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MattB
Jul 28, 2012, 12:10:08 PM7/28/12
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Gang Violence Smolders On Hot Chicago Streets
http://www.npr.org/2012/07/28/157454927/gang-violence-smoulders-on-hot-chicago-streets
This has been a summer of blood, sweat and tears in Chicago. The city
has been scorched by historic heat, and the homicide rate has soared.
When the sun goes down behind the glimmering lakeshore skyline, blocks
on the South and West Side of the city can ring with shots and sirens.
The streets of neighborhoods like Englewood, Grand Crossing and
Garfield Park are empty, even during the day. In the middle of this
summer, it is rare to see a child ride a bike or walk a dog.
"A child should not have to say, 'I can't go out because I might get
shot.'" resident Michelle Harris says at a community meeting at the
Englewood police station. "That's bad, that's bad."
Chicago's street gangs span generations. The Black P. Stone Nation and
Gangster Disciples gangs are older enterprises than Microsoft or
Yahoo.
You can see those names on police blotters this summer, but they may
be names that smaller gangs just put on like a baseball cap. The word
most people now use is "cliques."
http://www.npr.org/2012/07/28/157454927/gang-violence-smoulders-on-hot-chicago-streets
This has been a summer of blood, sweat and tears in Chicago. The city
has been scorched by historic heat, and the homicide rate has soared.
When the sun goes down behind the glimmering lakeshore skyline, blocks
on the South and West Side of the city can ring with shots and sirens.
The streets of neighborhoods like Englewood, Grand Crossing and
Garfield Park are empty, even during the day. In the middle of this
summer, it is rare to see a child ride a bike or walk a dog.
"A child should not have to say, 'I can't go out because I might get
shot.'" resident Michelle Harris says at a community meeting at the
Englewood police station. "That's bad, that's bad."
Chicago's street gangs span generations. The Black P. Stone Nation and
Gangster Disciples gangs are older enterprises than Microsoft or
Yahoo.
You can see those names on police blotters this summer, but they may
be names that smaller gangs just put on like a baseball cap. The word
most people now use is "cliques."
Kumbaya Flauerpower
Jul 28, 2012, 12:27:33 PM7/28/12
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MattB <trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:cj38181o63ldfaaoj...@4ax.com:
> Gang Violence Smolders On Hot Chicago Streets
...
> "A child should not have to say, 'I can't go out because I might get
> shot.'" resident Michelle Harris says at a community meeting at the
> Englewood police station. "That's bad, that's bad."
When the Mayor stated that Chic-fil-A did not rise to the standard of
"Chicago values," this must be part of what he meant.
That and political corruption, of course.
--
"If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that."
(Barack Obama, expressing his contempt for American
business on July 14, 2012)
news:cj38181o63ldfaaoj...@4ax.com:
> Gang Violence Smolders On Hot Chicago Streets
> "A child should not have to say, 'I can't go out because I might get
> shot.'" resident Michelle Harris says at a community meeting at the
> Englewood police station. "That's bad, that's bad."
"Chicago values," this must be part of what he meant.
That and political corruption, of course.
--
"If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that."
(Barack Obama, expressing his contempt for American
business on July 14, 2012)
3082 Dead
Jul 28, 2012, 12:40:11 PM7/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:27:33 +0000, Kumbaya Flauerpower wrote:
> MattB <trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:cj38181o63ldfaaoj...@4ax.com:
>
>> Gang Violence Smolders On Hot Chicago Streets
>
> ...
>
>> "A child should not have to say, 'I can't go out because I might get
>> shot.'" resident Michelle Harris says at a community meeting at the
>> Englewood police station. "That's bad, that's bad."
>
> When the Mayor stated that Chic-fil-A did not rise to the standard of
> "Chicago values," this must be part of what he meant.
>
> That and political corruption, of course.
I see the spokesman for Chic-fil-A died of a heart attack yesterday.
> MattB <trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:cj38181o63ldfaaoj...@4ax.com:
>
>> Gang Violence Smolders On Hot Chicago Streets
>
> ...
>
>> "A child should not have to say, 'I can't go out because I might get
>> shot.'" resident Michelle Harris says at a community meeting at the
>> Englewood police station. "That's bad, that's bad."
>
> When the Mayor stated that Chic-fil-A did not rise to the standard of
> "Chicago values," this must be part of what he meant.
>
> That and political corruption, of course.
To quote Spider Robinson, "God is an iron."
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MattB
Jul 28, 2012, 2:56:15 PM7/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:31:04 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:10:08 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Gang Violence Smolders On Hot Chicago Streets
>
>How about in the Michelle Bachman camp inciting hatred against
>muslims?
