal because they mask donors' identities.
The commission eventually dismissed O'Rourke's complaint, citing sworn
affidavits from Polland and a "secret contributor" that the money had never
been earmarked for the arena campaign. Although Polland has refused to name
the source of the money, the commission's order of dismissal discloses that
$400,000 came from Wincrest Ventures L.P., the personal investment vehicle
for Chuck Watson, owner of the Houston Aeros hockey team. At the time, he
operated the Compaq Center and was one of the leading opponents to the arena
referendum.
In a second referendum a year later, Watson and Polland dropped their
opposition and the measure passed. The arena is under construction in the
southeast corner of downtown.
In his affidavit to the commission, Polland offered the following defense
against O'Rourke's complaint:
"I decided to use some of my funds in the 'Chairman's account' to contribute
to a specific purpose committee that was involved in a local measure
election.It was my understanding that the contributors to my 'Chairman's
account' were contributing to the 'Chairman's account' for my use in my
efforts in seeking the Chairmanship of the Republican Party, not the efforts
of those involved in a measure election."
Bolstering that position was Watson's representative, John A. Blaisdell, who
swore in an affidavit that "these contributions were unconditional; that is,
they were not made with any intent or requirement that the funds either be
given to anyone else or to any other entity, or to be spent for any
particular purpose."
Taken at face value, the two affidavits contend that a sports franchise
owner fighting the arena just happened to drop $400,000 with no strings
attached on a county party chairman who had no opponent and was not engaged
in a re-election effort. Then that party chairman just happened to take the
money and immediately transfer it to a political action committee fighting
the very arena that Watson had already publicly committed $100,000 to
defeat. Because the cash had been laundered through Polland's campaign
account, Watson's identity was never disclosed.
Far more plausible is the straight-ahead, no-regrets explanation Polland
willingly blurted out to The Insider in a taped interview on Election Night
in November 1999.
"Prior to the [anti-arena] PAC being formed, when people started sending
money to fight the arena they sent it to me, that's how it happened," said
the then-chairman during a raucous party at Pappa La Rosa's pasta bar.
Polland recounted how he told the sources, "You can write checks to the
Republican Party, you can wait till the PAC forms, or you can write checks
to my campaign account." He left no doubt that the contributions had been
earmarked to fight the arena, not for his re-election.
The ethics commission never bothered to ask the Press for Polland's taped
comments to compare to the affidavits before it dismissed the complaint.
Asked why, commission member Mickey Lawrence says the agency's hands are
tied by its own bylaws.
"The commission thinks that by calling you they would have violated the
confidentiality provision, so they can't investigate," says Lawrence. She
had recused herself from the O'Rourke complaint because of her knowledge of
Polland's campaign tactics. "They're just not going to go out and
investigate."
A pro-arena combatant from the 1999 election had a good laugh over the
affidavits.
"It's just complete bullshit," chuckled the source. "Blaisdell's never given
a dime to a party chair or a party function before then, and I'm sure he
hasn't given a dime since. That commission is so toothless they might just
as well be eating baby food."
County Democratic Party chair Sue Schechter, who says she's never received a
contribution larger than $100 to her office account or passed those funds on
to others, was equally amused by Polland's written claims.
"How could anybody be so naive as to believe that?" asks Schechter. "One of
the main problems with the Texas Ethics Commission is you can file
affidavits that are absolutely absurd, and the commission does nothing about
it."
One thing's for sure: When it comes to the fine art of crafting misleading
answers for investigators, ex-president Bill Clinton could pick up some
valuable pointers from the words of ex-chair Gary Polland.
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Foxtrot
>http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
>Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
>Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
>By Tim Fleck
>
>Former Harris County GOP chair Gary Polland just can't seem to shake his
>habit of using his party position for personal and political gain.
>One thing's for sure: When it comes to the fine art of crafting misleading
>answers for investigators, ex-president Bill Clinton could pick up some
>valuable pointers from the words of ex-chair Gary Polland.
HAHAHAHA! BJ Clinton could pick up pointers from anybody
else on earth about misleading investigators and using his
office to build personal slush funds?!??!!? Such denial.
