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"9/11 mastermind" KSM torture did not stop LA attack, he was waterboarded 6 times daily

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Johnny Asia

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:21:33 AM11/18/09
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KSM torture did not stop LA attack

April 23, 2009

Ever since the revelations that the torture of Abu Zubaydah provided
only false leads, conservatives have jumped on a Bush-era memo
claiming that torture of KSM stopped an attack in LA. This is false,
and easily proven so.

According to the Bush White House, the mastermind of that attack was
arrested in February 2002 .
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060209-4.html
They confirmed this again in a fact sheet . All well and good.

KSM was arrested on March 1, 2003 .
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/washington/22ksm.html?_r=1

How is it possible that torture done over a year after plot was broken
up and the mastermind was arrested stopped that exact same plot?

Eddie Haskell

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:06:26 PM11/18/09
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"Johnny Asia" <bayin...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:7ls7g5tudu83qvrf2...@4ax.com...

> KSM torture did not stop LA attack
>
> April 23, 2009
>
>
> Ever since the revelations that the torture

So we torture our own servicemen during training? Why do you lie and smear
your own country?

> of Abu Zubaydah provided
> only false leads, conservatives have jumped on a Bush-era memo
> claiming that torture of KSM stopped an attack in LA. This is false,
> and easily proven so.

False because the plot was discovered and it never happen because it was
thwarted?

Which kind of democrat are you, a lair or an idiot?

Or maybe a lying idiot?

One thing we know is that the Ft. Hood plot sure as fuck wasn't thwarted.

-Eddie Haskell


rocket scientist

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:42:19 PM11/18/09
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In article <4b04298a$0$24884$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com>,
"Eddie Haskell" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:

> > Ever since the revelations that the torture

and;

o bring out the very reasonable doubt, beyond any Al Qaeda egotism of
ownership, a provocative defense that the crashing planes could NOT
have been the proximal cause of the mass casualties and destructions
would be a fiendish and very unwelcomed truth that has not been open
to a "Jury of OUR Peers", since 9/11/2001.

Twitter.com/JacobinTrotsky

Phlip

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:12:42 PM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 5:42 pm, rocket scientist <georgesp...@toast.net> wrote:

>  "Eddie Haskell" <f...@eeaeae.com> wrote:

I hear lots of chest-thumping, and no actual explanation how torturing
someone in 2003 could help arrest a terrorist mastermind in 2002.

But, once again good old police legwork beats chest-thumping. Or
waterboarding...

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Phlip

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:33:33 PM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 6:29 pm, Once in a China Blue Moon <chine.b...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> In article <georgespamk-514B34.17421918112...@news.isp.giganews.com>,
>  rocket scientist  <georgesp...@toast.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <4b04298a$0$24884$9a6e1...@news.newshosting.com>,

> >  "Eddie Haskell" <f...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Ever since the revelations that the torture
>
> > and;
>
> > o bring out the very reasonable doubt, beyond any Al Qaeda egotism of
> > ownership, a provocative defense that the crashing planes could NOT
> > have been the proximal cause of the mass casualties and destructions
> > would be a fiendish and very unwelcomed truth that has not been open
> > to a "Jury of OUR Peers", since 9/11/2001.
>
> It would be sufficient to hold him responsible for the destruction of four
> planes, their passengers and crews, and people on the ground. If the prosecution
> doesn't bring up the subject of the collapse of any buildings, the defence can't
> bring it up either.

I can't believe I missed that. Is RS implying a...

...TRUTHER defense?

The Will to Believe is Strong in this one!!!

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:34:14 PM11/18/09
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"Johnny Asia" <bayin...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> KSM torture did not stop LA attack
>
> April 23, 2009


Only a liberal pussies thing water-boarding is torture. You have no idea
what torture is.

Phlip

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:34:00 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 18, 8:34 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Johnny Asia" <baying46...@mypacks.net> wrote in message

Anyone who says it's not torture is volunteering.

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:39:20 AM11/19/09
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I remember a number of right wing bloviators, including Sean Hannity,
volunteered to undergo water boarding to show it wasn't torture. Hannity
chickened out, the way he does, but a couple of others did -- and very
promptly changed their minds. Even though they were widely condemned by
the torture apologists, they came right out and said unequivocably, it
is torture.

RichTravsky

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:49:27 PM11/21/09
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09146/972700-153.stm

Only Nixon can go to China. That's why the waterboarding of Chicago-based
radio host Matthew Erich "Mancow" Muller has the potential to end the
sophistry surrounding the medieval torture technique in conservative circles
for good.

Last Friday, Mancow did what higher profile skeptics of the charge that the
Bush administration engaged in torture don't have the courage to do. Where
Fox News host Sean Hannity last month glibly agreed to be waterboarded ("I'll
do it for charity"), Mancow actually underwent the procedure during the live
broadcast of his popular morning show.
...

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