So now you defend gang violence?. Progressive thinking or Obama
thinking?
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:10:08 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Gang Violence Smolders On Hot Chicago Streets
>
>muslims?
So now you defend gang violence?. Progressive thinking or Obama
thinking?
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MattB
Jul 28, 2012, 6:23:42 PM7/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:25:09 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:56:15 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>How about in the Michelle Bachman camp inciting hatred against
>>>muslims?
>>
>>
>>So now you defend gang violence?.
>
>Is that a deflection of your support for Bachman?
The article is about Gang violence not Bachman. Now if your talking
about Michele BachmannI do not and have not supported her. I
challenge you to find where I have.
Please post here............................
......................................................
>
>Figures.
Here was the original post
Gang Violence Smolders On Hot Chicago Streets
http://www.npr.org/2012/07/28/157454927/gang-violence-smoulders-on-hot-chicago-streets
This has been a summer of blood, sweat and tears in Chicago. The city
has been scorched by historic heat, and the homicide rate has soared.
When the sun goes down behind the glimmering lakeshore skyline, blocks
on the South and West Side of the city can ring with shots and sirens.
The streets of neighborhoods like Englewood, Grand Crossing and
Garfield Park are empty, even during the day. In the middle of this
summer, it is rare to see a child ride a bike or walk a dog.
"A child should not have to say, 'I can't go out because I might get
shot.'" resident Michelle Harris says at a community meeting at the
Englewood police station. "That's bad, that's bad."
Chicago's street gangs span generations. The Black P. Stone Nation and
Gangster Disciples gangs are older enterprises than Microsoft or
Yahoo.
You can see those names on police blotters this summer, but they may
be names that smaller gangs just put on like a baseball cap. The word
most people now use is "cliques."
*****************
Now can you show where "Backman" is mentioned?
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:56:15 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>How about in the Michelle Bachman camp inciting hatred against
>>>muslims?
>>
>>
>>So now you defend gang violence?.
>
The article is about Gang violence not Bachman. Now if your talking
about Michele BachmannI do not and have not supported her. I
challenge you to find where I have.
Please post here............................
......................................................
>
>Figures.
Here was the original post
Gang Violence Smolders On Hot Chicago Streets
http://www.npr.org/2012/07/28/157454927/gang-violence-smoulders-on-hot-chicago-streets
This has been a summer of blood, sweat and tears in Chicago. The city
has been scorched by historic heat, and the homicide rate has soared.
When the sun goes down behind the glimmering lakeshore skyline, blocks
on the South and West Side of the city can ring with shots and sirens.
The streets of neighborhoods like Englewood, Grand Crossing and
Garfield Park are empty, even during the day. In the middle of this
summer, it is rare to see a child ride a bike or walk a dog.
"A child should not have to say, 'I can't go out because I might get
shot.'" resident Michelle Harris says at a community meeting at the
Englewood police station. "That's bad, that's bad."
Chicago's street gangs span generations. The Black P. Stone Nation and
Gangster Disciples gangs are older enterprises than Microsoft or
Yahoo.
You can see those names on police blotters this summer, but they may
be names that smaller gangs just put on like a baseball cap. The word
most people now use is "cliques."
Now can you show where "Backman" is mentioned?
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3082 Dead
Jul 28, 2012, 7:38:55 PM7/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:41 -0600, Yoorghis wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:23:42 -0700, MattB
> <trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Is that a deflection of your support for Bachman?
>>
>>The article is about Gang violence not Bachman.
>
> So, you're confined to just alluding to the racism inherent in Obama's
> "Chicago" and don't wantto discuss your slut Bachman's Muslim racism?
>
> Is that it?
>
>
>>==========================================================
>
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:50:46 -0500, First.Post
> <Liberals...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:29:07 -0700, MattB
>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>It has been reported that the assualt rifle the perp carried jammed
>>early on and that the majority of the killing was done with the handgun
>>and shotgun.
>>
>>
> If he used that 100 round clip. might have used the wrong lube or none.
Since then we've learned that the shotgun was fired ONCE--into the
ceiling.
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:23:42 -0700, MattB
> <trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Is that a deflection of your support for Bachman?
>>
>>The article is about Gang violence not Bachman.
>
> "Chicago" and don't wantto discuss your slut Bachman's Muslim racism?
>
> Is that it?
>
>
>>==========================================================
>
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:50:46 -0500, First.Post
> <Liberals...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:29:07 -0700, MattB
>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>It has been reported that the assualt rifle the perp carried jammed
>>early on and that the majority of the killing was done with the handgun
>>and shotgun.