Like many liberals, Gandolt's posts are getting more and more
absurd.
bu...@appointed.com
like a right wing nut;
Sure as shit couldn't beat your drooling california turnip in the
LYING department.
And the illegal, shady felonies being committed a floor away from
your venerated vegetable makes renting out beds positively tame.
====================================================
Poor, pathetic, DIMWIT DANA, blusterers thusly:
IT PROVES YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.
Hey ASSHOLE no one but you cares about this,
but it does show you are a hypocritical LOON.
Come on Roseasshole tell us what town you live in,
or are you to chicken to fight.
I am in Phoenix, and my number is listed,
come on chicken man, make your hat.
Dusty Rhodes
news:3jo66u0sk010egehm...@4ax.com...
As absurd as bringing up years old allegations of questionable activities of
a private citizen as a way to defend the illegal actions of current high
ranking GOP officials? I think not.
"CLINTON'S PENIS! CLINTON'S PENIS! WHAT ABOUT CLINTON'S PENIS!?"
<yawn>
Cheers,
Dusty
Foxtrot
>"Foxtrot" <fox...@null.com> wrote
>> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
>> >http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
>> >One thing's for sure: When it comes to the fine art of crafting
>misleading
>> >answers for investigators, ex-president Bill Clinton could pick up some
>> >valuable pointers from the words of ex-chair Gary Polland.
>>
>> HAHAHAHA! BJ Clinton could pick up pointers from anybody
>> else on earth about misleading investigators and using his
>> office to build personal slush funds?!??!!? Such denial.
>>
>> Like many liberals, Gandolt's posts are getting more and more
>> absurd.
>
>As absurd as bringing up years old allegations of questionable activities of
>a private citizen as a way to defend the illegal actions of current high
>ranking GOP officials? I think not.
>
>"CLINTON'S PENIS! CLINTON'S PENIS! WHAT ABOUT CLINTON'S PENIS!?"
The article first brought up BJ Clinton, Rhodekill, not me. If
you lefties are so ashamed of him, then don't mention him
in these feeble attempts to make him look less disgusting.
GWB:Guzzle Whiskey & Barf
<te...@POTTEDMEATtexas.net> wrote:
>"CLINTON'S PENIS! CLINTON'S PENIS! WHAT ABOUT CLINTON'S PENIS!?"
Still there. Still fascinatin' the Reptiles.
Dusty Rhodes
Fuck off, you babbling imbecile. Sheesh.
Who told you you could play with the adults? Get your stupid ass back in the
sack pronto, mister.
Cheers,
Dusty
Dusty Rhodes
news:la896uk4hoq1on24i...@4ax.com...
You know, maybe we oughta all get together and pop for hookers for the
conservadolts. You never know.
Cheers,
Dusty
Chris Nelson
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> http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
>
> From houstonpress.com
> Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
> ©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
>
>
>
> Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
> Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
Why should this be surprising? Republicans lie. It's part of their nature.
--
Chris
AUDIO VIDEO DISCO - "I hear, I see, I learn"
Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)
do you choose to deny Reality? You can be as Stupid as you wish to be, this
is America!
"Chris Nelson" <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote in message
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markov444
Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a3vcut$q7h$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> > http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
> >
> > From houstonpress.com
> > Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
> > ©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
> >
> >
> >
> > Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
> > Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
>
> Why should this be surprising? Republicans lie. It's part of their nature.
"I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.......MONICA LEWINSKI."
Hey, moron, have you forgotten about Bubba The Liar already?????
Are all scum sucking liberal whores as forgetful as you?
GWB:Guzzle Whiskey & Barf
another feature of Reptiles: Poor comprehension capabilities.
Chris Nelson
message news:C5J98.7818$9%6.13...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Republicans are the only Politicians that Lie? Have you been in a coma? Or
> do you choose to deny Reality? You can be as Stupid as you wish to be,
this
> is America!
They are not the only politicians that lie. But at least there are
truth-telling politicians among non-Republicans. Lying is a necessary trait
for being a Republican.