>>
>>
> If he used that 100 round clip. might have used the wrong lube or none.
Since then we've learned that the shotgun was fired ONCE--into the
ceiling.
MattB
Jul 28, 2012, 9:01:06 PM7/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:41 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:23:42 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:23:42 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Is that a deflection of your support for Bachman?
>>
>>The article is about Gang violence not Bachman.
>
>>
>>The article is about Gang violence not Bachman.
>
>So, you're confined to just alluding to the racism inherent in Obama's
>"Chicago" and don't wantto discuss your slut Bachman's Muslim racism?
What has Obama to do with the Gang violence in Chicago, you know
>"Chicago" and don't wantto discuss your slut Bachman's Muslim racism?
something about that? I don't.
Then again the gang violence is just as bad in L.A. and Detroit. The
article just happened to be about Chicago.
You are the one that made it about Obama like you know something. Was
Obama part of a Chicago gang? I doubt that.
>
>Is that it?
I Don't like Bachmann never have ask Eddie.
Why don't you try countering the article as posted and not try
distraction make people wonder why you are bringing Obama into a Gang
article.
MattB
Jul 28, 2012, 9:05:54 PM7/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:38:55 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <de...@gone.com>
Did it. The Key word is "Since then"
I have said I'd agree to banning large clips such as a 100 round drum.
Then again you and Yoorghis AKA Gary Richard Roselles fail to include
that. You don't care about truth just your agenda. 2 sick
progressives that really need to face facts.
Then again it was a progressive like yourself that wanted it to happen
again and soon.
Try countering the article. Can you?
I have said I'd agree to banning large clips such as a 100 round drum.
Then again you and Yoorghis AKA Gary Richard Roselles fail to include
that. You don't care about truth just your agenda. 2 sick
progressives that really need to face facts.
Then again it was a progressive like yourself that wanted it to happen
again and soon.
Try countering the article. Can you?
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MattB
Jul 29, 2012, 3:20:14 AM7/29/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:38:27 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:01:06 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:41 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:23:42 -0700, MattB
>>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Is that a deflection of your support for Bachman?
>>>>
>>>>The article is about Gang violence not Bachman.
>>>
>>>So, you're confined to just alluding to the racism inherent in Obama's
>>>"Chicago" and don't wantto discuss your slut Bachman's Muslim racism?
>>
>>What has Obama to do with the Gang violence in Chicago, you know
>>something about that? I don't.
>
>Inference that blacks in chicago are violent; Obama is black, Obama
>was a community organizer, Obama is reviled by your party.
Obama was never a gang member to the best of my knowledge. The Black
gang members are violent. FACT.
Again when truth is told you scream racism.
>
>>Then again the gang violence is just as bad in L.A. and Detroit. The
>>article just happened to be about Chicago.
>
>"Just happened"?? Imagine that ! !
Then again seems you are claiming all gangs are Black. Not a fact.
Well he is a idiot. You seem to claim he was a gang member.
I never even though about Obama until you brought it up.
Gangs are bad, gangs use guns to murder people everyday, guns that
gun control laws would never effect. Gangs are bad no matter what
race they are. FACT.
Quit with the "I used to be a slave" Bull Shit. Go back to the
article and read it as white gangs and see if that changes your veiw
if it does then you are a racist.
>
> MattB
>
>>=========================================
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:01:06 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:32:41 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:23:42 -0700, MattB
>>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Is that a deflection of your support for Bachman?
>>>>
>>>>The article is about Gang violence not Bachman.
>>>
>>>So, you're confined to just alluding to the racism inherent in Obama's
>>>"Chicago" and don't wantto discuss your slut Bachman's Muslim racism?
>>
>>What has Obama to do with the Gang violence in Chicago, you know
>>something about that? I don't.
>
>was a community organizer, Obama is reviled by your party.
Obama was never a gang member to the best of my knowledge. The Black
gang members are violent. FACT.
Again when truth is told you scream racism.
>
>>Then again the gang violence is just as bad in L.A. and Detroit. The
>>article just happened to be about Chicago.
>
Then again seems you are claiming all gangs are Black. Not a fact.
>
>>You are the one that made it about Obama like you know something. Was
>>Obama part of a Chicago gang? I doubt that.
>
>Your party leaders have insinuated much, much worse, idiot
>>You are the one that made it about Obama like you know something. Was
>>Obama part of a Chicago gang? I doubt that.
>
Well he is a idiot. You seem to claim he was a gang member.
I never even though about Obama until you brought it up.
Gangs are bad, gangs use guns to murder people everyday, guns that
gun control laws would never effect. Gangs are bad no matter what
race they are. FACT.
Quit with the "I used to be a slave" Bull Shit. Go back to the
article and read it as white gangs and see if that changes your veiw
if it does then you are a racist.
>
> MattB
>
>>=========================================
MattB
Jul 29, 2012, 3:25:05 AM7/29/12
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:41:47 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:05:54 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>==========================================================
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:50:46 -0500, First.Post
>>>> <Liberals...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:29:07 -0700, MattB
>>>>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It has been reported that the assualt rifle the perp carried jammed
>>>>>early on and that the majority of the killing was done with the handgun
>>>>>and shotgun.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If he used that 100 round clip. might have used the wrong lube or none.
>>>
>>>Since then we've learned that the shotgun was fired ONCE--into the
>>>ceiling.
>>
>>Did it. The Key word is "Since then"
>>
>>I have said I'd agree to banning large clips such as a 100 round drum.
>
>How very nice of you
>
>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately converse
>how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and support a racist
>political ideology/party
Again you lie. Where did I say "Better" Again you lie and lie and
lie guess it is in your blood. That is a reason it could have jammed
again it is fact. Then why let facts get in the way of a good Liberal
lie if that lie supports your agenda. You're a pig plain and simple.
A lying pig.
Obama is not Black he could just as easily be said to be white.
I would ban a few more thing BTW. I would not ban all guns. That will
never happen even if Obama get 4 more years.
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:05:54 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>==========================================================
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:50:46 -0500, First.Post
>>>> <Liberals...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:29:07 -0700, MattB
>>>>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It has been reported that the assualt rifle the perp carried jammed
>>>>>early on and that the majority of the killing was done with the handgun
>>>>>and shotgun.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If he used that 100 round clip. might have used the wrong lube or none.
>>>
>>>Since then we've learned that the shotgun was fired ONCE--into the
>>>ceiling.
>>
>>Did it. The Key word is "Since then"
>>
>>I have said I'd agree to banning large clips such as a 100 round drum.
>
>
>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately converse
>how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and support a racist
>political ideology/party
Again you lie. Where did I say "Better" Again you lie and lie and
lie guess it is in your blood. That is a reason it could have jammed
again it is fact. Then why let facts get in the way of a good Liberal
lie if that lie supports your agenda. You're a pig plain and simple.
A lying pig.
Obama is not Black he could just as easily be said to be white.
I would ban a few more thing BTW. I would not ban all guns. That will
never happen even if Obama get 4 more years.
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MattB
Jul 29, 2012, 12:35:50 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:01:06 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:20:14 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>What has Obama to do with the Gang violence in Chicago, you know
>>>>something about that? I don't.
>>>
>>>Inference that blacks in chicago are violent; Obama is black, Obama
>>>was a community organizer, Obama is reviled by your party.
>>
>>Obama was never a gang member to the best of my knowledge. The Black
>>gang members are violent. FACT.
>
>Perhaps you should be writing your babbling posts addressed to the
>racists who hate Obama, Back the religous reich who detest Obama, the
>moneyed class feeding off the people---instead of the sneaky posts
>where he's associated with "gangs, blacks, and violence". It's a
>common thing with all you wingers who don't want to be nailed on your
>obvious racism.
So is the article wrong in it's facts? Yes or No
Another biased lie.
>blacks, gangs, Chicago and Chicogoan Obama.
Did I write the article? Where my check. The Article could of as
easily been made in LA, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami or Orlando.
Get race out of you mind on this gangs are a problem for the innocents
they intimidate and the drugs and murder associated with them.
>moron---yet the party you support has never called him on that, nor
>have you distanced yourself from the fundamental character of
>conservatism that ignores ALL of the base vileness they commit.
I wasn't talking about Obama in this thread you brought him up. The
most I'd have said about Obama is he couldn't get the gang problem
under control.
>
>You give some lame "well, both do it"---a sad and childish "moral
>equivilancy" deflection.
This a distraction? This thread is about gang violence if you want to
discuss history start another thread,
>You have posted more nonsense than most of the idiots around here
>(dana, Haskell, Cunter, etc) and then pretend you're rational.
>
>>Gangs are bad,
>
>Why do you belong to a wingnut gang of political ideologies that are
>proven racist, homophobic, bigoted, sleazy, greedy called the
>Republical party?
You are one crazy racist. You have proven beyond doubt there are some
black that if you criticize blacks in any way even if factual will
always scream racism. You did so here. point proven beyond doubt.
Again gangs are not only about race although most gangs are based in
racism.
>>
>>Quit with the "I used to be a slave" Bull Shit.
>
>???