Ninure Saunders
<fox...@null.com> wrote:
-"Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
-
->http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
-
->Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
->Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
->By Tim Fleck
->
->Former Harris County GOP chair Gary Polland just can't seem to shake his
->habit of using his party position for personal and political gain.
-
->One thing's for sure: When it comes to the fine art of crafting misleading
->answers for investigators, ex-president Bill Clinton could pick up some
->valuable pointers from the words of ex-chair Gary Polland.
-
-HAHAHAHA! BJ Clinton could pick up pointers from anybody
-else on earth about misleading investigators and using his
-office to build personal slush funds?!??!!? Such denial.
-
-Like many liberals, Gandolt's posts are getting more and more
-absurd.
Translation: "ANY and ALL misdeeds and CRIMES committed by Republicans and
and Conservatives commit and/or are involved in are okay....because
"CLINTON did XTZ"...therefore it is not necessary for Republicans and
and Conservatives to display any of the morality or character
Republicans and and Conservatives keep CLAIMING to have.stand for".
Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
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Chris Nelson
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Who, other than a shallow, voyeuristic Puritan, even cares about a little
white fib like that?? That had nothing to do with his job.
The Republicans, on the other hand, lie through their teeth about things
that have to do with their jobs.
Thomas Andrews
"markov444" <mark...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
>
> > "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:a3vcut$q7h$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> > >
http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
> > >
> > > From houstonpress.com
> > > Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
> > > ©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
> > > Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
> >
> > Why should this be surprising? Republicans lie. It's part of their
nature.
>
>
> "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.......MONICA LEWINSKI."
>
>
If you are going to put quotes around something, get the quote right.
"Sexual relations" is a noun phrase meaning intercourse, and is not
synonymous with any sexual act. The press immediately pointed that out,
suggesting that Clinton had chosen his words quite deliberately to deny
without technically denying. It was intended to deceive, but it wasn't a
falsehood.
=thomas
r_c_brown
> "Polish Prince (Not Bobby Vinton)" <wawrz...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
> message news:C5J98.7818$9%6.13...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > Republicans are the only Politicians that Lie? Have you been in a coma? Or
> > do you choose to deny Reality? You can be as Stupid as you wish to be,
> this
> > is America!
>
> They are not the only politicians that lie. But at least there are
> truth-telling politicians among non-Republicans. Lying is a necessary trait
> for being a Republican.
Be serious for a moment: you know that's not true.
Waitaminute! Does this mean you're a Republican? :-)
ronin
"markov444" <mark...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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So you think a blowjob is equal to the systemic political corruption of the
Enron Administration?
Bush_kicking_left_wing_ass
Henry Waxman???
It's not his administration.
ronin
"Bush_kicking_left_wing_ass" <nomor...@spamfree.com> wrote in message
news:3c8c0b52...@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
Waxman has recieved $0 from Enron. If you have CNBC, when they broadcast
commitee hearings, they show how much each member of the congressional
committee has recieved from Enron as they ask questions.
I was surprised Waxman got no $$, considering Enron tried to buy just about
every other poltician, from your House representatives right up to your
President.
markov444
Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
> "markov444" <mark...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:110220020606585853%mark...@mindspring.com...
> > In article <W%C98.69380$Zc.19...@news2.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Chris
> > Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:a3vcut$q7h$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> > > >
> http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
> > > >
> > > > From houstonpress.com
> > > > Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
> > > > ©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
> > > > Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
> > >
> > > Why should this be surprising? Republicans lie. It's part of their
> nature.
> >
> >
> > "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.......MONICA LEWINSKI."
> >
> >
> > Hey, moron, have you forgotten about Bubba The Liar already?????
>
> Who, other than a shallow, voyeuristic Puritan, even cares about a little
> white fib like that?? That had nothing to do with his job.
>
> The Republicans, on the other hand, lie through their teeth about things
> that have to do with their jobs.
>
That's a lie!!!!!
Thanks for proving my point.
markov444
<ro...@ree.com> wrote:
Ah, but how much $$$$ did Waxman get from Global Crossing and the
auditing firms like Arthur Anderson?