>
>You referring to "beammeupScotty"??
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:20:14 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>What has Obama to do with the Gang violence in Chicago, you know
>>>>something about that? I don't.
>>>
>>>Inference that blacks in chicago are violent; Obama is black, Obama
>>>was a community organizer, Obama is reviled by your party.
>>
>>Obama was never a gang member to the best of my knowledge. The Black
>>gang members are violent. FACT.
>
>racists who hate Obama, Back the religous reich who detest Obama, the
>moneyed class feeding off the people---instead of the sneaky posts
>where he's associated with "gangs, blacks, and violence". It's a
>common thing with all you wingers who don't want to be nailed on your
>obvious racism.
So is the article wrong in it's facts? Yes or No
>
>>Again when truth is told you scream racism.
>
>You've never told "truth" here since you've posted.
>>Again when truth is told you scream racism.
>
Another biased lie.
>
>>>>Then again the gang violence is just as bad in L.A. and Detroit. The
>>>>article just happened to be about Chicago.
>>>
>>>"Just happened"?? Imagine that ! !
>>
>>Then again seems you are claiming all gangs are Black. Not a fact.
>
>You seem to be distancing yourself from your own inferences about
>>>>Then again the gang violence is just as bad in L.A. and Detroit. The
>>>>article just happened to be about Chicago.
>>>
>>>"Just happened"?? Imagine that ! !
>>
>>Then again seems you are claiming all gangs are Black. Not a fact.
>
>blacks, gangs, Chicago and Chicogoan Obama.
Did I write the article? Where my check. The Article could of as
easily been made in LA, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami or Orlando.
Get race out of you mind on this gangs are a problem for the innocents
they intimidate and the drugs and murder associated with them.
>
>>>>You are the one that made it about Obama like you know something. Was
>>>>Obama part of a Chicago gang? I doubt that.
>>>
>>>Your party leaders have insinuated much, much worse, idiot
>>
>>Well he is a idiot. You seem to claim he was a gang member.
>
>THere you go again. Raygun was a liar, perjurer, and babbling
>>>>You are the one that made it about Obama like you know something. Was
>>>>Obama part of a Chicago gang? I doubt that.
>>>
>>>Your party leaders have insinuated much, much worse, idiot
>>
>>Well he is a idiot. You seem to claim he was a gang member.
>
>moron---yet the party you support has never called him on that, nor
>have you distanced yourself from the fundamental character of
>conservatism that ignores ALL of the base vileness they commit.
I wasn't talking about Obama in this thread you brought him up. The
most I'd have said about Obama is he couldn't get the gang problem
under control.
>
>You give some lame "well, both do it"---a sad and childish "moral
>equivilancy" deflection.
This a distraction? This thread is about gang violence if you want to
discuss history start another thread,
>
>>I never even though about Obama until you brought it up.
>
>You never even complete a post with correct words and thoughts either.
>>I never even though about Obama until you brought it up.
>
>You have posted more nonsense than most of the idiots around here
>(dana, Haskell, Cunter, etc) and then pretend you're rational.
>
>>Gangs are bad,
>
>Why do you belong to a wingnut gang of political ideologies that are
>proven racist, homophobic, bigoted, sleazy, greedy called the
>Republical party?
You are one crazy racist. You have proven beyond doubt there are some
black that if you criticize blacks in any way even if factual will
always scream racism. You did so here. point proven beyond doubt.
Again gangs are not only about race although most gangs are based in
racism.
>>
>>Quit with the "I used to be a slave" Bull Shit.
>
>
>You referring to "beammeupScotty"??
MattB
Jul 29, 2012, 12:44:49 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:04:06 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:25:05 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately converse
>>>how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and support a racist
>>>political ideology/party
>>
>>
>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>
>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making
>suggestions how the problem could have been corrected prior to using
>it?
Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped
the guy. Then again don't like facts.
Now go support the murder of kids and with your big buddy Zepp hope
for more Jewish and Christian children to die. You have to be Atheist
in that.
>embodiment of racism)---any amount of negro blood DOES make the person
>entirely Black.
So you speak for the mind and hearts of millions of Americans?. You
know the opinions of all republicans?
Well guess you need to be ignored again.
With you it is all about progressive hate and lies. Tell facts and
you yell racist or start a ad hominem.
Guess I should post every article on Black gang violence I find. Let
you says how they aren't factual.
Maybe you belong to a gang and this is a subject that is personal as
well as most gangs are racist.
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:25:05 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately converse
>>>how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and support a racist
>>>political ideology/party
>>
>>
>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>
>suggestions how the problem could have been corrected prior to using
>it?
Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped
the guy. Then again don't like facts.
Now go support the murder of kids and with your big buddy Zepp hope
for more Jewish and Christian children to die. You have to be Atheist
in that.
>
>
>>
>>Obama is not Black he could just as easily be said to be white.
>
>By ALL conservative standards and beliefs---(because the GOP IS the
>
>>
>>Obama is not Black he could just as easily be said to be white.
>
>embodiment of racism)---any amount of negro blood DOES make the person
>entirely Black.
So you speak for the mind and hearts of millions of Americans?. You
know the opinions of all republicans?
Well guess you need to be ignored again.
With you it is all about progressive hate and lies. Tell facts and
you yell racist or start a ad hominem.
Guess I should post every article on Black gang violence I find. Let
you says how they aren't factual.
Maybe you belong to a gang and this is a subject that is personal as
well as most gangs are racist.
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Jul 29, 2012, 1:59:14 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:44:49 -0700, MattB wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:04:06 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:25:05 -0700, MattB
>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately converse
>>>>how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and support a racist
>>>>political ideology/party
>>>
>>>
>>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>>
>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making suggestions
>>how the problem could have been corrected prior to using it?
>
> Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped the
> guy. Then again don't like facts.
>
> Now go support the murder of kids and with your big buddy Zepp hope for
> more Jewish and Christian children to die. You have to be Atheist in
> that.
Yup. Ding Dong has turned into another Fake Bill.
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:04:06 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:25:05 -0700, MattB
>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately converse
>>>>how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and support a racist
>>>>political ideology/party
>>>
>>>
>>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>>
>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making suggestions
>>how the problem could have been corrected prior to using it?
>
> Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped the
> guy. Then again don't like facts.
>
> Now go support the murder of kids and with your big buddy Zepp hope for
> more Jewish and Christian children to die. You have to be Atheist in
> that.
MattB
Jul 29, 2012, 2:03:38 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:36:46 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:44:49 -0700, MattB
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:44:49 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>>>
>>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making
>>>suggestions how the problem could have been corrected prior to using
>>>it?
>>
>>Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped
>>the guy. Then again don't like facts.
>
>Since the issue is YOU making suggestions as to how a gun would work
>
>>>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>>>
>>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making
>>>suggestions how the problem could have been corrected prior to using
>>>it?
>>
>>Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped
>>the guy. Then again don't like facts.
>
>(and kill) better, I'd say your spluttering and evasion is almost
>pathetically comical.
LOL Fool you just need to attack. The info is all over the place.
If he had been in the military he would have know. You just attack
because I'm a moderate conservative.
The again what your liberal progressive Matt T suggested he wanted
more of these and soon. You did not say anything to disagree. Then
again if it is Jews, Christian or Conservatives being killed that fits
the Liberal agenda.
You are sick.
*******************************
Well have a nice day.
MattB
Jul 29, 2012, 2:08:14 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:33:33 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:35:50 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Perhaps you should be writing your babbling posts addressed to the
>>>racists who hate Obama, Back the religous reich who detest Obama, the
>>>moneyed class feeding off the people---instead of the sneaky posts
>>>where he's associated with "gangs, blacks, and violence". It's a
>>>common thing with all you wingers who don't want to be nailed on your
>>>obvious racism.
>>
>>So is the article wrong in it's facts? Yes or No
>
>It is a "FACT" that ships disappear over the horizon sailing away from
>shore.
>
>It is not a valid Conclusion they "fall off the edge o' the earth",
>Matt-baloney
>
>See how "facts" are not conclusive?
So in your world gangs are good?
In your world gangs do not use guns to kill daily?
In your world gangs are all Black?
You really need to lay off that Meth.
The facts are gangs are bad, gangs are not all Black, and gangs kill
many a week in the USA. Facts plain and simple and the race of those
involved doesn't change these facts.
FAce it you see the world through the eyes of a racist. Like you and
a KKK member are equal in how you think.
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:35:50 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Perhaps you should be writing your babbling posts addressed to the
>>>racists who hate Obama, Back the religous reich who detest Obama, the
>>>moneyed class feeding off the people---instead of the sneaky posts
>>>where he's associated with "gangs, blacks, and violence". It's a
>>>common thing with all you wingers who don't want to be nailed on your
>>>obvious racism.
>>
>>So is the article wrong in it's facts? Yes or No
>
>shore.
>
>It is not a valid Conclusion they "fall off the edge o' the earth",
>Matt-baloney
>
>See how "facts" are not conclusive?
So in your world gangs are good?
In your world gangs do not use guns to kill daily?
In your world gangs are all Black?