Don't lie now.
Foxtrot
>Foxtrot <fox...@null.com> wrote:
>-"Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
>->http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
>->One thing's for sure: When it comes to the fine art of crafting misleading
>->answers for investigators, ex-president Bill Clinton could pick up some
>->valuable pointers from the words of ex-chair Gary Polland.
>-
>-HAHAHAHA! BJ Clinton could pick up pointers from anybody
>-else on earth about misleading investigators and using his
>-office to build personal slush funds?!??!!? Such denial.
>-
>-Like many liberals, Gandolt's posts are getting more and more
>-absurd.
>
>Translation: "ANY and ALL misdeeds and CRIMES committed by Republicans and
>and Conservatives commit and/or are involved in are okay....because
>"CLINTON did XTZ"...therefore it is not necessary for Republicans and
>and Conservatives to display any of the morality or character
>Republicans and and Conservatives keep CLAIMING to have.stand for".
Heh heh, a cynical oversimplification of the facts, but close
enough. Enjoy the Clinton legacy!
Ninure Saunders
<fox...@null.com> wrote:
-RainbowChri...@hotmail.com (Ninure Saunders) wrote:
-
->Foxtrot <fox...@null.com> wrote:
->-"Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote:
->->http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
-
->->One thing's for sure: When it comes to the fine art of crafting misleading
->->answers for investigators, ex-president Bill Clinton could pick up some
->->valuable pointers from the words of ex-chair Gary Polland.
->-
->-HAHAHAHA! BJ Clinton could pick up pointers from anybody
->-else on earth about misleading investigators and using his
->-office to build personal slush funds?!??!!? Such denial.
->-
->-Like many liberals, Gandolt's posts are getting more and more
->-absurd.
->
->Translation: "ANY and ALL misdeeds and CRIMES committed by Republicans
->and Conservatives and/or are involved in are okay....because
->"CLINTON did XTZ"...therefore it is not necessary for Republicans and
->and Conservatives to display any of the morality or character
->Republicans and Conservatives keep CLAIMING to have.stand for".
-
-Heh heh, a cynical oversimplification of the facts, but close
-enough. Enjoy the Clinton legacy!
So Clinton is now responsible for the lack of character and morality
among Republicans and Conservatives?
Is that what you are saying?
Sure sounds like it!! Because you just agreed with the statement:
"ANY and ALL misdeeds and CRIMES Republicans and/or Conservatives commit
and/or are involved in are okay....because "CLINTON/'da dems" did XTZ
first/too"...therefore it is not necessary for Republicans and/or
Conservatives to display any of the morality or character Republicans
and/or Conservatives keep CLAIMING to have. and/or stand for".
Gandalf Grey
"Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Clinton was nothing but a manufactured excuse for them when he was
president, and he's still a manufactured excuse now that he's not president.
Thom
wrote:
>In article <KJS98.72531$Zc.20...@news2.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Chris
>Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
>
>> "markov444" <mark...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:110220020606585853%mark...@mindspring.com...
>> > In article <W%C98.69380$Zc.19...@news2.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Chris
>> > Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:a3vcut$q7h$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
>> > > >
>> http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
>> > > >
>> > > > From houstonpress.com
>> > > > Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
>> > > > ©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
>> > > > Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
>> > >
>> > > Why should this be surprising? Republicans lie. It's part of their
>> nature.
>> >
>> >
>> > "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.......MONICA LEWINSKI."
You have to remember that Clinton was not a LIAR, he is a Lawyer! :-)
He was telling the truth if sex means 'penitration" and since all she
did was polish his nob for him (something Hillery should have been
doing anyway) then he didn't have sex with that woman. BUT to many
idiots and republicans alike sex has a much broader meaning like even
french kissing is "sex". And how many hillbilley mountain men had to
get married just because the saw the woman in her "skimpies and
flimsies"!!! Another view?
That was lawyer Clinton talking, not president Clinton.
THOM
Stupendous Man
Stupendous Man—Enemy of Terrorism
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Oscuma, we have twelve of these! And they’re coming to get you!