You really need to lay off that Meth.
The facts are gangs are bad, gangs are not all Black, and gangs kill
many a week in the USA. Facts plain and simple and the race of those
involved doesn't change these facts.
FAce it you see the world through the eyes of a racist. Like you and
a KKK member are equal in how you think.
MattB
Jul 29, 2012, 2:50:16 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:59:14 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <de...@gone.com>
more Theater shooting and soon you said nothing. Well guess you gave
Implied consent.
Then we see here you think facts don't matter before race in a
discussion.
Yes we are seeing what you really stand for.
Then again many have know for some time.
wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:44:49 -0700, MattB wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:04:06 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:25:05 -0700, MattB
>>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately converse
>>>>>how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and support a racist
>>>>>political ideology/party
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>>>
>>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making suggestions
>>>how the problem could have been corrected prior to using it?
>>
>> Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped the
>> guy. Then again don't like facts.
>>
>> Now go support the murder of kids and with your big buddy Zepp hope for
>> more Jewish and Christian children to die. You have to be Atheist in
>> that.
>
>Yup. Ding Dong has turned into another Fake Bill.
Then again when your buddy and fellow progressive suggested we needed
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:44:49 -0700, MattB wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:04:06 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:25:05 -0700, MattB
>>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately converse
>>>>>how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and support a racist
>>>>>political ideology/party
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>>>
>>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making suggestions
>>>how the problem could have been corrected prior to using it?
>>
>> Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped the
>> guy. Then again don't like facts.
>>
>> Now go support the murder of kids and with your big buddy Zepp hope for
>> more Jewish and Christian children to die. You have to be Atheist in
>> that.
>
>Yup. Ding Dong has turned into another Fake Bill.
more Theater shooting and soon you said nothing. Well guess you gave
Implied consent.
Then we see here you think facts don't matter before race in a
discussion.
Yes we are seeing what you really stand for.
Then again many have know for some time.
3082 Dead
Jul 29, 2012, 2:58:05 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:50:16 -0700, MattB wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:59:14 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <de...@gone.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:44:49 -0700, MattB wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:04:06 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:25:05 -0700, MattB
>>>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately
>>>>>>converse how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and
>>>>>>support a racist political ideology/party
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>>>>
>>>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making
>>>>suggestions how the problem could have been corrected prior to using
>>>>it?
>>>
>>> Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped
>>> the guy. Then again don't like facts.
>>>
>>> Now go support the murder of kids and with your big buddy Zepp hope
>>> for more Jewish and Christian children to die. You have to be Atheist
>>> in that.
>>
>>Yup. Ding Dong has turned into another Fake Bill.
>
> Then again when your buddy and fellow progressive suggested we needed
> more Theater shooting and soon you said nothing. Well guess you gave
> Implied consent.
That because he didn't say it. You're a fucking liar.
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:59:14 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <de...@gone.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:44:49 -0700, MattB wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:04:06 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:25:05 -0700, MattB
>>>><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Yet you defend murderers that kill innocent kids, immediately
>>>>>>converse how better an oiled gun would be, (lubed wrong), and
>>>>>>support a racist political ideology/party
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Again you lie. Where did I say "Better"
>>>>
>>>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making
>>>>suggestions how the problem could have been corrected prior to using
>>>>it?
>>>
>>> Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped
>>> the guy. Then again don't like facts.
>>>
>>> Now go support the murder of kids and with your big buddy Zepp hope
>>> for more Jewish and Christian children to die. You have to be Atheist
>>> in that.
>>
>>Yup. Ding Dong has turned into another Fake Bill.
>
> Then again when your buddy and fellow progressive suggested we needed
> more Theater shooting and soon you said nothing. Well guess you gave
> Implied consent.
MattB
Jul 29, 2012, 3:04:08 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:58:05 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <de...@gone.com>
Strange he did. Then again he did suggest the target be
conservatives. Matt T suggest violence quite often it seems.
Yoorghis AKA Gary Richard Roselles suggested Zimmermann should be
murdered in the name of justice.
Seems liberals have a blind spot when it comes to facts.
Then again what I know of you don't suspect facts.
conservatives. Matt T suggest violence quite often it seems.
Yoorghis AKA Gary Richard Roselles suggested Zimmermann should be
murdered in the name of justice.
Seems liberals have a blind spot when it comes to facts.
Then again what I know of you don't suspect facts.
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Jul 29, 2012, 6:25:54 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:07:27 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:03:38 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making
>>>>>suggestions how the problem could have been corrected prior to using
>>>>>it?
>>>>
>>>>Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped
>>>>the guy. Then again don't like facts.
>>>
>>>Since the issue is YOU making suggestions as to how a gun would work
>>>(and kill) better, I'd say your spluttering and evasion is almost
>>>pathetically comical.
>>
>>LOL Fool you just need to attack. The info is all over the place.
>>If he had been in the military he would have know. You just attack
>>because I'm a moderate conservative.
>
>THere is NO such thing as a "moderate" conservative
>
>NOTHING a conservative has done in your lifetime (probably) has ever
>amounted to doing anything good for America
>
>Moreover, because you support "conservatives" of all kinds, (net
>denial not withstanding), the rightwing has encouragement to do the
>bad things they do
>
>You are exactly the kind of person that allowed Hitler to become
>powerful----ie, a "good german".
>
>You want to be a moderate---then take up "arms" against the
>confederation of conservatives made up of homphobic religious reich,
>the ultranationalistic neocons, the greedy, self-serving assholes who
>refute new testament character, and the wealth class that fund you all
I won't take up "arms" against those that have a opinion different
than mine. Americans have the right to have different opinions.
Then again some might be thinking it is time to take up arms against
the gangs.
>
>Asshole.
No that looks more like your face.
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:03:38 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>Suggesting an "lube" would have prevented a jam isn't making
>>>>>suggestions how the problem could have been corrected prior to using
>>>>>it?
>>>>
>>>>Since the crime was over and he was in jail don't see how it helped
>>>>the guy. Then again don't like facts.
>>>
>>>Since the issue is YOU making suggestions as to how a gun would work
>>>(and kill) better, I'd say your spluttering and evasion is almost
>>>pathetically comical.
>>
>>LOL Fool you just need to attack. The info is all over the place.
>>If he had been in the military he would have know. You just attack
>>because I'm a moderate conservative.
>
>
>NOTHING a conservative has done in your lifetime (probably) has ever
>amounted to doing anything good for America
>
>Moreover, because you support "conservatives" of all kinds, (net
>denial not withstanding), the rightwing has encouragement to do the
>bad things they do
>
>You are exactly the kind of person that allowed Hitler to become
>powerful----ie, a "good german".
>
>You want to be a moderate---then take up "arms" against the
>confederation of conservatives made up of homphobic religious reich,
>the ultranationalistic neocons, the greedy, self-serving assholes who
>refute new testament character, and the wealth class that fund you all
I won't take up "arms" against those that have a opinion different
than mine. Americans have the right to have different opinions.
Then again some might be thinking it is time to take up arms against
the gangs.
>
>Asshole.
No that looks more like your face.
MattB
Jul 29, 2012, 6:27:16 PM7/29/12
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:10:33 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:08:14 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>So is the article wrong in it's facts? Yes or No
>>>
>>>It is a "FACT" that ships disappear over the horizon sailing away from
>>>shore.
>>>
>>>It is not a valid Conclusion they "fall off the edge o' the earth",
>>>Matt-baloney
>>>
>>>See how "facts" are not conclusive?
>>
>>
>>So in your world gangs are good?
>
>Stay on task, loonboy
>
>You have to say if "facts" are the issue, or the conclusions the fact
>can/canot show are.
>
>The facts are that YOU take the side of racists, bigots and murderers,
>even giving objective information on guns for more efficient use---and
>then cry when confronted with a valid conclusion you are what I call
>you.
So you are saying that article was not factual. In what way?
>
>Now get a kleenex, blow yer nose and be a man and admit it.
Admit that you have to attack me because you can't counter the facts
of that article?
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:08:14 -0700, MattB
><trdell1234...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>So is the article wrong in it's facts? Yes or No
>>>
>>>It is a "FACT" that ships disappear over the horizon sailing away from
>>>shore.
>>>
>>>It is not a valid Conclusion they "fall off the edge o' the earth",
>>>Matt-baloney
>>>
>>>See how "facts" are not conclusive?
>>
>>
>>So in your world gangs are good?
>
>
>You have to say if "facts" are the issue, or the conclusions the fact
>can/canot show are.
>
>The facts are that YOU take the side of racists, bigots and murderers,
>even giving objective information on guns for more efficient use---and
>then cry when confronted with a valid conclusion you are what I call
>you.
So you are saying that article was not factual. In what way?
>
>Now get a kleenex, blow yer nose and be a man and admit it.
Admit that you have to attack me because you can't counter the facts
of that article?
>
>
>
>>==========================================================
>
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:50:46 -0500, First.Post
><Liberals...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:29:07 -0700, MattB
>
>
>>==========================================================
>
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:50:46 -0500, First.Post
><Liberals...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 10:29:07 -0700, MattB
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