Mitchell Holman
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>On 2002-02-08 11:11 PM, in article
>la896uk4hoq1on24i...@4ax.com, "GWB:Guzzle Whiskey & Barf"
><Flat...@floor.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 01:52:03 GMT, "Dusty Rhodes"
>> <te...@POTTEDMEATtexas.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "CLINTON'S PENIS! CLINTON'S PENIS! WHAT ABOUT CLINTON'S PENIS!?"
>>
>> Still there. Still fascinatin' the Reptiles.
>>
>
>Continued proof that it is only for Democrats that Clinton's crimes are
>"about sex".
And for Republicans Bush's drunk driving conviction
and preceding arrests are just "youthful indescretion".
Mitchell Holman
"Not a single nation has ratified Kyoto (accords)"
Stupendous Man, 2/16/02. In fact, 46 nations have
ratified the climate treaty, and the list is growing.
Chuck Buckley
> Stupid Man畿nema of Terrorism
> USN Carrier battle group (CVBG):
> http://www.usni.org/resources/cvbg/cvbg.htm
> Oscuma, we have twelve of these! And they1re coming to get you!
Really? You mean you're on your way to Saudi Arabia?
Isn't that classified information, sailor?
And when you get to the bin Laden family compound, will you arrest
their fellow Carlyle Group investor Poppy Bush as well? And what about
the $50,000 in start-up money the bin Ladens put into GW's Arbusto Oil
back when the little fellow was just getting started in the big world
of the petroleum business?
I'd be careful if I were you. After all, the bin Ladens are close
business associates of the Bush family. For civilians this might be a
trading with the enemy issue, but for you it is all about the shady
practices of your compromised Commander in Chief. And his equally
venal dad.
You might want to reconsider doing anything too severe to someone they
really don't want you to harm. Or even find.
BLEEDING HEART
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> Stupid Man <ro...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>
> > Stupid Man > > USN Carrier battle group (CVBG):
Arne Langsetmo
> la896uk4hoq1on24i...@4ax.com, "GWB:Guzzle Whiskey & Barf"
> <Flat...@floor.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 01:52:03 GMT, "Dusty Rhodes"
> > <te...@POTTEDMEATtexas.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "CLINTON'S PENIS! CLINTON'S PENIS! WHAT ABOUT CLINTON'S PENIS!?"
> >
> > Still there. Still fascinatin' the Reptiles.
>
> Continued proof that it is only for Democrats that Clinton's crimes are
> "about sex".
Nope. Seems it's the Republicans that think that sex is
some "crime" worthy of using the enormous power of the
judiciary and the vast resources of the FBI to "investigate":
"In the latest travesty, as revealed by the Washington Post,
Starr used prosecutors and FBI agents to interrogate Arkansas
state troopers about women with whom Bill Clinton allegedly had
affairs prior to his presidency. Starr's deputy argues that
they had a duty to find out whether Clinton might have confided
some incriminating statements to these women. Fine--until you
consider the questions Starr's agents actually asked. They
wanted to know whether one woman had borne a child who
resembled Clinton and whether any of the officers had witnessed
Clinton having sex with local women."
(U.S. News and World Report, July 21, 1997)
This long before Lewinsky fell into Ken Starr's lap, and he
had even a semi-plausible reason for asking for jurisdiction for
delving into Clinton's alleged sexual affairs, much less
any jurisdiction (something he conveninetly forgot as well
when Lewinsky came along; until the _judges_ give him
jurisdiction, it's none of his business, and he can't go
handing out immunity offers and taping folks).
Remember Danny Williams? Think that Starr would have wasted
forty million dollars of taxpayer money on finding out who
Burton actually _did_ father?
> Stupid Man Enemy of Terrorism
> USN Carrier battle group (CVBG):
> http://www.usni.org/resources/cvbg/cvbg.htm
> Oscuma, we have twelve of these! And theyąre coming to get you!
Hasn't worked yet, Stupid Man. You might tell Dubya it's time
for Plan B.
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
> Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
>
> > "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:a3vcut$q7h$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> > > http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
> > >
> > > From houstonpress.com
> > > Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
> > > ©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
> > >
> > >
> > > Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
> > > Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
> >
> > Why should this be surprising? Republicans lie. It's part of
> > their nature.
>
> "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.......MONICA LEWINSKI."
Actually, to many people this is true. He didn't have sex
with her. She gave him a blow job (or three or whatever).
But it's NOYB. Although the Rebooblicans, including
Henry "Homewrecker" Hyde, Dan "Bastard" Burton, Bob "Lashes"
Livingston, Bob "Whipped Cream Boobies" Barr, and Newt "Knobby"
Gingrich did think so.
But sex was an "issue" with Rebooblicans long before Lewinsky
fell into Starr's lap and there was some semi-plausible link
between sex and what was supposedly Starr's job:
"In the latest travesty, as revealed by the Washington Post,
Starr used prosecutors and FBI agents to interrogate Arkansas
state troopers about women with whom Bill Clinton allegedly had
affairs prior to his presidency. Starr's deputy argues that
they had a duty to find out whether Clinton might have confided
some incriminating statements to these women. Fine--until you
consider the questions Starr's agents actually asked. They
wanted to know whether one woman had borne a child who
resembled Clinton and whether any of the officers had witnessed
Clinton having sex with local women."
(U.S. News and World Report, July 21, 1997)
> Hey, moron, have you forgotten about Bubba The Liar already?????
Apparently you haven't. I'd suggest professional counselling,
if not a steady dosage of Buspar.
> Are all scum sucking liberal whores as forgetful as you?
You seem to have a fascination with things sexual. Have you
talked to your doctor about this?
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Stupendous Man
> Stupendous Man, who keeps kicking chuck's ass <ro...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:<B893630E.5A15E%ro...@127.0.0.1>...
>
>> Stupid Man—Enema of Terrorism
>> USN Carrier battle group (CVBG):
>> http://www.usni.org/resources/cvbg/cvbg.htm
>> Oscuma, we have twelve of these! And they1re coming to get you!
> Really? You mean you're on your way to Saudi Arabia?
>
> Isn't that classified information, sailor?
>
> And when you get to the bin Laden family compound, will you arrest
> their fellow Carlyle Group investor Poppy Bush as well? And what about
> the $50,000 in start-up money the bin Ladens put into GW's Arbusto Oil
> back when the little fellow was just getting started in the big world
> of the petroleum business?
> I'd be careful if I were you. After all, the bin Ladens are close
> business associates of the Bush family. For civilians this might be a
> trading with the enemy issue, but for you it is all about the shady
> practices of your compromised Commander in Chief. And his equally
> venal dad.
> You might want to reconsider doing anything too severe to someone they
> really don't want you to harm. Or even find.
Stupendous Man—Go Bucks!
Marines on an LAV patrol Kandahar while an AH1W Super Cobra flies overhead:
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/images/people/mar-lav.jpg
Stupendous Man
> here, here!
A map is better than shouting on the Internet.
Stupendous Man—Educating liberals on Usenet since 1987.
Get the latest book on Ronald Reagan from Time-Life:
https://cgi.timeinc.net/cgi-bin/magsubs/cc/tihesubs/reagan01
Stupendous Man
> Stupendous Man, who keeps making a fool out of Arne <ro...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:<B893630E.5A15E%ro...@127.0.0.1>...
>> la896uk4hoq1on24i...@4ax.com, "GWB:Guzzle Whiskey & Barf"
>> <Flat...@floor.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 01:52:03 GMT, "Dusty Rhodes"
>>> <te...@POTTEDMEATtexas.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "CLINTON'S PENIS! CLINTON'S PENIS! WHAT ABOUT CLINTON'S PENIS!?"
>>>
>>> Still there. Still fascinatin' the Reptiles.
>>
>> Continued proof that it is only for Democrats that Clinton's crimes are
>> "about sex".
> Nope.
Yep.
Stupendous Man—Slayer of weasels
The Government's ability to finance its debt is tied to the size and strength
of the economy, or GDP. Debt held by the public was 35 percent of GDP at
the end of 2000. As a percentage of GDP, debt held by the public was
highest at the end of World War II, at 109 percent, then fell to 24 percent in
1974 before gradually rising to a peak of 49 percent in the middle 1990s.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2002/guide04.html
Stupendous Man
> markov444 <mark...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:<110220020606585853%mark...@mindspring.com>...
>> In article <W%C98.69380$Zc.19...@news2.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Chris
>> Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:a3vcut$q7h$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
>>>> http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
>>>>
>>>> From houstonpress.com
>>>> Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
>>>> ©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
>>>> Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
>>>
>>> Why should this be surprising? Republicans lie. It's part of
>>> their nature.
>>
>> "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.......MONICA LEWINSKI."
> Actually, to many people this is true. He didn't have sex
> with her. She gave him a blow job (or three or whatever).
I didn't think so.
Stupendous Man—Annoying liberals on Usenet since 1987.
After inheriting an inflationary economy from Carter, the Reagan economic
programs reduced inflation from a high 10.3% in 1981 to 4.8% in 1989.
http://reagan.webteamone.com/ --THE Ronald Reagan site.
Chuck Buckley
> >> Oscuma, we have twelve of these! And they1re coming to get you!
> >
> > Really? You mean you're on your way to Saudi Arabia?
> >
>
> Nope.
>
> > Isn't that classified information, sailor?
> >
>
> Nope.
>
> > And when you get to the bin Laden family compound, will you arrest
> > their fellow Carlyle Group investor Poppy Bush as well? And what about
> > the $50,000 in start-up money the bin Ladens put into GW's Arbusto Oil
> > back when the little fellow was just getting started in the big world
> > of the petroleum business?
>
> Where do you live?
Oh look! Stupid Man is trying to look threatening!
>
> > I'd be careful if I were you. After all, the bin Ladens are close
> > business associates of the Bush family. For civilians this might be a
> > trading with the enemy issue, but for you it is all about the shady
> > practices of your compromised Commander in Chief. And his equally
> > venal dad.
>
> Have any home defense measures?
Nope. Not a thing.
>
> > You might want to reconsider doing anything too severe to someone they
> > really don't want you to harm. Or even find.
>
> Live alone?
Wife. 2 kids, both under 2.
Bet that gets you salivating, eh killer?
Arne Langsetmo
news:<B894F106.5AB9E%ro...@127.0.0.1>...
> On 2002-02-16 3:18 PM, in article
> b061e616.02021...@posting.google.com, "Arne Langsetmo"
> <zu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > markov444 <mark...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:<110220020606585853%mark...@mindspring.com>...
> >> In article <W%C98.69380$Zc.19...@news2.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Chris
> >> Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:a3vcut$q7h$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> >>>> http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
> >>>>
> >>>> From houstonpress.com
> >>>> Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
> >>>> ©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
> >>>>
> >>>> Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
> >>>> Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
> >>>
> >>> Why should this be surprising? Republicans lie. It's part of
> >>> their nature.
> >>
> >> "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.......MONICA LEWINSKI."
> >
> > Actually, to many people this is true. He didn't have sex
> > with her. She gave him a blow job (or three or whatever).
>
> Do you have a daughter?
No. If you do (which would be rather surprising), you might ask
her what _she_ thinks. Turns out that many teens do consider
oral sex to be not going "all the way". Polls at the time
showed this. Not to mention that Lewinsky was not a teen, and
quite capable of making up her own mind.
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Arne Langsetmo
response in message news:<B894F0D8.5AB9D%ro...@127.0.0.1>...
> On 2002-02-16 3:08 PM, in article
> b061e616.0202...@posting.google.com, "Arne Langsetmo"
> <zu...@ix.netcom.com> in a fit of childish rage wrote:
>
> > Stupendous Man, who keeps making a fool out of Arne <ro...@127.0.0.1>
> > wrote in message
> > news:<B893630E.5A15E%ro...@127.0.0.1>...
> >> On 2002-02-08 11:11 PM, in article
> >> la896uk4hoq1on24i...@4ax.com, "GWB:Guzzle Whiskey & Barf"
> >> <Flat...@floor.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 01:52:03 GMT, "Dusty Rhodes"
> >>> <te...@POTTEDMEATtexas.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "CLINTON'S PENIS! CLINTON'S PENIS! WHAT ABOUT CLINTON'S PENIS!?"
> >>>
> >>> Still there. Still fascinatin' the Reptiles.
> >>
> >> Continued proof that it is only for Democrats that Clinton's crimes are
> >> "about sex".
> >
> > Nope.
>
> Yep.
Quite the rebuttal, Stupid Man. Why don't you try a little
more _substantive_ and _reasoned_ response to the _rest_ of
my prior post, which you snipped:
{from prior post]:
Nope. Seems it's the Republicans that think that sex is
some "crime" worthy of using the enormous power of the
judiciary and the vast resources of the FBI to "investigate":
"In the latest travesty, as revealed by the Washington Post,
Starr used prosecutors and FBI agents to interrogate Arkansas
state troopers about women with whom Bill Clinton allegedly had
affairs prior to his presidency. Starr's deputy argues that
they had a duty to find out whether Clinton might have confided
some incriminating statements to these women. Fine--until you
consider the questions Starr's agents actually asked. They
wanted to know whether one woman had borne a child who
resembled Clinton and whether any of the officers had witnessed
Clinton having sex with local women."
(U.S. News and World Report, July 21, 1997)
This long before Lewinsky fell into Ken Starr's lap, and he
had even a semi-plausible reason for asking for jurisdiction for
delving into Clinton's alleged sexual affairs, much less
any jurisdiction (something he conveninetly forgot as well
when Lewinsky came along; until the _judges_ give him
jurisdiction, it's none of his business, and he can't go
handing out immunity offers and taping folks).
Remember Danny Williams? Think that Starr would have wasted
forty million dollars of taxpayer money on finding out who
Burton actually _did_ father?
Typical Rebooblican here, Stupid Man. Simply ignore the obvious
hypocrisy and venality of your own champeens, and take the high
"moral" road on a matter of no consequence, making it out to be
a "high crime or misdemeanor". Raw and naked partisanship clothed
in hypocritical sanctimony. That's the guiding "morals" of
latter day Republicanism. If you _have_ a daughter, and you
are the source of her moral education, you might think twice
before you support anti-abortion causes.
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
Liam Devlin
>
> On 2002-02-16 11:46 AM, in article
> e2wb8.1452$OS7.34...@twister2.starband.net, "BLEEDING HEART"
> <lickm...@scrodum.net> wrote:
>
> > here, here!
>
> A map is better than shouting on the Internet.
Clear thinking from the Loon Brain Trust.
Liam Devlin
>
> On 2002-02-16 3:18 PM, in article
> b061e616.02021...@posting.google.com, "Arne Langsetmo"
> <zu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > markov444 <mark...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:<110220020606585853%mark...@mindspring.com>...
> >> In article <W%C98.69380$Zc.19...@news2.rdc1.mi.home.com>, Chris
> >> Nelson <cris...@REMOVEhome.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Gandalf Grey" <ganda...@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:a3vcut$q7h$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> >>>>
> http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2002-02-07/insider.html/1/index.html
> >>>>
> >>>> From houstonpress.com
> >>>> Originally published by Houston Press Feb 07, 2002
> >>>> ©2002 New Times, Inc. All rights reserved.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Liar! Liar! Pants On Fire
> >>>> Ex-GOP chair's affidavit contradicts earlier slush-fund remarks
> >>>
> >>> Why should this be surprising? Republicans lie. It's part of
> >>> their nature.
> >>
> >> "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN.......MONICA LEWINSKI."
> >
> > Actually, to many people this is true. He didn't have sex
> > with her. She gave him a blow job (or three or whatever).
>
> Do you have a daughter?
>
> I didn't think so.
Have you ever had a blow job?
I didn't think so.
Loons!